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Julia Steaz	Posted - 2009.03.26 18:41:00 - [1] I think this is unfair for American players. By the time I get off work, there is no Veldspar left for me. I think we should have asteroid spawn several points throughout the day instead of all at once. And exactly what is the story line behind asteroid belts magically appearing where they did not use to be? And why are asteroids always so nicely arranged in arc fashion - can't asteroid belts also be clouds of rock?
Par'Gellen Gallente Tres Hombres Psychiatric Hospital	Posted - 2009.03.26 18:43:00 - [2] Edited by: Par''Gellen on 26/03/2009 18:43:11 Last time a dev remarked about it (years ago) he basically said they were too lazy to be arsed with decoupling it from downtime and he didn't really care enough to think about it any further. Ticked off quite a few people. I'll see if I can dig up that linky. --- To err is human. But it shouldn't be the company motto...
Usagi Toshiro Amarr Oklahoma Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.26 18:48:00 - [3] Originally by: Julia Steaz I think this is unfair for American players. By the time I get off work, there is no Veldspar left for me. I think we should have asteroid spawn several points throughout the day instead of all at once. And exactly what is the story line behind asteroid belts magically appearing where they did not use to be? And why are asteroids always so nicely arranged in arc fashion - can't asteroid belts also be clouds of rock? We must pray to the God of Veldspar, the Mighty Chribba, for him to ensure a steady flow of Veld. We must make a journey to the Veldnought and offer sacrifice.
Julia Steaz	Posted - 2009.03.26 18:54:00 - [4] lol
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.03.26 18:55:00 - [5] You're doing it wrong caldari scum. (As in get out of the most busy region in eve and look around.) Stop, hammer time.
Leaving Eve Boo Hoo Federation	Posted - 2009.03.26 18:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Julia Steaz I think this is unfair for American players. By the time I get off work, there is no Veldspar left for me. I think we should have asteroid spawn several points throughout the day instead of all at once. I'm in the UK and DT is in the middle of my working day. I fully support Cat4CSM.
Ilove Ubaby	Posted - 2009.03.26 18:56:00 - [7] IIRC it's the Veldatar now.
Travgar Gallente Rule of Five The Junta	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:00:00 - [8] A shot in the dark here, but I'm guess gravity from the sun would cause large belts to take a shape. But with the small belts you see in-game, you would imagine they would be more "clumpy." Makes for a prettier mining op, though. Is the problem with ore just in more crowded systems? I'm still pretty new, but it seems like I can always find ore. Originally by: Julia Steaz I think this is unfair for American players. By the time I get off work, there is no Veldspar left for me. I think we should have asteroid spawn several points throughout the day instead of all at once. And exactly what is the story line behind asteroid belts magically appearing where they did not use to be? And why are asteroids always so nicely arranged in arc fashion - can't asteroid belts also be clouds of rock?
Julia Steaz	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:05:00 - [9] When I get off work, most belts in empire are stripped. I look for some veldspar and I'll be lucky to find a nugget.
Gieron Middleton and Mercer LLP Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Julia Steaz And why are asteroids always so nicely arranged in arc fashion - can't asteroid belts also be clouds of rock? That's actually the usual formation in 0.0. Though I have seen non-arced belts in high sec as well.
Casimer Kain Gallente KnightRiders	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:23:00 - [11] Edited by: Casimer Kain on 26/03/2009 19:24:01 What? I'm on EST, and I find plenty to mine from 5 to 12. Only time I had issues was when I stuck to noob central and everyone would hit the same belts at the same times Get up, move around, go explore. You've got a spaceship fercryinoutloud. You're saying that of all the systems out there, you cant find anything to mine? I'll agree on the arrangement of the field though. It's just too easy to plunk down on most systems and just afkmine all evening. Lower sec's much better/more of a challenge
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:24:00 - [12] Find a crappy agent in a station with a 50% refinery in a system near the good mineral prices and use the skill queue to run off some basic mission runner skills. Now you can mine all the lovely ore in the missions and as a bonus get improved standing so you can reduce and eventually remove any refinery tax. In less time than it took most players to max out thier hulk skills they can get in a solid mission raven and then the iskies really start to flow. And it gets even better. If you have a group of miners then one can run missions to find the really juicy ore filled ones and your miners can stay in the old mission space and mine away. Yes that is correct. Mission enviroments no longer despawn when you turn in a mission as long as there is a player in the specific mission room you want to keep around and exploit. Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman
shoot me	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:29:00 - [13] Edited by: shoot me on 26/03/2009 19:29:30 I think they should increase the number of gravimetric sites and move away from this idea of fixed belts with rocks that grow over downtime. Anyway, a good solution at the moment is mining mission sites. Many of them have huge numbers of roid's that can be mined.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:31:00 - [14] There's no asteroids. It's all a lie. Nothing to see. Move on. Veldspar. Belongs. Are. To. Me. Secure 3rd party service

Ticarus Hellbrandt	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:34:00 - [15] Plenty of veldspar in 0.0, be adventurous
Ratklif	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:46:00 - [16] I do agree it is hard to find them sometimes. I live on the west coast of Canada and have to get up at 3 in the morning if I want to mine in hi sec or its gone. But I've went and found a couple fairly quiet systems with desent roids so you just have to take some time and search out so good quiet systems. Or set a POS up in WH space like I did and mine when you want. All the good low sec roids can be in a WH. Just need to pay atention for anyone entering the WH and there are nice sleeper rats to kill in WH belts.
