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Zezman
Sekura-Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.29 06:05:00 -
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I first saw Eve Online on a store shelf in Wal~Mart. I didn't know what it was, except that it was a science fiction game, ok cool. And I saw that it was an online game. Even neater. Thereafter, I met a cool group of guys while mining and became part of the Sekura Corporation.
Our corp and player group evolved over time, from Miners to Pirate hunters to Mercenaries to Alliance Warriors to Pirates and eventually to Faction Warmongers. Throughout it all, pvp was always the central theme. Whether we were mining, producing, or running missions, the ends were always for pushing the pvp envelope.
Why is Eve Online greater than any other MMO ever published?
Eve Online is the greatest most hard core pvp game in existence.
Even when I play other online games that pretend to have pvp, I let them know just how pathetic their pvp really is, and point to Eve as an example of the ultimate in pvp.
You invest more, you can lose more. This game does not appeal to everyone. It has a super high learning curve, and is very unforgiving in the wild parts of the universe.
There's another aspect of Eve that makes it great...
Eve Online is a self motivational game. If you lack self motivation, you will find yourself bored to death. It has no race to level 60. It doesn't have a set of ultimate armor that makes everyone look like the same uber clone. When you invest in a more powerful ship, you risk more. No other game has the same reward / risk level as this one.
Not only that, but Eve is always growing. Back in the day when the only ship types were Frigates, Cruisers, Battleships and Industrials, I mentioned in a thread how cool it would be to have Destroyers, Battlecruisers and Capitol ships. Lo and behold! Eve developers had the same idea. Great minds and all.
Same thing when I mentioned that it would be interesting if you could jury rig your ship, and salvage wrecks of ships. Those things also became reality. I began to suspect that perhaps Eve Developers do listen to their players ideas after all, or perhaps its a case of parallel invention.
Now we have Tech Three Cruisers. While I am trained in the operation and pilot skills for one of these, I have yet to see one for sale along with subsystems. However, the idea of what a T3 cruiser is, the modular aspect, the malleability of function, and the alteration of hull according to modular design, was one of my ideas from a long time ago.
The only thing I could think of next would be putting all of those planetary vehicles, marines, small arms and other trade items into play as part of a RTS combat scenario over habitable planets, moons, or even stations. Perhaps making it possible to disable a ship in space without destroying it, then using shock troops to board that ship and possibly take it over, ejecting the pod pilot in the process, or, repelling said invasion with your own marines and small arms you keep on board.
The future holds many secrets. We can only hope.
One thing is for sure, there is no lack of content in this game. The missions may be repetitive, the gates broken, but as long as there are players, there will be dynamic player driven content.
The skill system has no cap. No other game can boast that. Eve designers realized that when a player reaches the top, he has two options, repeat the content with a new alt character, or move on. Because in any other game, reaching the top means running out of game. It is inevitable. It happened in Everquest, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, and so many more. However, like real life, Eve online doesn't have an end of story book story. That is what makes it great.
I only have a few words left to finish this posi-rant. I've played EQ, WoW, EQ2, AC, SWG(pre-ngo & post-ngo), DAoC, Lotro, CoH, CoV, UO, Shadowbane, and even Runescape. Yet, I keep returning to play Eve Online.
Last but not least, Eve is the only game with a single shard. UO players know what I mean. I doubt it can get any better than this.
Viva la Eve Online
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.29 06:25:00 -
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Positive posts cause forum crashes.
Stop greifing the forum.
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Neo Omni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.29 06:31:00 -
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Eve is my first MMOG, so it ruined me for the rest of them.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.29 07:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Neo Omni
Eve is my first MMOG, so it ruined me for the rest of them.
This, pretty much.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente
StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.03.29 07:30:00 -
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EVE is not he most hardcore PVP game, Diablo II is.
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Bullageddon
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.29 07:33:00 -
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RL is the most hardcore MMO around. Unfortunately the GMs don't pay attention, the graphics sucks, and most everyone carebears.
