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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: RdAndy on 17/08/2004 17:06:16 a simple question, many MMORPGs die after a year, i dont think EVE is going to, with shiva coming soon... ahem... and a few more expansions after that planned, or so i heard, i just wonder how much longer do you guys think you will play this game?
for me, i will play at least till christmas, first to see how good shiva is and thats the end of my current 6 month subscription.
/edit forgot to put this in the original, ive never played a game for more than 18 months, so i guess thats probly the maximum i will be playing this one too (that is 14 more months from now) but EVE could be something special, that gets me hooked for longer... 
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: RdAndy on 17/08/2004 17:06:16 a simple question, many MMORPGs die after a year, i dont think EVE is going to, with shiva coming soon... ahem... and a few more expansions after that planned, or so i heard, i just wonder how much longer do you guys think you will play this game?
for me, i will play at least till christmas, first to see how good shiva is and thats the end of my current 6 month subscription.
/edit forgot to put this in the original, ive never played a game for more than 18 months, so i guess thats probly the maximum i will be playing this one too (that is 14 more months from now) but EVE could be something special, that gets me hooked for longer... 
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MiloMorai
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:02:00 -
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Not gonna stop.
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MiloMorai
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:02:00 -
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Not gonna stop.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:04:00 -
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Friend this game is just coming out of testing. Back a time players where mad that they where paying testers. Well it all worked out and now we have our space game. --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:04:00 -
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Friend this game is just coming out of testing. Back a time players where mad that they where paying testers. Well it all worked out and now we have our space game. --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:05:00 -
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LOL. Read my sig thats all i have to say.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:05:00 -
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LOL. Read my sig thats all i have to say.
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:11:00 -
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Forever. I practically live here.
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:11:00 -
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Forever. I practically live here.
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Roughneck18
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:17:00 -
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I have played in beta and currently for the last 7 months or so. I do get bored but unless your broke and can't afford it, then I see no reason to quit training. When i decide to log in agian my friends will not be that far ahead of me. 
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Roughneck18
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:17:00 -
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I have played in beta and currently for the last 7 months or so. I do get bored but unless your broke and can't afford it, then I see no reason to quit training. When i decide to log in agian my friends will not be that far ahead of me. 
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John Sheridan
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:21:00 -
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You mean you have yet to learn the joys of endless mining? that's what gets me playing a sad need to mine forever. I am hoping that in SHIVa the roids start to look more like Attractive women to break up the tedium.... well, I suppose the crashes to desktop since the last patch do that too, Seriously I reckon it's a mathematical formula - (amount of fun)-(Annoyance with CCP X number of CTD)- (Days till Middle Earth Online starts)x(number of skill points) 
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John Sheridan
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:21:00 -
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You mean you have yet to learn the joys of endless mining? that's what gets me playing a sad need to mine forever. I am hoping that in SHIVa the roids start to look more like Attractive women to break up the tedium.... well, I suppose the crashes to desktop since the last patch do that too, Seriously I reckon it's a mathematical formula - (amount of fun)-(Annoyance with CCP X number of CTD)- (Days till Middle Earth Online starts)x(number of skill points) 
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:28:00 -
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number of skill points/100 you mean? other wise, i like that formula,
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:28:00 -
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number of skill points/100 you mean? other wise, i like that formula,
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:30:00 -
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hmm, started more then a year ago and see me going on for another if things keep going. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:30:00 -
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hmm, started more then a year ago and see me going on for another if things keep going. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Valrandir
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:30:00 -
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Until the servers shut down forever.
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Valrandir
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:30:00 -
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Until the servers shut down forever.
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:43:00 -
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Untill the missile-nerfs arrives. It will be the blow of death to solo hunting.
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:43:00 -
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Untill the missile-nerfs arrives. It will be the blow of death to solo hunting.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:47:00 -
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when something else grips me like eve does
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.08.17 17:47:00 -
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when something else grips me like eve does
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:03:00 -
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it might be a better question then, to ask, how long do you guys think EVE will stay alive?
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:03:00 -
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it might be a better question then, to ask, how long do you guys think EVE will stay alive?
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:04:00 -
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i lie it will be either when soloing in eve is gone (could be soon) or when middle earth online comes out.
Eh if im forced out by nerfs il go play planetside again, If the nerf bat thinks people will stay when theres so much choice its infor 1 massive shock.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:04:00 -
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i lie it will be either when soloing in eve is gone (could be soon) or when middle earth online comes out.
Eh if im forced out by nerfs il go play planetside again, If the nerf bat thinks people will stay when theres so much choice its infor 1 massive shock.
 (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: RdAndy ...with shiva coming soon... ahem...
Define "Soon".
CCP had said 3rd Quarter 2004 but now it looks like November at the earliest and don't be too surprised if that slips.
For me continued playing will depend on the severity of the missile nerf and how Shiva works. I figure EVE has till about Christmas for me at which time I will re-evaluate. Ever***** II should be out by then as well so might have somewhere else to go.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: RdAndy ...with shiva coming soon... ahem...
Define "Soon".
CCP had said 3rd Quarter 2004 but now it looks like November at the earliest and don't be too surprised if that slips.
For me continued playing will depend on the severity of the missile nerf and how Shiva works. I figure EVE has till about Christmas for me at which time I will re-evaluate. Ever***** II should be out by then as well so might have somewhere else to go.
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Terminus Est
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:08:00 -
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Due to the nature of skill training in eve, i will probably be more tempted to keep an active subscription if at a certain point i find i am bored or another (non subscription game) catches my attention. I cant therefore predict how long ill play Eve.
It also depends on competition, and there is none in the horizon. None i can see, at least.
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Terminus Est
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:08:00 -
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Due to the nature of skill training in eve, i will probably be more tempted to keep an active subscription if at a certain point i find i am bored or another (non subscription game) catches my attention. I cant therefore predict how long ill play Eve.
It also depends on competition, and there is none in the horizon. None i can see, at least.
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Korben Allahn
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:34:00 -
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I will probably be here until EVE sunsets.
I keep a teddy bear in my pod with me. A teddy bear with sharp teeth, massive claws, and a pinache for eating the flesh of podded corpses. I call him "Fuzzy". |

