This is not true.

Start evaluating your options and the tools this game gives everyone equally to use to manifest same, and stop being a little puling victim.

Gods, your kind is SO ******* REVOLTING!

Think, and choose, or leave our game.

And that's coming from a carebear-ish pilot (most of this toon's skills are in the research/invention, manufacturing, and Orca skill-trees, btw, and my combat "main + co-main" make their ISK mostly through missions and exploration) who reeeeeeeeaaaally has not one shred of respect for goons or anything they actually represent.

HTFU or GTFO!

So uh, are you a goon alt? Just have to address that first.

For null/lowsec? For so far i can read on this forum the most whine comes from null/lowsec players.

Not even close, lemming.

Not even freaking close.

This is not true.

Start evaluating your options and the tools this game gives everyone equally to use to manifest same, and stop being a little puling victim.

Gods, your kind is SO ******* REVOLTING!

Think, and choose, or leave our game.

And that's coming from a carebear-ish pilot (most of this toon's skills are in the research/invention, manufacturing, and Orca skill-trees, btw, and my combat "main + co-main" make their ISK mostly through missions and exploration) who reeeeeeeeaaaally has not one shred of respect for goons or anything they actually represent.

HTFU or GTFO!

It's true. Look at all the whiny nullsec carebears in this thread.

"Oh look at me, I'm in GoonSwarm, we're so hardcore cuz our alliance gives us free ships and we shitpost. Deerrrrr."

How does a single hardbear defend himself from a random NPC-corp Cataganker warping into his belt and alpha striking him?

He really can't. All he can do is just be hard and suck it up..

why would they be a "hardbears"? all they do is dying..... its not so hard :)

Well, no, we're hard core because we play the game in an environment that allows others to open fire on us without them instantly losing their ships.

You are not hard core, because you hide in high sec and pretend it's CCP's fault because low sec is an impenetrable wall of death and they haven't done enough to nerf PvP so you can get through.


He fits a tank.

1) Blob warfare does not make you "hardcore", especially when your ships are free.

2) Suicide ganking makes you a pansy because your target cannot pre-emptively strike you sans a billion ISK wardec.

3) Tanking a Hulk just means you lose that much more ISK when you get ganked. I know this, because Goonswarm, in an effort to enhance epeen and be "contrary on the forums", likes to post killmails featuring tanked Hulks every time some miner says "my tank is ungankable".

So again: Hardbears have no way to defend themselves, but they go out everyday and run their missions and mine in their Hulks. And no one is paying for their ships except themselves. That's hard. Hence, hardbears.

Kthx.

I think situational awareness is the most important thing anyone in any region of Eve can practice. Don't afk mine/mission, constantly check local and aligning to a station or gate should someone unfriendly warp into your vicinity are things that are so elementary that it's almost like breathing.

I don't engage in blob warfare.


"sans a billion ISK wardec"? I'm not even sure what you are trying to say there, but suicide ganking is merely the inevitable eventuality of a broken war dec system.

CCP are now fixing this apparently, and war decs may become worth while. (Decs will follow individuals around, and be applied against their new corps should they try and run).


It doesn't mean your hulk is ungankable, it means it is less likely to get ganked.


No one pays for my ships :( And out in real space we actually lose them every now and then. Miners QQ if they get killed once a month.

Try living in null sec and see how many ships you lose a month.

There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.

For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".

Screw suicide ganking, it's a lost cause and only useful for the odd indie/hulk kill. Killing anything decent with suicide ganking is both boring and, usually, unprofitable. Its a stupid mechanic that has only become such a big "issue" because high sec care bears have been successful in eliminating virtually every other form of non-consensual PvP.

Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?

And what forms of non-consensual PvP have their been? Apart from war dec's (which are being changed) The only other ways to engage in non-consensual PvP (In Empire) are to simply attack the target and accept the consciences (suicide ganking) or tricking your oppenent into inadvertently breaking the rules themselves thus allowing the other party to lawfully retaliate. Oh and you could always try to join a carebear corp and kill the members from the inside!

Now what other forms of non-consensual PvP have the care bears successfuly eliminated?

Simi Kusoni Is an idiot.

Concord was once tankable, response times have been buffed to hell (multiple times), insurance payouts removed for ships with GCC, ships have been introduced designed specifically to avoid combat (t2 transports, jump freighters, t3 cruisers), ships with gcc can no longer boomerang, swapping out ships in an orca was nerfed, sec status loss has been increased, the number of concurrent war decs was limited to three and cost designed to scale to ridiculous amounts and the decision declaring dec shields/dissolving and reforming corps etc. an exploit were reversed.

There are probably more examples, but you get the point. Not to mention the natural proliferation of JFs and the like resulting in the modern day invincible logistics chains, that is going to have to be dealt with at some point.

All these examples revolve around the current methods of non-consensual PvP. CCP has altered the workings of these after players found ways to obtaine results which CCP had not intended. The fact that 'carbears' as you like to label them brought these 'bugs' to CCP's attention does not mean CCP is trying to wrap them in cotton wool and make Hi-sec a safe and fun place to be, only to bring it into line with what thier (CCP) vision of what hi-sec should be.

As for responce times, insurance payouts ect these have been added/buffed becasue you proved to CCP that thier consequences were not adequate enough.

swapping out ships from an Orca effects the miners as much as it effects the PvP'ers. Now I can't store my Hulk in my Orca if I've been attacked by rats/players.

Ships have been introduced to make travel in low sec and 0.0 a little safer. unfortunately (for you) these ships can opperate in Hi-sec as well.

So you're no longer claiming that no changes have been made, now you're just claiming that CCP changed it because they/care bears wanted high sec/low sec/null sec to be safer?

That was kind of my original point, thank you for making it for me.

No what I was talking about was the mechanics. You stated that the carebears were shutting down forms of non-consensual PvP which is not true... they are as I listed and I am still waiting or you to list the forms of non-consensual PvP that are no longer available.

Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?

OMG GUYS, NEUTRAL IN LOCAL, EVERYONE DOCK.