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Guer	Posted - 2009.04.02 19:28:00 - [61] cool to hear people are really jumping into this. Regarding pos guns and defenses, you probably won't need them for much, unless someone came specifically to attack and ransom your pos. Even then that's unlikely considering the logistical nightmare of having it in WH space. I'd advise having a good deal of small and medium turrets with a warp disrupting battery and a stasis webber, but beyond that, just leave most of that stuff offlined to save on fuel. If someone attacks you you'll have plenty of time to turn on your guns.
Kaato Alessi	Posted - 2009.04.02 20:45:00 - [62] I love wormhole systems and fully intend to join a wormhole corp once i get a little more isk but i am really confused about the classes of systems could someone explain that to me?
Murasaki Ryujin	Posted - 2009.04.02 22:44:00 - [63] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1029623
Sebastian Bludd Dead Squirrel Society	Posted - 2009.04.03 01:37:00 - [64] Living in WH space is good for PVP, always fun to pop out in null sec and pester the natives. I have been out in WH space for about a month now, there are a few challenges to living out there like having a good stock pile of supplies and such, and if your not smart about what you do it can be a extremely expensive loss for you and your corp. Only the foolish and crazy should brave it
Mr Matarus Minmatar Red Star Industrial Enterprises Manifest Destiny.	Posted - 2009.04.03 04:46:00 - [65] sebastian, how often do you get high-sec exits?
Miyamoto Uroki Caldari Katsu Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.03 06:51:00 - [66] you don't get high sec exits very often. WH space is not safe, nor is the connection into the more valueable systems (higher class). Connections to low sec empire systems is already a small jackpot and you certainly want to use it. One would have to think a bit around the edge to find a connection to empire systems.
Romus Al'maar	Posted - 2009.04.03 08:07:00 - [67] Edited by: Romus Al''maar on 03/04/2009 08:07:50 It depends on the WH System; our class 1 system is connected to high sec 24/7, as soon as it closes from our travels another pops up to high sec everytime. Also we always have a 2nd WH to more w-space. Mostly only a somewhat higher class like 2 or 3 but we get lucky with 4s once in a while.
Kaato Alessi	Posted - 2009.04.03 11:34:00 - [68] Originally by: Murasaki Ryujin http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1029623 Thanks
Minaruars	Posted - 2009.04.03 15:01:00 - [69] Originally by: Mr Matarus I've been living in a class 3 wh for 2 weeks now. there are often 2 wh in the system at a time. in two weeks I've found 1 high sec wh. that was on the second or third day in. since then all I've found are null sec and about 3 w-space exits. we are talking about 20 or so wh and only 1 high sec. I would advise if you plan to live in w-space take a large contingent of pos fuel. I'm curious if anyone else has seen the same lack of high-sec exits as me or if I'm just really unlucky. We are having the same problem, tons of wormholes but none back to k-space, we don't care if its low sec or 0.0 just give us one back to k-space, working on week 2
Minaruars	Posted - 2009.04.03 15:02:00 - [70] Originally by: Guer cool to hear people are really jumping into this. Regarding pos guns and defenses, you probably won't need them for much, unless someone came specifically to attack and ransom your pos. Even then that's unlikely considering the logistical nightmare of having it in WH space. I'd advise having a good deal of small and medium turrets with a warp disrupting battery and a stasis webber, but beyond that, just leave most of that stuff offlined to save on fuel. If someone attacks you you'll have plenty of time to turn on your guns. LOL thats bad advice, seeing as we have popped two poses and stole one pos that wasn't online.

phalanx III Dead Squirrel Society	Posted - 2009.04.03 15:39:00 - [71] Originally by: Mr Matarus sebastian, how often do you get high-sec exits? We Don't. Every exit we have found leads to 0.0 We are in a Class 4 WH system. However, we have found that WH's found from the outside first (The K162 holes on our end) Tend to lead to low sec or empire in some cases. We have had a Large POS in action for almost 3 weeks. Fueling hasn't been a problem, as every few days or so we find systems near empire or near out posts where we can acquire goods. Our main sourcing of modules have come from those we engage, and the odd parts run, but all in all it's basically make do with what you got or what you can get when the opportunity allows. Yes it is a challenge, but then again it was never meant to be easy, then everyone would do it. There are only about 5 of use fully dedicated to W space at the current moment in our corp. Myself and a mate ran a Radar site just the other day which netted us about 1.5 billion in under an hour. The money is out there, you just need to find it. Nothing beats coming out behind alliance boundaries tho and smashing through 3 or 4 "pets" for tasty loots. Nor the utter confusion of how we got there. AAA and RA have both threatened to take out our POS on separate occasions which we openly welcome them to try. You end up all over the Galaxy living in W-Space, it is almost as tho you are traveling in a much larger ship, and you get to hop out and have a look around each day to see whats new! If you don't like where you are at, you can always close the WH too and spawn a new one.
