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Fairly Arbitrary Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:17:00 - [1] Does **** like jack daniels get stronger if left in the bottle? My housemate is arguing that it gets stronger the longer its left in the bottle, I'm saying it doesnt, and that hes full of it. So , does it?
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:34:00 - [2] No, it doesn't. It ferments a little more, which can change the taste but doesn't actually increase in strength. Whiskey is diluted to a nominal percentage alcohol content during final production and bottling for sale. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
rubico1337	Posted - 2009.03.18 20:44:00 - [3] Edited by: rubico1337 on 18/03/2009 20:47:52 Edited by: rubico1337 on 18/03/2009 20:45:43 Originally by: Verone No, it doesn't. It ferments a little more, which can change the taste but doesn't actually increase in strength. Whiskey is diluted to a nominal percentage alcohol content during final production and bottling for sale. wrong, whiskeys and bourbons dont change in the bottle at all unless opened (the quality reduces due to oxidation) whiskey is distilled from distillers beer(which is made/fermented in a similar process to beer) then the distillers beer is distilled into a high concentration of grain alcohol before being stored in oak barrels where it gets the color and flavor from the barrel. the storage process and the attributes of the barrel are the most significant factors in the taste and quality of the whiskey, the alcohol content is predetermined from the distilling stage previously im 25 miles from lynchburg, we know our wiskey :P
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.03.18 22:10:00 - [4] Originally by: rubico1337 Edited by: rubico1337 on 18/03/2009 20:47:52 Edited by: rubico1337 on 18/03/2009 20:45:43 Originally by: Verone No, it doesn't. It ferments a little more, which can change the taste but doesn't actually increase in strength. Whiskey is diluted to a nominal percentage alcohol content during final production and bottling for sale. wrong, whiskeys and bourbons dont change in the bottle at all unless opened (the quality reduces due to oxidation) whiskey is distilled from distillers beer(which is made/fermented in a similar process to beer) then the distillers beer is distilled into a high concentration of grain alcohol before being stored in oak barrels where it gets the color and flavor from the barrel. the storage process and the attributes of the barrel are the most significant factors in the taste and quality of the whiskey, the alcohol content is predetermined from the distilling stage previously im 25 miles from lynchburg, we know our wiskey :P Which is in a round about way with more details to try and look like a smartass, what I said. He asked if the alcohol content changed over time making the drink stronger, which it doesn't. Whiskeys don't mature in the bottle, only the cask. Those that have been bottled and sealed in their bottle a long time are not older and won't be better than a more recently made whisky matured in wood for a similar time, the only reason they sell for more is purely because of their rarity. Age is only defined by time in storage in the cask. The only thing that changes over time is the taste and characteristic of the blend, and this happens in the cask. The whiskey will barely change if the bottle stays sealed and it doesn't get the chance to react with air. However when the bottle has been opened the taste can change because of interaction with the air, and can lead to a sediment, or sludge building up in the bottom of the bottle. People sometimes consider this to be making the drink "Stronger" because it may have more of a flavour or cause sickness if people have particiularly sensitive digestive tracts. While the alcohol content is primarily determined by distilling characteristics and the flavour by storage, to meet law and regulation whiskey bottled for general sale is partially diluted to ensure each bottle comes within the threshold of the %vol on the bottle's label. To not control this, or to refuse to ensure what you put in the bottle is as the label states, would be breaking the law. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.18 22:37:00 - [5] meh... prefer rum anyways. it fights scurvy and it damn good to heat you up in winter \o/ --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2009.03.18 22:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Grimpak meh... prefer rum anyways. it fights scurvy and it damn good to heat you up in winter \o/ I don't think there's any vitamin C in rum... In before Ralara.
Rawrior Gallente Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.03.18 22:48:00 - [7] Originally by: rubico1337 Edited by: rubico1337 on 18/03/2009 20:47:52 Edited by: rubico1337 on 18/03/2009 20:45:43 Originally by: Verone No, it doesn't. It ferments a little more, which can change the taste but doesn't actually increase in strength. Whiskey is diluted to a nominal percentage alcohol content during final production and bottling for sale. wrong, whiskeys and bourbons dont change in the bottle at all unless opened (the quality reduces due to oxidation) whiskey is distilled from distillers beer(which is made/fermented in a similar process to beer) then the distillers beer is distilled into a high concentration of grain alcohol before being stored in oak barrels where it gets the color and flavor from the barrel. the storage process and the attributes of the barrel are the most significant factors in the taste and quality of the whiskey, the alcohol content is predetermined from the distilling stage previously im 25 miles from lynchburg, we know our wiskey :P i knew that from watching the history channel.. Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Camilo Cienfuegos Earned In Blood	Posted - 2009.03.18 22:49:00 - [8] Quote: I don't think there's any vitamin C in rum... No, but it sure mixes with fruit juice a lot better than whisky... - Originally by: The Cuckoo Good luck in defending idiotic and greedy noobs, as far as I'm concerned, you are their champion.
