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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:27:00 -
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What is the point of minmantar ships? Amar has cool lasers, gallente has drones and caldari pilots fly missile platforms. Minmatar ships are just a rubbishy hodge-podge. They need twice as much skills and still do less damage.
The only Min ship I like is the Rifter. The rest are just meh.
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Kalazar
Amarr Asshats and Alcoholics Turbo.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:37:00 -
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You're right, Minmatar ships are rubbish, you shouldn't fly them BECAUSE OF FALCON
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Loo Kinn
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:51:00 -
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I think the theory is once you get skills and can fit guns+missiles+drones+NEUT+4 tanks at the same time, Minmatar would be the toughter opponent.
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Par'adox
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:54:00 -
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jack of all trades and master of none - and I love it.
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kalazar BECAUSE OF FALCON
Please resize image to a file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.03.29 14:02:00 -
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Sunglasses dude. Sunglasses.
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Loo Kinn
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Posted - 2009.03.29 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Loo Kinn on 29/03/2009 14:15:03 And real Minmatar can do all this with 2 finger up their nose while watching gallente holoreel.
Savages!
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Pater Peccavi
Minmatar Tactical Initiative
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Posted - 2009.03.29 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain Sunglasses dude. Sunglasses.
I don't have sunglasses
I do, however, have the hurricane. Best looking ship in the entire game. ----
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Lovely Lily
Minmatar GHOST RANGERS Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 16:20:00 -
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yeah minmatar takes serious skill training to use the ships well, and the ships are sexy as hell . that being said the rifter, rupture, hurricane, and maelstrom are all epic wins.T2 ships: vagabond is still fast as hell and still get the job done. munnin is a sweet ass sniper boat. rapier is epic win for the web range. other than that, i dunno haven't trained the rest yet oh forgot AF's the wolf and jaguar are both great. so yeah unless you have alot of time to train for our ships forget about it stick with your own race and leave our ships alone.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.29 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lovely Lily yeah minmatar takes serious skill training to use the ships well, and the ships are sexy as hell . that being said the rifter, rupture, hurricane, and maelstrom....
Stopped taking you seriously there.
Quote: munnin is a sweet ass sniper boat. rapier is epic win...
No.
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Malfoy Horizon
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Posted - 2009.03.29 16:50:00 -
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I like the Minmatar ships.
But anyway before it comes to the point where you can say: Damn with another race i would have survived/won this battle, a lot of other things play a role.
Skill (virtual and real), fitting, strategy, experience, intel, teamwork.
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Solid Prefekt
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.03.29 17:01:00 -
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Yeah, Matar needs serious SP and then you are still less then most other races. That means Armor, Shield, T2 Arty, T2 AC, T2 Missiles, T2 Drones, and the ton of supporting skills required for all of the above. Just the T2 Heavies/Sentries with supporting skills takes months. Same with proper missiles skills. Training Matar is an uphill battle and even then your ships are no better then other races.
The Typhoon really says it all when it comes to skills requirements for Minmatar. 4 Turret slots, 4 Missile slots, 175 Drone bay, and not enough grid to fit it properly with all T2. Things like dmg mods are a waste as it only benefits 1/3 your weapons and the bonuses are the same.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Lovely Lily yeah minmatar takes serious skill training to use the ships well, and the ships are sexy as hell . that being said the rifter, rupture, hurricane, and maelstrom....
Stopped taking you seriously there.
Quote: munnin is a sweet ass sniper boat. rapier is epic win...
No.
And do you think we take you seriously at all when all you can do is to say things on topics about Autocannons and Tempest topics that are lies everytime?.
The fact is that the thing that really sucks when it's about that is the players.
The problem are ALWAYS between the PC monitor and the chair.
Nothing sucks. It's just you that use the Minmatar ships and projectile weapons wrong.
I use them right, and i love them. Because they are extremely good at what i like to do.
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Traderboz
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:24:00 -
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Quote: I use them right, and i love them. Because they are extremely good at what i like to do.
I.e., 1v1's on SiSi.
Welcome back from the forum ban.
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Shevar
Minmatar Target Practice incorporated
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Solid Prefekt Yeah, Matar needs serious SP and then you are still less then most other races. That means Armor, Shield, T2 Arty, T2 AC, T2 Missiles, T2 Drones, and the ton of supporting skills required for all of the above. Just the T2 Heavies/Sentries with supporting skills takes months. Same with proper missiles skills. Training Matar is an uphill battle and even then your ships are no better then other races.
The Typhoon really says it all when it comes to skills requirements for Minmatar. 4 Turret slots, 4 Missile slots, 175 Drone bay, and not enough grid to fit it properly with all T2. Things like dmg mods are a waste as it only benefits 1/3 your weapons and the bonuses are the same.