Korben Allahn
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:34:00 -
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I will probably be here until EVE sunsets.
I keep a teddy bear in my pod with me. A teddy bear with sharp teeth, massive claws, and a pinache for eating the flesh of podded corpses. I call him "Fuzzy". |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: flummox on 17/08/2004 18:45:55 yeah. probably until the official servers shutdown. but, then i'll be buying the rights to this game and then i'll be playing FlummoxOnline: Mekalekahi Mekahyneeho. subscription fees will be simply to donate your old computer husks and network gear so i can build a huge server. hopefully, in 2012 AD, with all your extra computer donated, i could concievably have a small server for each region. maybe, if you guys are crazy enough, we can dig through the old equipment have a crappy computer to run each system!
anyways. enjoy your time on EVE now and wait for FlummoxOnline... TL13 here i come!
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: flummox on 17/08/2004 18:45:55 yeah. probably until the official servers shutdown. but, then i'll be buying the rights to this game and then i'll be playing FlummoxOnline: Mekalekahi Mekahyneeho. subscription fees will be simply to donate your old computer husks and network gear so i can build a huge server. hopefully, in 2012 AD, with all your extra computer donated, i could concievably have a small server for each region. maybe, if you guys are crazy enough, we can dig through the old equipment have a crappy computer to run each system!
anyways. enjoy your time on EVE now and wait for FlummoxOnline... TL13 here i come!
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:48:00 -
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My subscription ends 09/09/04 and I've completely lost faith in this game, the developers, and the direction they are taking Eve.
Patches aren't being released with sufficient bug-testing, the patches aren't fixinf bugs in the correct priority, and the main selling point of Eve, PVP, sucks majorly.
I seriously doubt I'll be playing much longer.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:48:00 -
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My subscription ends 09/09/04 and I've completely lost faith in this game, the developers, and the direction they are taking Eve.
Patches aren't being released with sufficient bug-testing, the patches aren't fixinf bugs in the correct priority, and the main selling point of Eve, PVP, sucks majorly.
I seriously doubt I'll be playing much longer.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Arkanis
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
the main selling point of Eve, PVP, sucks majorly.
How could you "fix" pvp in a way effective enough to keep you or anyone else playing?
I'm only getting my first tastes of (proper) pvp now so I can't comment.
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Arkanis
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
the main selling point of Eve, PVP, sucks majorly.
How could you "fix" pvp in a way effective enough to keep you or anyone else playing?
I'm only getting my first tastes of (proper) pvp now so I can't comment.
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Vilkata
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:04:00 -
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Until WoW or Guild Wars comes out if they don't fix the rediculous lab situation that punishes new players and denies them a large portion of the advertised game.
Vilkata Mascot of Rome |

