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Therran Promitz	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:07:00 - [1] The Navy Raven seems good, although a lot of people don't like missleboats.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:12:00 - [2] [Drake, Buffer HAM!] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Salvager I /OFFLINE Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 __________________________________ Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
Peckles Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:14:00 - [3] The onyx is a pretty decent solo boat. The drake isn't bad as long as you aren't a noob. Navy Ravens are good ships, imho though, the price doesn't justify the gain over a normal raven.
CHAOS100 Widowmakers	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:27:00 - [4] don't fly the falcon, its a terrible ship. A good ship is a something like a caracal or DPS fitted vulture. --------------
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:27:00 - [5] Originally by: Peckles The onyx is a pretty decent solo boat. The drake isn't bad as long as you aren't a noob. Navy Ravens are good ships, imho though, the price doesn't justify the gain over a normal raven. Mind you CNRs are only about 3x as expensive as normal ravens these days.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:52:00 - [6] Originally by: CHAOS100 don't fly the falcon, its a terrible ship. A good ship is a something like a caracal or DPS fitted vulture. this guy seems legit
Recon Three 181st Legion W A S T E L A N D	Posted - 2009.03.27 22:04:00 - [7] What was that old saying about caldari and PVP? Success Solo PvP Pick two? Something like that. _____ -Slurps up the BoB tears-
arbiter reborn	Posted - 2009.03.27 22:08:00 - [8] navy raven... highest dps ship in the game (2.2k+) bar one off ships also has great buffer or active tank and a utility high!! some ppl may say a downside is less damage too smaller ships but anyone who flies with pulses knows as soon as a cruiser starts the orbit at 500 button your screwed raven... more or less as above both absolutly amazing when used right cerb.. best range(eagle might go a bit further but it struggles to get 200dps) and damage of any snipe hac, great for shooting at bigger targets(bss and such) where a snipe hac gang wont down them in a few seconds falcon.. at the momement the best recon in eve for gang work, almost untouchable nerf soon to come rokh one of the best blaster ships in game especially with its extra range great damage and tank when setup rtight, also its one of the only two really viable gunnery snipe bss in game the other being the apoc t1 cruisers.. caracal can hit far and reasonably hard for its price, blackbird is a good if not the best large gang cruiser ferox 79k ehp 690 dps on a tier 1 bc, one of the most underated bcs in game, its also the only really vuable snipe bc for roaming in hac snipe gangs drake.. put hamms and buffer with full tackle and mwd = win put hevies and full passive tank for f1 to f8 laziness = loose crow is a great fleet takler works suprisingly well with rokets raptor makes a great blaster ceptor so um yes just learn to fly them properly,
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.27 22:10:00 - [9] Drake, Raven, Falcon, Scorpion, Blackbird
Adaera	Posted - 2009.03.27 22:36:00 - [10] Originally by: AstroPhobic Falcon, Scorpion, Blackbird Until next patch ¼_¼ ___________________ I for one welcome our new bee overlords
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.27 23:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Recon Three What was that old saying about caldari and PVP? Success Solo PvP Pick two? Something like that. I think you throw Caldari in there and pick 3? --
Nugite	Posted - 2009.03.28 00:05:00 - [12] Originally by: arbiter reborn ferox 79k ehp 690 dps on a tier 1 bc, one of the most underated bcs in game, its also the only really vuable snipe bc for roaming in hac snipe gangs how are you pulling 690 dps out of the ferox, I get 660 with t2 neutrons, overheated with void and 5 drones with max skills.
Panzram GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:15:00 - [13] the drake
Adaera	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:19:00 - [14] And it's: Caldari Solo PVP Success Pick 3, but he doesn't seem to be asking about solo pvp. ___________________ I for one welcome our new bee overlords
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:23:00 - [15] Edited by: Stuart Price on 28/03/2009 01:23:58 Originally by: Terianna Eri [Drake, Buffer HAM!] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Salvager I /OFFLINE Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 Laser-Ferox is also funny as hell. Blaster-Moa is a nasty surprise. AML-Caracal munches through frigs. Blaster-Rokh is an excellent battleship. Torp-Raven is a one trick pony but it's a good trick. Scorp and Blackbird are always primary, which speaks volumes for their abilities. And this is without going anywhere NEAR t2 ships. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Elisabeth Dakar	Posted - 2009.03.28 03:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Adaera And it's: Caldari Solo PVP Success Pick 3, but he doesn't seem to be asking about solo pvp. This may be true for many Caldari ships, but its not true for the Drake. The Drake is one of the best solo BC i know.
