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Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 08:54:00 - [1] Scanning - get whatever it is to 100%. Ok, now you can warp to it but you can't make a note (Book Mark) of where it is until you get there? What's up with that? You know where the "thing" is to 100% you should be able to have a BM location from the r.click menu. Why would you need this? Well what's the point of flying into a nest of sleepers just to BM something that your whole corp will deal with at a later date? you should simply be able to remember what you've scanned at 100% from the map. Please add this functionality CCP.
Artassaut Minmatar Oblivion Amalgamated	Posted - 2009.03.17 08:58:00 - [2] Bookmarks are a great way to keep scan results from eachother. Only Deviation can screw that over. If a circle/line/dot overlaps a bookmark, chances are you've already been to it. --- The Gate: Lol, try targeting me in a fleet fight. The Station: No U.
Gefex Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.17 08:59:00 - [3] Originally by: Artassaut Bookmarks are a great way to keep scan results from eachother. Only Deviation can screw that over. If a circle/line/dot overlaps a bookmark, chances are you've already been to it. Would be even nicer if you could remove already discovered sites from scan results.
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:05:00 - [4] Originally by: Gefex Would be even nicer if you could remove already discovered sites from scan results. Totally.
Artassaut Minmatar Oblivion Amalgamated	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:07:00 - [5] Originally by: Gefex Would be even nicer if you could remove already discovered sites from scan results. It would be, if you weren't stationed in Wormsec. I've stayed in Wormsec with my corp for a few days. I would have been bored from scanning if only new results showed up. Having all those results still there makes for some interesting times determining which ones you've already scanned, and which ones are new signatures. --- The Gate: Lol, try targeting me in a fleet fight. The Station: No U.
Spurty Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:08:00 - [6] Originally by: Gefex Would be even nicer if you could remove already discovered sites from scan results. Yah, like you can with wrecks 'visited' for example. Amen to that! Originally by: Butter Dog I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
ollobrains2 Gallente New Eve Order Holdings	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:09:00 - [7] we can only hope ccp see the light on this
Khamal Jolstien Caldari Coriault Combat Solutions Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Artassaut Originally by: Gefex Would be even nicer if you could remove already discovered sites from scan results. It would be, if you weren't stationed in Wormsec. I've stayed in Wormsec with my corp for a few days. I would have been bored from scanning if only new results showed up. Having all those results still there makes for some interesting times determining which ones you've already scanned, and which ones are new signatures. If you find sifting through all those already scanned signatures "fun", then you must live a sad, pitiful existence. Get help.
white kight Galaxy Punks Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Mallikanth Originally by: Gefex Would be even nicer if you could remove already discovered sites from scan results. Totally. Especially since the system i am in has 30 Cosmic Signatures. Originally by: CCP Greyscale :facepalm:
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:31:00 - [10] Originally by: white kight Especially since the system i am in has 30 Cosmic Signatures. This is exactly why we need to be able to place a bookmark from a 100% scan result from within the scanner.

ollobrains2 Gallente New Eve Order Holdings	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:43:00 - [11] Deep Space scanner probes even with 30 in middle ssytem overlap 4x 4au probes find the common area of the unknown sigs ( womrholeso nly in wspace) ded wh and drone in kspace Pull out the core probes - whola womrhole
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:45:00 - [12] Originally by: ollobrains2 Deep Space scanner probes even with 30 in middle ssytem overlap 4x 4au probes find the common area of the unknown sigs ( womrholeso nly in wspace) ded wh and drone in kspace Pull out the core probes - whola womrhole /me pulls out dictionary and thesaurus to find out what's being said
Artassaut Minmatar Oblivion Amalgamated	Posted - 2009.03.17 09:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Khamal Jolstien Originally by: Artassaut Originally by: Gefex Would be even nicer if you could remove already discovered sites from scan results. It would be, if you weren't stationed in Wormsec. I've stayed in Wormsec with my corp for a few days. I would have been bored from scanning if only new results showed up. Having all those results still there makes for some interesting times determining which ones you've already scanned, and which ones are new signatures. If you find sifting through all those already scanned signatures "fun", then you must live a sad, pitiful existence. Get help. 0/10 --- The Gate: Lol, try targeting me in a fleet fight. The Station: No U.