The typhoon still is the highest DPS t1 battleship.
But still arties are kinda crap currently (and have been since the HP boost, needs moar alpha and less ROF for PvP tbh). --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs |
NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 29/03/2009 19:32:44
Originally by: Traderboz
Quote: I use them right, and i love them. Because they are extremely good at what i like to do.
I.e., 1v1's on SiSi.
Welcome back from the forum ban.
I'm talking about TQ. Haven't you seen our Killboard?, the Tempest is almost as popular as the Megathron heh.
EDIT: Link for proof: http://kills.forceofevil.co.uk/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=37&view=ships_weapons
Even the projectile weapons there at the link is more used than Rails lol.
Now that's because we have a PVP style that makes the Tempest superb in PVP for us.
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Clueless Alt
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:54:00 -
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Vestige of the past + hope for the future. Stou. :F
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EFT Warrior
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Posted - 2009.03.29 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shevar
Originally by: Solid Prefekt Yeah, Matar needs serious SP and then you are still less then most other races. That means Armor, Shield, T2 Arty, T2 AC, T2 Missiles, T2 Drones, and the ton of supporting skills required for all of the above. Just the T2 Heavies/Sentries with supporting skills takes months. Same with proper missiles skills. Training Matar is an uphill battle and even then your ships are no better then other races.
The Typhoon really says it all when it comes to skills requirements for Minmatar. 4 Turret slots, 4 Missile slots, 175 Drone bay, and not enough grid to fit it properly with all T2. Things like dmg mods are a waste as it only benefits 1/3 your weapons and the bonuses are the same.
The typhoon still is the highest DPS t1 battleship.
But still arties are kinda crap currently (and have been since the HP boost, needs moar alpha and less ROF for PvP tbh).
The highest t2 damage, yes, but it's only marginally better than the rest of the ships, and really I've had a hard time finding a spot for the phoon that the other tiers couldn't fill better; Maelstrom is a much better AC boat, does more damage and sports a better tank and even though it's a flying brick it moves faster than a plated typhoon. The tempest is a better sniper because mid range sniping with cruise missiles and sentries doesn't work too well in practice. The use I've found for it is up close with remote reps and neuts, and I don't want to train 3 weapon types just to do it as well as the other races. For a better example see the Naglfar.
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Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 20:00:00 -
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stop whining , start shooting , generally works. they stole my sig :'( |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2009.03.29 21:20:00 -
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Given the choice between flying one race very well and flying multiple races in a mediocre fashion I go with the former alternative. I picked Minmatar. I really like it for my play style. When I started the game Gallente were uber with Minmatar right behind them and Amarr were screaming for a boost. Now Amarr are on top. You can go train for them if you want. But by the time you get to a point where you're actually good don't be surprised if Minmatar or Gallente get a boost. That's the nature of the beast. Until then I'll do just fine in my Minmatard ships.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.29 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
And do you think we take you seriously at all when all you can do is to say things on topics about Autocannons and Tempest topics that are lies everytime?.
Welcome back.
Quote: The fact is that the thing that really sucks when it's about that is the players.
Funny. When asked, most players seem to suggest that amarr is superior to the other races. Therefore, the amarr pilots must be more skilled than other races' pilots.
Quote: Nothing sucks.
So all races are completely equal?
Quote: It's just you that use the Minmatar ships and projectile weapons wrong.
You never did tell me how to use them correctly, or what I was obviously doing wrong (Though you've never seen me fly... funny). Enlighten me.
Quote: I use them right, and i love them. Because they are extremely good at what i like to do.
Yeah, they are very good at what you: failing.
Good day sir.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 29/03/2009 23:15:15
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: NightmareX Nothing sucks.
So all races are completely equal?
Do they need to have equal stats then?.
TBH, a Tempest can be much much better at something than one another BS can be, even when the stats on the Tempest is not that good. It all depends on how you play EVE.
Going after the who have the best stats and then rate how good a ship / weapon is are something we are calling for EFT warriors.
Every ships in EVE works good whatever reason, as long you use them 100% right.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 29/03/2009 23:15:15
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: NightmareX Nothing sucks.
So all races are completely equal?
Do they need to have equal stats then?.
TBH, a Tempest can be much much better at something than one another BS can be, even when the stats on the Tempest is not that good. It all depends on how you play EVE.
Going after the who have the best stats and then rate how good a ship / weapon is are something we are calling for EFT warriors.
Every ships in EVE works good whatever reason, as long you use them 100% right.
Idealy yes, but some ship just plain sucks :).
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Do they need to have equal stats then?.
No, each race needs to have pros and cons that balance out to each other. At the moment, they don't.
