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Soren	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:28:00 - [31] Is Criminal Connections working? I don't see it making a difference with my Pirate fraction standings. _________________________________________________________
Soren	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:28:00 - [32] Is Criminal Connections working? I don't see it making a difference with my Pirate fraction standings. _________________________________________________________
Mangold	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:03:00 - [33] Originally by: Haratu Originally by: Opalfruit Edited by: Opalfruit on 19/08/2004 01:05:11 Nope none of the standing altering skills actually work although they show it on your standings info. Been like his for awhile They work for me... many of the social skills require you to do one mission for the corp in question and then skills like connections kicks in. How nice. I've got -5.1 with Ammatar and with the diplomacy skill I'm down to -3.89 but their navy still attack me. I'm not even close of doing missions for them.... I check last night and the diplomacy skills is still broken in my opinion.
Mangold	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Haratu Originally by: Opalfruit Edited by: Opalfruit on 19/08/2004 01:05:11 Nope none of the standing altering skills actually work although they show it on your standings info. Been like his for awhile They work for me... many of the social skills require you to do one mission for the corp in question and then skills like connections kicks in. How nice. I've got -5.1 with Ammatar and with the diplomacy skill I'm down to -3.89 but their navy still attack me. I'm not even close of doing missions for them.... I check last night and the diplomacy skills is still broken in my opinion.
Camar	Posted - 2004.08.26 14:35:00 - [35] Edited by: Camar on 26/08/2004 14:41:46 Mangold: It seems diplomacy ONLY affects agents, so when u reach -1 you can get an agent for that faction. I recomend doing a few important missions for Caldari Navy and you will go under -4.99 in no time. I'm still at it after 2 weeks and have another 3 weeks to look forward to doing caldari mission to get certain standings better then -4.99 **Edit: However, Social does not seem to work, got it to lvl 5 and couldn't see any change at all to any of my standings. It states it should give another 5% boost... ...and with the light all life vanished...
Camar	Posted - 2004.08.26 14:35:00 - [36] Edited by: Camar on 26/08/2004 14:41:46 Mangold: It seems diplomacy ONLY affects agents, so when u reach -1 you can get an agent for that faction. I recomend doing a few important missions for Caldari Navy and you will go under -4.99 in no time. I'm still at it after 2 weeks and have another 3 weeks to look forward to doing caldari mission to get certain standings better then -4.99 **Edit: However, Social does not seem to work, got it to lvl 5 and couldn't see any change at all to any of my standings. It states it should give another 5% boost... ...and with the light all life vanished...
Gundahar	Posted - 2004.08.27 02:54:00 - [37] Social Works :D at lvl5 you get a 25% boost, ie if you do a mission and at social lvl0 it was to go by 1.00 with social 5 it will go up by 1.25 for that mission.. it is not a bonus that takes your overall rating up by xx% it gives a boost to how fast it goes up. Negotiations works as intended. it is giving the bonus. as it boosts your Agents Effective Quality up, higher EQ = Higher pay and remember EvE Rounds down, so you may have had a normal pay of 30k and it boosted by 15% giving a total of 34500, but rounded down to 34000. as agents like nice round figures :P Cheers GunDaHar
Gundahar	Posted - 2004.08.27 02:54:00 - [38] Social Works :D at lvl5 you get a 25% boost, ie if you do a mission and at social lvl0 it was to go by 1.00 with social 5 it will go up by 1.25 for that mission.. it is not a bonus that takes your overall rating up by xx% it gives a boost to how fast it goes up. Negotiations works as intended. it is giving the bonus. as it boosts your Agents Effective Quality up, higher EQ = Higher pay and remember EvE Rounds down, so you may have had a normal pay of 30k and it boosted by 15% giving a total of 34500, but rounded down to 34000. as agents like nice round figures :P Cheers GunDaHar
Ki Shodan	Posted - 2004.08.27 12:57:00 - [39] what about Diplomacy? is it finaly sorted and safe to train it? patch notes and known issues do not go to deep into skills, it seems.
Ki Shodan	Posted - 2004.08.27 12:57:00 - [40] what about Diplomacy? is it finaly sorted and safe to train it? patch notes and known issues do not go to deep into skills, it seems.
Claus	Posted - 2004.08.27 13:35:00 - [41] Originally by: Ki Shodan what about Diplomacy? is it finaly sorted and safe to train it? patch notes and known issues do not go to deep into skills, it seems. Ki, yes I have trained both and have experienced no problems with my standings. ------------- You have to go out of your mind from time to time to stay sane.
Claus	Posted - 2004.08.27 13:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Ki Shodan what about Diplomacy? is it finaly sorted and safe to train it? patch notes and known issues do not go to deep into skills, it seems. Ki, yes I have trained both and have experienced no problems with my standings. ------------- You have to go out of your mind from time to time to stay sane.