Fi Vantage Minmatar New Ligion	Posted - 2009.03.17 11:53:00 - [14] Edited by: Fi Vantage on 17/03/2009 11:54:32 I thought this would be about keeping the red dots from the last scan, so you can see it on your next scan, so you can compare the two readings. But bookmarking straight from the scanner is good, and just makes rp sense too. Also: It's not that hard to keep track of which ones you've already scanned once you get the hang of it, although the most I've ever had in a system was 12.
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:03:00 - [15] Screw BMs. How about they actually let us right-click on the solar system map again to initiate warp to something. There is lot's of stuff wrong with the new scanning system. About the only thing I do like though is I'm able to recall my probes like with drones. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Fi Vantage But bookmarking straight from the scanner is good, and just makes rp sense too. Also: It's not that hard to keep track of which ones you've already scanned once you get the hang of it, although the most I've ever had in a system was 12. Well I've been in one that had 60 results, presumably with "ghost" hist that brings it down to an equally unmanageable 30 BM from the scanner FTW - pweety please CCP?
Turiel Demon Minmatar Inhumation Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:08:00 - [17] It works MUCH better than recalling drones: They will return to you while you are in warp. They will return to you within about 5 seconds. They will actually RETURN to you and not f-ing MWD back and forth around your ship for 20 minutes before you gently persuade them to enter your dronebay with engine-oil and cookies.
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Turiel Demon It works MUCH better than recalling drones: They will return to you while you are in warp. They will return to you within about 5 seconds. They will actually RETURN to you and not f-ing MWD back and forth around your ship for 20 minutes before you gently persuade them to enter your dronebay with engine-oil and cookies. There are some faults though with it, like when you want to make a new scan and accidentally hit recall instead. CCP needs to fix errors that this new patch caused with my HIDs. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN
Kingwood Amarr Defile.	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:16:00 - [19] No bookmarks from within the Scanner, I'm fine with that. Just make it remember 100% scan hits as long as you stay in the system. What I'm doing atm is to not probe the area around a 100% hit. Not sure how many Signatures I'm missing with this, but it's the only way to stay sane.
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Kingwood Just make it remember 100% scan hits as long as you stay in the system. Yep. That works too. Any way to help remember what's been scanned already will help.

meat vapour	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:32:00 - [21] way too many tears about the new scanning system... most of you morons just want to press a button that tells you where the wormhole is... now, it's challenging and actually involves, you know, player skill...
Emily Ashley	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Mallikanth Originally by: Kingwood Just make it remember 100% scan hits as long as you stay in the system. Yep. That works too. Any way to help remember what's been scanned already will help. Warp to it and it will. O, we are too lazy to warp?
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:55:00 - [23] Originally by: Emily Ashley Warp to it and it will. O, we are too lazy to warp? Laziness has nothing to do with it. Read the OP and other comments and suggestions. Using your logic using a car in RL is just plain lazy as we could walk. That works up to a point until you have to go to multiple destinations many, many miles apart and then not remember where you've been.
