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Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:48:00 - [1] Originally by: CDLoon ITT : CCP shows Alliance bias, Again qtiyd
Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 13:33:00 - [2] If they re-named using the established ways of re-naming their alliance they would lose Sov3 in 9 (admittidly crappy) systems and be out of 1bil isk. Since the GMs let them circumvent the rules, it is the equivalent of them being handed Sov3 in 9 systems and free money. It isn't a huge deal, the systems will be taken anyway. But this type of rule bending is one of the reasons why people have no faith in CCP.
Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 13:35:00 - [3] Originally by: Vincent Gaines There have been name changes before, hell my old OT corp (those from SA know OT) was Allied Industrial Defense Syndicate [AIDS] and it got changed.. ironically by a BoB member petitioning it... but those rules are broken countless times. But I still don't see what all the fuss is about, GS has steamrolled ken/bobr and all they have is lowsec and a name 'Offensive' name is a documented reason why a corp/alliance's name will be changed. 'I don't like my ****ty name' is not a reason why names are changed.
Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 13:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Vincent Gaines Originally by: Yonker Originally by: Vincent Gaines There have been name changes before, hell my old OT corp (those from SA know OT) was Allied Industrial Defense Syndicate [AIDS] and it got changed.. ironically by a BoB member petitioning it... but those rules are broken countless times. But I still don't see what all the fuss is about, GS has steamrolled ken/bobr and all they have is lowsec and a name 'Offensive' name is a documented reason why a corp/alliance's name will be changed. 'I don't like my ****ty name' is not a reason why names are changed. do you find it offensive? No, that is why I put it in quotes. But it is clear that the BoB member that petitioned the name was able to convince the GM (gasp) that it was offensive.
Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 14:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Berious Originally by: Aiden Tyrik It's pretty funny how bobr isn't even trying to dispute that they get preferential treatment. Their only response is that we should "quit cryin" lol. Beavers being arrogant and entitled you say? Beavers do not hibernate, but store sticks and logs underwater to feed on during the winter.
Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 14:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Haargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. ^ Are you just gonna copy/paste that everywhere? Lets play a game. Its called choose what was done with in-game mechanics, without intervention by the GM staff and which was not. The major reason this game is so entertaining is because the rules are open but firm. Get scammed? Sorry, they didn't break any rules. Have your corp disbanded by a disgruntled director? Sorry, it was all done with in-game mechanics and didn't break any rules. Re-name your Alliance without paying 1b isk and losing sov in all your system? Nope, sorry the in-game mechanic that allows for this requires that you pay 1b isk and lose sov in all of your systems... what, you're BoB? Oh well, we've cheated for you before, what the hell rename.
Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 14:25:00 - [7] Originally by: enjoi Edited by: enjoi on 24/03/2009 14:24:19 Originally by: Palmer Eldritch In my opinion, the same rules should be applied equally to all players. Like the rule about alt corps, amirite? That Band of Brothers corp is sweeeeet. Please, show me this rule you're alluding to. fake edit: nice try on the edit there.
Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 14:40:00 - [8] Edited by: Yonker on 24/03/2009 14:40:31 Originally by: Karezan Which is probably the exact reason why the rename was allowed. They had to emergency reform in a (now proven to be pointless) attempt to start regaining sov right away. They did not have adequate time to pick a new name for their alliance, and ended up being allowed a rename because of this (or at least I believe this to be the thought process behind it). I'm guessing the key thing here is that they did lose all sov and pay 1b when BoB was disbanded. They requested this change at the time, and it took 2 months for GM's to decide. They just didn't form under the new name they wanted, because they didn't have time to. Yes it's still an exception to the rules, but they did suffer the downsides (paying another 1b and losing all sov), even if they never planned for it. I'm guessing that's where the 2 month comment comes from, the loss of sov was 2 months ago (at the time of the petition), and the decision was only made now. So you're saying if they waited to re-form their Alliance... the consequence would have been that they would have lost Sov correct? In order to re-form quickly they had to use this already created Alliance with a different name, right? So, they had a choice... either lose Sov, or lose their name. They made a choice to keep sov. So what rule is it that says if you don't like the consequence of your decision... CCP will adjust the game to fit your needs? I'm sure A LOT of scammed people would like to petition CCP under this new rule of "Not having to take responsibility for your actions".
Yonker Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Asuri Kinnes Originally by: The Slayer Originally by: King Dave Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd or, is this just yet another instance of, you guessed it, CCP cheating for BOB. Yeh, that name change certainly gave bob an advantage! Damn you CCP for being so biased! Perhaps you missed the part where it saved them from having to disband their alliance and reforum under the new name losing all sov claims (again) and having to fork out a billion isk for the new name (pocket change I know but they dont have r64's any more so...). IMHO: You will NEVER have certainty that the game isn't rigged. Human beings are (in large enough numbers) going to have a few who break the rules. THAT is a certainty. Asking for a large corporation (CCP) to be 100% honest, 100% of the time, is naive (again, imho). You want to REALLY get CCP's attention, you will cancel your account - en mass. Complaining on the boards will probably (imho) accomplish nothing. Getting 2500 people to cancel accounts, even temporarily, will make them sit up and take notice. If you can get an entire (unnamed) 0.0 alliance to cancel for one day - that would get the accountants and administrators on the case of the GM's/Developers to fix this NOW! Otherwise, welcome to GM/Devs Eve-Online... And don't be surprised when it goes to p****! No, I have no affiliation with any 0.0 entity, yes, this is my main, no I don't work for CCP... ________________________________________ Pretty sure the T20 scandal showed that a large body of players has the ability to affect the company in other ways than simply canceling their account.

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