Sjobba	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:52:00 - [17] Originally by: Julia Steaz I think this is unfair for American players. By the time I get off work, there is no Veldspar left for me. I think we should have asteroid spawn several points throughout the day instead of all at once. 1) Get the Caldari frig with the + scan strength. (I forget the name) 2) Scan down a mission runner. 3) See if there are roids in his deadspace pocket. (If not, go back to #2) 4) ??? 5) Profit! Originally by: Julia Steaz And exactly what is the story line behind asteroid belts magically appearing where they did not use to be? They do not magically appear. You see, astroids are actually sentient beings, who can choose to grow at will. The one hour daily curfew imposed on all capsuleers gives them a false sense of security, which triggers them to grow. (I said sentient, not intelligent) Originally by: Julia Steaz And why are asteroids always so nicely arranged in arc fashion - can't asteroid belts also be clouds of rock? Although feeling a false sense of security, the asteroids recognize that there may still be threats out there. The arc formation is a defensive strategy they align themselves in to defend against future threats. (Again... sentient, not intelligent )
Julia Steaz	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:52:00 - [18] Yeah, I could run missions, or ... We can change the spawn times so that the Europeans stop taking all the f***ing veldspar. Option one requires less change on my part.
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:53:00 - [19] Originally by: Julia Steaz Yeah, I could run missions, or ... We can change the spawn times so that the Europeans stop taking all the f***ing veldspar. Option one requires less change on my part. Again, there are regions of space, that the euro timezone don't control. Move out of caldari space and look around, plenty of veld to be had. Stop, hammer time.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:02:00 - [20] If the static belts would be changed to exploration sites, it would be possible to have the sites spawn spread out during the day instead of all of them at the same time. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Julia Steaz	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:05:00 - [21] Edited by: Julia Steaz on 26/03/2009 20:05:04 Originally by: Megan Maynard Again, there are regions of space, that the euro timezone don't control. Move out of caldari space and look around, plenty of veld to be had. You mean there's regions of empire space where asteroids spawn a couple hours after downtime?
Terail Zoqial Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:07:00 - [22] Go to pew pew agent, get mission, kill rats, mine ore. People still mine belts?
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:09:00 - [23] Originally by: Julia Steaz Originally by: Megan Maynard Originally by: Julia Steaz Yeah, I could run missions, or ... We can change the spawn times so that the Europeans stop taking all the f***ing veldspar. Option one requires less change on my part. Again, there are regions of space, that the euro timezone don't control. Move out of caldari space and look around, plenty of veld to be had. You mean there's regions of empire space where asteroids spawn a couple hours after downtime? There are regions of space that do not have as many miners or pilots. Exploit the hell out of them. The minny regions are full of ore for a couple reasons: 1. not as popular a race as others, less people. 2. Piracy is rampant, you will get harassed if you jet can mine. Stay away from hub systems (all of caldari space for the most part) and you will find lots and lots of ore. I don't think eve is quite big enough yet for this problem to be universal. There are a LOT of belts. Stop, hammer time.
Julia Steaz	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:13:00 - [24] I stepped into a 0.4 system yesterday and got podded within the first stargate. You're suggesting a look for veldspar in those systems?
Robin Plunder	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:18:00 - [25] Even in Caldari space, I can find Veldspar. I play 14 hours after downtime on weekdays, which means the DENSE Veldspar has been cherrypicked out of the systems. Heck, I even find Veldspar in systems that are spitting distance from Jita.