Vilkata
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:04:00 -
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Until WoW or Guild Wars comes out if they don't fix the rediculous lab situation that punishes new players and denies them a large portion of the advertised game.
Vilkata Mascot of Rome |

cashman
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert My subscription ends 09/09/04 and I've completely lost faith in this game, the developers, and the direction they are taking Eve.
Patches aren't being released with sufficient bug-testing, the patches aren't fixinf bugs in the correct priority, and the main selling point of Eve, PVP, sucks majorly.
I seriously doubt I'll be playing much longer.
I feel the same way. Although I'm gonna wait untill the unbalance-patches arrive, then I can atleast hang out and have some fun with my corp m8s.
Originally by: Arkanis
How could you "fix" pvp in a way effective enough to keep you or anyone else playing?
I'm only getting my first tastes of (proper) pvp now so I can't comment.
Step 1 would be to stop nerfing all the weapons.
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert My subscription ends 09/09/04 and I've completely lost faith in this game, the developers, and the direction they are taking Eve.
Patches aren't being released with sufficient bug-testing, the patches aren't fixinf bugs in the correct priority, and the main selling point of Eve, PVP, sucks majorly.
I seriously doubt I'll be playing much longer.
I feel the same way. Although I'm gonna wait untill the unbalance-patches arrive, then I can atleast hang out and have some fun with my corp m8s.
Originally by: Arkanis
How could you "fix" pvp in a way effective enough to keep you or anyone else playing?
I'm only getting my first tastes of (proper) pvp now so I can't comment.
Step 1 would be to stop nerfing all the weapons.
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:09:00 -
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:) looks like there will be a lot of interest in FlummoxOnline !! w00t!
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

flummox
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:09:00 -
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:) looks like there will be a lot of interest in FlummoxOnline !! w00t!
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:10:00 -
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If I knew how to fix PvP I'd be Oveur 
He's my one shining ray of hope for this game and I hope his new baby-dev doesn't distract him too much from the game.
PvP is hard to fix because if you make it too easy to recover and the alliance wars are infinite and, eventually, very boring. Conversely, make it too hard to recover and nobody will dare to take their implants into space.
Something needs to be done to force people from building up in one system, something needs to make losing a conq. station more costly (but that, no doubt, would cause more blobbing up as alliances seek to cut the cost of losing a conq. station).
I dunno - the method of pvp itself is a limiting factor and thats why I have very little hope for it being fixed.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:10:00 -
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If I knew how to fix PvP I'd be Oveur 
He's my one shining ray of hope for this game and I hope his new baby-dev doesn't distract him too much from the game.
PvP is hard to fix because if you make it too easy to recover and the alliance wars are infinite and, eventually, very boring. Conversely, make it too hard to recover and nobody will dare to take their implants into space.
Something needs to be done to force people from building up in one system, something needs to make losing a conq. station more costly (but that, no doubt, would cause more blobbing up as alliances seek to cut the cost of losing a conq. station).
I dunno - the method of pvp itself is a limiting factor and thats why I have very little hope for it being fixed.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

SavX
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:10:00 -
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World Of Warcraft. |

SavX
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:10:00 -
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World Of Warcraft. |

RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:12:00 -
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I dont play any more, just training my char till I want to come back.
Just so boring to play right now   This char is perm banned on forums :S |

RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:12:00 -
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I dont play any more, just training my char till I want to come back.
Just so boring to play right now   This char is perm banned on forums :S |

