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Thetys
Caldari
Breed of Malakka
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Thetys on 28/03/2009 13:15:28
from my point of view (yeah, i'm a isk-whoring, scum-sucking, pillaging piece of...) pirates are a big player driven content and entertainment machine in low sec. other games have to use npc's to simulate pirates, getting the right feeling when traveling dangerous parts of the mmo world. eve is one step ahead. eve got real pirates, jumping traders, stealing their loot, scanning mission runners, camping gates, ransoming pod's and force the most clueless pilots join their teamspeak to sing a funny song for the pirates to save their isky-ship. pirates also play a keyrole when it comes to economic mechanics. piracy is the foul and slimy glue that keeps the economy machinery lubricated.
what about some pirate love?
i dream of a better world, where pirates get some love from CCP for doing one of the dirtiest job's which have to be done.
give us dirty men some skills to fit our special but helpfull role. i can think of skills like:
global criminal flag time reduction
a skill that reduces global timer for something like 2-5% per skill level
sentry ship damage reduction
a skill that reduces sentry damage taken by your ship (stations/gates) for a good amount (5-10% per skill level)
sentry drone damage reduction
a skill that reduces sentry damage taken by your drones for a good amount (5-15% per skill level)
built in cargo scanner for everyone who has a security standing < -9
and other usefull but not too overpowered tools to reward the pirates of eve.
i'm talking low-sec (0.4 to 0.1) i'm not talking high sec!
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
A Pretty Pony Princess
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:24:00 -
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Dosent look too gamebreaking to me. Would be nice to see somthing like this implemented.
Though, in hindsight; I really should put in some sort of spacer between my post and signature |
Terraform
Gallente
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:28:00 -
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And why exactly should pirates get this kind of love? Because theyre pirates?
Actually, one of the biggest "economic mechanics" as you refer to is alliance warfare and to some extend Faction Warfare.
Ofcourse pirates earn some of the glory, but not enough to be given specific features.
Besides! you guys get the thrill of the kill, that and the adrenaline rush should be more than enough to keep you guys going for a while longer.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:30:00 -
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why would concord reduce your timer just because you trained a skill?
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Thetys
Caldari
Breed of Malakka
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Thetys on 28/03/2009 13:31:42
 Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
why would concord reduce your timer just because you trained a skill?
for the same reason concord gives you more security standing gain for training a skill?
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:47:00 -
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Why would you get a skill to mitigate the damage from gate guns when gate guns were put in the game specifically because pirates camp the gates?
Why should pirates get to live by different game mechanics than everyone else in the game?
Built-in cargo scanner? GCC flag reduction so you can get away with tanking less damage from the gate/station guns? What are you smoking?
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TimMc
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:53:00 -
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This thread is completely logical and I support it.
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Thetys
Caldari
Breed of Malakka
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Why would you get a skill to mitigate the damage from gate guns when gate guns were put in the game specifically because pirates camp the gates?
Why should pirates get to live by different game mechanics than everyone else in the game?
Built-in cargo scanner? GCC flag reduction so you can get away with tanking less damage from the gate/station guns? What are you smoking?
in my proposal, everyone can train those skills, but of course pirates benefit more then others.
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Jamyl TashMurkon
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:58:00 -
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This Logic is completely thread and I endorse it.
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P'xel
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:59:00 -
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Had simular thoughts in the past.. Mine included some sort of hacking skill to use on the gates.. With simular results to your ideas.. :)
Im all up for it!
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Vaedian GER
Excidium.
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:10:00 -
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After countless nerfs/boosts against low-sec piracy (gigantic stargates, NOS (Pilgrim), Blockade Runners, etc.) it would really be time to show the greatest difference to other MMO's, with the exception of the 0.0 sandbox system, some love.
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Tykkis
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:03:00 -
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I'd rework criminal system like this.
If you have securty status below 0 and you destroy a ship or pod someone you become a criminal for a WEEK!!! Any hostile action towards criminal is not considered criminal act.
Every player would be free to chase you. That would make you really feel like criminal/evil/outlaw  And it would get you some pvp if you wanted to... maybe some anti-pirates would try and catch you just for RP reasons 
This week as a criminal wouldn't mean concord would chase you or gateguns would attack you. This would only mean, you did a bad thing and other players can punish you for it for a week.
Any support for this genious idea???? 
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Wu Jiaqiu
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:03:00 -
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Two words.
Delayed Local.
That would be enough for pirate love - and carebears as well.
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Koramok
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:06:00 -
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How about letting 'pirates' log into God Mode whenever they please so they can go around and grief and gank little defenseless carebears and giggle to their hearts content.
I'd rather see scamming and griefing become banable offenses and more incentives for low sec PvP. Right now it seems there are 3 career paths- large scale alliance PvP, high sec PvE, or griefer of carebears under the guise of 'piracy.'