Liz Laser School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:22:00 - [26] Originally by: Julia Steaz I stepped into a 0.4 system yesterday and got podded within the first stargate. You're suggesting a look for veldspar in those systems? No, the only reason to mine in low-sec is as bait so that your nearby cloaked mates can get some easy kills. There is lots of Veldspar in High sec, certainly as late as 8 p.m. Pacific on weekdays. Probably later, but I'm usually done mining by 8.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Julia Steaz Yeah, I could run missions, or ... We can change the spawn times so that the Europeans stop taking all the f**ing veldspar. Option one requires less change on my part. Eh? I think you need to train Geography to lvl II, unless you somehow meant to write "East Asians and Australians" but made a thinko and typed Europeans instead. DT is in the middle of the European working day, so those it by the time they get home, hours have passed since the asteroids were re-seeded. You might also want to look outside the starter systems, since there are craptons of asteroids all over the place where I live (and I'm a European who resides in the middle of a mission hub). ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki*
Caelum Mortuos Gallente Zero G Research and Development	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:28:00 - [28] Originally by: Julia Steaz Yeah, I could run missions, or ... We can change the spawn times so that the Europeans stop taking all the f***ing veldspar. Option one requires less change on my part. Ok so you don't want to put in any effort... stop complaining. And for your info the respawns aren't awe inspiring, we don't get huge belts filled with 150k veldspar rocks straight after DT Anyways, as already mentioned, get out of the Forge and look around, look at your starmap, if you hunt there is still plenty of large belts left. If you're lazy, feel free to continue whining
Myz Toyou Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:32:00 - [29] Please help us mine all the moon sized Veld roids in Nennamaila ! Just x up in local and there will be plenty of helping hands that will haul your Veld of epic porportions in guarded convoys back to station. Join "Nennamaila safe mining" ingame channel. Fly safe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [gold]Your signature image exceeds the maximum allo
Louis deGuerre Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2009.03.26 23:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Julia Steaz Yeah, I could run missions, or ... We can change the spawn times so that the Europeans stop taking all the f***ing veldspar. Option one requires less change on my part. Actually it's our Russian Overlords (all hail). They are in the right timezone. When I am ready to play EVE after work it's already +8 after downtime. Finding a quiet system is best. I found a great one with lots of rocks all the time, but of course I won't say where
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.26 23:54:00 - [31] Hardcore gamers live by the EVE clock
Irida Mershkov Gallente Shadowsun Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.26 23:57:00 - [32] There are lots of systems virtually untouched, just they're not next to the hubs, try them, there are quite a few in Gallente space.
Undeniable Existence Questionable Practices	Posted - 2009.03.27 00:24:00 - [33] mine in a less populated system?
Myz Toyou Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2009.03.27 10:46:00 - [34] Originally by: Myz Toyou Please help us mine all the moon sized Veld roids in Nennamaila ! Just x up in local and there will be plenty of helping hands that will haul your Veld of epic porportions in guarded convoys back to station. Join "Nennamaila safe mining" ingame channel. Fly safe Bump for safe mining in Nennamaila \o/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [gold]Your signature image exceeds the maximum allo
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:29:00 - [35] Ha ha! Americans think they have it bad now? Just wait until daylight savings finishes in 9 days time. All the belts in empire will be stripped within two hours of downtime once the Australian hordes get two hours of EVE in prime time instead of one
Maglorre	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:42:00 - [36] Seriously, as others have said, if you are still mining in the standard belts you ARE doing it wrong. There are huge amounts of ore in the following places... Cosmic anomalies, very easy to find. Look for one called Guristas Burrow, been finding those all over Caldari high sec and it yields about 13M Trit Gravimetric exploration sites. Bit harder to find and quite often full of Omber (meh, I remember when Omber was at least double the value of Veldspar) Missions Options 1 and 3 take almost no effort. If you can't be arsed to do that then don't expect to come whining on here and get any sympathy.
Botty Spanka	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:53:00 - [37] Edited by: Botty Spanka on 27/03/2009 12:52:56 Solution: put downtime smack bang in the middle of a US TZ prime time. Suits me and half of the rest of the world very nicely. http://www.ezy-english.com/
Myz Toyou Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:56:00 - [38] Originally by: Maglorre Seriously, as others have said, if you are still mining in the standard belts you ARE doing it wrong. There are huge amounts of ore in the following places... mine in Nennamaila mine in Nennamaila mine in Nennamaila Options 1, 2 and 3 take almost no effort. If you can't be arsed to do that then don't expect to come whining on here and get any sympathy. fixed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [gold]Your signature image exceeds the maximum allo
Tierie Tears of Redemption	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:20:00 - [39] Edited by: Tierie on 27/03/2009 13:24:42 Originally by: Gieron Originally by: Julia Steaz And why are asteroids always so nicely arranged in arc fashion - can't asteroid belts also be clouds of rock? That's actually the usual formation in 0.0. Though I have seen non-arced belts in high sec as well. I've seen more random-spawned belts than arc belts in 0.0. When I find a small arced belt I grin and squeal in glee. I can hover in the middle and mine EVERYTHING /cackle. PS: For empire and in Caldari space, Hayuken (I believe the system is called, possibly/probably wrong) has a ton of belts. Gogo --- Table, you have four legs. Four legs like a dog. But you are not a dog! Cunning table.