TimMc Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.18 23:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Quote: I don't think there's any vitamin C in rum... No, but it sure mixes with fruit juice a lot better than whisky... This is true. Whisky doesn't really go with anything but coke.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2009.03.18 23:41:00 - [10] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Quote: I don't think there's any vitamin C in rum... No, but it sure mixes with fruit juice a lot better than whisky... This is true. Whisky doesn't really go with anything but coke. Ginger ale. Just a splash. Try it. Also goes well with sweet vermouth (as in a Manhattan) Also, I used to drink it mixed with warm milk. Awwwww yeah... In before Ralara.
Camilo Cienfuegos Earned In Blood	Posted - 2009.03.18 23:59:00 - [11] Edited by: Camilo Cienfuegos on 18/03/2009 23:59:12 If you've got a cold, Whisky also goes very well with honey, lemon and hot water. Best just before bed! I'm talking real whisky here of course, not Bourbon. - Originally by: The Cuckoo Good luck in defending idiotic and greedy noobs, as far as I'm concerned, you are their champion.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.19 06:30:00 - [12] Originally by: rubico1337 im 25 miles from lynchburg, we know our wiskey :P Derailment on: I visited Lynchburg last September when I was in Winchester for my cousin's wedding. It was pretty awesome. Protip: don't take the tour on an empty stomach. Whereabouts are you from? Derailment off. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Tallaran Kouros Caldari Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.19 09:42:00 - [13] Originally by: rubico1337 Edited by: rubico1337 on 18/03/2009 20:47:52 Edited by: rubico1337 on 18/03/2009 20:45:43 Originally by: Verone No, it doesn't. It ferments a little more, which can change the taste but doesn't actually increase in strength. Whiskey is diluted to a nominal percentage alcohol content during final production and bottling for sale. wrong, whiskeys and bourbons dont change in the bottle at all unless opened (the quality reduces due to oxidation) whiskey is distilled from distillers beer(which is made/fermented in a similar process to beer) then the distillers beer is distilled into a high concentration of grain alcohol before being stored in oak barrels where it gets the color and flavor from the barrel. the storage process and the attributes of the barrel are the most significant factors in the taste and quality of the whiskey, the alcohol content is predetermined from the distilling stage previously im 25 miles from lynchburg, we know our wiskey :P If it's not made from malted barley it's not whisky IMO. You may live near Lynchburg but I live in Scotland and we know our whisky ;)
Tallaran Kouros Caldari Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.19 09:43:00 - [14] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Quote: I don't think there's any vitamin C in rum... No, but it sure mixes with fruit juice a lot better than whisky... This is true. Whisky doesn't really go with anything but coke. Heathen. You can mix bourbon like JD with coke as that makes it drinkable, but you never ever mix a true Scotch with anything except water.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.19 10:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Tallaran Kouros Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Quote: I don't think there's any vitamin C in rum... No, but it sure mixes with fruit juice a lot better than whisky... This is true. Whisky doesn't really go with anything but coke. Heathen. You can mix bourbon like JD with coke as that makes it drinkable, but you never ever mix a true Scotch with anything except water. And even then, anything more than a splash of water is heresy of the highest order. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2009.03.19 11:18:00 - [16] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 19/03/2009 11:19:34 And only if the water is bottle water - preferably from the same watertap as where used during the production of the whiskey! But when it comes to Whiskey... Americans dont "make" whiskey. They make bourbon, which is the same as sump water. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
TimMc Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.19 11:24:00 - [17] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Tallaran Kouros Heathen. You can mix bourbon like JD with coke as that makes it drinkable, but you never ever mix a true Scotch with anything except water. And even then, anything more than a splash of water is heresy of the highest order. Hey I never said it had to be mixed with coke, just its the only thing that works besides straight. I pity my liver when I drink it staright, but the persona it gives you is worth it.
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.03.19 11:43:00 - [18] I'm having trouble not laughing... Americans claiming they know their Whiskey? Any Whisky with an e in the word isn't suited for much other than de-greasing engines. That includes Irish ones. /puts on flame-suit. Oh, and adding ANYTHING, including water/ice to Whisky is heresy. --- Need a new signature?
