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Spoon Laissez-Faire	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:48:00 - [2041] I see alot of Goonswarm/something awful alts.... I hardly expect to see this thread taken seriously....
Opus Dai	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:57:00 - [2042]
Lin Bao	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:57:00 - [2043] Originally by: Spoon I see alot of Goonswarm/something awful alts.... I hardly expect to see this thread taken seriously.... You can't refute any point made so you whine about alts instead
Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.25 16:59:00 - [2044] Originally by: Spoon I see alot of Goonswarm/something awful alts.... I hardly expect to see this thread taken seriously.... Bob and friends might dont take it serious. But I think breaking general rules for a small group of players is an issue for the whole playerbase. It in this case has nothing to do with Bob itself. It could have been every other alliance which has developers friends and got other dev favors in the past, if there would be any... Proud member of RZR - Decadence.
Besomyka	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:00:00 - [2045] I support this. No alliance should be able to use GMs to circumvent SOV mechanics. I don't care about the name, this about actualin-game cheating. They should be disbanded, and allowed to to recreate the alliance with that same name. Well, close to it. Apparently it's too long for a player to actually create. They'll be "Band of Brothers Reloade". Which is close enough, I'd think. I'm sure they'd be happy with that. I actually have some sympathy for them, but as far as I know the disbanding and subsequent registration of the BoB name was completely legitimate and caused by a meta-game betrayal which CCP has expressly allowed, if not actively encouraged. It is, in fact, one of EvE's strongest selling points. So while I know it must suck to be BoB this recent change must NOT be allowed to stand. Sympathy is not justification for cheating.
Joakim Saxon	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:19:00 - [2046] The number of other goons that got trolled by the "character limit" on corporation and alliance names amuse me. Its not 24/25/whatever guys. Everything else still stands though. One rule for all.
Spoon Laissez-Faire	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:24:00 - [2047] Originally by: Colonel Xaven Originally by: Spoon I see alot of Goonswarm/something awful alts.... I hardly expect to see this thread taken seriously.... Bob and friends might dont take it serious. But I think breaking general rules for a small group of players is an issue for the whole playerbase. It in this case has nothing to do with Bob itself. It could have been every other alliance which has developers friends and got other dev favors in the past, if there would be any... The whole point is bias since the only people replying are the ones who would benefit from the proposal, if one that demanded the disbanding of Razor or goonswarm on some technical ground that was minor which this is effectivly poped up and got 2000 votes from mostly corpless alts would you expect it to be taken seriously.... another thing this is is a pr attempt to drag Bob throught the dirt again to gain credability something which the goonswarm has been lossing at a dramitic rate if any of my fellow empire freinds have to say. what ever you say its obbious what is going on here. Anyone with half a brain can see so dont try and lecture to be about right and wrong your wasting the energy in your fingers.
KosmikZA	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:27:00 - [2048] Answer CCP. We're waiting. Maybe a false advertising complaint wouldn't hurt. You can't say its a player run world with this many complaints.
SpeedY G0nZaleZ	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:32:00 - [2049] 1 rule, 1 game, no NEPOTISTIC BULL****.
Morag Tong	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:33:00 - [2050] Originally by: Spoon The whole point is bias since the only people replying are the ones who would benefit from the proposal, if one that demanded the disbanding of Razor or goonswarm on some technical ground that was minor which this is effectivly poped up and got 2000 votes from mostly corpless alts would you expect it to be taken seriously.... another thing this is is a pr attempt to drag Bob throught the dirt again to gain credability something which the goonswarm has been lossing at a dramitic rate if any of my fellow empire freinds have to say. what ever you say its obbious what is going on here. Anyone with half a brain can see so dont try and lecture to be about right and wrong your wasting the energy in your fingers. Keep drinkin' the Kool-Aid man. Erase the names BoBR and Goons from this issue and the point IS obvious. The problem is being clouded by the entities involved. This is wrong, period.