Thorian Baalnorn	Posted - 2009.03.28 04:10:00 - [17] The people that tell you how bad caldari ships obviously dont know how to use them properly or dont know people that do. Besides a couple of exceptions they arent great solo boats, but they shouldnt be ruled out as not pvp viable. The caracal and blackbird are probably 2 of the best cruisers in the class. The caracal can deal over 200 DPS at 100 KM ... and its not just useful at range. Speaking of which many people epically fail at understanding how to use caldari ships and this saddens me. Missle boats are greatly underrated. Sure they dont get great dps... but what other ship in the game can you say your optimal is 0-100 KM? Use blasters, autos, pulses your range is limited to a few km. Use long range weapons and ill just come in close and orbit at 500-1000 tracking me is going to be an issue and if i decide to fit a tracking disruptor impossible. What good is 600 dps if you cant hit your target but it can hit you? This is probably the greatest strength of caldari ships. They have a very very large optimal range. Whereas gunboats have a very limited optimal area and must make an effort to stay in that range... all a caldari pilot has to do is stay under his max targeting/ missle range . So while the DPS isnt as great as guns...ive had pilots struggle to hit my "junk caldari missleboats" cause i fight at a range they cant. Caldari are good fleet support ships, as i said the DPS isnt great but on a battlefield a switch of primaries dont require much readjustment of position if any and personally i rather spend my time killing stuff than chasing it around the grid trying to get in range. While eft claims turrets have more dps.... since i have a large optimal i actually spend more time shooting at the target and less time trying to get in range of the target so i still end up doing more damage... The only other ships that can claim this is droneboats which have obvious disadvantages compared to missleboats in this respect.
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.03.28 06:48:00 - [18] Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn The people that tell you how bad caldari ships obviously dont know how to use them properly QFT. There should be a lot of people who pick a race without having an idea what they are about. Most beginners do. When they pick a race known for e-war and missiles all their entire world of Aim&Shot of other space games (or Sci-Fi movies) falls apart. Those who hate Caldari are often the same as those who put lasers on everything. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while.
Psiri	Posted - 2009.03.28 07:00:00 - [19] Edited by: Psiri on 28/03/2009 07:01:17 Decent ships, where the (s) indicates a fair solo potential. Blaster Rokh (s) Caracal (s) Crow (s) Kestrel (s) Merlin (s) Scorpion Good ships, Onyx (s) Blackbird Basilisk Great ships, Drake (s) Falcon Rokh Harpy (s)
Thorian Baalnorn	Posted - 2009.03.28 07:04:00 - [20] Originally by: Whitehound Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn The people that tell you how bad caldari ships obviously dont know how to use them properly QFT. There should be a lot of people who pick a race without having an idea what they are about. Most beginners do. When they pick a race known for e-war and missiles all their entire world of Aim&Shot of other space games (or Sci-Fi movies) falls apart. Those who hate Caldari are often the same as those who put lasers on everything. The famous laser ferox! Caldari have decent ships if you learn how to fly them properly.. I think the same goes for every race. But many people who will tell you that caldari ships suck either a) dont/cant fly them or b) dont know how to fit/use them. Caldari ships have a unique style compared with amarr and gallente, much like minnitar ships use a split weapons platform on many of their builds, which i never understood why using split weapons was so complicated. get into guns optimal range fire guns..... fire missles too .... seems pretty simple.
Shade Millith International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.28 07:59:00 - [21] Originally by: Terianna Eri [Drake, Buffer HAM!] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Salvager I /OFFLINE Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 Quoting this for absolute truth. One of the best solo BC's in the game. --------------------------------------------
yani dumyat Minmatar purple pot hogs Doctrine.	Posted - 2009.03.28 08:17:00 - [22] Poasting in a caldari pvp love thread [Caracal, light assault 01] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Swap the invul for a sensor booster if you think you're hard enough No 1 rule of missil pvp, use the right ammo: T1 shield = EM (kinetic if you think they are EM tanked) T1 armour = kinetic T2 amarr = thermal T2 caldari = EM T2 gallente = Explosive (EM if they are a shield tank) T2 minmatar = kinetic
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.03.28 09:04:00 - [23] There is a misconception, mentioned at least once in this thread, that Caldari are only "support" ships. This is false. In fleet battles, Caldari have the best ship in virtually every class. Currently awesome ships: Crow - it does the job as well as any interceptor, and tracking-independent damage is very nice. Harpy - either up close gank with blasters, mid-range tackle (and solo even) with 75mm rails, or fleet support with a pure sniper fit, all are good. Cerberus - 0-250km range with good dps = your target has nowhere to hide. Eagle - limited role, but dominating in that role. Onyx - tied with the Broadsword for best HIC. Falcon - just look at the number of whine threads, but it's up for a nerf and may or may not still be good. Drake - fit it properly (IOW, buffer + 3x BCUs, your choice of HAMs or HMLs) instead of bringing your comedy carebear setup, and you have an excellent and very cost-effective PvP ship, with gank/tank comparable to the other BCs, but much better range. Vulture - it's an Eagle with a gang mod. Scorpion - see Falcon above. Raven - somewhat more limited in role these days now that cruise missiles are worthless, but still a very good small-gang dps ship. Rokh - the ultimate fleet battleship, and a very solid blaster ship as well. -----------
Ig Neus	Posted - 2009.03.28 10:10:00 - [24] Caldari have great pvp ships. Generally, Caldari ships are bad for solo, mediocre for small gangs, good for larger gangs and excellent in fleets. Of course there are exceptions, like Falcon (nerf incoming at last!) or Rokh (nice Battleship and viable in gangs of all sizes). They have some bad ships as well but every race has them.
TimMc Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.28 10:44:00 - [25] Drake is a pretty good pwnmobile, and so is the Navy Raven. It also doubles up as bait that NO ONE will ignore.

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