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.19 12:53:00 - [19] Originally by: rubico1337 im 25 miles from lynchburg Sounds like a friendly place. ----------sig------------------------- A Higher grade of posting Originally by: CCP Mitnal Beware of the revenge of elves for the non-believers.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.19 13:11:00 - [20] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat I'm having trouble not laughing... Americans claiming they know their Whiskey? Any Whisky with an e in the word isn't suited for much other than de-greasing engines. That includes Irish ones. /puts on flame-suit. Oh, and adding ANYTHING, including water/ice to Whisky is heresy. Actually, the "correct" way to drink a single a malt according to the experts is with a splash (ie one or two drops) of water to release the flavour. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.19 13:24:00 - [21] The liquor nationalism in this thread is making me sicker then drinking a fifth of bottom shelf bourbon Cheap bourbon goes good in a few different mixed drinks, but I prefer to drink my whiskey straight and most definitely my Scotch straight. If my stomach could still handle it I would drink the occasional whiskey sour in the summer time. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! =v=
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2009.03.19 13:26:00 - [22] ITT: *****es don't know about the glory of North American whiskeys. In before Ralara.
TimMc Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.19 13:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Any Whisky with an e in the word isn't suited for much other than de-greasing engines. That includes Irish ones. /puts on flame-suit. Grouse?
Askan Sprock Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.19 14:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Thuul'Khalat I'm having trouble not laughing... Americans claiming they know their Whiskey? Any Whisky with an e in the word isn't suited for much other than de-greasing engines. That includes Irish ones. /puts on flame-suit. Oh, and adding ANYTHING, including water/ice to Whisky is heresy. Actually, the "correct" way to drink a single a malt according to the experts is with a splash (ie one or two drops) of water to release the flavour. Ok, here we go. I'm dutch, we only make Jenever, but I damn well know my whisky. Whiskey is everything that Whisky is not, and vice versa. Whisky only comes from Scotland, Whiskey comes from everywhere else. Only whisky made in Scotland which is aged for at least 3 years can be called Scotch. Calling American whiskey bilgewater is tantamount to stupidity: Us Whiskey, or bourbon, is an entirely different product from Scotch. Scotch is (almost) always made from malted barley, American whiskey is generally made from grain (Rye, Corn, etc.). Sake is made from Rice, and Beer from Barley: comparing Bourbon to Whisky would be like comparing Sake to Beer. Apples and Oranges. Both have distinctiveness. Mostly, Bourbon is aged in new Oak casks, so they have a slightly more agressive flavor. Scotch is aged in either sherry or bourbon casks: sherry gives more color and wine like flavor, bourbon casks add less color and more vanilla and sweetness. Many Scotch is therefore aged in used Bourbon casks, which alleviate the aggressiveness of new wood, because the bourbon alchohol has already broken down the harsh flavours in the cask. Take that into account then when you call bourbon swill: many excellent Single Malts could not exist without Bourbon. There is Blended and Single. Single comes from one distillery, but generally from different casks in the same distillery. There is also Single Single whisky, i.e. a Single Cask Single Malt. Blended whisky comes from at least 2 distilleries, up to 150 or even more: johnny walker blue label for instance has an insane amount of different distilleries. Whisky used to be blended to obtain consistent quality, these days Single Malts are obtaining a more exclusive reputation. Personally, I prefer Singles, because you can recognize them instantly, and they all have their own charachter. The personality of a Single is much stronger than a blended. I use Jameson or JD for mixing: Jameson is extremely smooth and triple filtered and has a sweet tang that goes well with coke. JD has it's signature 'tarred' flavor which also mixes very well with coke. Both are excellent in their own right. When drinking straight I always drink malts: I have a nice collection and prefer the Islay malts. Lagavulin especiially is the right Whisky for me. But every malt has it's own signature, so try them all and find your own favourite: Talisker is the insanely spicy one, Cragganmore has the most flowers in the nose but good smoke and spice. Highland Park is a smoky robust Island whisky with a hint of sweetness in the sherry finish. Clynelish is the best appetizer: salty and fresh. This is what makes Singles the best for me: they are all special and have their style, whereas Blended's always taste a little the same. Compare it to a Symphony Orchestra: all the Orchestra's can be billed as a full on sound, but always with the same elements. Pick out a solo of any one part, be it clarinet, violin, cello or whatever, and that will be the emotional highlight of a piece of music with the emotion and personal touch. so it is with blends and singles. Just to quote the famous Michael Jackson (not the singer, the whisky critic who was the first to rate all the singles on a scale from 1 to 100): "Water can be added to straight whisky to taste, but never more than a drop or two. No splashes or dashes. It serves to heighten the smell, so a drop is sufficient. Some people never drink whisky with water." Formerly known as Cornucopian (yes... I'm back) 10mil SP to go to my old position.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.19 14:45:00 - [25] Whiskey mixes with a lot of things but it's heresy to even consider doing so. Especially if you go to some parts of Scotland where you could be lynched for even suggesting the idea. Neat or nothing, you should never even consider watering down a good malt -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