HeavyMetal
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:22:00 -
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let see i was in the alpha and in beta then release and still here so i guess there gonna have to shut the servers down for me to stop
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HeavyMetal
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:22:00 -
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let see i was in the alpha and in beta then release and still here so i guess there gonna have to shut the servers down for me to stop
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert PvP is hard to fix because if you make it too easy to recover and the alliance wars are infinite and, eventually, very boring. Conversely, make it too hard to recover and nobody will dare to take their implants into space.
That's really it in a nutshell and the proper "fix" is probably non-existant. The problem is there really is no balance point. What is tolerable recovery for one is totally intolerable to someone else. You have diehard players and casual players. You have grognards in EVE and carebears and never the twain shall meet. Whatever CCP chooses they are bound to **** off some significant portion of the EVE community.
The ultimate root problem lies in no one wanting to play a game they ôloseö at. Certainly no one wants to pay money to lose. While there is no strict win or lose in EVE certainly people can tell if they are doing well or poorly. So MMOGĆs have to allow everyone to advance and never really get hit too hard. They would lose massive amounts of players if it took someone a month or more to recover every time something went wrong for them.
Seems to me the only hope is to shift ôlosingö to alliances. I mean really let an alliance lose while the individual players can continue on. Then you get a potential sense of accomplishment while not drastically affecting individuals. As it stands two alliances can currently war endlessly if one, despite being on the ôlosingö side, chooses to continue indefinitely for spiteĆs sake.
Not sure how that all gets fixed and if POS (and Shiva more broadly) will be a step in that direction or no help. Still, I have put a lot into EVE so I am willing to stick it out a bit longer and see what Shiva all adds up to.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert PvP is hard to fix because if you make it too easy to recover and the alliance wars are infinite and, eventually, very boring. Conversely, make it too hard to recover and nobody will dare to take their implants into space.
That's really it in a nutshell and the proper "fix" is probably non-existant. The problem is there really is no balance point. What is tolerable recovery for one is totally intolerable to someone else. You have diehard players and casual players. You have grognards in EVE and carebears and never the twain shall meet. Whatever CCP chooses they are bound to **** off some significant portion of the EVE community.
The ultimate root problem lies in no one wanting to play a game they ôloseö at. Certainly no one wants to pay money to lose. While there is no strict win or lose in EVE certainly people can tell if they are doing well or poorly. So MMOGĆs have to allow everyone to advance and never really get hit too hard. They would lose massive amounts of players if it took someone a month or more to recover every time something went wrong for them.
Seems to me the only hope is to shift ôlosingö to alliances. I mean really let an alliance lose while the individual players can continue on. Then you get a potential sense of accomplishment while not drastically affecting individuals. As it stands two alliances can currently war endlessly if one, despite being on the ôlosingö side, chooses to continue indefinitely for spiteĆs sake.
Not sure how that all gets fixed and if POS (and Shiva more broadly) will be a step in that direction or no help. Still, I have put a lot into EVE so I am willing to stick it out a bit longer and see what Shiva all adds up to.
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Death Priest
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:57:00 -
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At Least 5 Years or more. If I and my freinds can play Yankee Trader and Tradewars/2000/02 for years then we will all be here for at least that long.. And look you DONT even run out of turns  
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Death Priest
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:57:00 -
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At Least 5 Years or more. If I and my freinds can play Yankee Trader and Tradewars/2000/02 for years then we will all be here for at least that long.. And look you DONT even run out of turns  
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John Bishop
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:59:00 -
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probally till the day the server no longer runs
_______________________________________________ sorry for the spelling and gramtic errors,,, im a redneck cowboy what did you expect anyways????
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John Bishop
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:59:00 -
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probally till the day the server no longer runs
_______________________________________________ sorry for the spelling and gramtic errors,,, im a redneck cowboy what did you expect anyways????
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:13:00 -
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after offering my wallets full content, i must say, im on the way out...
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:13:00 -
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after offering my wallets full content, i must say, im on the way out...
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:52:00 -
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been playing for about 5 months
i'll stop when
- they turn the servers off - someone makes Elite Online ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:52:00 -
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been playing for about 5 months
i'll stop when
- they turn the servers off - someone makes Elite Online ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~
yeah but no but yeah but no but |

Teeth
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:55:00 -
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Til my girlfriend tells me not to.
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Teeth
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:55:00 -
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Til my girlfriend tells me not to.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:58:00 -
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Dunno. Eve is a secondary game to me. One that I play from time to time to do something different between marathon EverQuest (my primary game) runs. EverQuest 2 will probably also eat away at my Eving time, but I probably wouldn't cancel. Unless a better space faring online game shows up.
EQ > All 
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.17 20:58:00 -
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Dunno. Eve is a secondary game to me. One that I play from time to time to do something different between marathon EverQuest (my primary game) runs. EverQuest 2 will probably also eat away at my Eving time, but I probably wouldn't cancel. Unless a better space faring online game shows up.
EQ > All 
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Raia
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Posted - 2004.08.17 21:00:00 -
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until I find something more like EnB
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Raia
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Posted - 2004.08.17 21:00:00 -
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until I find something more like EnB
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loladoll
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Posted - 2004.08.17 21:12:00 -
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well, I played Civilisation (the original) for about 10 years So I think i'll die before I stop playing this game 
(Out of character :I could of course let loladoll be part of my inheritance, so my children can play with her afterwards) IC : so i'll never really stop : I'm immortal ______________________________________ live is tough and then you get a clone |

loladoll
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Posted - 2004.08.17 21:12:00 -
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well, I played Civilisation (the original) for about 10 years So I think i'll die before I stop playing this game 
(Out of character :I could of course let loladoll be part of my inheritance, so my children can play with her afterwards) IC : so i'll never really stop : I'm immortal ______________________________________ live is tough and then you get a clone |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.08.17 21:27:00 -
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oh, and no silly game with sword and trolls and dragons and sh1t is even remotely likely to draw me away
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yeah but no but yeah but no but |

meowcat
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Posted - 2004.08.17 21:27:00 -
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oh, and no silly game with sword and trolls and dragons and sh1t is even remotely likely to draw me away
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yeah but no but yeah but no but |