Xenoxide Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:57:00 - [24] Originally by: Artassaut 0/10 He's more on the mark than you realise. I give 9/10, point removed for lack of wittyness.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:08:00 - [25] I endorse this product and or/service. - DesuSigs
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:26:00 - [26] Originally by: meat vapour way too many tears about the new scanning system... most of you morons just want to press a button that tells you where the wormhole is... now, it's challenging and actually involves, you know, player skill... Oh, just noticed this interesting and insightful quote. Thanks for the input and valuable advice but please advise where anything you mention is said by anyone in this thread up to your comment and we'll all live happier lives. TL,DR; GTFO out this thread troll
The Tzar Malicious Intentions The Church.	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:33:00 - [27] Hmm on the directional scanner there doesn't seem to be a right-click menu from results as we had before in Quantum Rise. This was so useful for aligning to a bunch of objects your target was also within. Also very useful as when you left-clicked on the result it would put a selection box around it in space for faster camera drone alignment. After all the nerfs that PVP has taken recently can we please have the old directional scanner back? __________________________________________ 'Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear intelligent until they speak' __________________________________________
Emily Ashley	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Mallikanth Originally by: Emily Ashley Warp to it and it will. O, we are too lazy to warp? Laziness has nothing to do with it. Read the OP and other comments and suggestions. Using your logic using a car in RL is just plain lazy as we could walk. That works up to a point until you have to go to multiple destinations many, many miles apart and then not remember where you've been. So the speed at which we travel has to do with book marks how? What you want is a way to scan something, tag it as found, and then move on. In your example, you even say that you travel to multiple locations, and then can't remember where you've been. Which it does. You just have to warp there first. Like I said. I bolded where I lol'd. You want to remember where you have been, without being there first. And in CCPs defense, I think the reason they aren't allowing us to BM remotely, is to discourage everyone from having 10-30 BMs in a single unknown system. This is the reason they tag it once you travel to the site.
Mallikanth	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Emily Ashley So the speed at which we travel has to do with book marks how? What you want is a way to scan something, tag it as found, and then move on. In your example, you even say that you travel to multiple locations, and then can't remember where you've been. Which it does. You just have to warp there first. Like I said. I bolded where I lol'd. You want to remember where you have been, without being there first. And in CCPs defense, I think the reason they aren't allowing us to BM remotely, is to discourage everyone from having 10-30 BMs in a single unknown system. This is the reason they tag it once you travel to the site. I know where you're coming from, don't get me wrong and perhaps the RL example wasn't well thought out and doesn't match the in-game mechanics but then again there are many things I can just warp too in game without having ever been there first so why not when I've got a 100% fix on them? As for CCP's reason I agree with you 100% why you think they currently don't allow it. However I can't see the problem with the scanner remembering the 100% hits or types you've discovered during that scanning session, for example. Any none lag / data inducing mechanic will do.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2009.03.17 14:34:00 - [30] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 17/03/2009 14:37:50 Originally by: Emily Ashley So the speed at which we travel has to do with book marks how? What you want is a way to scan something, tag it as found, and then move on. In your example, you even say that you travel to multiple locations, and then can't remember where you've been. Which it does. You just have to warp there first. Like I said. I bolded where I lol'd. You want to remember where you have been, without being there first. And in CCPs defense, I think the reason they aren't allowing us to BM remotely, is to discourage everyone from having 10-30 BMs in a single unknown system. This is the reason they tag it once you travel to the site. This idea (from the OP) was brought up in the Assembly Hall for the CSM and fell flat on its face. Unfortunately I had the sense that most people opposed to the idea never actually probed and just assumed we want easy mode which is not the case. I do not care about remote bookmarking if CCP fixes the warp-to bug in WH space (it makes you warp-to-zero regardless of range selected on the first warp-in...CCP is aware of it and will fix it presumably). That can be gotten around but I lost a CovOps to it once when I landed at 0km when I tried to warp in to 30km and got uncloaked and popped 6 seconds later. More the issue is sifting through multiple hits. You cannot "know" what you have found on subsequent scans without probing a WH down to 100% and bookmarking it which stinks frankly. I see no reason why there should not be a toggle button which will display previous results versus current results. If you get a dot of any color it remains on the "previous result" list till it is nailed to 100% and officially "found". Sorting through dozens of sigs to find the one you want is a major drag and a needless timesink and particularly when many of those are closely clustered as they often are. A red site may still not be "known" but once you get an identity on another site (which still takes some work to narrow it down) then you can move on if it is not what you want. With dozens of hits and a little bad luck on your part you can be there for hours sifting through the mess...not to mention the crap when you realize you just probed something you already probed. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"



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