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Burn Jita
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:13:00 -
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Burn all the things. |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:41:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote: -snip-WTF are you on about? Griefing is fine but griefing isn't?
Most gankers go after people who don't play the game. -snip- . I am not against griefing. Nor am I against taking out AFK macroers/botters. I am against the fact that ganking has insufficient risk to the perpetrator, yet can provide good rewards. My only real argument is that ganking in Concord protected space should have real risk. The sec hit is easily worked off, and ship losses are trivial. Good reward + virtually no risk = so many players argue against this, except when it comes to ganking ... does not fit the EvE philosophy.
Like I said, flame war stuff. The counter argument is that miners have all profit and no risks, which I cannot contest, except that miners don't generally blow up other players and thus cause direct losses. |
Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:45:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:Just saying - its pase already and just not creative. Yawn @hulkageddon/BurnJita
Death MUST have meaning!
If the suicide has no meaning, we should just remove Concord, since it's useless anyway. |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:47:00 -
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It gives meaning and enjoyment to the ganker and his community. It gives stress and adrennalin to the reciever and the experience of death and loss :P thats plenty of reason |
Burn Jita
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Posted - 2012.05.01 18:10:00 -
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The only time death doesn't have meaning is when the individual fails to learn the fundamental lesson on how to avoid it the next time.
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.01 18:14:00 -
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Anyone can kill you in Eve if you're undocked, uncloaked and they spend enough resources on it. The trick is to make it too difficult for people to bother doing it. |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2012.05.01 18:16:00 -
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"Destroying the Economy" is a bit grandeous ... but there in lies some of the joy ... the tongue in cheek grandiosity (for people who take their posturing seriously, I feel sorry for your lack of humor.. its a game like WWF wrestling... Hulk Hulgans plays a character)
The most that could happen would be to create a little turmoil in the economy and change the economy.
Even if ships cost 3 times as much or 10 times as much even, you'd just have changed the economy, not destroyed it. Its not like players will be out of work without food for their families or roofs over their head.. there are stations and missions and all sort of other things that they'd make some isk doing under a different difficulty level imposed by piracy. |
Armoured C
PLAYBOYS
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Posted - 2012.05.01 18:18:00 -
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dont see why all the hulk pilot just switch out for covertors for the week while hulkageddon is on ???
you thought this of would of made the most sence |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2012.05.01 18:36:00 -
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Couldn't you conceive of a game where Developers chose not to have a "high sec" ?
It is all arbitrary game design choice how much NPC and mechanics protection they feel like putting in place in different areas of their virtual environment.
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Is it lame that there isn't a place where ships are safe 100% of the time ? Is it lame that you need to think about how you play to make sure that you profit enough from sucessful trade runs to pay for occasional losses ?
Was it lame when 19th century whaling fleets lost a fair percentage of their ships at sea but more than paid for the losses with the sucessful ones ?
Is it the fact that another player is at the other end of the risk that bothers you ? (why does that bother you compared to losing to an NPC or pefect storm etc... ... )
As for the Role Play.. there are these things called pods and clones that prevent too much lasting damage.
The Concord issues ? What state has universal protection of its citizens from robery and so forth. Given the medical clones you have it's hardly murder.. just a property crime.
Concord has managed to ban weapons of mass destruction Capitals, and block cyno's in high sec but they just don't seem to have the resources to immediately and intantaneously resppond to anyth threat. They've gotten it down to 10 seconds though.
Somehow they can't seem to stop criminal pods from moving around.... they must have gotten suckered into signign some Geneva convention making government shooting or detaining pods a crime against humanity. |
Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:18:00 -
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Dang - this thread is still on the front page!!!!
Back in the days this would have been pushed to page 4 in less than 2 hours with much more interesting threads and ideas replacing it.
THIRTY PERCENT of the front page is related to suicide ganking... HOW DIVERSE!
I stand by my original comment |
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Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:44:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:Death MUST have meaning! Tell that to the African AIDS orphans who are dying while you play video games.
There deaths have meaning. It means more air to breath and more food to eat.
Less people, less compitition for food and what not. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:51:00 -
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While I don't suicide gank myself I have heard that it can be fun. Whether it's killing something ridiculously expensive or watching the internet drama unfold as the victim cries people seem to have fun doing it.
If any sane person can find shooting rocks entertaining I'm sure even more people could find playing terrorist equally amusing. |
Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
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Posted - 2012.05.02 04:16:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:Dang - this thread is still on the front page!!!!
Back in the days this would have been pushed to page 4 in less than 2 hours with much more interesting threads and ideas replacing it.
THIRTY PERCENT of the front page is related to suicide ganking... HOW DIVERSE!
I stand by my original comment
Claiming you were trolling when you weren't is passe and not very creative |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.02 05:58:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:Dang - this thread is still on the front page!!!!
Back in the days this would have been pushed to page 4 in less than 2 hours with much more interesting threads and ideas replacing it.
THIRTY PERCENT of the front page is related to suicide ganking... HOW DIVERSE!
I stand by my original comment Claiming you were trolling when you weren't is passe and not very creative Luv2SuicideGank <3
SuicideGankErryday <3
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:46:00 -
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Polly Oxford wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:Just saying - its pase already and just not creative. Yawn @hulkageddon/BurnJita
Death MUST have meaning! If the suicide has no meaning, we should just remove Concord, since it's useless anyway.
I did not believe that the Goons were stupid until I saw this... How you extrapolated that line of thought is beyond me. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:47:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:Just saying - its pase already and just not creative. Yawn @hulkageddon/BurnJita
Death MUST have meaning!
so passe already that you posted about it in GD
just sayin
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.11 17:50:00 -
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Bleating is pass+¬,mmkay? |
Herold Oldtimer
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.11 17:50:00 -
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If we didn't have suicide ganks, then no one would buy new hulks. So in essence gankers prevent the market from going stale. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.11 17:52:00 -
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Herold Oldtimer wrote:If we didn't have suicide ganks, then no one would buy new hulks. So in essence gankers prevent the market from going stale. This is so true. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Savage Angel
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.11 18:02:00 -
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Darth,
Your pic always reminds me of Lloyd Bridges floating around the control tower saying "I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue". |
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Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.11 18:03:00 -
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Savage Angel wrote:Darth,
Your pic always reminds me of Lloyd Bridges floating around the control tower saying "I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue". I laughed out loud. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.11 18:10:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Mining is passe and not very creative
Whine threads are passe and not very creative This reply is pase and not very creative. Repeating someone else's jab is passe and not very creative 1) No one was whining. I'm not slamming my fists saying CCP should do something to change it. It's EVE, so be it, as you can see I have never been ganked, so how the hell can I have tears for it. I'm just observing that something has passed it prime and it makes me YAWN. It's not news-worthy. 2) I wasn't repeating YOUR jab... I was repeating mine.
It's interesting, for every thread started by the Goons bragging about it I see a dozen started by people complaining about it.
So.... if it's passe and you don't want to hear about it, tell folks to quit complaining. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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