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Epegi Givo
Amarr
Demon Theory
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 06:13:00 -
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Edited by: Epegi Givo on 29/03/2009 06:14:44
The new effects are nice additions, but what should we add in next graphics wise?
I invited a friend over so he could see EVE, and the first thing he said was "those planets suck! I could to better planets then that!"
That means it is time to upgrade planets, because planets are pretty big and noticeable. and right now, the graphics for the planets aren't very good.
maybe stop having them look like solid colors and actually have noticeable oceans, mountains, snow, cities, etc.
Next thing we need to upgrade is Anti Aliasing.
Now, this can be relatively complex to fix. I am aware that you can force AA on but that makes the client unstable.
What I would recommend is releasing a third version of the client called Premium DX10.
This it pretty much a client with DX 10 so that you can put in AA.
Third, shadows. These aren't the worst in the world. but can get pretty bad sometimes.
When putting shadows on another ship, it appears as a bunch of blocks instead of a shadow. It actually looks better to not cast shadows on other ships than to have them.
Also when I was looking at my Apoc I got a weird shadow-spikes (As in imagine a bunch of really sharp waves) thing on the border of where it goes from lighted surface to shadowed area.
TL;DR
1. Upgrade planets
2. Anti-alliasing
3. Fix shadows
What do you guys think?
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Neo Omni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.29 06:34:00 -
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I agree.
I would like the space background to look a little more realistic also.
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Beth Korai
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Posted - 2009.03.29 07:28:00 -
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Howz about instituting a real testing program that'll ensure the near-random bugs we see in every friggin' release and patch doesn't cause the trouble it has in all of the recent releases? Some of the paying subscribers can't keep throwing new hardware at the software just because it isn't tested properly.
*Note: 25 years in the software business here...
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Neo Omni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.29 08:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Beth Korai
Howz about instituting a real testing program that'll ensure the near-random bugs we see in every friggin' release and patch doesn't cause the trouble it has in all of the recent releases? Some of the paying subscribers can't keep throwing new hardware at the software just because it isn't tested properly.
*Note: 25 years in the software business here...
That would be ideal, unfortunately none of us know exactly how CCP is structured internally.
They know Eve has a dedicated user base and that may be reason enough for them not to give testing much priority. Seriously, how many of us have walked away because of bugs?
Now, if EVE had a viable competitor, things would be different.
I suspect CCP is resting on their laurels.
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Therran Promitz
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Posted - 2009.03.29 08:29:00 -
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I think planets should be bigger, because when you go up to a planet, a cruiser would be the size of a small country!
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.03.29 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/03/2009 08:42:20
Its the in-space backgrounds that needs updating. Maybe its not obvious to everybody, but if you really think about it, that is what is having the largest effect on the overall impression of what Eve looks like.
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Can you nano Titans?
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AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.29 09:53:00 -
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Main problem is if they do anything else most people will think EvE is a turn based strategy game because of the FPS.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.03.29 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Roemy Schneider on 29/03/2009 10:35:41
eve has effects?! 
too soon...?
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Terraform
Gallente
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2009.03.29 10:38:00 -
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What really bothers me lately is the backgrounds. I cant see if my freaking modules are turned on or off!
Cant they just go back to the whole icon blinking green instead of just the outer ring?
More blackness, less cloudy fluffy my-little-pony-backgrounds!
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Laarz
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Posted - 2009.03.29 11:16:00 -
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I totally agree that planets and backgrounds need to be completely redone , currently they are ugly and boring and give an awful impression of the game. I would have much prefered to have had new planets and backgrounds over new effects tbh. People have been going on about this for some time but CCP dont seem to listen, i really had hope that it was gonna be done with apocrypha but it wasnt so were probably looking at a long time before they do anything.
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Tykkis
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Posted - 2009.03.29 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tykkis on 29/03/2009 11:27:30
I gave some ideas about the planets sometime ago.
Think i said to bring stations, planets and gates near the planets (500km) away and update the planets. It's much more realistic way to add graphics into the game than to make bright fantasy nebulas. It would cause some more 'warp through planets' tho 
Edit: just some info... geostationary satellites orbit at 150km i think... low orbit is considered 150-1000km. station at 150km orbit could look very cool 
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Xenoxide
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Epegi Givo
What I would recommend is releasing a third version of the client called Premium DX10.
NO. There is the reason there is now only ONE client (Premium; Premium-Lite doesn't exist, it's just lower detail settings on the client), and that is that it was costing too much time and money to maintain two different clients. I have no doubt that CCP are already looking into how they can further the graphics engine, I imagine DX10 is an option they are looking at.
Originally by: Epegi Givo
TL;DR
1. Upgrade planets
2. Anti-alliasing
3. Fix shadows
1. Yes, please. The current planets are horribly outdated. Just a higher-res/more detailed texture would be nice.
2. Sure, but doesn't need to be as high on the priority list as 1. I imagine with the number of complaints at the loss of Classic that there are actually relatively few people out there able to run Premium at it's max, making anti-alisiasing for those few people a low priority.
3. Didn't even know there was a problem...
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Epegi Givo
Amarr
Demon Theory
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 18:02:00 -
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so, the general consensus is to add fixing the background into pririty 2 and moving everything else back?
I never really noticed a problem with the background (though it is annoying trying to tell if a module is on or not, This got me killed once when I didn't turn a second repper on, if I had then I would have gotten a caracal and a hulk kill)but I wasn't here when the old backgrounds were around. Maybe take away some of the nebulae and gas clouds, cause there aren't that many in real space, so why should there be that many in EVE space?)
Im updating the OP
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Epegi
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Epegi on 29/03/2009 19:39:31
added some images so people can see the wierd shadow effects.