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CHAOS100
Widowmakers
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Posted - 2009.03.29 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Neo Omni
Eve is my first MMOG, so it ruined me for the rest of them.
This, pretty much.
Yeah same. I had played trials of MMO's before, and they never really caught on. One day a friend told me he started this playing this game called "eve online", which I had never even heard of. I saw it was a pay-mmo which turned me off, but hey it had a 14 day trial, what can go wrong with that? Well low and behold 4 years later I am playing the same game.
I downloaded the trial of WoW to try out what the rage was about... I don't see what the big deal is... compared to Eve it is shallow and mind numbing killing X npc for X item to get to level X. More recently I bought Age of Conan since a few friends bought it, and I played it with them for a while. It was neat but I could still see it was trying to emulate the 'ultimate mmo' WoW. I ended up letting the month expire after a couple weeks of playing.
Frankly I don't like fantasy games, probably why I don't like WoW and every other MMO clone.
I don't even like space games/sci fi themes that much, hell I had not played ANY sci-fi game before I started eve. It was the open-ended and brutal pvp aspect of the game that made it different.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.29 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bullageddon
RL is the most hardcore MMO around. Unfortunately the GMs don't pay attention, the graphics sucks, and most everyone carebears.
Well at least the economy is getting rebalanced!
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Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.29 08:47:00 -
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Real Life MMO is better cause no one comes around and nerfs my 250ps car down to 80 for more balanced travel ...
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.03.29 08:54:00 -
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I have to agree with the points mentioned. Eve is not for the solo player that wants a quick game, its for the player who can put in tons of time in the game. They will get rewarded and have the full experience. The solo mission runners will get a boring game and probably quit once they get tired of collecting isk.
Ive always liked the concept of this game so thats why I keep paying the monthly fee even though I dont feel like playing it. Everything takes so long in Eve and I dont want to put that much time into a game anymore, specially a game that makes you work a lot to get the payback.
I probably would not stick around if it wasnt for the offline training though, since then I wouldnt make any progress at all. But now it feels like I will some day have the time to properly play the game again. Maybe I will get unemployed at some point, then I will play all day long. :)
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Zaraki KenpachiSan
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Posted - 2009.03.29 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Perry
Real Life MMO is better cause no one comes around and nerfs my 250ps car down to 80 for more balanced travel ...
You are wrong, they will do, it's just a matter of time.
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Zezman
Sekura-Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.29 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Asuka Smith
EVE is not he most hardcore PVP game, Diablo II is.
How so?
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Life is Experience
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Posted - 2009.03.29 12:25:00 -
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Personally I've always had a problem trying to describe what eve online was all about. The same questions kept popping up "What do you have to do?, What can you do? Why should you do it etc."
Well the greatest line in this thread (apart from the real life MMO sub-discussion), is the following "Eve Online is a self motivational game."
That statement right there sums up all you need to know about Eve Online. If you are motivated you will find yourself a goal. You may not make it on the first attempt, or the second. You may even get your alliance rage quiting en masse, but you will because of the single shard nature have an effect on every other player either in the local area or through a wider audience as each others actions have ripple effects that are barely detectable.
So from now on, I'm not going to mention it's a sandbox game. Eve online, is a self-motivational game for people who enjoy social pvp games.
There may come a time where it could lose it's sci-fi theme, in that pod pilots may spend most of their time on a station or in the further future on a planet and doing what they like, but perhaps not.
Thanks for the ultimate description of Eve Online. All I have to do now is remember it :D
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northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2009.03.29 12:50:00 -
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great post
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Easley Thames
The Maverick Navy
PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.29 12:56:00 -
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Eve is awesome for three reasons:
1) It's a player versus player game (in more ways than one)
2) The world of New Eden is a cold & harsh reality with high risk and thus the potential for epic events that "matter" a great deal
3) The game is played on a single world with a very memorable community (thanks in part to Eve TV and Fanfest)
Eve isn't the best game in every single area. I think much of the game feel unfinished and this unpolished feeling can be very difficult for new players to overcome. What Eve does offer is a unique playground for those with the patience to learn the mechanics of an unorthodox game-system.
