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Glengrant
TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.24 22:54:00 -
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I support the decision.
Should have been done right away after they lost their original alliance.
I wonder how these threads would look if this happened with any other alliance. Would we see the same storm in a teacup if this happened to TCF or Morsus Mihi?
I very much doubt that. Less posts and more people agreeing with the name fix is my guess.
To deny BoB some semblance of their original name - how small-minded is that.
Disbanding and recreating the alliance to achieve that - how is that not stupid.
If some other alliance had a name change denied under similar circumstances I would understand if they are annoyed now and they simply should petition to get their 1 bn back.
The whole thing started with a (by hindsight) stupid defect on how alliances work. Got fixed right afterwards.
I can't see how anybody could argue in good conscience that anybody should loose their alliance that way (without the 24 hour grace period for example that any char gets).
I prefer BoB being named BoB.
If you want to take sov from BoB do it the old-fashioned way by destroying stuff - not by requiring them to disband their alliance to get the name fixed.
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2009.03.25 11:12:00 -
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 Originally by: F'nog
It all comes to the same thing, as we've seen before: player outrage over something really stupid and unneeded.
I agree with most of the words - but I think it's some players outrage about this that really is stupid and unneeded.
I say "some" players because outrage on the forum doesn't tell us much about overall player opinion. Most players never post here - many don't even read the forums regularly. And it is the most outraged players that are most likely to post (self-selectiion is bad for statistics - mkay).
When there's a typo like in Stain Allaince - then sure - fix that too via petition.
It's hard to think of something more needless and stupid than having to fix an alliance name.
And no - fixing a typo in an alliance name is not the same as changing char names.
The only thing that is special about BOBR is that they shouldn't have lost their alliance in the first place. That was a silly hole in alliance mechanics and it was too late to fix that particular damage (Goons - for lulz - already grabbed the name of course :-) ). So the next best thing is to rename the replacement alliance. Fine with me. Least cost way of fixing a stupid problem.
Should a GM in the past have made a different decision about fixing an alliance name than that past decision was wrong - not the current one. Anybody that had to re-create an alliance just to fix a typo in name should get their 1 bn back.
No - I'm not a BOB alt. I'm not affiliated with them or even trade with them AFAIK. Just not small-minded.
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2009.03.25 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: kiez'm Hahz
This game is corrupt.... And I'm not talking about damaged files....
Sad.
Hyperbole and BS.
Get over it and aquire a sense of proportion.
Oh and if you really believe that then you are about to quit - but I don't want your stuff - it's tainted with Hyperbolic Whining - give it to one of those who'll ask for it when you write your emoragequit good-bye message.
Welcome back next year when you calmed down and realized that this ain't the big deal you think it is.
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2009.03.25 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: kiez'm Hahz
Yeah.... Free hand-outs from the dev team isn't a big deal... lol idiot.
Because getting their name changed got them also bns of isk and 100s of capital ships ...
No wait - thinking about it for a moment I realize they got 0 material benefits out of this. They got a few letters changed.
Wow - the sky is falling for sure.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Glengrant
The only thing that is special about BOBR is that they shouldn't have lost their alliance in the first place.
The rules are what are and aren't, not what should and shouldn't.
And petitions have existed from the beginning of EVE to fix stuff that has gone wrong.
Originally by: Glengrant
Should a GM in the past have made a different decision about fixing an alliance name than that past decision was wrong - not the current one.
And it was just coincidence that it was BoB who were the first to benefit from this change of heart?
Please enumerate the list of other alliances that lost their alliances to a similar defect in the mechanics.
Any other alliances people would get so worked up about?
Wait a sec - if the same thing would happened to your alliance - do you want to tell me that you wouldn't have written an agry petition ("WTF - alliance dissolved right away when I need to wait 24 hours to kick out a corp thief?") and asked/demanded to get things fixed as much as still possible?
I would have.
Get things in perspective - a few letters got changed.
Upside - we can all recognize our infamous BoB as BoB.
Downside - err - what exactly?
Given the choice between loosing sov (again) and keeping the Kenny name "BoB" would surely have done the latter.
So the decision does not affect material worth.
It's just a name change. Very helpful for noobs who can recognize BoB as Bob instead of being confused why that cute Kenny alliance is still being called BoB by others.
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