Claus	Posted - 2004.08.27 13:37:00 - [43] Originally by: Gundahar Social Works :D at lvl5 you get a 25% boost, ie if you do a mission and at social lvl0 it was to go by 1.00 with social 5 it will go up by 1.25 for that mission. But unfortunately your standing loss (e.g. losing Amarr standing working for Minmatar agents) is also boosted. I can see how that can be fair -- but it struck me as a bit weird ------------- You have to go out of your mind from time to time to stay sane.
Claus	Posted - 2004.08.27 13:37:00 - [44] Originally by: Gundahar Social Works :D at lvl5 you get a 25% boost, ie if you do a mission and at social lvl0 it was to go by 1.00 with social 5 it will go up by 1.25 for that mission. But unfortunately your standing loss (e.g. losing Amarr standing working for Minmatar agents) is also boosted. I can see how that can be fair -- but it struck me as a bit weird ------------- You have to go out of your mind from time to time to stay sane.
Ayms	Posted - 2004.08.27 15:27:00 - [45] The trade part of this will come with Shiva's new market. "They" said "somewhere" that skills will contol how many open orders you can have. And possible how many regions you can have them in, and/or from how far away you can manipulate them. I too would like to see more of the gang skills, but more along the lines of gang control(ie formations)
Ayms	Posted - 2004.08.27 15:27:00 - [46] The trade part of this will come with Shiva's new market. "They" said "somewhere" that skills will contol how many open orders you can have. And possible how many regions you can have them in, and/or from how far away you can manipulate them. I too would like to see more of the gang skills, but more along the lines of gang control(ie formations)
Autumn River	Posted - 2004.08.27 17:50:00 - [47] Edited by: Autumn River on 27/08/2004 17:52:03 What I don't understand is the Learning Multiplier that is on the social skills and some other skills. The learning skills and half of the social skills show a 1x learning multiplier. But three of the social skills have either 3x or 4x multipliers. What does this mean? Thanks, Autumn
Autumn River	Posted - 2004.08.27 17:50:00 - [48] Edited by: Autumn River on 27/08/2004 17:52:03 What I don't understand is the Learning Multiplier that is on the social skills and some other skills. The learning skills and half of the social skills show a 1x learning multiplier. But three of the social skills have either 3x or 4x multipliers. What does this mean? Thanks, Autumn
Erasmo	Posted - 2004.08.27 20:09:00 - [49] The base number of skill points needed to get a skill to level one is 250. 1x means the skill needs 250 skill points to get to the first level, and to get the skill to level 5, it will need a total of 256k skill points, which translates into about 6-7 days to get the skill to level 5 depending on your attributes. A higher modifier means that it takes more skill points, and thus more time to train the skill.
Erasmo	Posted - 2004.08.27 20:09:00 - [50] The base number of skill points needed to get a skill to level one is 250. 1x means the skill needs 250 skill points to get to the first level, and to get the skill to level 5, it will need a total of 256k skill points, which translates into about 6-7 days to get the skill to level 5 depending on your attributes. A higher modifier means that it takes more skill points, and thus more time to train the skill.
Autumn River	Posted - 2004.08.29 11:48:00 - [51] Thanks for the explaination. Other than the six learning skills, are there any more books that will raise the attributes?
Autumn River	Posted - 2004.08.29 11:48:00 - [52] Thanks for the explaination. Other than the six learning skills, are there any more books that will raise the attributes?
Matthew Johnson	Posted - 2004.08.30 09:08:00 - [53] As far as i remeber shiva will bring several new trading skills, all depending on charisma. +++ Trade...good for you, good for me +++
Matthew Johnson	Posted - 2004.08.30 09:08:00 - [54] As far as i remeber shiva will bring several new trading skills, all depending on charisma. +++ Trade...good for you, good for me +++
Ki Shodan	Posted - 2004.08.30 17:02:00 - [55] Originally by: Autumn River Other than the six learning skills, are there any more books that will raise the attributes? curently not. there are rumors about advanced learning skills, but as usual, belive, that they work, only, when you have these skills and concluded for yourself, that they are working. ;-) -- my current auctions
Ki Shodan	Posted - 2004.08.30 17:02:00 - [56] Originally by: Autumn River Other than the six learning skills, are there any more books that will raise the attributes? curently not. there are rumors about advanced learning skills, but as usual, belive, that they work, only, when you have these skills and concluded for yourself, that they are working. ;-) -- my current auctions
Ki Shodan	Posted - 2004.08.30 17:05:00 - [57] Originally by: Matthew Johnson As far as i remeber shiva will bring several new trading skills, all depending on charisma. well, what about the current trading skills? what about making them work in first place, before puting in new ones. -- my current auctions
Ki Shodan	Posted - 2004.08.30 17:05:00 - [58] Originally by: Matthew Johnson As far as i remeber shiva will bring several new trading skills, all depending on charisma. well, what about the current trading skills? what about making them work in first place, before puting in new ones. -- my current auctions

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