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Shogun Archer
Gallente Brotherhood of Soban CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:24:00 -
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Message >The destruction of the Pleasure Gardens has triggered a massive explosion due to the amount of ammunition stored inside. Ships located close by have been hit by the blast.
Stay away from structures you are blowing up
2009.03.22 21:13:00
Victim: (edited out) Corp: Brotherhood of Soban Alliance: CORPVS DELICTI Faction: NONE Destroyed: Nighthawk System: Abagawa Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 35709
Involved parties:
Name: Cataclysm Cruise Missile / Unknown (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 35709
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Morbidity Sophis
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:25:00 -
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I believe it always did that, but not to that number. Atleast I remember a few missions doing AoE damage when exploding.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:26:00 -
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it appears to be a missile that killed you not any exploding gardens.
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Shogun Archer
Gallente Brotherhood of Soban CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:28:00 -
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Interesting. Well I have destroyed multiple structures in T1 cruisers even and have been quite close to them before and never had that happen.
This was quite surprising to me when my corpy told me about it.
I figured I'd at least post this as a warning to other pilots.
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Shogun Archer
Gallente Brotherhood of Soban CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII it appears to be a missile that killed you not any exploding gardens.
Read the first part of the post. It was ammo from the Pleasure Gardens.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:28:00 -
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Remember that building expoding giving damage, but damn seems like it might have been a lot, were you right on top of it or something?
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Shogun Archer Message >The destruction of the Pleasure Gardens has triggered a massive explosion due to the amount of ammunition stored inside. Ships located close by have been hit by the blast.
Stay away from structures you are blowing up
2009.03.22 21:13:00
Victim: (edited out) Corp: Brotherhood of Soban Alliance: CORPVS DELICTI Faction: NONE Destroyed: Nighthawk System: Abagawa Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 35709
Involved parties:
Name: Cataclysm Cruise Missile / Unknown (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 35709
you took 35709 damage a cruise missile killed you the unknown shooting you did 35709 damage ergo the exploding gardens did 0 damage.
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Shogun Archer
Gallente Brotherhood of Soban CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy Remember that building expoding giving damage, but damn seems like it might have been a lot, were you right on top of it or something?
This actually happened to my corp mate and I haven't had a chance to get the full details from him yet. He just Eve mailed me the details of it...
I didn't thin explosions from structures did any damage at all, although I had sometimes pondered why they didn't. It makes sense that they would but damn... enough damage to destroy a Nighthawk?? lol.
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Tratis Sykes
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:31:00 -
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Jip, there's only one mission where a structure does AoE damage in this category. Damsel in Distress. Fried my Drones one times. The explo radius is somewhat about 35 km.
Your Mission is here. Maybe worth a look.
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Mudad
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:35:00 -
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That building has always had a quite powerful AOE when it goes.
The damage done of 35K represents all the damage received during that fight, including all the merc rats I would imagine right from the start of the mission. Presumably you were too close and your shield was not at full strength.
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Shogun Archer
Gallente Brotherhood of Soban CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mudad That building has always had a quite powerful AOE when it goes.
The damage done of 35K represents all the damage received during that fight, including all the merc rats I would imagine right from the start of the mission. Presumably you were too close and your shield was not at full strength.
Ahhh, ok that makes more sense... Thanks.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:45:00 -
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No you misunderstand, buildings normally DON'T do any damage when they explode, it's a scripted event to make the explosion do damage for that particular mission.
Damsel in Distress level 4 iirc.
if you disagree with me then you should probably post a response and stop reading my signature. |

Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:49:00 -
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ps tell your mate to stop flying nighthawks till he has some skills 35709 is crap tanking ability in a nighthawk.
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Esamir
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:50:00 -
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He needs to check his logs to see what happened.
Mydocs > eve > logs > gamelogs
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Snasty
Caldari The Hippies House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:54:00 -
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I have lost drones to that one...
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII ps tell your mate to stop flying nighthawks till he has some skills 35709 is crap tanking ability in a nighthawk.
A pretty silly statement as you know nothing of what amount of shields he was at the time of the explosion.
35000 in one blow (essentially alpha) even minus resistances is quite a lot.
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NeoTech
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: NeoTech on 23/03/2009 13:57:42 Almost lost my Kronos worth about 3bil in that mission. :D Destroying those structures while ignoring the rats is a bad idea.
P.S: By almost losing it i mean i got out with 3% structure, and no, i'm not ****ing kidding you. =) |