Johanna Johnsen	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:39:00 - [2051] Originally by: Slaveone In another demonstration of developer misconduct CCP renamed Kenzoku to Band of Brothers Reloaded. This has never been done for an alliance, character, or corporation, ever. Please vote up to disband BOBR. I support This
Spoon Laissez-Faire	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:44:00 - [2052] Originally by: Morag Tong Originally by: Spoon The whole point is bias since the only people replying are the ones who would benefit from the proposal, if one that demanded the disbanding of Razor or goonswarm on some technical ground that was minor which this is effectivly poped up and got 2000 votes from mostly corpless alts would you expect it to be taken seriously.... another thing this is is a pr attempt to drag Bob throught the dirt again to gain credability something which the goonswarm has been lossing at a dramitic rate if any of my fellow empire freinds have to say. what ever you say its obbious what is going on here. Anyone with half a brain can see so dont try and lecture to be about right and wrong your wasting the energy in your fingers. Keep drinkin' the Kool-Aid man. Erase the names BoBR and Goons from this issue and the point IS obvious. The problem is being clouded by the entities involved. This is wrong, period. No the issue is minor and pointless. Its over a string of characters, its fueled by childish vendetas and in game aspirations to gain a upper hand.
Seifer Al'Masy Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2009.03.25 17:44:00 - [2053] Originally by: Carson Cache lets see if the CSM has any real power, not holding my breath tho. sorry mate, but i do belive that all this "CSM... Assembly Wall... n' stuff" was created only to keep us entertained with something(and some hope.. but only that). i belive CCP will do the same thing as others, hide(you will not read/hear a word from them.) But, as a wise man once said, Hope is the last to die. - Seifer _____ "Take everything you can, give nothing back."
RaYaa Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:06:00 - [2054] some good ratting systems are cynojammed now due to this :( your face, your ass -- what's the difference?
THEIR NAME	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:07:00 - [2055]
Lups BROWBEAT	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:12:00 - [2056] CEO Beware The Badgers Of Doom!!
Efrim Black Gallente Apellon	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:13:00 - [2057] Originally by: Seifer Al'Masy Originally by: Carson Cache lets see if the CSM has any real power, not holding my breath tho. sorry mate, but i do belive that all this "CSM... Assembly Wall... n' stuff" was created only to keep us entertained with something(and some hope.. but only that). i belive CCP will do the same thing as others, hide(you will not read/hear a word from them.) But, as a wise man once said, Hope is the last to die. - Seifer I do believe you're wrong. Shows a basic misunderstanding of the CSM system, which by it's design takes some time to have an effect. Even if the skill que was the only thing they had ever done, it would validate their existence, but they also provided some serious balancing, UI tweaks, and the Orca. Thats not the point here anyhow. This thread is just another pr attempt by the Goons. BOB did the same thing to them when they had any real power. The two just go back and forth annoying everyone else in the universe. Since the Goons will bump this for another year or so, no harm in condemning the waste of a Slot on the Assembly's main page. You frothing lap-dogs.
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:13:00 - [2058] what do you think would be better - that CCP openly declares it's support for BoB or that it just stays silent and denies everything? What are you gonna do if they get balls enough to declare a favorite alliance? fight them or rage-quit? I'd think it'd be pretty amusing if they came out in the open
Akemi Tarazon	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:19:00 - [2059] I strongly, full-heartedly support this. I've never worked with goonies nor with bob. But the very stickiness between BoB and CCP goes beyond one's capacity of describing it in proper words. It's like I'm unknowingly getting a lemon from a car dealer w/ exactly the same amount of cash his cousin pays for to get a Mercede from backdoor. If I am mad enough to go for being headlined, I'd smash his store w/ the lemon he sold, and shot him in his face. W/ the so much public announcement of YOUR love to YOUR bob, YOU are sharply indicating me that the portion of my life I've waisted is just digitalized as few binary glitches of the YOUR database file. And YOU are saying YOU can play it however YOU want it. Fine. I get it. Like Ghost Training issue and T2 BPO scandal, however, this one will go down a long way for the years to come. YOU will never be free from people armed with these issues ganking YOU when and where most unexpected, and I promise YOU that I will be one of them. Fly safe.
