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Amy Wang
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Posted - 2009.03.25 11:11:00 -
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- separate fuel bay of considerable size
- ability to bypass cyno jammers
that be all, thanks
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Valadeya uthanaras
Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:23:00 -
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totally signed/
as they are at the moment , they are more like shiny light show maker than anything
when it come to fuel bay , about 2000 m3 restricted to liquid ozone and the 4 racial isotope
and the ability to bypass cyno-jammer should have been in the design :)
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Soldur
Helljumpers
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:29:00 -
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lol what ship....dont know if ive ever seen more than 3 ever
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Noa Fuyu
Amarr
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:36:00 -
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Yeah this needs to be done
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Tekki Sandan
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:59:00 -
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yeah, personally i think it needs a range change,
and either give it a big fuel bay, that is only useable for fuel of that ship range and LO,
OR
reduce the ammout of fuel CONSIDERABLY and then it only needs a small fuel bay. Also i think jump range should be around 4-5 LY, making it able to bridge between some of the bigger systems, as atm i seem to come accross alot of systems that i can bridge between 
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Lionel Redstar
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Posted - 2009.03.25 14:41:00 -
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This !
P.S. Even so I don't have much hope.
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musgrattio
H A V O C
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 14:56:00 -
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Yes, please CCP :( If you have the time to nerf Falcons into oblivion, you have time to give us a fuel bay.
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Enthral
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:06:00 -
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They looked really nice on paper.
I think the biggest problem with them, even bigger than the two issues mentioned here, is that they are so darn expensive. Who the heck wants to bring a gang of these "behind enemy lines?" For their price, instead of bringing two Black Ops, you can bring five fully fitted Ravens and a dozen fully T2 fitted support ships.
Heck, for two Black Ops, you could bring a fully fitted carrier and a really nice support gang. Or you could have 12 HAC's, which would be much more deadly.
-Enthral
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CCP Chronotis
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Posted - 2009.03.25 16:15:00 -
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We have not forgotten them but we might not get all the changes we wanted in 
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2009.03.25 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: TZeer on 25/03/2009 16:37:27
 Originally by: CCP Chronotis
We have not forgotten them but we might not get all the changes we wanted in
Wich leads me to the following question?
Are you taking away the ECM part from the widow?
As you said this in the ECM thread:
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We have been looking at all the ECM ships (Griffin, Kitsune, Blackbird, Falcon, Rook and Scorpion).
You did not mention the Widow...
Answer given in original thread:
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Forgot to mention it would be getting an increase in ECM strength bonus same as the scorpion. Will make a seperate post on black ops themselves.
I will update the original post with these changes in a minute. There is no ETA on when these changes will be on sisi for testing as we are currently testing for Apocrypha 1.02. Some time after that is deployed to TQ, then we will move sisi to a version where you can start to playtest these changes and we will continue to monitor feedback and make more tweaks as needed.
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Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 16:29:00 -
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maybe for 500 mil, you get to keep the small ecm part of the widow ?
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Valadeya uthanaras
Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Valadeya uthanaras on 25/03/2009 17:19:04
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
We have not forgotten them but we might not get all the changes we wanted in
if you mean no fuel bay but covert cyno in jammed system , I dont mind having a hauler to come with me for the fuel .....
If you only mean a fuel bay , well I wont complain cause it definatly need one ^^
Edit: oh and thx for the fast answer :), I was really scared the black ops would get no fixes after Apocrypha and that everything was down the drain
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Cookie Snatcher
Gallente
Enterprise Estonia
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:56:00 -
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oh yeah, dont hurry. We got plenty of time. Black ops have been in game for only 1 year?
In that time i have seen like 1 black ops being used in actual pvp.
If that doesnt define broken then i dont know what does.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.03.25 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Nova Fox on 25/03/2009 18:09:23
Fuel bays are being considered for all jump capable ships and they're still playing around with the other 22 odd some jump capable ships in the game. Which is probably causing delay in blacks ops boost.
Cyno opening in jammed systems may be another delaying as it requires some rework to allow them how much recoding not sure.
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Lewyrus
Jugis Modo Utopia
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.03.25 18:55:00 -
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How about a jump range and scan resolution boost, too?
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Mike C
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.25 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Mike C on 25/03/2009 19:05:37
I seem to remember CCP stating that all jumpdrive equipped ships will be getting a fuel bay...
Maybe it was a dream, meh.
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Oh and fix the goddamn materials cost for BO/Marauders, I traded my ****ing widow for a chimera!
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Bobbeh
Minmatar
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 22:21:00 -
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Black Ops Love is needed... sooo very badly if anything get rid of the velocity bonus but allow them to warp cloak....
They Really need a practical spot in fleets and it would most likely be a cloaked ganker who uncloaks in groups volleys cloaks up.... I only say this cause their tank isnt stunning so an outright battle may not be viable
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August Guns
Minmatar
Infinite ISK.
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Posted - 2009.03.26 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
We have not forgotten them but we might not get all the changes we wanted in
Seems that balancing is two steps forward, 1.9 steps backwards. Why is it so hard to take things one step at a time?
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.03.26 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
We have not forgotten them but we might not get all the changes we wanted in
in... to what?
what's the rush?
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Sobic
Valklear Guard
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.26 04:08:00 -
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The changes to blackops are part of a much larger overall plan for jump capable ships.
It's allll part of the plan. 
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Bobbeh
Minmatar
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.26 19:51:00 -
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So Lets get a Love list going on what we wanna see changes modified or added.
So far
Op said
Fuel bay or Reduced fuel use
What else we want?
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Marius Nervosu
Caldari
The Fallen Angels Unit
Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.03.26 21:14:00 -
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It's a 500 million ship...so make them do something for that :)
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Ahz
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Posted - 2009.03.26 23:21:00 -
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- Range x3
- Black Ops Jump support for any frigate class hull
That is all.
Jumping into cyno-jammed systems is over-powered. There are some alliances that would float entire fleets of these things. Cyno-jammers would become worthless.
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Bobbeh
Minmatar
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.28 06:39:00 -
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Bum,p up for love more ideas needed
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SniperWo1f
Omega Enterprises
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.03.28 09:16:00 -
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black ops are important but ccp is more focused on creating a new ship that costs hundreds of millions with no clear role and a future of long aimless discussions before implementing lackluster changes to create a whole series of new issues to replace the old ones .
...ccp
"In Rust We Trust"
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Khandara Seraphim
StarHunt
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ahz
- Range x3
- Black Ops Jump support for any frigate class hull
That is all.
Jumping into cyno-jammed systems is over-powered. There are some alliances that would float entire fleets of these things. Cyno-jammers would become worthless.
I don't see the problem with that. It takes hundreds of battleships to rush a cynojammer and if the defenders are even slightly aware of the attack they'll sustain heavy losses.
With T1 battleships this is an acceptable risk but each individual blackops costs a ton. If an alliance is willing to spend billions on an attack, then it's fine by me.
Covert cynos should always have had the ability to work in jammed systems, as their entire purpose was to covertly deploy forces behind enemy lines.
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Polinus
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ahz
- Range x3
- Black Ops Jump support for any frigate class hull
That is all.
Jumping into cyno-jammed systems is over-powered. There are some alliances that would float entire fleets of these things. Cyno-jammers would become worthless.
its ntot overpowered. Would change very little regarding the take over of systems, mostly would allow just some surprise roaming .
If the enemy does not expect you to come attack his jammer you will likely find his gate clear to enter the system most of time. If he expects you he will be ready to take on you.. at gate or where your fleet jumps in.
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