Naos Zapatero
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:32:00 -
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My guess is if "Shiva" is not jawdroppingly fantastic and here quick-smart there is going to be a huge turnover in the playerbase, I Don't think it will be the end of EVE but it wont be something EVE will recover from.
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Naos Zapatero
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:32:00 -
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My guess is if "Shiva" is not jawdroppingly fantastic and here quick-smart there is going to be a huge turnover in the playerbase, I Don't think it will be the end of EVE but it wont be something EVE will recover from.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:53:00 -
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IMO nothing beats EVE, and I consider it highly unlikely anything will even come close to the enjoyement EVE brings me in the near future. Nothing is certain, but today I'd say I'll be here till there no longer is a here. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:53:00 -
[78]
IMO nothing beats EVE, and I consider it highly unlikely anything will even come close to the enjoyement EVE brings me in the near future. Nothing is certain, but today I'd say I'll be here till there no longer is a here. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:54:00 -
[79]
let face it half u who say til server shuts will be gone in 8 months tops and until server shut could be faster than u think if devs dont get their ass in gear and remove that nerf bat from tombs hands.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:54:00 -
[80]
let face it half u who say til server shuts will be gone in 8 months tops and until server shut could be faster than u think if devs dont get their ass in gear and remove that nerf bat from tombs hands.
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Frankinator
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:02:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Frankinator on 18/08/2004 03:47:30 Imho, the game is at it's peek atm. But that's just me, call me an optimist mebe and it's only gonna get better from this point on. U could say I'm still playing cause of the time spent already playing. It's great being with a community for over a year, knowing all about it and seeing it develop itself.
Mebe I should buy an Aquarium ...
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Frankinator
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:02:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Frankinator on 18/08/2004 03:47:30 Imho, the game is at it's peek atm. But that's just me, call me an optimist mebe and it's only gonna get better from this point on. U could say I'm still playing cause of the time spent already playing. It's great being with a community for over a year, knowing all about it and seeing it develop itself.
Mebe I should buy an Aquarium ...
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:50:00 -
[83]
Not renewing any of my 3 accounts - game is dead in the water atm and if shiva is, as castor was then I feel sorry for the new comers. Hope Im proved wrong but just feel that the game isnt going anywhere fast atm . (Not a flame just my opinion)
Regards Al Thorr
I Am in shape, ROUND is a shape |

Al Thorr
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:50:00 -
[84]
Not renewing any of my 3 accounts - game is dead in the water atm and if shiva is, as castor was then I feel sorry for the new comers. Hope Im proved wrong but just feel that the game isnt going anywhere fast atm . (Not a flame just my opinion)
Regards Al Thorr
I Am in shape, ROUND is a shape |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.08.18 00:33:00 -
[85]
when a walrus grows wings and fly and smacktalks you from the sky!
hey that rhymes  
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.08.18 00:33:00 -
[86]
when a walrus grows wings and fly and smacktalks you from the sky!
hey that rhymes  
www.dark-cartel.com |

Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.18 00:46:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Al Thorr Not renewing any of my 3 accounts - game is dead in the water atm and if shiva is, as castor was then I feel sorry for the new comers. Hope Im proved wrong but just feel that the game isnt going anywhere fast atm . (Not a flame just my opinion)
Regards Al Thorr
what was wrong with castor  
i will stay as long as i can
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.18 00:46:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Al Thorr Not renewing any of my 3 accounts - game is dead in the water atm and if shiva is, as castor was then I feel sorry for the new comers. Hope Im proved wrong but just feel that the game isnt going anywhere fast atm . (Not a flame just my opinion)
Regards Al Thorr
what was wrong with castor  
i will stay as long as i can
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Zhakk
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:05:00 -
[89]
I'm a lifer, I love playing EvE and I brought two of my friends into the game 
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Zhakk
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:05:00 -
[90]
I'm a lifer, I love playing EvE and I brought two of my friends into the game 
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Yakoza
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:28:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Yakoza on 18/08/2004 03:36:32 I have only quit because I could no longer play in the time I had paid for. I only see myself not playing if that happens again. Eve is the only mmorpg where you can afford to go afk for a month and still hold some ability to play. It's also avoids the niche that 90% of the modern mmorpgs hold where they force you to play every day for 6 hours at the least to stay at a level where you won't be a useless piece of Gou shi. I like my social life, it's purdy!
Originally by: Vilkata Until WoW or Guild Wars comes out if they don't fix the rediculous lab situation that punishes new players and denies them a large portion of the advertised game.
Now I'm not picking on anyone but I don;t see how you can rationalize that a game you have never played will be the saviour of mmorpg's. I mean really, all you've seen are screenshots at best and we all know that screenshots depict how good a game is . True you may be in the World of Warcraft beta but if yuou were wth are you doing here, go play that game if you like it more. I don;t mean to poke fun or attack anyone is specific but if you like that game more why even post?
I do however agree that with the current setup the whole production part of eve is fubar. Because of the amount of work required to even start the most basic parts of that path I cannot be bothered. A definate fix is required. [(Base cost to rent*number of slots held)=rnet cost. Calculate once and that become the Base price for that person?] --------------------------------------------- The opinions posted here are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the goals or opinions of my corperation or affiliates. "BS > Cruiser | Cruiser > Frigate | Frigate(s) > BS" -Vlad Hazzard "'You wreck Asteroid (Scordite) for 215 m3 of ore'" -Pandora Panda "It seems that some people think that by aquiring a battleship they are entitled to some kind of invulnerability-switch -Marc Wiatt |

Yakoza
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:28:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Yakoza on 18/08/2004 03:36:32 I have only quit because I could no longer play in the time I had paid for. I only see myself not playing if that happens again. Eve is the only mmorpg where you can afford to go afk for a month and still hold some ability to play. It's also avoids the niche that 90% of the modern mmorpgs hold where they force you to play every day for 6 hours at the least to stay at a level where you won't be a useless piece of Gou shi. I like my social life, it's purdy!
Originally by: Vilkata Until WoW or Guild Wars comes out if they don't fix the rediculous lab situation that punishes new players and denies them a large portion of the advertised game.
Now I'm not picking on anyone but I don;t see how you can rationalize that a game you have never played will be the saviour of mmorpg's. I mean really, all you've seen are screenshots at best and we all know that screenshots depict how good a game is . True you may be in the World of Warcraft beta but if yuou were wth are you doing here, go play that game if you like it more. I don;t mean to poke fun or attack anyone is specific but if you like that game more why even post?
I do however agree that with the current setup the whole production part of eve is fubar. Because of the amount of work required to even start the most basic parts of that path I cannot be bothered. A definate fix is required. [(Base cost to rent*number of slots held)=rnet cost. Calculate once and that become the Base price for that person?] --------------------------------------------- The opinions posted here are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the goals or opinions of my corperation or affiliates. "BS > Cruiser | Cruiser > Frigate | Frigate(s) > BS" -Vlad Hazzard "'You wreck Asteroid (Scordite) for 215 m3 of ore'" -Pandora Panda "It seems that some people think that by aquiring a battleship they are entitled to some kind of invulnerability-switch -Marc Wiatt |