Edit: accidentally posted wiht an alt. it shouldnt be hard to tell me and this guy anyuway.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:49:00 -
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Planets will be updated once they start planetary interaction supposivly next year.
This winter is quantum rise with emperyan age 2.0 aka everything quantum rise was supposed to bring but didn't make it in apothrica and quantum rise 1 and expanding on things that emperyan age introduced.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:58:00 -
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Also, better starfields.
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Vyre V'Umbra
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Posted - 2009.03.29 20:04:00 -
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I agree that backgrounds first, and planets second need updated. All of the backgrounds shouldn't be so 'busy' and planets need to be bigger and more unique.
Perhaps we should create a proposal in the Assembly Hall?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.29 20:13:00 -
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Also, if you look at the omgwtfamazing graphics shown in the empyrean age trailer, the background is one of the current ones. Imagine that scene with a nicer background but one of the current planets. Thus backgrounds=lower priority than planets.
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Hull Blaster
Gallente
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.03.29 20:55:00 -
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I totally agree with you. Those four issues really are my main gripes graphics wise, although I could add the c**p cyno blob they introduced with Apocrypha. EVE as it stands looks pretty, but up the res on the backgrounds & planets combined with unforced AA higher res shaders it would be a gorgeous game... 
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses
W A S T E L A N D
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Posted - 2009.03.29 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Epegi Givo
3. Anti-alliasing
doesnt look like you have AA issues from the looks of those screenshots
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Kyle Langdon
Gallente
Killson Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.29 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Langdon on 29/03/2009 21:00:02
I invited a friend over so he could see EVE, and the first thing he said was "those planets suck! I could to better planets then that!"
Still trying to figure out the bolded part
But in all seriousness I completely agreee with you. The planets do need an update.
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Theqwert125
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Theqwert125 on 29/03/2009 21:06:54
I think the problem is less the moons and planets are tiny, (they arent), but more that the stations and gates are in very high orbits. I know this because I managed to mwd into a moon a long time ago, and the tactical overlay said its radius was over 200km, which is bigger than that of the smallest round moon known, Mimas.
The trouble is, fixing this would effectively destroy every BM in the game  .
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Epegi Givo
TL;DR
1. Upgrade planets
2. Fix backgrounds
3. Anti-alliasing
4. Fix shadows
What do you guys think?
1) Already in the works but as its the last of the schedualed updates it will be a while yet. ETA: SoonÖ
2) Ditto
3) Would be nice to have built in support but the hacks work well so its not a huge issue with me personally.
4) They keep upgrading the graphics and adding new expansions on the settings menu on the test server so we will probably get the better shadow quality settings back for players with sufficient gpu power. They probably took all previous settings out to better control the flow of incoming bug reports to only a few areas at a time to simplify development.
Originally by: Achar Losa
i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Epegi Givo
Amarr
Demon Theory
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: Epegi Givo
3. Anti-alliasing
doesnt look like you have AA issues from the looks of those screenshots
actually I am, but it is a lot more noticable when you play the game. Look at a part of the ship that is parallel to teh bottom of your moniter, then watch that part as your ship slowly goes up and down. Those wierd little line thing moving aroudn atthe top would go away if there was Anti aliasing Originally by: Kyle Langdon
Edited by: Kyle Langdon on 29/03/2009 21:00:02
I invited a friend over so he could see EVE, and the first thing he said was "those planets suck! I could to better planets then that!"
Still trying to figure out the bolded part
But in all seriousness I completely agreee with you. The planets do need an update.
he is saying that he could create better planets than CCP did.
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Soi Mala
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Soi Mala on 29/03/2009 21:29:40
Originally by: Epegi Givo
What I would recommend is releasing a third version of the client called Premium DX10.
Just click your fingers and write a DX10 client? ok.
Wouldn't that also negate the point of dropping the classic client? (not wanting to support multiple clients)
Not to mention that there really isn't much to gain from dx10 over dx9, and dx11 will apparently be shipping with windows 7, offering FAR more than dx10.
DX10 is crap, and ccp knows it. :)
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Zaraki KenpachiSan
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Epegi Givo
[the whole post]
I agree with every single word.
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Epegi Givo
Amarr
Demon Theory
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Epegi Givo on 29/03/2009 21:41:57
Originally by: Soi Mala
Edited by: Soi Mala on 29/03/2009 21:29:40
Originally by: Epegi Givo
What I would recommend is releasing a third version of the client called Premium DX10.
Just click your fingers and write a DX10 client? ok.
Wouldn't that also negate the point of dropping the classic client? (not wanting to support multiple clients)
Not to mention that there really isn't much to gain from dx10 over dx9, and dx11 will apparently be shipping with windows 7, offering FAR more than dx10.
DX10 is crap, and ccp knows it. :)
DX 10/11 is the only solution I can think of to make the game run stably with AA.
either that or making AA possible in DX9, which would be horribly laggy.
If you have another solution then please tell me.
Im not saying that it has to be done, that is just a list of my perceived importance of each thing, not the order it should be done in.
what I would do is fix backgrounds first, then fix planets when they bring in planetary interaction, then fix up the shadows, then try a DX10 client (And take advantage of it by making the graphics even better)
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Soi Mala
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:50:00 -
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The problem isn't with DX9. AA was around LONG before dx9 and it can handle it fine. The problem lies within CCPs coding.
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Epegi Givo
Amarr
Demon Theory
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Soi Mala
The problem isn't with DX9. AA was around LONG before dx9 and it can handle it fine. The problem lies within CCPs coding.
oh, I thought that DX9 had AA problems, I didn't know it was just CCP.
Well, it would be really nice if it could work.
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mechtech
Entropy Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:38:00 -
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Planets, backgrounds, general effects touch up, cosmos v2 (go through the galaxy and add more unique things to random systems and constellations to make eve feel more alive)
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