Mr Matarus Minmatar Red Star Industrial Enterprises Manifest Destiny.	Posted - 2009.04.03 17:10:00 - [72] yeah, I get in and out where I can. I've even used a black ops to jump back and forth to empire. but unless the null sec system is close to empire the black ops is useless (only 4ly jump and almost no cargo space). If I could get a high-sec wh once every month or so that would be perfect. so far my best hope is to find another w-space with a high sec exit in it. But I mostly connect to higher class wh, which makes sense.
Shad Wrack	Posted - 2009.04.03 20:36:00 - [73] This is a very interresting read. My corp is almost set up exactly, in a class 3 system. The interesting thing is, we came in from High Sec, all of our WH's out have been into low sec. However, we are only finding one WH at a time. Do we need to look harder? I'd like to find a WH to another WH that we could raid, but so far no luck. As far as defense, we'll keep the large weapons online, just a little more LO and HW. We have about 10 full time guys in WH, with alot of corpmates coming to visit. We haven't pulled in much isk yet, but we are having a blast.
Gaius Aemilius Wormhole-space Surveying and Exploitation	Posted - 2009.04.03 20:50:00 - [74] Originally by: phalanx III You end up all over the Galaxy living in W-Space, it is almost as tho you are traveling in a much larger ship, and you get to hop out and have a look around each day to see whats new! If you don't like where you are at, you can always close the WH too and spawn a new one. This is pure true, and in my opinion pure win as well. Wessex talks about things like "surfacing" to k-space, and "charting a course" for k-space. We think about "submerging" below the boundary layer, and "diving" into w-space. For me (in RL an ex-Navy vet) it's a very naval paradigm. Very much like a big ship pulling into various ports across the galaxy. Can't say how much we love our Class 4 "ship", most fun any of us have had in EVE in a long time, and some of our folks are quite old by EVE standards, even they are feeling re-invigorated by w-space and founding a colony down here. Wormholes ate my sig. They said it was yummy.
Ticlet Darkwanderer	Posted - 2009.04.04 00:11:00 - [75] Our corp has been living out in a class 3 WH for about 15 days or so we took in a full load of fuel when we went in but every since we have put up this pos mostly grav sites are spawning and we have not had one single WH spawn that takes us back into high sec. Every one we have found leads deep into nullsec or a low sec that was multiple jumps away from closest high sec area. So refueling has been a problem most WHs we have found at one time is 2.
phalanx III Dead Squirrel Society	Posted - 2009.04.04 19:01:00 - [76] The most WH's we have recorded simultaneously is 3, we have found 2 on own own however, third was given to us when someone ventured into our space. We let him leave in his pod as a result. We have been trying to figure out patters to the WH spawning. Seeing if one spawns when the other reaches critical. It gets tricky closing a WH at times and getting stuck deep in 0.0 can prove to be a bit of a challenge (Alts ftw). We have seen WH's spawn as early as when the WH hits stage 3 (Critical on the verge of collapse). The problem is though is it just an occasional time when this occurs or is this us just not scanning hard enough. Fortunately we have about three members in our corp that are brilliant at scanning and on average find a new WH after the last one closes in about 10-15 min tops. There are certain patterns in the sig radius's which make it easier to spot what is the WH. I was planning on bringing my Moros in for extra fun times, but discovered our max mass transfer was limited to 300M m3 limiting us to Orca operations. There are two classes beyond this however that allow caps in. Grav sites I have seen disappear and respawn daily. Encounters respawn a lot slower, I see new sites pop up daily, but we are talking 2 or 3, that are soloable, nothing too grand. The thought of moving int a more challenging "hub" WH system does sound extremely appealing. The dedication to venture down that path however, will be a lot greater. It's somethign that will definitely be discussed in the future amongst our members.