Geonavis
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Geonavis on 18/08/2004 03:55:13
Originally by: loladoll well, I played Civilisation (the original) for about 10 years So I think i'll die before I stop playing this game 
(Out of character :I could of course let loladoll be part of my inheritance, so my children can play with her afterwards) IC : so i'll never really stop : I'm immortal
same here, actually there is only a few games that i have stopped playing completly, i still load up games like elite or civ sometimes, so i think i will be whit EVE for a long time :)
oh and wow that everyone talks about, do they got spaceships? noo, just bloody elfs and dwarfs
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Geonavis
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:53:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Geonavis on 18/08/2004 03:55:13
Originally by: loladoll well, I played Civilisation (the original) for about 10 years So I think i'll die before I stop playing this game 
(Out of character :I could of course let loladoll be part of my inheritance, so my children can play with her afterwards) IC : so i'll never really stop : I'm immortal
same here, actually there is only a few games that i have stopped playing completly, i still load up games like elite or civ sometimes, so i think i will be whit EVE for a long time :)
oh and wow that everyone talks about, do they got spaceships? noo, just bloody elfs and dwarfs
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.18 06:04:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Naos Zapatero My guess is if "Shiva" is not jawdroppingly fantastic and here quick-smart...
We already know it won't be till November (or very late October at best) and while one would hope that date doesn't slip it woudn't really be a shocker if it did. Don't know if that is quick for you or not.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.18 06:04:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Naos Zapatero My guess is if "Shiva" is not jawdroppingly fantastic and here quick-smart...
We already know it won't be till November (or very late October at best) and while one would hope that date doesn't slip it woudn't really be a shocker if it did. Don't know if that is quick for you or not.
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Dufas
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Posted - 2004.08.18 07:04:00 -
[97]
the game that we bought on the shelves is finally comming out with shiva...atleast the one i wanted...this first year was pretty much a paid beta test...shiva (im betting a december release, the same time castor first came out) is gonna rock if its even close to what they say will be in it...and i plan on playing till all the roids have been mined atleast once 
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Dufas
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Posted - 2004.08.18 07:04:00 -
[98]
the game that we bought on the shelves is finally comming out with shiva...atleast the one i wanted...this first year was pretty much a paid beta test...shiva (im betting a december release, the same time castor first came out) is gonna rock if its even close to what they say will be in it...and i plan on playing till all the roids have been mined atleast once 
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Jericho Ronin
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Posted - 2004.08.18 07:38:00 -
[99]
Not very much longer.
Too many skills, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy too long train. Then once they are trained and you get some benefit they nerf it.
The devs need to think more and do less...or at the very least think before they do.
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Jericho Ronin
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Posted - 2004.08.18 07:38:00 -
[100]
Not very much longer.
Too many skills, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy too long train. Then once they are trained and you get some benefit they nerf it.
The devs need to think more and do less...or at the very least think before they do.
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Myko
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Posted - 2004.08.18 08:01:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Myko on 18/08/2004 08:03:38 The weirdest thing is that if you do quit the game, you find yourself drawn back to forums every once in a while and eventually you realise that the faults you perceived werent as bad as you thought, its only ~ú10 a month and promises so much for the future...until something better (thats space based) comes along there isnt any way im leaving again.
The other thing about eve is that unlike freelancer, privateer or elite there is no end-game, there will always be new stuff to buy/destroy and there is no one setup that can defeat everything (i hope).
On a similar topic, how would any other space-based MMORPG 'work' better than eve? So far all the major problems i've seen in my 1+ year playing are endemic to the balance between pve and pvp and so would apply to all MMORPG's unless they neglected one aspect. Often 90% of the annoyance i suffer are from people (on the froums) trying to turn this game into their own personal playground rather than an environment where lots of different play styles can be accomodated.
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Myko
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Posted - 2004.08.18 08:01:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Myko on 18/08/2004 08:03:38 The weirdest thing is that if you do quit the game, you find yourself drawn back to forums every once in a while and eventually you realise that the faults you perceived werent as bad as you thought, its only ~ú10 a month and promises so much for the future...until something better (thats space based) comes along there isnt any way im leaving again.
The other thing about eve is that unlike freelancer, privateer or elite there is no end-game, there will always be new stuff to buy/destroy and there is no one setup that can defeat everything (i hope).
On a similar topic, how would any other space-based MMORPG 'work' better than eve? So far all the major problems i've seen in my 1+ year playing are endemic to the balance between pve and pvp and so would apply to all MMORPG's unless they neglected one aspect. Often 90% of the annoyance i suffer are from people (on the froums) trying to turn this game into their own personal playground rather than an environment where lots of different play styles can be accomodated.
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Havalon
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:18:00 -
[103]
Well for me, my account subscription runs out some time in September and it wont be renewed. Ive come and gone about 5 times now since launch and come back hoping i can enjoy it but every time I do I realise its still the same old thing...boring. Just my opinion.
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Havalon
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:18:00 -
[104]
Well for me, my account subscription runs out some time in September and it wont be renewed. Ive come and gone about 5 times now since launch and come back hoping i can enjoy it but every time I do I realise its still the same old thing...boring. Just my opinion.
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Commander Jones
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:35:00 -
[105]
Unless the world ends before eve does I'll be playing it untill the day they shut it down
"You end up paying good money for the sort of treatment you ancestors spent their short, brutal lives trying to avoid. That's progress"
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Commander Jones
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:35:00 -
[106]
Unless the world ends before eve does I'll be playing it untill the day they shut it down
"You end up paying good money for the sort of treatment you ancestors spent their short, brutal lives trying to avoid. That's progress"
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:38:00 -
[107]
LOL it shocks me how many think that shiva will just drop a load content into game and fix the dev problem.
Id bet u dont see half shiva till this time next year just like castors content.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:38:00 -
[108]
LOL it shocks me how many think that shiva will just drop a load content into game and fix the dev problem.
Id bet u dont see half shiva till this time next year just like castors content.
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:43:00 -
[109]
hey thanks for all the response, i see there are still a lot of hardcore fans to keep the game going for a while yet.
but since i started this thread, i guess im kind of entitled to hi-jack it too... those of you who are quitting, any chance i can have a disabled account with some decent sp? I'm finding it increasingly tempting to get an alt, and i dont want to make it from scratch. 
thanks
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:43:00 -
[110]
hey thanks for all the response, i see there are still a lot of hardcore fans to keep the game going for a while yet.
but since i started this thread, i guess im kind of entitled to hi-jack it too... those of you who are quitting, any chance i can have a disabled account with some decent sp? I'm finding it increasingly tempting to get an alt, and i dont want to make it from scratch. 
thanks
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:10:00 -
[111]
Eve is doomed...........
IS what I hear from some, not sure why though, yes it may not interest you anymore or hold your attention. For a player like myself who rattles through games at light speed when I get them and then put them up on a shelf to collect dust after a month or 2 at most Eve has held me captivated for over 14 months.
The game mechanics at times can be frustrating but then I guess all games online or single player have their obvious flaws. What Eve has that goes beyond this is the community. Players of all types, nations, races and sex all wrapped into a united blanket called Eve. Most of who appreciate what Eve has to offer and take enjoyment from it on a daily basis.
In the 14 months Eve has gone from strength to strength and I can see it continuing to do so.
Like one person said above 'It is only when you leave that you realise the issues are not as bad as you thought!'
I am here until the end........
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:10:00 -
[112]
Eve is doomed...........
IS what I hear from some, not sure why though, yes it may not interest you anymore or hold your attention. For a player like myself who rattles through games at light speed when I get them and then put them up on a shelf to collect dust after a month or 2 at most Eve has held me captivated for over 14 months.
The game mechanics at times can be frustrating but then I guess all games online or single player have their obvious flaws. What Eve has that goes beyond this is the community. Players of all types, nations, races and sex all wrapped into a united blanket called Eve. Most of who appreciate what Eve has to offer and take enjoyment from it on a daily basis.
In the 14 months Eve has gone from strength to strength and I can see it continuing to do so.
Like one person said above 'It is only when you leave that you realise the issues are not as bad as you thought!'
I am here until the end........
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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mystryl
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:14:00 -
[113]
Gonna play till EA-Games takes over then its time to quit.
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mystryl
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:14:00 -
[114]
Gonna play till EA-Games takes over then its time to quit.
The only thing for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing!!! |

