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Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
673
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:25:00 -
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Masamune Dekoro wrote:
This is a true, there is a section of the classifieds in my local paper which boasts all about their Oriental Ladies and Massage.
Exactly. Denigrating.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1152
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:26:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Living in San Francisco makes you SO WORLDLY Indeed most of the world, especially those who have been there, would agree. Thank you. Are you jealous ?
try reading a damn book. or failing that, the freaking wikipedia page.  TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
673
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:26:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:
Don't peddle your wonky interpretation of the word as if it was globally considered true. Plenty of people describe themselves as oriental. This is as silly as "African American" being used to describe someone born and raised in Africa.
Not my interpretation. Theirs.
And that last sentence is borderline.
Sounds like you want to defend racism here.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Iamien
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
103
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:26:00 -
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Stop ****-posting in my thread. ****-posts now cost 20 mil per sentence, payable to me. |

Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
247
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:26:00 -
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Get out of my internets you **** ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1724
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:29:00 -
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Alhezhar Alabyd al-Mu'minin wrote:Are you implying the Orientals are fat?
Wait did we just decide that was okay or not
Apparently it depends on whether you live in San Francisco or not... When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1153
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:29:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Not my interpretation. Theirs.
Prove it. I've already disproven you.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And that last sentence is borderline.
Sounds like you want to defend racism here.
Are you insane? Sounds to me like you are trying to defend overbearing political correctness here, and have no idea what racism actually means.
Would you call an African man African American? Because I guarantee he'll find that a hell of a lot more offensive than the term African. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
674
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:30:00 -
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Definition of ORIENTAL 1 often capitalized: of, relating to, or situated in Asia
2 a: of superior grade, luster, or value b: being corundum or sapphire but simulating another gem in color
3 often capitalized sometimes offensive: Asian
4 capitalized: of, relating to, or constituting the biogeographic region that includes Asia south and southeast of the Himalayas and the Malay Archipelago west of Wallace's line
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oriental
esp. #3 ____________________________________________________ oriental Pronunciation: /+ö-Ér+¬-ê+¢nt(+Ö)l, +Ær-/ (also Oriental) adjective
1 of, from, or characteristic of Asia, especially East Asia: oriental countries (Oriental) Zoology relating to or denoting a zoogeographical region comprising Asia south of the Himalayas and Indonesia west of WallaceGÇÖs line. Distinctive animals include pandas, gibbons, tree shrews, tarsiers, and moonrats. 2(of a pearl or other jewel) orient.
noun often offensive a person of Asian, especially East Asian, descent.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/oriental ___________________________________________________________
They ALL say offensive.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Iamien
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
103
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:32:00 -
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*walks away from thread before it goes thermo-nucleur* |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1153
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:33:00 -
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Since you seem incapable of reading the link I provided for you:
"While a small number of reference works used in the United States describe Oriental as pejorative, or antiquated but not necessarily offensive, the American Heritage Book of English Usage notes that: It is worth remembering, though, that Oriental is not an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. It is most objectionable in contemporary contexts and when used as a noun, as in the appointment of an Oriental to head the commission. But in certain historical contexts, or when its exotic connotations are integral to the topic, Oriental remains a useful term."
[...]
"In British English, the term Oriental is not considered pejorative or offensive, and refers to people from East and Southeast Asia. Asian is generally used only to mean people from South Asia."
[...]
"The word Oriental, in place of Asian, is seldom used in colloquial conversation in Australia and is understood, but considered anachronistic rather than offensive."
[...]
"In German Orient is usually used synonymously with the Arab World and Persia."
Try visiting another country sometime. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
675
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:33:00 -
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Iamien wrote:*walks away from thread before it goes thermo-nucleur*
Yup. It starts when they deny racism. But that's America for you. ALWAYS in denial about it.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Alhezhar Alabyd al-Mu'minin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:33:00 -
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Is this a good place to tell people that the Japanese word for "Gorilla" is "Gorira"? Because that's a true thing you can look it up and not even me making fun of a silly sounding accent. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
675
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:34:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:try reading a damn book. or failing that, the freaking wikipedia page. 
Thanks for the link to a publicly alterable source.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1154
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:35:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Iamien wrote:*walks away from thread before it goes thermo-nucleur* Yup. It starts when they deny racism. But that's America for you. ALWAYS in denial about it.
Protip: I have three citizenships and am so multiracial I call myself a mutt. But feel free to lump me in with your countrymen.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:try reading a damn book. or failing that, the freaking wikipedia page.  Thanks for the link to a publicly alterable source. 
Feel free to check that page's history you dunce. Last edit 5 days ago. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Miss Yanumano
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:35:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Definition of ORIENTAL 1 often capitalized: of, relating to, or situated in Asia 2 a: of superior grade, luster, or value b: being corundum or sapphire but simulating another gem in color 3 often capitalized sometimes offensive: Asian 4 capitalized: of, relating to, or constituting the biogeographic region that includes Asia south and southeast of the Himalayas and the Malay Archipelago west of Wallace's line http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/orientalesp. #3
Translation: Booohooo, I've been proven wrong on all accounts and now I want to impose my local and obviously superior view and usage of a word on an international forum, and I will decry anyone dissenting as racist because I'm backed into a corner and have no logical recourse, booohooo.
(For the record, in Sweden, Oriental most often is used to romantice Asian countries or cultures, or decribe something of Asian origin with no negative implications)
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:try reading a damn book. or failing that, the freaking wikipedia page.  Thanks for the link to a publicly alterable source. 
Christ, you do know you can with the click of a single mousebotton, check the edit history and what it edited? |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
675
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:36:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:
Would you call an African man African American?
Who would do that ? You need to lay of the drugs. Your example sucks.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
675
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:38:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote: But in certain historical contexts, .
EVE is just bursting with a need for historical context.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:39:00 -
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Let's go on the orient express!!! Offensive or not, if a person use it in this context to describe someone from Japan he comes across as stupid. Most people using that word tend to only use it to describe a region more known for Turkish kebab and Persian rugs. I doubt anyone would even think of Japanese people if you use that word. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1724
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:40:00 -
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Quote:2 a: of superior grade, luster, or value
No, " I " am Oriental. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
39
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:40:00 -
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There all ninjas ..........
Tal
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Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
675
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:41:00 -
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Miss Yanumano wrote:
(For the record, in Sweden, Oriental most often is used to romantice Asian countries or cultures, or decribe something of Asian origin with no negative implications)
We know this. This is about using the word to describe people, not objects.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
675
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:43:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:Let's go on the orient express!!! Offensive or not, if a person use it in this context to describe someone from Japan he comes across as stupid. Most people using that word tend to only use it to describe a region more known for Turkish kebab and Persian rugs. I doubt anyone would even think of Japanese people if you use that word.
Read Post #13 and 51 REAL careful again.
Again just fair warning.
"Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." - Gurney Halleck |

Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:45:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Miss Yanumano wrote:
(For the record, in Sweden, Oriental most often is used to romantice Asian countries or cultures, or decribe something of Asian origin with no negative implications)
We know this. This is about using the word to describe people, not objects.
It is latin, it means east, started in use to describe what is today known as the middle east. The only thing racist about it could possible be that you equate all people in all of Asia as one people?! Like saying African for people in all of Africa. Or Americans saying Europeans?!

Let's move on and discuss the great news of this influx of new gamers that could add something to the game just as when we got the massive influx of Germans or Russians  |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1344
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:46:00 -
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Iamien wrote:Just asking if anyone has seen an influx in the amount of Japanese players in our community. The press release says there are 10s of 1000s of new players and if so I think we should say hi. I just cant find any of them.
I suspect the first time you find some will be when they are invading your soon to be former home and destroying your assets with determined efficiency.
I doubt you'll be in any mood to wave and say hi as your pod is vaporized.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |

Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:47:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Iamien wrote:Just asking if anyone has seen an influx in the amount of Japanese players in our community. The press release says there are 10s of 1000s of new players and if so I think we should say hi. I just cant find any of them. I suspect the first time you find some will be when they are invading your soon to be former home and destroying your assets with determined efficiency. I doubt you'll be in any mood to wave and say hi as your pod is vaporized. Mr Epeen 
I worry more about a potential Korean influx  |

Miss Yanumano
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:47:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Miss Yanumano wrote:
(For the record, in Sweden, Oriental most often is used to romantice Asian countries or cultures, or decribe something of Asian origin with no negative implications)
We know this. This is about using the word to describe people, not objects.
Decribe something OR SOMEONE of Asian origin with no negative implications
Clarified, now now, have you ever heard the following quote?
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
The best thing you can hope is to just stop posting, forever.
EDIT: As for the OP, I too would love to hear more about any recent influx of Japanese players. |

Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
199
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:49:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Another round of applause for the American Educational System at its finest.
Your posts have been increasingly terrible in recent weeks.
Take a break and come back. Thanks.
Also...
There are swaths of historic texts referring to people as Oriental. In the US, that's considered uncouth, but we also go to great lengths to try to apply terms to people that don't sound offensive----------that is, don't sound offensive to *white people*. In other countries that speak English, not really. . |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1164
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:49:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:I worry more about a potential Korean influx 
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hansameda TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:49:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Let's go on the orient express!!! Offensive or not, if a person use it in this context to describe someone from Japan he comes across as stupid. Most people using that word tend to only use it to describe a region more known for Turkish kebab and Persian rugs. I doubt anyone would even think of Japanese people if you use that word. Read Post #13 and 51 REAL careful again. Again just fair warning.
Fair warning about what? Is it against the rules if I call you American? Not good enough? How about westerner??? |

stoicfaux
995
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:51:00 -
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Note to self: stop naming my freighter the "Space Whale"...
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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