Quote: TBH, a Tempest can be much much better at something than one another BS can be, even when the stats on the Tempest is not that good. It all depends on how you play EVE.
Intentionally vague? Great strategy.
Quote: Going after the stats and then rate how good a BS is are something we are calling for EFT warriors.
No, it's called looking at a ship's stats. It shows the ship's capabilities - every single one of them.
Quote: Every ships in EVE works good whatever reason, as long you use them 100% right.
No.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 29/03/2009 23:15:15
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: NightmareX Nothing sucks.
So all races are completely equal?
Do they need to have equal stats then?.
TBH, a Tempest can be much much better at something than one another BS can be, even when the stats on the Tempest is not that good. It all depends on how you play EVE.
Going after the who have the best stats and then rate how good a ship / weapon is are something we are calling for EFT warriors.
Every ships in EVE works good whatever reason, as long you use them 100% right.
Idealy yes, but some ship just plain sucks :).
So then i can say, omg i was using a geddon and couldn't hit anything that was orbiting me at 2.5 km, they was outtracking me.
Geddon sucks.
I'm doin it right?.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 29/03/2009 23:25:23
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: NightmareX Do they need to have equal stats then?.
No, each race needs to have pros and cons that balance out to each other. At the moment, they don't.
Quote: TBH, a Tempest can be much much better at something than one another BS can be, even when the stats on the Tempest is not that good. It all depends on how you play EVE.
Intentionally vague? Great strategy.
Quote: Going after the stats and then rate how good a BS is are something we are calling for EFT warriors.
No, it's called looking at a ship's stats. It shows the ship's capabilities - every single one of them.
Quote: Every ships in EVE works good whatever reason, as long you use them 100% right.
No.
So, explain to me why the Tempest is the 2nd most used ship here: http://kills.forceofevil.co.uk/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=37&view=ships_weapons
And explain to me why Artilleries are the most used BS sized weapons there to?.
Yes, Tempest and Projectiles really sucks and we must be doing some thing very wrong with the Tempest.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX So, explain to me why the Tempest is the 2nd most used ship here: http://kills.forceofevil.co.uk/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=37&view=ships_weapons
It's popular.
Quote: And explain to me why Artilleries are the most used BS sized weapons there to?.
Your corp fails? I don't know honestly, artillery are unquestionably the worst weapon system in game.
Quote: Yes, Tempest and Projectiles really sucks and we must be doing some things very wrong with the Tempest.
We would clearly not use the ship with our PVP style if the ship had sucked. Right?.
I'm not saying it's unpopular, but it's not good. Anybody can gatecamp in a handful of tempests and kill anything that comes through the other side.
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: NightmareX So, explain to me why the Tempest is the 2nd most used ship here: http://kills.forceofevil.co.uk/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=37&view=ships_weapons
It's popular.
Quote: And explain to me why Artilleries are the most used BS sized weapons there to?.
Your corp fails? I don't know honestly, artillery are unquestionably the worst weapon system in game.
Quote: Yes, Tempest and Projectiles really sucks and we must be doing some things very wrong with the Tempest.
We would clearly not use the ship with our PVP style if the ship had sucked. Right?.
I'm not saying it's unpopular, but it's not good. Anybody can gatecamp in a handful of tempests and kill anything that comes through the other side.
Nice explanation there hahaha.
Why do you think it's popular?. It's not popular because it sucks.
No our alliance doesn't fail at how we do our PVP.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.30 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Nice explanation there hahaha.
Something akin to "you don't fly your ship correctly", amirite? I'm sure there's a deeper cause, but I'm not a psychologist.
Quote: Why do you think it's popular?. It's not popular because it sucks.
No, but it's not popular because it's good either. Maybe your pilots like to get final blows and top of the killmail while gate camping?
Just imagine if your corp could fly decent ships correctly
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NightmareX
Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.30 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: NightmareX Nice explanation there hahaha.
Something akin to "you don't fly your ship correctly", amirite? I'm sure there's a deeper cause, but I'm not a psychologist.
Quote: Why do you think it's popular?. It's not popular because it sucks.
No, but it's not popular because it's good either. Maybe your pilots like to get final blows and top of the killmail while gate camping?
Just imagine if your corp could fly decent ships correctly
It's popular because it's very good for what PVP style we have.
Still, if an Apoc / Abaddon had been better than the Tempest on what we are doing, we would use an Apoc / Abaddon then. But no, an Apoc / Abaddon is not even near to be as good as the Tempest is for what we are doing in PVP.
So, can you explain why a whole alliance find the Tempest to be very good at what we are doing?. Oooooooooooooooor wait a sec.
You don't know why.
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