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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:22:00 -
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Hey,
As u all know ccp personel is allowed to play on the live servers as they please. obviously without using any commands to spawn themselfs stuff etc.
But theres other ways to get very very rich.
This thread is about one of those ways.
Inside trading: trading items/goods using non-public information gained trough means of working at ccp. even short glances at global economy figures during database access can be enough to get very rich in the right hands. and hey everyone wanna have a lotta isk in eve right?
Does this stuff get investigated? And are there limits to how rich someone working at ccp is allowed to become in eve online TQ server?
ID.
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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:32:00 -
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For years now this has been of big concern to me as you can do basicly anything given enough isk, u can even fund wars, getts lotts of people following your cause, basicly you can completely unbalance the game depending what you do with the isk.
And isk makes isk, if you know what to buy and sell because you have real figures to work with that other people dont. Talking manny trillians of isk here. Complete market control.
Internal Affairs, do you investigate this and are there limits?
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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Drake Draconis
1: Your obviously not using spell checker and type like 5 year old.
2: You have zero evidence.
3: You forgot your tinfoil hat.
4: You epically failed to troll CCP.
Insider Trading is a term used to define the act of someone taking company information they work for and using that information on the stock market to turn a profit and making it look like they got damn lucky.
For you to use such a "Grownup term" in the context of EVE is laughable.
Everything is obviously pubilc knowledge as far as prices go... duh?
All you people who whine about CCP playing amongst you... where's your proof? All I see is you claiming they do this... and yet there is no proof.
Seriously... get a grip on reality well yah?
Even if they did.... your still not producing proof.. put up or shut the hell up.
If you keep this up i will report you for harassment.
On topic:
Proof: CCP CEO made public statement when the whole T2 incident went down that they will allways play on the live servers.
Thats enough to know that they are on the live servers and they are making isk for themselfs in eve. The question is how much isk? and do they use information they gained from working at ccp in their free time on their player characters.
We do not all have access to the same amount of information. For one markets are regional, resources required to construct something thats in development, ccp is allways first to know (way before it even getts on the test servers). The most information is inside the eve database, all trading is recorded its easy to keep track of market tendancys. So no we really dont have the same level of information as ccp.
And the question is aimed at ccp internal affairs, not someone like you obviously baised to believe nobody @ ccp ever does anything wrong (history has proven different allready, hence why the internal affairs was created).
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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:57:00 -
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I have no doubt that they take the IA very very seriously. but is it within the confines of what they are allowed to do? affect eve on a global scale and become insanely rich? Are there rules that say they are not allowed to have more than 1 trillian isk (random figure)?
Because i believe they have no rules about this at all. All we know is that they are not allowed to spawn themselfs stuff.
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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:52:00 -
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Recent events.. (the renaming of bob), have substantionaly lowered my will to simply take their word for it that all is well, move on etc.
What i woud like to see is specific rules ccp personel have to follow when playing on TQ. Can Internal Affairs possibly tell us just what rules there are?
It still wont garentee stuff but atleast we know there are specific rules about this for them to follow.
So IA what rules are there?
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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
this is CCP'S GAME.
A game with a global economy where developers play on the live servers and are abble to affect the game is insane. So yes we need rules for them to be allowed to play on it.
This is our game that they made for us.
What are the rules their personel have to follow?
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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:02:00 -
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Assembly Hall
A platform for players to bring topics to the attention of the Council of Stellar Management.
The CSM (this forum section) is the playerbase conduit with ccp. What your suggesting is that its possible to contact IA directly and get a answer about this.
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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:10:00 -
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If the CSM wont get them to tell us the rules ccp personel have to follow on the TQ servers.
How do i go around contacting the IA? Is there a specific procedure for this to actualy get a answer?
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InnerSphere
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: InnerSphere on 29/03/2009 13:53:57
Originally by: Jin Labarre
It is a good thing that CCP employees play the game, because it is the best (and only) way to ensure that they know what the game is all about.
It is a good thing that they do so on the live server, because the test server is not a true representation of the actual game environment, since it follows a lot of different rules.
It is logical that they make ISK for their characters somehow.
It is also logical that they do so based on what they know, as long as that does not include using exploits. They can't avoid knowing things, after all. You don't expect them to drug themselves thick and dozy every time they play, right?
You have to trust in CCP, CCP's internal watchdogs and the CSM to keep a watchful eye on this. If you don't, it makes no difference anyway, because if CCP actively tried to smash the game, they'd succeed with or without your trust, with or without controls. Even if it just meant to go bozo on the server blades with a fire axe. That would be pretty dumb, though. After all, EVE is their biz, not just their hobby.
Im gonna believe they have rules for playing on TQ , its a damn shame they arent public tho.
Im sure they woud never ruin the game they worked on so hard. However they might think its fun to get rich and wage wars on TQ. If even the IA team thinks its fun for them to wage wars we got a problem as it can get pretty unbalanced to fight someone with near unlimited isk.
Im into pvp a lott but i dont like putting a lott of effort/time into beating a enemy that has unlimited resources, it is why when the T20 thing got out i started to put very little serious effort into eve as the person ur fighting might be one these CCP guys.
Question is , is it fun/allowed for them to wage/organise wars or not?
And from what you have seen are they into that stuff on TQ? or is that NDA aswell..
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