G'ulSera Masters of Noise	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:21:00 - [2060] Originally by: Ephemeron what do you think would be better - that CCP openly declares it's support for BoB or that it just stays silent and denies everything? What are you gonna do if they get balls enough to declare a favorite alliance? fight them or rage-quit? I'd think it'd be pretty amusing if they came out in the open Need a tinfoil? This thread makes me laugh everytime i read it Stop the whining, fight them all you want, and stop annoying people with the same crap for the rest of the year... Big boohoo that they changed they're name, are you scared to fight them now or something? And what do i think would be better? For more raging goon muppets so i lol some more Fight To Survive, Survive To Fight Messing up your mind with the sound of destruction The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty

Jamyl TashMurkon Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:22:00 - [2061] Originally by: Qlanth Originally by: Jamyl TashMurkon ITS JUST A FRICKIN NAME !!!! What you don't understand is Sov mechanics. If they wanted a new name they should have left or disbanded KenZoku and formed a new alliance just like every single other group in this game would have had to. I guess I misunderstood what had happened originally. I guess all the former BoB corps joined another already formed alliance instead of creating a new one, so they had no say over their name when they joined KenZoku. They had a choice: Join KenZoku, or make a new alliance with a new name. They chose KenZoku, this never should have even been considered by CCP. You exploited Game mechs, No ! flame suit on
Jamyl TashMurkon Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:23:00 - [2062] Originally by: Qlanth Originally by: Jamyl TashMurkon ITS JUST A FRICKIN NAME !!!! What you don't understand is Sov mechanics. If they wanted a new name they should have left or disbanded KenZoku and formed a new alliance just like every single other group in this game would have had to. I guess I misunderstood what had happened originally. I guess all the former BoB corps joined another already formed alliance instead of creating a new one, so they had no say over their name when they joined KenZoku. They had a choice: Join KenZoku, or make a new alliance with a new name. They chose KenZoku, this never should have even been considered by CCP. You exploited Game mechs, No ! flame suit on
TheGunslinger42	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:35:00 - [2063] Originally by: Spoon No the issue is minor and pointless. Its over a string of characters, its fueled by childish vendetas and in game aspirations to gain a upper hand. How hard is it for your people to see the point? It's about the fact that they've been given special treatment that allowed them to keep sov when other alliances would have been told to disband if they wanted a new name. Bob jumped into kenzoku to gain/keep a little sov easily and quickly then later asked to get the name changed to something they wanted instead of going about it the normal, legit way and making a new alliance with the name they wanted from the start then gaining sov.
Jejed Aerythis Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:36:00 - [2064] nice ad for eve ccp, before when people ask me about eve I use to answer it was a good game thank to the gameplay etc.. Now f*** up the gameplay I will say to don't try it cause devs aren't fair with all player. gg ccp your game sucks by now
Serj Darek Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:49:00 - [2065] The OP is mistaken that this has never been done before. There are numerous examples that everyone seems to be ignoring in General and CAOD threads, so based on that I disagree. Keep the tears flowing though since CAOD is much cleaner now that the Goons and Goon allies are around a circle "discussing" the issue.
Kheldon Fel	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:55:00 - [2066] Originally by: Serj Darek The OP is mistaken that this has never been done before. There are numerous examples that everyone seems to be ignoring in General and CAOD threads, so based on that I disagree. Keep the tears flowing though since CAOD is much cleaner now that the Goons and Goon allies are around a circle "discussing" the issue. Quote: Serj Darek Black Nova Corp KenZoku lol
CountingCrow The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 18:57:00 - [2067] Originally by: GM Grimmi We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information weÆd collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples. We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies.
Vladic Ka Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:01:00 - [2068] Originally by: Serj Darek The OP is mistaken that this has never been done before. There are numerous examples that everyone seems to be ignoring in General and CAOD threads, so based on that I disagree. Keep the tears flowing though since CAOD is much cleaner now that the Goons and Goon allies are around a circle "discussing" the issue. Nice sig. Ill take it.
Serj Darek Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:01:00 - [2069] Edited by: Serj Darek on 25/03/2009 19:00:53 No more tears :( I am very unhappy, it has been hilarious watching the threadnaughts! Stay tuned, I am sure something else will happen to cause FUD. :)
Twobits PieCake	Posted - 2009.03.25 19:02:00 - [2070] Edited by: Twobits PieCake on 25/03/2009 19:03:11 no CCP cookies to friedns



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