Askan Sprock Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.19 14:49:00 - [26] Just to sign off, I never drink my whisky with water, except when I drink it cask strength. Generally whisky is 35% alcohol in the bottle: It comes out of the cask at 50% or higher, and is diluted. If you drink a Cask Strength whisky, you will get the full blast of flavour like it was straight from the barrel: the downside is that the large amount of alcohol numbs the tastebuds very fast. If I drink a glass of Cask Strength, I always add a drop of water to 'break' the whisky: just call it preference. Also, you don't drink Cask Strength whisky quick, or else you won't taste half of what you're drinking. Lastly: drink your Whisky from a snifter, not in a tumbelr: a Snifter concentrates the smell, and makes the experience much more enjoyable. p.s. Straight whisky on ice with even parts of ginger ale and a wedge of lime is an excellent summertime drink. Sort of an american twist on the Gin & Tonic. Lovely and refreshing. Nothing wrong with it. Formerly known as Cornucopian (yes... I'm back) 10mil SP to go to my old position.
Askan Sprock Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.19 14:51:00 - [27] Edited by: Askan Sprock on 19/03/2009 14:57:18 Edited by: Askan Sprock on 19/03/2009 14:54:21 Originally by: Dantes Revenge Whiskey mixes with a lot of things but it's heresy to even consider doing so. Especially if you go to some parts of Scotland where you could be lynched for even suggesting the idea. Neat or nothing, you should never even consider watering down a good malt Lol yer rousing statement is sandwiched in between my 'drop or two' posts :-). Seriously though, at 57.5% percent alcohol I add a drop or two to my 80 euro Lagavulin Special release thank you very much. And they do the same in the Bowmore Hotel mate :-). I do agree with you though: Mixing a malt is something you just don't do. Blends and Bourbon are excellent mix drinks: the flavor is much tougher in those. Using a tough malt would suck: adding talisker to cola?! the sweet of the coke just wouldn't go with the salt and pepper and heat that talisker has. Ow, and to the OP: Whiskey, Whisky, or Bourbon does not get stronger in the bottle: there's no more sugar to turn into alcohol. If your bottle of drink is filled for less than 2/3 it CAN start to oxidize, which will dull the flavor. Minute quantities of alcohol and water DO evaporate through the cork, but since alcohol evaporates faster, these minute quantities would be more on the side of the alcohol then on the water side: so you whisky might lose maybe 1% of alchohol if you left it in a corked bottle for 5 years. But as to that: no bottle in my collection lasts more than 5 years. Do yourself a favour and get a bottle of 16 year old Lagavulin! IT ARE TEH AWESOME! Formerly known as Cornucopian (yes... I'm back) 10mil SP to go to my old position.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.19 14:52:00 - [28] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/03/2009 14:52:56 An excellent guide there Askan, though might I add that blended whiskies are also often a mixture of both malt and grain whiskies - hence their relative cheapness and less smooth flavour. Also, in the UK at least, the standard strength of a bottle is around 40%. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Askan Sprock Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:01:00 - [29] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/03/2009 14:52:56 An excellent guide there Askan, though might I add that blended whiskies are also often a mixture of both malt and grain whiskies - hence their relative cheapness and less smooth flavour. Also, in the UK at least, the standard strength of a bottle is around 40%. you could be right about the 40% mate. As to mixing grain and malt whiskey: isn't this just done with the ultra cheap stuff that you CAN classify as swill? You know, plastic bottle with a nice scottish flag on it for the stupid tourists? I didn't know that still happened? Walker, Dimple, Grouse etc are all malt blends right? Formerly known as Cornucopian (yes... I'm back) 10mil SP to go to my old position.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:08:00 - [30] On a different note, adding a drink like Vodka to fresh fruit and leaving it for a while will blow the top of your skull off. I've tried peaches, oranges and even blueberries but the best one was with cherries. I got some black cherries and slit them open with a crossed slit and soaked them in Vodka for about 3 months. The vodka was terrific with a cherry flavour but I'd warn anyone not to eat the cherries. I can't be certain but I'd guess the sugar content of the cherries ferments because, just a few of the cherries had my friend so drunk he couldn't walk -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.

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