Siddy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:27:00 -
[115]
Untill the bitter end .... or when they nerf my sunglases  -------------------------------------------
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:27:00 -
[116]
Untill the bitter end .... or when they nerf my sunglases  -------------------------------------------
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:31:00 -
[117]
well this account is closed when the sub runs out.. think its in october if shivas aint released by then.. but my other account is stil here until january
as always there always the BUT.. so but i will play WOW later with a couple of friends
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:31:00 -
[118]
well this account is closed when the sub runs out.. think its in october if shivas aint released by then.. but my other account is stil here until january
as always there always the BUT.. so but i will play WOW later with a couple of friends
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Malerna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:31:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Teeth Til my girlfriend tells me not to.
Agreed. Till RL stops me or I get too bored.
Till then, bring on the bpo's!
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Malerna
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:31:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Teeth Til my girlfriend tells me not to.
Agreed. Till RL stops me or I get too bored.
Till then, bring on the bpo's!
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:38:00 -
[121]
Ill stick around untill the server ends. I look foward to the time when people start leaving so I can have the universe to my self  ---
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:38:00 -
[122]
Ill stick around untill the server ends. I look foward to the time when people start leaving so I can have the universe to my self  ---
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Jamaria
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Posted - 2004.08.18 13:08:00 -
[123]
I'm really just playing this game to kill time until a more classic mmorpg comes out (i.e. EverQuest 2).
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Jamaria
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Posted - 2004.08.18 13:08:00 -
[124]
I'm really just playing this game to kill time until a more classic mmorpg comes out (i.e. EverQuest 2).
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