Haruka Watanabe	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:39:00 - [40] It would be nice if gravimetric sites had more than just a bunch of stupid omber. Seed more veldspar or at least scordite sites, plz.
Tierie Tears of Redemption	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:41:00 - [41] Come to 0.0! Found various Bistot sites lately<3 --- Table, you have four legs. Four legs like a dog. But you are not a dog! Cunning table.
Rothgar Detris Association of Interstellar Miners	Posted - 2009.03.28 07:17:00 - [42] Julia.. the problem isn't time, it's place. Got to any other empire/region out of Caldari empire, and you will not have any problem finding nice rich 'roid belts that you can happi;y mine on for hours unditirbed (except for belt rats). Heck, I just moved to a new region a couple of weeks ago.. and the difference is HUGE. A lot fewer pirates and players, a lot more rock that you can mine to your hearts (and wallet's) content. Not to far from me is a 0.7 system wioth over 50 (yes, FIFTY!) belts. Even with a team of Hulks and Orca's, You probably couldn't mine it all in a day. So, move out, look around, and mine on!
Xin Kkalta	Posted - 2009.04.16 08:24:00 - [43] Personally, I am getting sick of spending the entire time that I have to play Eve, travelling from system to system trying to find minable fields. I have played this game since beta back in 2004, and watched the community grow and grow to the size it is today, whilst the available ore has not. Additionally, the game is full of gold farmers, exploiting the game by running multiple accounts at once using macros. CCP really need to rethink a few things about this game now. Since Eve came into fruition, they have had a generally safe and comfortable time, due to the lack of rival games in the same setting, sure theres been a few, but they have been pretty poor in comparison to Eve so far. Now, 2009 see's the release of at least three rival MMO's, all of which are looking pretty good so far, lots of depth and thought in them ect. Whilst I dont relish the idea of starting again with a new Space MMO, I hate even more having to waste my playing time searching around for somewhere that I can mine, and if CCP are not going to do anything about this problem then I am faced with the choice of... A- Spending a lot of time training additional skills to take my character in a completely different direction away from mining, like for instance PVP. B- Trying out the free trials on the said upcoming releases and picking the most suitable one and paying them a monthly fee instead of CCP. At this stage I certainly am not saying any of the upcoming games will be better than Eve, only trying them out will show that. But it is wakey wakey time for CCP because the slumber is well and truly over, there are a few new sheriffs in town, all wanting to prove themselves and if CCP are not careful, New Eden will need to be renamed to Dead Space.
Reven Cordelle Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.16 08:55:00 - [44] Move out of Todaki. Hell hath no fury like an army of Bantams and AFK Badgers. There are plenty of untouched systems on the Empire Fringe. I pretty much have a station to myself in a 0.9 sec system, At most I've only ever seen 5 others in this station. As a result theres a round the clock supply of Dense/Conc Veld in the system belts and in the neighbouring systems which are also quiet. Open your map, find a quiet region - move to it. Simple as.
Spurty Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.04.16 10:59:00 - [45] Rancer has all the best belts Originally by: Butter Dog I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2009.04.16 12:28:00 - [46] These places have heaps of untouched Veldspar: Mordus Folly, Infiltrated Outposts, Break Their Will. Go, find these places and you'll be happy! Remember, deadspaces hang around after hand-in until the last person has left them. Even better, if the mission-running side of your corp has a bunch of people farming a number of missions each day, the belt will be around for a week.
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2009.04.16 12:35:00 - [47] Poasting in a "Dillusional Yank who thinks the world rotates around America" thread.
Siri Blue Gallente Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.04.16 12:47:00 - [48] What happened to the idea to replace the current "belts" with a REAL belt spanning the whole star system, containing lots of fun stuff, including priate bases, ancient relics, valuable ore deep within the belt and lots of other fancy stuff - oh and the need to use your ship scanners to find anything??!?!??!??!??! People for Stuff Raffle - No ISK needed
Trox Aeze MILLITECH	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:08:00 - [49] You need to quit your day job.
Aerik Erwi Caldari ErwiCorp	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:26:00 - [50] American player, and no complaints about downtime or lack of rocks to bust. Like so many before have said, move away from the high pop systems. I'm currently mining in four systems within three jumps of one of my corp offices. Usually not many of us there, and if there is no or little ore in one system, I can easily find a few belts untouched in the other systems I have mapped out. Worst case scenario, I undock my Ferox and run a couple missions until I find some ore, or scan down a site. Don't give the Euros onther reason to call us all fat, lazy Americans please. Originally by: Ashen Angel There is no overkill in EVE. There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload"
deathdude316b	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:27:00 - [51] I mine in a system that is only 5 jumps from Jita.... there is lots of veldspar and scordite left over even an hour before reset. You just have to look around.

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