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Faraboot
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:35:00 -
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So I'm reading your latest devblog, and besides the usual announcements about upcoming expansion, the great and never more (in)famous fanfest, and of course the evermore-present talk about Dust what set the tone of the entire blog was (especially with the whole thank you, we love you.. pilots of EvE) you (CCP) being so grateful to us, so full of sweet love and devotion, you just can't help yourselves but to gift us more. To be honest, my first thought was that's nice of them. Until i read on.
Quote:- Fire All Lasers (with Dignity) - Omen and Maller (Cruisers) + Medium Energy Turret and Amarr Cruisers (Skill Books)
- Duty, Honor, State (and Missiles) - Caracal and Moa (Cruisers) + Assault Missiles, Medium Hybrid Turret, Heavy Missiles, Caldari Cruiser (Skill Books)
- Deadly Elegance (Drones Extra) - Vexor and Thorax (Cruisers) + Medium Hybrid Turret and Gallente Cruisers (Skill Books)
- Heavy Iron (Rusted) - Stabber and Rupture (Cruisers) + Assault Missiles, Medium Projectile Turret, Heavy Missiles, Minmatar Cruiser (Skill Books)
- Plug and Play - Full set of +2 Attribute Implants (Limited Ocular Filter Beta, Limited Neural Boost Beta...etc...)
- Refine Your Skills - Memory Augmentation Standard and Cybernetic Subprocessor Standard (Implants) + Scrapmetal, Ice and all other ore Processing (Skillbooks)
- Drill Bits - 10x each ore mining crystal I's (10x Arkonor Mining Crystal I, 10x Bistot Mining Crystal I...etc...10 x Veldspar Mining Crystal I)
- A Paxist Treasure - Pax Ammaria - Collector's Item
Is this how you gift your children? Is this the way of showing how grateful you are for having so many of us, us who 'In doing so over time, (..) have made EVE.' ? And It's not about the damn gifts, It's what you say with it: Thank you. Whatever.
Well it made me sad. Made me feel less appreciated then a naked Bo Derek in a gay bar. Made me thank you by writing this, something I dreaded for long, a whiners post.  |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void
294
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:39:00 -
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Get out, its a Gift. Stop complaining. They dont have to give it to you. And if you dont want it, you dont have to accept it.
Canz I haz ur stuffz
"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |

The D1ngo
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:40:00 -
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Faraboot wrote:So I'm reading your latest devblog, and besides the usual announcements about upcoming expansion, the great and never more (in)famous fanfest, and of course the evermore-present talk about Dust what set the tone of the entire blog was (especially with the whole thank you, we love you.. pilots of EvE) you (CCP) being so grateful to us, so full of sweet love and devotion, you just can't help yourselves but to gift us more. To be honest, my first thought was that's nice of them. Until i read on. Quote:- Fire All Lasers (with Dignity) - Omen and Maller (Cruisers) + Medium Energy Turret and Amarr Cruisers (Skill Books)
- Duty, Honor, State (and Missiles) - Caracal and Moa (Cruisers) + Assault Missiles, Medium Hybrid Turret, Heavy Missiles, Caldari Cruiser (Skill Books)
- Deadly Elegance (Drones Extra) - Vexor and Thorax (Cruisers) + Medium Hybrid Turret and Gallente Cruisers (Skill Books)
- Heavy Iron (Rusted) - Stabber and Rupture (Cruisers) + Assault Missiles, Medium Projectile Turret, Heavy Missiles, Minmatar Cruiser (Skill Books)
- Plug and Play - Full set of +2 Attribute Implants (Limited Ocular Filter Beta, Limited Neural Boost Beta...etc...)
- Refine Your Skills - Memory Augmentation Standard and Cybernetic Subprocessor Standard (Implants) + Scrapmetal, Ice and all other ore Processing (Skillbooks)
- Drill Bits - 10x each ore mining crystal I's (10x Arkonor Mining Crystal I, 10x Bistot Mining Crystal I...etc...10 x Veldspar Mining Crystal I)
- A Paxist Treasure - Pax Ammaria - Collector's Item
Is this how you gift your children? Is this the way of showing how grateful you are for having so many of us, us who 'In doing so over time, (..) have made EVE.' ? And It's not about the damn gifts, It's what you say with it: Thank you. Whatever. Well it made me sad. Made me feel less appreciated then a naked Bo Derek in a gay bar. Made me thank you by writing this, something I dreaded for long, a whiners post. 
I like Bo Derek...
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Nomistrav
High Flyers RED.OverLord
11
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:40:00 -
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Faraboot wrote:Is this how you gift your children? Is this the way of showing how grateful you are for having so many of us, us who 'In doing so over time, (..) have made EVE.' ? 
http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/pod-0050-twitter-christmas-present-complaints-fart-2.jpg
You remind me of those people. |

Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:41:00 -
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Faraboot wrote:a whiners post. 
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Axis Raikkonen
The Black Legionnares SpaceMonkey's Alliance
26
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:42:00 -
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Faraboot wrote: Is this how you gift your children? Is this the way of showing how grateful you are for having so many of us, us who 'In doing so over time, (..) have made EVE.' ?
I feel bad for your parents on Christmas morning.
The OP on Christmas Morning wrote:I SAID I WANTED A DIRTBIKE GODDAMMIT NOT A MUSTANG WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN |

Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
50
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:46:00 -
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OP I will give you 1 billion isk if you biomass yourself. How does that sound? |

MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
577
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:48:00 -
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wahhhh |

Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
435
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:59:00 -
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I think you'll be glad to have a cruiser soon. Summer is coming. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |

JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
171
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Posted - 2012.04.30 18:53:00 -
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Selling the "Refine Your Skills" option (just the implants) lets you buy 2-3 sets of "Plug and Play".
If you like gambling, go for the "A Paxist Treasure" or "Drill Bits" (The latter contains a good ammount of Nocxium. CCP might also do something with the Pax Amarria?).
Predicting a skillbook value crash on all involved skillbooks too; so they'll effectively be worthless or very devaluated. Just sayin'. |

Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
261
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:07:00 -
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Wait 5 years and sell the collector's items for 10 billion ISK.
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Faraboot
BALKAN EXPRESS
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:11:00 -
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The D1ngo wrote: I like Bo Derek...
You're the only one here getting it. Hat's off good sir. |

Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
97
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:20:00 -
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ßâÜ(a¦át¢èa¦áßâÜ) -Damn you CCP, DAMN YOU to Hell for trolling us with that Pax Ammaria.
Just when I got my refining up to a point to make it profitable to buy the book, repo it, then sell the minerals for a profit...you reduce it to Trit
:P |

jason hill
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
62
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:23:00 -
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im sure the veldspar mining chystals will keep chribba happy  |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3331
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:28:00 -
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I miss Aurum haha
And what's up with a Pax Amarria - the original trade goods or... a new item?
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Revman Zim
Babylon Holdings United Interstellar Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:46:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I miss Aurum haha
And what's up with a Pax Amarria - the original trade goods or... a new item?
New item that is spelled differently, according to CCP Greyscale:
Quote:"Pax Amarria" already exists ingame; "Pax Ammaria" is a new collectors' item |

Just Alter
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
71
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:57:00 -
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Why should they gift you something on their birthday?
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Sister Rhode
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.04.30 20:42:00 -
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While the gift is blah for sure, complaining about free stuff is pretty bad form.
I for one, will likely choose the book. It seems the only unique prize in the lot. |

Amanda Holland
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:11:00 -
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wow a QQ I dont understand... whats the list? You didnt put it in enough context that someone who has no idea what youre talking about could even figure out. |

Amanda Holland
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:14:00 -
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lol from EVE is REAL to YOU are EVE
Does that include carebears and whiners? Cause I dont want that EVE |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1879
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:18:00 -
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I can understand the op's disappointment. Those gift items are all easily obtainable in-game and older players already have most of those skills and items.
I would have liked an option to pick one of the various 'Collector' ships that have been introduced to the game in the past. I'm sure a lot of players have an incomplete collection and probably would love to complete their collection of ships, like the rarely seen Interbus shuttle or the new Quafe Industrial, etc.
As for this: A Paxist Treasure - Pax Ammaria - Collector's Item
It sounds interesting but due to lack of information, I don't see how it could be useful or used in-game by the player.
I remember when everyone got the 'Snowballs and Launcher'. That was a unique and excellent fun gift. Too bad it only lasted for a short time due to not being able to resupply the 'Snowballs' as well as them melting after a specific date. I still have pools of melted 'Snowballs' stored in station hangar, just waiting for another cold wave to sweep across the universe again.
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Asl Pls
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:19:00 -
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no remap :'( |

Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
56
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:27:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I can understand the op's disappointment. Those gift items are all easily obtainable in-game and older players already have most of those skills and items.
Crying that CCP's gifts are better value to new players than vets, now that's new... |

Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
142
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:34:00 -
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Well, I kinda understand. It would be nice to have collectible options, aurums or the like instead. Mainly because well, I dunno, it really doesn't seem that neat or fun. Personally, aurum would be alright even, just a little bit or something. :s |

PsychoticMidget
Golden Scimatar Can't Undock. Won't Undock
0
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:42:00 -
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I agree with this but at the same time it is free stuff...
i've only been playing 2 years but i don't need a couple of free cruisers(of any race) or the skills to fly or equip it...
already use +3's on my newest characters so don't need the implants and have all the ore skill books...
don't have a shortage of crystals as i make my own.
and some random collectors item... that doesn't actually do anything
given no other option i was thinking of picking the pax ammaria cause of its possible resale value in the years to come
I'd prefer a free remap. with out asking for anything expensive or powerful
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Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
38
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Posted - 2012.05.02 08:00:00 -
[26] - Quote
lol you should get banned for posting stuff like this |

Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
495
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Posted - 2012.05.02 08:43:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwHrlM4oVSI pretty much this. I have more space likes than you.-á |

Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
132
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Posted - 2012.05.02 08:48:00 -
[28] - Quote
Axis Raikkonen wrote:Faraboot wrote: Is this how you gift your children? Is this the way of showing how grateful you are for having so many of us, us who 'In doing so over time, (..) have made EVE.' ?
I feel bad for your parents on Christmas morning. The OP on Christmas Morning wrote:I SAID I WANTED A DIRTBIKE GODDAMMIT NOT A MUSTANG WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN
Says an SMA that had everything in EVE gifted to them by goons, we get it, you like free presents! |

Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
5
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Posted - 2012.05.02 09:33:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:Selling the "Refine Your Skills" option (just the implants) lets you buy 2-3 sets of "Plug and Play".
If you like gambling, go for the "A Paxist Treasure" or "Drill Bits" (The latter contains a good ammount of Nocxium. CCP might also do something with the Pax Amarria?).
Predicting a skillbook value crash on all involved skillbooks too; so they'll effectively be worthless or very devaluated. Just sayin'. Just a clarification based on what I read on the gifts.
The drill bits gift set does not contain any Nocxium. It contains sets of mining crystals for every type of ore there is in New Eden. Mining crystals are being used with modulated mining lasers/strip miners to give a better yield per cycle of the specific ore (if you are mining the specific asteroid). |

DeltaW7
FACTS on EVE
0
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Posted - 2012.05.02 11:13:00 -
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra wrote:JamesCLK wrote:Selling the "Refine Your Skills" option (just the implants) lets you buy 2-3 sets of "Plug and Play".
If you like gambling, go for the "A Paxist Treasure" or "Drill Bits" (The latter contains a good ammount of Nocxium. CCP might also do something with the Pax Amarria?).
Predicting a skillbook value crash on all involved skillbooks too; so they'll effectively be worthless or very devaluated. Just sayin'. Just a clarification based on what I read on the gifts. The drill bits gift set does not contain any Nocxium. It contains sets of mining crystals for every type of ore there is in New Eden. Mining crystals are being used with modulated mining lasers/strip miners to give a better yield per cycle of the specific ore (if you are mining the specific asteroid).
The mining crystals can be refined to give nocxium. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
31
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Posted - 2012.05.02 13:26:00 -
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I must agree with the OP, sure a gift is a gift but the options given here are 100% crap |

Jonah Gravenstein
275
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Posted - 2012.05.02 13:43:00 -
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Free stuff?, and I didn't even have to post a "Stuff, can I haz"
It's free, they don't have to give us free stuff on their birthday. If you really dislike them all, don't take one, alternatively take the ships, fit them out and then lose them in highly entertaining ways. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
31
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:12:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Free stuff?, and I didn't even have to post a "Stuff, can I haz"
It's free, they don't have to give us free stuff on their birthday. If you really dislike them all, don't take one, alternatively take the ships, fit them out and then lose them in highly entertaining ways.
Let me say it this way then...
Compare this gift round to the first one we had a few months ago... which one had gifts and which one has junk? |

Jonah Gravenstein
275
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:23:00 -
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Yes the choices aren't as good as the ones we got last time, but tbh if CCP were to do that every time it wouldn't be long before they were giving out battleships for free, that is not good for the game.
They started this new way of doing things with a bang, it doesn't mean that the expectations the opening event created should have to be exceeded or matched every time they give us free stuff. By keeping the odd gifts small it remains easy to meet expectations in the long term, I wouldn't expect a choice even approaching the scale of last years to happen until at the very earliest christmas, if we're lucky.
Besides, hopefully the news articles about recent events will lure in some new players, those free gifts are going to be extremely important to them. A cruiser is the attainable future for noobs, not the distant past. Noobs are important, without them no game would ever have become a success, simply because we were all noobs once. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
640
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:25:00 -
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Fine, you don't get a gift. Happier now? - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
719
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:26:00 -
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I wish CCP would add a snowball machine as a gift. 1 unit of clear ice makes 1000 snowballs.
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
329
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:29:00 -
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You know Eve Online has improved when the only complaint players have right now is the kind of FREE gifts they are given. Just like how the Font was the only issue in Crucible. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |

Jonah Gravenstein
275
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:35:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:You know Eve Online has improved when the only complaint players have right now is the kind of FREE gifts they are given. Just like how the Font was the only issue in Crucible.
I know, the swear filter is going to hate me for this,
Kevin Bloody Wilson wrote: "Hey Santa claus you ****! Where's me ******* bike? I've unwrapped all this other junk and there's nothing that I like. I wrote you a ******* letter and I come to see you twice, Ya worn out geriatric bastard, you forgot me ******* bike. If I wanted a pair of bloody thongs, I'd have bloody asked and this cowboy suit and ping pong set you can shove right up your arse! You've stuffed me bloody order up, it's enough to make you spew and I'm not the only one who's snakey, me sister's dirty too! Next time I come to see ya, I'm gonna punch you in the guts and I'll let your ******* reindeer go and kick Rudolf in the nuts!"
seems to be the attitude of some War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Hroya
39
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:42:00 -
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Faraboot wrote:
Is this how you gift your children? Is this the way of showing how grateful you are
Well it does show how Ungratefull one of their children is though.
You go your corridor but. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
31
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:10:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:I wish CCP would add a snowball machine as a gift. 1 unit of clear ice makes 1000 snowballs. 
This... and its 1000% better then the current options... |

Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
353
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:22:00 -
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You do realise they don't have to give you anything.
I am just gonna accept a ship and give it to a newbee in one of the starter systems. It's a gift that keeps on giving.
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Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
67
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:27:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Yes the choices aren't as good as the ones we got last time, but tbh if CCP were to do that every time it wouldn't be long before they were giving out battleships for free, .
I would be ok with that.
 "The next time airport security tells you to put your hands over your head and hold that vulnerable position for seven seconds, ask yourself: Is this the posture of a free man?" |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1609
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:36:00 -
[43] - Quote
Just confirming that the OP is a self entitled douchebag as is any other asshat that is complaining about the gift options.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Faraboot
BALKAN EXPRESS
1
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:48:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Just confirming that the OP is a self entitled douchebag as is any other asshat that is complaining about the gift options.
1st of all I didn't came knocking on your doorstep and started to complain about how crappy your lawn looks like so be nice. And I'm really sorry for the lot of that don't get the point of the post. Don't really care, since I'm expressing my view on the matter not asking for permission or acknowledge from you. I feel that if one has to show gratitude to another, for whatever the reasons are, one should be at least polite enough not to make the gifted party feel, well unappreciated i guess. And I don't mean to be ungrateful or something, I'm just saying how this act from CCP left me feel. A gift is a gift, but this isn't a date, and i'm not impressed. |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
644
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:51:00 -
[45] - Quote
Faraboot wrote: 1st of all I didn't came knocking on your doorstep and started to complain about how crappy your lawn looks like so be nice. And I'm really sorry for the lot of that don't get the point of the post. Don't really care, since I'm expressing my view on the matter not asking for permission or acknowledge from you. I feel that if one has to show gratitude to another, for whatever the reasons are, one should be at least polite enough not to make the gifted party feel, well unappreciated i guess. And I don't mean to be ungrateful or something, I'm just saying how this act from CCP left me feel. A gift is a gift, but this isn't a date, and i'm not impressed.
Firstly: OP still has no idea, still feels entitled to his own misguided opinion
secondly: My lawn looks awesome, I like it wild.
thirdly: I feel that "never look a gift horse in the mouth" should be explored more thoroughly
lastly: You don't get a date.
- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
487
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Posted - 2012.05.04 08:09:00 -
[46] - Quote
@Op
Good grief, what the........
You are correct Sir!!
There are NO Tinfoil hats in the gift list, what bad treatment is this ? Not even a set of crap-post filter spectacles, you know, the one's we use to automatically blot-out crap posts like yours.
Look up the definition of the word "gift".
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
606
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Posted - 2012.05.04 08:10:00 -
[47] - Quote
Give your gifts to someone else then you ungrateful sack of **** they dont have to give you anything. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

hungrymanbreakfast
Xion Limited Primal Force
2
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Posted - 2012.05.04 14:47:00 -
[48] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Yes the choices aren't as good as the ones we got last time, but tbh if CCP were to do that every time it wouldn't be long before they were giving out battleships for free, that is not good for the game.
They started this new way of doing things with a bang, it doesn't mean that the expectations the opening event created should have to be exceeded or matched every time they give us free stuff. By keeping the odd gifts small it remains easy to meet expectations in the long term, I wouldn't expect a choice even approaching the scale of last years to happen until at the very earliest christmas, if we're lucky.
Besides, hopefully the news articles about recent events will lure in some new players, those free gifts are going to be extremely important to them. A cruiser is the attainable future for noobs, not the distant past. Noobs are important, without them no game would ever have become a success, simply because we were all noobs once.
this |

Ravan Hekki
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
16
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Posted - 2012.05.04 15:09:00 -
[49] - Quote
But mommy you didnt get me a horse!  |
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