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Princess Scarlett	Posted - 2009.03.22 04:27:00 - [1] Hi everyone. about me. I have 2 characters: (one 22 days old - another 2 days old main) and alts on trials for price checks. Was doing missions and salvaging for 22 days on my fighter character and made 45 mil in missions and salvage over those 22 days - after apocripha decided to restart the character to see if i can use the 100% bonus better and made another char - also amarr. today while i was waiting for my logic and eidetic mem 4 training to finish on this new character and being bored of L1 missions; I decided to buy and sell stuff while i wait. Suprisingly I have made 20 million ISK in trading profits in 3 hours today on 25 mil trading capital (everything what was left from that 40 mil after buying all learning skillbooks). After comparing 20 MIL in 3 hours and 40 mil in 22 days I have decided to stay in trading and come back to missions later or maybe never. I Want to quickly expand the volumes because such price opportunities wont exist for long (were probably caused by patch inflow of noobs). Looking for a private placement or a loan investor (1 or 2 people max) for my unlisted working capital loan. Source of income - price scalping & arbitrage. Term - 1 month Average trade income - from 10,000 ISK per m3 Interest - 20% per month Amount 300-400 mil. (would prefer 2-3 investors maximum) Money needed ONLY for trading. No ships, rigs, implants will be purchased - i have everything set up. Because I usually sell everything very quickly in principle if you require your money back urgently I can return the ISK within a couple of days - with interest for the period i had the loan on my books). ah forgot to say. i am a foreign exchange trader in real life.. trade USD against european currencies. post your questions here.. or contact me ingame princess scarlett(main) or maxizz(alt)
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.03.22 05:10:00 - [2] I wonder what happenned to the good old days when people start the game and work at earning their cash by either mission running, mining or trading. Try the game out for a few months get their feet wet slowly. No screw it, I have played the game for 3 weeks so lets go and tap the MD forum for a few hundred million. That's how the game should start! Play the game and have some fun!!!!!!
Princess Scarlett	Posted - 2009.03.22 05:52:00 - [3] Originally by: cosmoray I wonder what happenned to the good old days when people get their feet wet slowly. you talk like my grandma.. she is 87 soon
Keyser Kahn Stellar-Parallax Corp	Posted - 2009.03.22 06:15:00 - [4] Edited by: Keyser Kahn on 22/03/2009 06:23:09 Drop me an evemail / convo in game and I'll sort you out with the funds (it's time for this month's wild, blind stab in the dark). 15% will be more than adequate. Edited to add: I presume you have considered grabbing a plex and selling that to get your funds? I realise that is using oog funds to enable yourself which may be against your personal play style / ethic - but equally it may be something you haven't considered.
Capt Nightmare Gallente Eve Logic	Posted - 2009.03.22 06:16:00 - [5] Mmmmmm ok so basically you managed to make a PROFIT of 20 million isk in 3 hours using 25 million as trading capital. So basically thats a 80% profit you are getting from the money you put in. (That is very impressive!) Which would mean it would take you 12 hours to get 472 million isk. (Ofcourse this is not entirely how it works :) ) 45 million(your current capital) * 1.8 ^ 4 = 472 million(rounded down) If you see profitable trades which require 5-6 billion isk then DAMN! I'm not looking hard enough! I don't think you will have ANY trouble making this "small amount" you need really soon if you can turn 25 million into 45 million in 3 hours. (Added that you are but 24 days old total on eve!)
Frenden Dax Dax Acquisitions	Posted - 2009.03.22 06:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Princess Scarlett and i am starting slow.. 300-400 mil is a small amount. i see profitable trades which require 5-6 Billion of cash (making 1.6 mil from a trade within a couple of hours) but those are scary and REALLY NEED some capital and warchest and a bit of time. 300-400 mil i can turnaround in 1-2 hours. I struggle to find a reason for this confidence, coming as it does from a person who just started trading today with 25m. First off, 300-400m is not a 'small amount'; most people in EVE don't have that much in their wallets at the moment. Second, as already noted where the frak do you see these 5-6b trades? Are you confusing market manipulation with trading? Third and last, how do you possibly know that you can turn around 300-400m in a couple hours? You have never worked with that amount before and only just started looking at your markets today.
Manalapan Dynasty Banking	Posted - 2009.03.22 07:21:00 - [7] Originally by: Princess Scarlett Edited by: Princess Scarlett on 22/03/2009 05:57:34 Originally by: cosmoray I wonder what happenned to the good old days when people get their feet wet slowly. you talk like my grandma.. she is 87 soon and i am starting slow.. 300-400 mil is a small amount. i see profitable trades which require 5-6 Billion of cash (making 1.6 mil from a trade within a couple of hours) but those are scary and REALLY NEED some capital and warchest and a bit of time. 300-400 mil i can turnaround in 1-2 hours. If you can do that then why are you having ISK problems? Dynasty Banking
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.03.22 08:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Princess Scarlett I Want to quickly expand the volumes because such price opportunities wont exist for long (were probably caused by patch inflow of noobs). What if the 'noobs' stop coming or gasp someone else (perhaps with billions on hand) sees the same opportunities as you? Trading is an unpredictable business. FREE! jumpclone service - NOW 192 locations!