I can see someone playing both Eve and another MMO at the same time for different reasons. I did so for a while myself. You don't get to kick people out of their space in most games but you can find something interesting to do in about 10 seconds while Eve is unpredictable.
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Lord Eremet
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Eve is my first MMOG, so it ruined me for the rest of them.
Same for me. I tried a few others, but none had the appeal EVE have.
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WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zezman
Originally by: Asuka Smith
EVE is not he most hardcore PVP game, Diablo II is.
How so?
If you die, you have to make a new character.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: WarlockX
Originally by: Zezman
Originally by: Asuka Smith
EVE is not he most hardcore PVP game, Diablo II is.
How so?
If you die, you have to make a new character.
If you play in hardcore mode yah, however DiabloII isn't an mmorpg, so it is hard to compare :p
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.29 14:02:00 -
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Quaristice
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Posted - 2009.03.29 15:30:00 -
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Though I agree with everything you said...the post was kinda *****. No offense...
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.03.29 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
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Tag Heuer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.29 17:39:00 -
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Nice post.
But CCP will still not give you a free month's play for brown-nosing. 
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.29 17:45:00 -
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I didn't read all text but since the first part contained mining and finding the game on a store shelf makes me do thumbs up! Great game 
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.29 18:07:00 -
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Eves greatest strength is its variety of things to do and the near total freedom to do them in. Its like a whole flash page of quality minigames with a dash of pew pew and your nerdy roomies spreadsheet all rolled up into one huge interconnected game of how life would be as the head honcho of your ship, corp or alliance if we were an interstellar spacefaring species. Tbh if the aliens are tapping in to eve to see how humanity would take to the stars I would bet after a while of reading the forums and local chat they would probably nudge an asteroid our way. 
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.29 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
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Zezman
Sekura-Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.29 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Zezman on 29/03/2009 22:47:57
Originally by: Tag Heuer
Nice post.
But CCP will still not give you a free month's play for brown-nosing.
Damn! 
Originally by: Chribba
I didn't read all text but since the first part contained mining and finding the game on a store shelf makes me do thumbs up! Great game
Very well, here's a Zez'z NotesÖ of what my original post was all about:
Ten Points of Why Eve Online is the best MMO ever
- I bought Eve Online from a store based upon the Box Cover Art.
- Our Corp evolved over time to enjoy nearly every aspect of the game
- Eve Online is the best pvp game to date.
- Eve Online is one of the few Self-Motivational Games, meaning you have to find your own purpose in the game.
- Eve Online has grown and added new content on a consistent basis, rather than stagnating like many other games.
- The development of ships and abilities were predicted by me, and follow a natural development cycle for Sci-Fi games.
- The Future of Eve Online is unknown, but we can expect even more content and fun things to blow up.
- The Character development system based upon no-cap skills is the best feature, bar none.
- I should know, I've played almost every major MMO since Ultima Online.
- Last but not least, Eve Online is unique in that there is but one world, everyone belongs to the same Universe.
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente
Ammo Tech Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.29 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Neo Omni
Eve is my first MMOG, so it ruined me for the rest of them.
This, pretty much.
Same, this game is what got me looking at other MMO's in the first place. Everything else pales in comparison 
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Gilbert Drillerson
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:16:00 -
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I think it was Oveur that once put it like this:
eve is NOT a harsh and unforgiving game by accident... eve is a harsh and unforgiving game by design !
Never seen it better described... and that IS why i love the game after over 5 years :)
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Nifan
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:27:00 -
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skills lack something, like power, i'm 45m sp and i feel weak cuz i'm amarr
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zezman
I first saw Eve Online on a store shelf in Wal~Mart.
Strange, wasn't eve retail version introduced with Apocrypha update ? How comes you first saw it on a store shelf while being a 2003 Char ?
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