Guer	Posted - 2009.04.04 19:25:00 - [77] Originally by: Minaruars Originally by: Guer cool to hear people are really jumping into this. Regarding pos guns and defenses, you probably won't need them for much, unless someone came specifically to attack and ransom your pos. Even then that's unlikely considering the logistical nightmare of having it in WH space. I'd advise having a good deal of small and medium turrets with a warp disrupting battery and a stasis webber, but beyond that, just leave most of that stuff offlined to save on fuel. If someone attacks you you'll have plenty of time to turn on your guns. LOL thats bad advice, seeing as we have popped two poses and stole one pos that wasn't online. I'll take your word on that. Leaving most of the guns offline is not a bad idea though, since if the whole corp is living there and it gets attacked, someone will be able to turn them on. As for popping and stealing poses, I'm a bit skeptical. Popping two? I guess they had valuable stuff there for you to take, otherwise sounds like a waste of time for you. As for stealing a pos, I'm a bit skeptical. You can only steal it if its unanchored, which most people don't do, and I doubt the OP has to worry about that. If its offline but anchored you still have to shoot it, and again in that situation, that has nothing to do with the advice i offered.
Hakuriu Minmatar Divide by Zero Blue Sun Trust	Posted - 2009.04.05 15:01:00 - [78] Just to add to the stats, our alliance is a dedicated W-Space alliance, currently with 10 poses in 6 systems ranging from Class 2 to Class 5. To chat with other corps and alliances setting up shop in wormhole space, check out the "WSpace Colonists" channel in-game.
Rocky Patel	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:37:00 - [79] Its been almost a month and our crafters have gotten up thier Reverse Engineering and manufacturing skills in the last week. They have started working on the collected wrecked hulls (we had 2) and the stockpile of malfunctioning subsystem artifacts. We got lucky and had both hulls Reverse engineer into T3 Cruiser BPCs, and at least 1 of each subsystem using materials we've harvested. Our first T3 cruiser is rolling off the assembly line today and will be for sale soon. By now all of our POS guns have full ammo bays (15k each WOOT) but they remain untested. I was hoping at some point I'd log in to find some wrecks to loot but alas, not yet. We've had lots of fun and with finding us such a challenege I'm sure we'd be able to ride out a War Declaration here. We surley see mostly grav sites spawn, but we are getting about 1 mag or radar site a day. Maybe 2 out of every 3 days. We have been known to search out bordering holes when we are up for a fight. Is this more isk then running Tier 4 missions all day/every day I can't answer cause that is boring. This is anything but. I continue to recommend this lifestyle to the small industrial corp.
Minaruars	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:33:00 - [80] Edited by: Minaruars on 16/04/2009 17:33:47 Originally by: Guer Originally by: Minaruars Originally by: Guer cool to hear people are really jumping into this. Regarding pos guns and defenses, you probably won't need them for much, unless someone came specifically to attack and ransom your pos. Even then that's unlikely considering the logistical nightmare of having it in WH space. I'd advise having a good deal of small and medium turrets with a warp disrupting battery and a stasis webber, but beyond that, just leave most of that stuff offlined to save on fuel. If someone attacks you you'll have plenty of time to turn on your guns. LOL thats bad advice, seeing as we have popped two poses and stole one pos that wasn't online. I'll take your word on that. Leaving most of the guns offline is not a bad idea though, since if the whole corp is living there and it gets attacked, someone will be able to turn them on. As for popping and stealing poses, I'm a bit skeptical. Popping two? I guess they had valuable stuff there for you to take, otherwise sounds like a waste of time for you. As for stealing a pos, I'm a bit skeptical. You can only steal it if its unanchored, which most people don't do, and I doubt the OP has to worry about that. If its offline but anchored you still have to shoot it, and again in that situation, that has nothing to do with the advice i offered. I urge all skeptics to not put guns on your pos, and leave it unanchored, We will find your WH space and take your pos or pop it.. well maybe pop it. We have run into alot of POSes in WH space, but we where only able to get enough ships in to pop two of them on separate occasions. Jumped in one WH from highsec, and popped 3 battleships and then warped to their POS, but sadly the WH was not big enough to get enough battleships with DPS to pop it, it was a medium pos.

Rachel Feler	Posted - 2009.04.17 01:12:00 - [81] I set up a POS in a WH. One day, I came on, and it was in reinforced... I came back from work, and there were people there unanchoring and stealing my stuff. Dont set up a POS unless you're ready to lose it all. The limitations of access work both ways- it may keep the enemies from getting a large force in, but it also keeps you from getting help.


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