Princess Scarlett	Posted - 2009.03.22 09:24:00 - [9] Thanks everyone who responded. will work hard to pay it back!
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.03.22 13:23:00 - [10] Originally by: Princess Scarlett Edited by: Princess Scarlett on 22/03/2009 11:14:12 Thanks everyone who responded. will work hard to pay it back and will keep you posted on the progress You're welcome and good luck If you got your isk the lack of answers won't be a problem right now, but rest assured this thread will turn up next time you ask for isk FREE! jumpclone service - NOW 192 locations!

cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.03.22 13:59:00 - [11] I love the fact that if you make 20-25 M in a couple of hrs why not trade for a few days and you'd have the 400-500M you need. If this was private you keep all the cash, why share.
Ji Sama	Posted - 2009.03.22 14:35:00 - [12] Originally by: cosmoray I love the fact that if you make 20-25 M in a couple of hrs why not trade for a few days and you'd have the 400-500M you need. If this was private you keep all the cash, why share. shhh cosmo..... obvious is obvious? "the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play"
Princess Scarlett	Posted - 2009.03.22 16:35:00 - [13] Originally by: cosmoray I love the fact that if you make 20-25 M in a couple of hrs why not trade for a few days and you'd have the 400-500M you need. If this was private you keep all the cash, why share. well i agree in general. but the markets i trade are very unstable and opportunities might dissapear.. to fully use them you need to buy loads of stuff and it needs a lot of cap
Aeragogos Orycheious	Posted - 2009.03.22 16:37:00 - [14] Ha Princess is my alt... this is an obvious ponzi scheme right?
Drab Cane Mining Emporium inc.	Posted - 2009.03.22 18:07:00 - [15] Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious Ha Princess is my alt... this is an obvious ponzi scheme right? No, it looked like a possible scam. You managed to garner support from Estel Arador, congratulations. But you did it like a con man. Fast talk that sounds good, but "don't look behind the curtain." "Trust me," you say. But pulling this kind of stunt only highlights the anonymity of players. In most cases, we really don't know, can't know, who the RL person is behind a character. So it is difficult to trust. The audit process is not about opening your entire account to the world. It's about letting another player who has earned the respect and trust of the MD community get to know you, so they can vouch for you. That's what its really about. Its also about being upfront and open to the community, being ready to let at least one other person know that "See, this is what I'm doing. I am worthy of your trust." If you don't want to have an audit done, fine. Don't. Ignore the people calling for one. Over time, if you are successful, you will gather a group of loyal investors. I wish you all the best. ----------------------------------------------- - Who Dares, Wins
Aeragogos Orycheious	Posted - 2009.03.22 19:35:00 - [16] Originally by: Drab Cane Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious Ha Princess is my alt... this is an obvious ponzi scheme right? No, it looked like a possible scam. You managed to garner support from Estel Arador, congratulations. But you did it like a con man. Fast talk that sounds good, but "don't look behind the curtain." "Trust me," you say. But pulling this kind of stunt only highlights the anonymity of players. In most cases, we really don't know, can't know, who the RL person is behind a character. So it is difficult to trust. The audit process is not about opening your entire account to the world. It's about letting another player who has earned the respect and trust of the MD community get to know you, so they can vouch for you. That's what its really about. Its also about being upfront and open to the community, being ready to let at least one other person know that "See, this is what I'm doing. I am worthy of your trust." If you don't want to have an audit done, fine. Don't. Ignore the people calling for one. Over time, if you are successful, you will gather a group of loyal investors. I wish you all the best. actually tho this is not my alt i was just commenting because why is no one asking this dude for an audit but everyone demanded i get one? hows that fair?
flakeys Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name	Posted - 2009.03.22 19:39:00 - [17] Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious Originally by: Drab Cane Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious Ha Princess is my alt... this is an obvious ponzi scheme right? No, it looked like a possible scam. You managed to garner support from Estel Arador, congratulations. But you did it like a con man. Fast talk that sounds good, but "don't look behind the curtain." "Trust me," you say. But pulling this kind of stunt only highlights the anonymity of players. In most cases, we really don't know, can't know, who the RL person is behind a character. So it is difficult to trust. The audit process is not about opening your entire account to the world. It's about letting another player who has earned the respect and trust of the MD community get to know you, so they can vouch for you. That's what its really about. Its also about being upfront and open to the community, being ready to let at least one other person know that "See, this is what I'm doing. I am worthy of your trust." If you don't want to have an audit done, fine. Don't. Ignore the people calling for one. Over time, if you are successful, you will gather a group of loyal investors. I wish you all the best. actually tho this is not my alt i was just commenting because why is no one asking this dude for an audit but everyone demanded i get one? hows that fair? With each post your making you name known more , and it ain't in a good way.Just let it go it's a game.
