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zombeee
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.18 20:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Iskyu Geiveme
TBH if he is like many other producers i know, then some of the people undercutting him are his own alts. This way he dictates the price ceiling, and is moving product.
Or they set multiple sell orders at different prices on the same character, to be able to change their orders more frequently.
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Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2009.03.18 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Leech
They might want to liquidate assets and price for a quick sale.
My favourite is when someone cuts the market price to 1/3 and puts up 3 months supply of the item expecting it to sell instantly.
You then buy it all up thus making him right? 
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.03.18 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: General Coochie on 18/03/2009 22:23:35
Originally by: Dzil
Originally by: General Coochie
Sold one for 159mill isk - very nice like 25mill profit.
I make two more. What do I see? Some ****** has put up 18 abaddons for 149mill.
Guess that poor bastard is only going to make 270 mil to your 25?
Thing is my other bill in investments bring in about the same profit. So no he is not making more isk then me. By the time he sells them 18 abaddons I sold 2.5 bill investments over and over and over.
I dont know maybe I suck at producing? But I think that making 50-100% profit / month is not bad. So if I invest 200mill I make a 100-200mill per month. (Naturally I invest a lot more then 200mill.)
Whats your profit / month?
Also I see what you mean when you say that they undercut so ppl leave the market (like me) so they can safely sell their ships. However.. There are a lot more ppl involved in the market most times when the profit is reasonable. Abaddons in rens are an exception at the moment as this guy is still pretty much alone with me and a few others selling abaddons. Normally there be several more ppl in the market by now starting to crash it down to 5% profit.
Playing the 0.01 isk games takes what? 1min of your time. If I'm playing eve anyway I do logg my alt in to sort this out every now and then. Maybe like you said 2-5 times a day.
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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2009.03.18 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: zombeee
Originally by: Iskyu Geiveme
TBH if he is like many other producers i know, then some of the people undercutting him are his own alts. This way he dictates the price ceiling, and is moving product.
Or they set multiple sell orders at different prices on the same character, to be able to change their orders more frequently.
Confirming these tactics are good.
Patri
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.03.18 22:28:00 -
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If you are so confident, just buy them all and put them on market again at your higher prices. Saves you alot of time building and hauling these babies too :D
What I'm trying to say is; building 18 ships of the same type (or buying them) is not profitable. Theres always someone undercutting you making sales slow. Its way better to invest in a lot of things, especially whatever is highly profitable at the very moment.
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.19 05:31:00 -
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Some context for y'all.
Amarr ships don't sell for crap in Heimatar. As you may know laz0rs are not quite as effective as harsh language against the local Angel rats.
So your "idiot" (and I think I know exactly the manufacturer in question) is doing precisely what I did in that market. Build a huge batch, throw it out there at Jita material cost +5% and forget about it for a month. Lowends and mission loot both are pretty cheap in Heimatar so the actual profit is far higher than it appears.
That easy. It's simply not worth the typing to play .01 isk footsie for 3 days in hopes of selling one hull at maximum ISK.
If you want obscene margins with no competition try selling your abaddons in Derelik or Devoid. Granted, there may be no buyers either...
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.19 05:42:00 -
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Edited by: Clair Bear on 19/03/2009 05:44:51
Originally by: General Coochie
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What I'm trying to say is; building 18 ships of the same type (or buying them) is not profitable. Theres always someone undercutting you making sales slow. Its way better to invest in a lot of things, especially whatever is highly profitable at the very moment.
Only if you live in empire 100% of the time.
Now, this was my situation a few months ago. I lived 53 jumps from empire and ran 1 account for six months. I typically only spent 24 hours in empire every week, if that. So I had a 24 hour window to melt the mountains of rat loot my buy orders accumulated, deliver jobs built over the week and put them on the market.
I simply couldn't pull off just in time manufacture. But it was still worth doing the "tradufacturing" thang. Evemeep claimed I pulled in 1B/month ratting and 1.6B/month trading. Not bad for one character doing industry 4 days a month!
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: General Coochie on 19/03/2009 16:22:37
Originally by: Clair Bear
Some context for y'all.
Amarr ships don't sell for crap in Heimatar. As you may know laz0rs are not quite as effective as harsh language against the local Angel rats.
So your "idiot" (and I think I know exactly the manufacturer in question) is doing precisely what I did in that market. Build a huge batch, throw it out there at Jita material cost +5% and forget about it for a month. Lowends and mission loot both are pretty cheap in Heimatar so the actual profit is far higher than it appears.
That easy. It's simply not worth the typing to play .01 isk footsie for 3 days in hopes of selling one hull at maximum ISK.
If you want obscene margins with no competition try selling your abaddons in Derelik or Devoid. Granted, there may be no buyers either...
I've sold 7 in 3 days now, good enough (105mill profit), would probably have sold more if I made more but I thought the market would get flooded like it always does when profit is around 10%.
You should get a manufacturer alt :P But I see the reason for doing it in large bulks in that context. However its not efficient if you do wanna cash in the isk as I see it.
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Lowends and mission loot both are pretty cheap in Heimatar so the actual profit is far higher than it appears.
Dont understand what you mean by that really.
You said you made 1bill trading, how much did you invest in trading during this period?
I'm interested in you profit in % to see if my way really sucks as much as some of you make it out to do. It would only take me 1-1,5bill investments to make 1 bill a month.
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