Agent Known
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:58:00 -
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I remember another mission (something diplomat) where the station blows up right in front of you, but it only does 200 or so damage, so unless you did that part in a shuttle...
Actually, I think even a shuttle could withstand it.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:04:00 -
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You should see what happens when a 10/10 plex does that.... Stop, hammer time. |

Shogun Archer
Gallente Brotherhood of Soban CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy No you misunderstand, buildings normally DON'T do any damage when they explode, it's a scripted event to make the explosion do damage for that particular mission.
Damsel in Distress level 4 iirc.
Yeah, I understand... This particular mission and this specific building causes damage when exploding, and my corp mate must have had virtually no shields and was too close when he destroyed it...
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:07:00 -
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so is this a new feature to apocrypha because ive never taken any damage from the exploding gardens when ive done this mission pre apocrypha.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII ps tell your mate to stop flying nighthawks till he has some skills 35709 is crap tanking ability in a nighthawk.
A pretty silly statement as you know nothing of what amount of shields he was at the time of the explosion.
35000 in one blow (essentially alpha) even minus resistances is quite a lot.
How many lvl 4 missions have a 35000 alpha in them ? and to have his shields that low at that point reinforces my statement.
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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII ps tell your mate to stop flying nighthawks till he has some skills 35709 is crap tanking ability in a nighthawk.
A pretty silly statement as you know nothing of what amount of shields he was at the time of the explosion.
35000 in one blow (essentially alpha) even minus resistances is quite a lot.
Something is wrong there....a completely unfitted NH has over 27k EHP... --
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Lord Abbadon
Gallente Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aioa
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII ps tell your mate to stop flying nighthawks till he has some skills 35709 is crap tanking ability in a nighthawk.
A pretty silly statement as you know nothing of what amount of shields he was at the time of the explosion.
35000 in one blow (essentially alpha) even minus resistances is quite a lot.
Something is wrong there....a completely unfitted NH has over 27k EHP...
what he says. |

Shogun Archer
Gallente Brotherhood of Soban CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:27:00 -
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Well, like I said, I haven't talked to him about it yet. He just left the info in a corp mail. Needless to say, he's a very experienced player... an 04 char that has continuously played. If you feel the need to use this thread to EPEEN, feel free, but I am sure it had something to do with his shields being down when he destroyed the structure.
Now I'm sure the flames will be "Just because he's an 04 char doesn't mean he knows what he's doing etc. etc."
But just a few posts up I recall Khlitouros stating that she didn't know that exploding structures caused damage at all, so I will just leave it at that.
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Sandwich PvP
The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:29:00 -
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your friend really needs to forget about the nighthawk until he trains some skills. And that explosion has always done damage during the explosion, most people don't notice it in a bs.
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Bumfish
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:29:00 -
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so this didnt happen to you, it happened to someone you know?
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: AKULA UrQuan on 23/03/2009 14:33:54 [ 2009.03.21 22:15:58 ] (combat) Group of Neutron Blaster Cannon II hits Kruul's Pleasure Gardens for 2510 damage [ 2009.03.21 22:15:58 ] (combat) Group of Neutron Blaster Cannon II hit Kruul's Pleasure Gardens for 2005 damage [ 2009.03.21 22:15:58 ] (combat) Kruul's Pleasure Gardens hits you for 1285 damage
It shouldn't be much of a threat to a Nighthawk. Unless he killed the Pleasure Gardens first and triggered a massive blob to gank him. In that case he was doing it wrong.  |

Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:36:00 -
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Only the pleasure gardens in that mission do it. Seconded about that not being enough to kill you, the fact it is a cataclysm cruise that killed you makes me think you triggered all the spawns by just killing it directly. Guide to forum posting |

Mithos Victus
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:38:00 -
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First, this thread should be in the missions forum.
Second, if you are concerned, check game logs, and if something seems out of the ordinary, petition the loss to CCP.
NOW, I am not saying that the Pleasure Gardens do not do a lot of alpha, I lost a Cormorant to it in an L4 while salvaging as my corpsmates completed the encounter. It made for some good laughs.
BUT, I also recently fitted a Jaguar for tooling around in L1s/L2s for fun on a night when I was extra bored, and I ran into a weird fluke. My top speed with afterburner was 1042m/s but when I logged on the next night, it suddenly dropped to max 500m/s. Yes, I checked the HUD, I took the afterburner out and put it back in, everything. It was not until I completely unfitted, repackaged, and reassembled the ship that the statistics returned to normal.
So I would take a serious look at exactly how much damage he did take, because who knows, maybe this bug applies to shields, armor, or structure, and someone has reported this kind of bug before.
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