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.03.22 19:49:00 - [18] Originally by: Drab Cane You managed to garner support from Estel Arador, congratulations. Wishing someone 'good luck' is not support for a business plan (in fact, a good business plan won't need luck ). The question I asked (and those of others) stand. Princess evidently didn't want to bother answering them and apparently did get the requested isk, so I don't see a point of insisting on an answer now. The questions (and this thread) will no doubt come up again next time Princess asks for investors. FREE! jumpclone service - NOW 192 locations!
Keyser Kahn Stellar-Parallax Corp	Posted - 2009.03.22 20:21:00 - [19] Posting for purpose of transparancy (and so that my peers can potentially point and laugh at my poor acumen). Have had a good chat with the op and they have demonstrated a reasonable amount of trade / market knowledge despite the age of their characters and certainly purports to be doing the things that would allow a good return. I may of course have completley failed to read the thread correctly but can't see the op being asked to submit to an audit but regardless I would not have been interested in that at this time. I play this game for fun and escapism (not in a cloak, staff and laser way) and part of my game parameters are taking moderate risks and helping others where possible. It doesn't always work out but when it does then that is my buzz from playing. I have provided a loan of 250m to the op at 15% (op kept trying to make it 20%) for a period ending 22/04/2009 with interest and reporting weekly. The op has also offered a bonus at the end of the period if trade is as good as they hope which I have declined.
Ji Sama	Posted - 2009.03.22 20:26:00 - [20] well i think you should go with your gut instinct here kayser... so good call perhaps... and grats on the 15% "the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play"

Drab Cane Mining Emporium inc.	Posted - 2009.03.22 21:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Estel Arador Wishing someone 'good luck' is not support for a business plan (in fact, a good business plan won't need luck) My apologies, I misunderstood - I thought you had financed the OP. Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious actually tho this is not my alt i was just commenting because why is no one asking this dude for an audit but everyone demanded i get one? hows that fair? If you look at the posts here, most of them don't take this as a serious investment request. No audit request, because no one was even considering investing. Keyser Kahn spoke with the OP and made his own decision. As I expect your initial investors did. The larger the IPO/Bond, the larger amount that is at risk, the more assurances people will want. ----------------------------------------------- - Who Dares, Wins
Princess Scarlett	Posted - 2009.03.22 22:16:00 - [22] Edited by: Princess Scarlett on 22/03/2009 22:26:33 Edited by: Princess Scarlett on 22/03/2009 22:24:56 Results.. I have raised 300 mil seed ISK for trading purposes. This will be enough to quickly move forward. Will keep you posted with reports. In fact learning more about eve and MILLIONS OF SCAMMERS.. I really should consider myself lucky.
Jason Marshall Gallente Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.23 04:38:00 - [23] I put up seed money after a long conversation with the OP. And with such a little sum, I dont really see the need for an audit. I consider this a high risk investment. Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 04:46:00 - [24] Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious Ha Princess is my alt... this is an obvious ponzi scheme right? you going to be in every IPO, share thread that new marketing camping claiming your a alt as you know it against the rules to impersinate anyone on here . we all cant be as closed minded as you and are willing to do things to prove our worth join from 10,000 isk per share
threeDspider Caldari Caldari and United Breweries The Firm.	Posted - 2009.03.23 10:20:00 - [25] I'll be following this thread methinks, also good luck Princess Scarlett (and backers).
Compound Interest	Posted - 2009.03.23 10:50:00 - [26] With an API key it wouldve bene possible to see if he was telling the truth (chekcing wallet journal). Apart from that you guys more or less made a very big mistake: this character is looking for 300-400mil isk, and is around 20 days old... what do we know? Steam Trial accounts are 21 day trials, what do we know: this person is at the end of his trial and a plex costs around 300million. For those of you who have invested, I wish you the luck and hope sincerely that this is not a conman. Regards
Ji Sama	Posted - 2009.03.23 11:01:00 - [27] yes also one of the reasons i didnt invest... and as someone else said, a good business shouldnt need good luck.... the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play"
Princess Scarlett	Posted - 2009.03.29 19:07:00 - [28] Edited by: Princess Scarlett on 29/03/2009 19:07:59 1st interest paid results 1 week starting capital 25 mil loans 300 mil current assets 650 mil ISK profit 325 mil isk
Ji Sama	Posted - 2009.03.29 19:12:00 - [29] keyser is a good business partner, i am glad you are making your payments on time.. :D gj on the nice roi This is a signature not related to EVE
J Tang Gallente Major Engagement	Posted - 2009.03.29 21:25:00 - [30] Originally by: Armoured C ...you going to be in every IPO, share thread... Hey! Speaking of, it's Armoured C! To Compound Interest: I'm not certain, but I don't think you can use a PLEX fresh off of a trial account.



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