Originally by: Jmanis Catharg

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Edited by: Jmanis Catharg on 24/03/2009 13:23:54
I merely ask one question. What was stopping them from changing their alliance name just like any other alliance does? By disbanding their alliance and reforming it, paying the 1 bil ISK and dealing with the sov change?

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Originally by: corebloodbrothers

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underlying message implies that the earlier goon action which lead to delve war II is started with eula breach itself, else there is no reason to adjust that mentioned "suffering"
if any this answer implies not BOB is getting a favor but are goons by not intefeering the first time, which is only corrected by a name change, and not by the punishment deserved for account sharing.

what does puzzle me that i wouldnt want to win any war liek this myself, it would be a victory with a stain forever. Whats next ? bribe ? hacking ? I never had so much fun in eve since war started, not the way it started, but the actual fun the game provides. As Bob directors stated on radio , we love the fight itself, thanks for that.

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Originally by: Karezan

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Well, this is a different situation in the sense that they did lose all sov, and they did pay 1b for a new alliance. It's just that they didn't do the disbanding, someone else did, and they didn't change to the alliance with the name they wanted, but a temp one that has now been renamed to what they wanted.

I can agree that this is a messy situation, but CCP felt it was justified, and I doubt this decision was simply made because it's BoB. If you feel CCP is still biased, and after all the past outcries still favors BoB more than anyone else, then pretty much all you can do is quit. Complaining like this while you keep paying/playing doesn't help that much. If I am to believe the accusations, it certainly didn't help in the past (since BoB is still CCP's favorite apparently, despite all past incidents).

If I never showed up for work, but got paid every month anyway, with the only downside being that my boss calls me once a month to let me know he's not very happy with me not showing up, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be too concerned about showing up any time soon. :P

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Originally by: Vincent Gaines

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Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 24/03/2009 14:06:03

Originally by: Couldbe Acrackhead

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Originally by: Vincent Gaines

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allowing a Titan in Amarr.

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what? proof or stfu?

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Three threads down or so.

The same people moaning about CCP favorism at "breaking a rule" support having Chribba moving his Titan to Amarr, thus "breaking a rule"


so u

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Originally by: Karezan

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Which is probably the exact reason why the rename was allowed. They had to emergency reform in a (now proven to be pointless) attempt to start regaining sov right away. They did not have adequate time to pick a new name for their alliance, and ended up being allowed a rename because of this (or at least I believe this to be the thought process behind it).

I'm guessing the key thing here is that they did lose all sov and pay 1b when BoB was disbanded. They requested this change at the time, and it took 2 months for GM's to decide. They just didn't form under the new name they wanted, because they didn't have time to. Yes it's still an exception to the rules, but they did suffer the downsides (paying another 1b and losing all sov), even if they never planned for it. I'm guessing that's where the 2 month comment comes from, the loss of sov was 2 months ago (at the time of the petition), and the decision was only made now.

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Chribba has a dread in Amarr, not a Titan.

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Originally by: Jmanis Catharg

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I present something else to the table.

Originally by: GM Grimmi

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The leadership of KenZoku/Band of Brothers did petition us immediately after they were disbanded and their name was taken. While we worked on the petition for about two months we do not feel that they should suffer because of that.

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While we worked on the petition for two months? I don't know about anyone else, but for me as a software developer who provided a support service to it's customers, two months is $4000 in wages for this support.

How can that be even remotely justified???

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Originally by: Vincent Gaines

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Originally by: Yonker

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Chribba has a dread in Amarr, not a Titan.

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Whatever, capital/supercapital veldspar mining craft.

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did you forget the rest of what I said or just decide to ignore it?

Chribba's DREAD was in Amarr prior to the lowsec restriction.

Those that are crying "OMG CCP are breaking rules" support breaking those rules... these mechanics (because the big issue is the sov 3 in a few systems, right?)

So it's ok to overlook mechanics for one individual, but not to an alliance, be it BoB, Stian, or whatever else. I see.

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Originally by: Ivoryman

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I vote no! This gives Goons + the 70% of all space holding alliances NAP'ed with them something to poast about This whole debacle is made of WIN! imo.

Maybe CCP has had enough of Goons + friends... it's CCP's game, if you don't like it I know a few WoW accounts for sell CCP pulling everyone's 'equality' chain is ****in hilarious Something else to raise your 'righteous swords' against.

Ivory

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Originally by: corebloodbrothers

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Edited by: corebloodbrothers on 24/03/2009 14:55:12
ok, fine then i will disclose, its indeed all in the name, as alot refer too.

kenzoku is a registred trade mark name and the name is licensed and protected. therefor it cannot be used as the name of a alliance ingame or outside on forums. As u can judge from the site itself, the @ means its trademarked name

http://www.kenzoku.com/

which is al fine till the owner complains then u have to remove it in 24 h else fines start rolling in. now thats what happened

the so much refered to eula states name s gonan be changed in that case

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