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Meazy San
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Koramok
I'd rather see scamming and griefing become banable offenses
That would destroy one of the main things that makes eve, EVE. You wanna be on a game that bans griefing and scamming then go play WoW. I do agree about incentive for low-sec fighting, but what I have no clue
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:00:00 -
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Only problem with piracy is that any real profit aside from ransoming are hard to come by, secondly there are too few targets in lowsec. Even though if it's gotten better.
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Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Thetys
global criminal flag time reduction
a skill that reduces global timer for something like 2-5% per skill level
if you take the 5% number and at max skills, this only shaves off 3.75 minutes.
Originally by: Thetys
sentry ship damage reduction
a skill that reduces sentry damage taken by your ship (stations/gates) for a good amount (5-10% per skill level)
if only we had skills that could increase the strength of your tank.
Originally by: Thetys
sentry drone damage reduction
a skill that reduces sentry damage taken by your drones for a good amount (5-15% per skill level)
yes something that "Increases drone hit points. 5% bonus to drone shield, armor and hull hit points per level." would be nice
Originally by: Thetys
built in cargo scanner for everyone who has a security standing < -9
wtf? why?
visit my blog for my adventures
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Mavrk
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:29:00 -
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Nothing against the OP but I dont think Piracy needs any changes. I do love me some nuib shootin but that would just be alittle OP imho. Still creative, just alittle out of tune
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tykkis
I'd rework criminal system like this.
If you have securty status below 0 and you destroy a ship or pod someone you become a criminal for a WEEK!!! Any hostile action towards criminal is not considered criminal act.
Every player would be free to chase you. That would make you really feel like criminal/evil/outlaw And it would get you some pvp if you wanted to... maybe some anti-pirates would try and catch you just for RP reasons
This week as a criminal wouldn't mean concord would chase you or gateguns would attack you. This would only mean, you did a bad thing and other players can punish you for it for a week.
Any support for this genious idea????
Only if that meant the "criminal" could shoot/aggress/harass anyone, regardless of system sec status, red/blue/neutral standing while they were on the run...
Yeah... That sounds balanced... 
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Meazy San
Originally by: Koramok
I'd rather see scamming and griefing become banable offenses
That would destroy one of the main things that makes eve, EVE. You wanna be on a game that bans griefing and scamming then go play WoW. I do agree about incentive for low-sec fighting, but what I have no clue
While i am not really a fan of scamming, i dont think it should be bannable. However the jita spam crap (and in other systems) should become bannable. Now it is completely risk free (noob alts), spamming local for attention. And then sure you can say people shouldnt be stupid enough to fall for it, but do we really need to punish everyone who enters a busy system because 0.1% of the players fall for the scams?
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Thetys
Caldari
Breed of Malakka
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: Thetys on 28/03/2009 17:07:11
Edited by: Thetys on 28/03/2009 17:05:18
Originally by: Psiri
Only problem with piracy is that any real profit aside from ransoming are hard to come by
haha, you have really no idea!
Originally by: Psiri
secondly there are too few targets in lowsec. Even though if it's gotten better.
a real pirate despises the whole blue-crap. i can talk for me and my corp, we do not have any standings, so plenty targets!
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and PLEASE stick to topic, this thread is about pirate love! scamming has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with piracy.
i'd like to have a constructive discussion and subtile ideas, please keep the whine-amount to a moderate level.
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Strainer
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Wu Jiaqiu
Two words.
Delayed Local.
This, even if only in low-sec.
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crockett EXE
Minmatar
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: crockett EXE on 28/03/2009 18:57:42
Originally by: Psiri
Only problem with piracy is that any real profit aside from ransoming are hard to come by, secondly there are too few targets in lowsec. Even though if it's gotten better.
Yes if you want to show the pirates some love, I'd say make Low Sec more profitable which would bring in more care bears and mission runners.. (yarr I mean food for the pirates)
There just isn't enough ISK involved in pirating, from what I see. It seems like if you look at pirates of the wooden ships and iron cannon days. Well they were doing it, not to have a -10 sec status, but because there was a butt load of money to be made. Look at the pirates of today off the cost of Africa.. They also do it because they make money.
In EVE, the money equation just isn't there to support the piracy as there would be in real life. The only real way to mimic that in EVE is to make Low Sec much more profitable for mission runners and care bears. Which would then make Piracy a more profitable career.
In short.. The pirates don't need any new skills.. They just need more targetss..
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2009.03.28 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Thetys
what about some pirate love?
Nahh... Dont think so. You pirate scumbag outlaws deserve all the misery. 
Anyway, there are little people allready in low sec. With this there would most likely be even less.
Originally by: Dianabolic
Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL |
Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2009.03.28 19:28:00 -
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Quote:
built in cargo scanner for everyone who has a security standing < -9
highslot mod with same CPU use as a salvager would be nice, real nice.
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