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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 01:57:00 -
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The point is to determine which are the most effective means of building a corporate reputation via notoriety and what type of pirate* to hire.
After researching this forum in order to form a business plan, I am attempting to narrow the focus of probable corporate efforts.
The two goals are notoriety, profitability and an enticing work/play environment. Scamming it its many glorious facets will not be part of the corp activities unless the corp is the victim of said scamming.
Thank you for all replies.
Disclaimer: This is in no way an anthropological or social engineering experiment and has nothing to do with Kohlberg's Stages of Moral Development.
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SK PIMPALICIOUS
Notoriety Holdings Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:09:00 -
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me, ofc.
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:13:00 -
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eve-university ---- People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: SK PIMPALICIOUS me, ofc.
Perhaps others would care to comment with regards to their knowledge of you, your corp, your alliance and your killboard stats.
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Mou'adib
Gallente Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Queue K'Umber
Originally by: SK PIMPALICIOUS me, ofc.
Perhaps others would care to comment with regards to their knowledge of you, your corp, your alliance and your killboard stats.
The United
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/ranking.php?type=corp
nuff said
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Jim GNARKILL
Gnarkill INC
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mou'adib
Originally by: Queue K'Umber
Originally by: SK PIMPALICIOUS me, ofc.
Perhaps others would care to comment with regards to their knowledge of you, your corp, your alliance and your killboard stats.
The United
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/ranking.php?type=corp
nuff said
did you actually look at the stats? sure the kills are there, but negative efficiancy
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mou'adib
Originally by: Queue K'Umber
Originally by: SK PIMPALICIOUS me, ofc.
Perhaps others would care to comment with regards to their knowledge of you, your corp, your alliance and your killboard stats.
The United
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/ranking.php?type=corp
nuff said
I wish it were possible to capture metrics on the context of a given kill.
Was it a strategic op where friendly losses were acceptable such as a diversion? Sadly, such things are open to manipulation.
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Mou'adib
Gallente Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:35:00 -
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If I love a dread, on BC i lost the full ship in isk which is of course refunded by insurance.
If i loose a frig full of officer loot, the loot shows a marginal isk loss even though its clearly worth a ****load more.
sorry m8 but my prior statement stands
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Jim GNARKILL
Gnarkill INC
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mou'adib If I love a dread, on BC i lost the full ship in isk which is of course refunded by insurance.
If i loose a frig full of officer loot, the loot shows a marginal isk loss even though its clearly worth a ****load more.
sorry m8 but my prior statement stands
its not like its a little its 3 trillion more lost than destroyed
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Jesslyn Daggererux
Gallente SRIUS BISNIS Band of Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:51:00 -
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RAK and its offspring -------------------------
Originally by: Jesslyn Daggererux GREAT CHINESE WALL OF TEXT
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jesslyn Daggererux RAK and its offspring
In the absence of supporting information I shall attempt to C/D.
Thank you.
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ignition SemperFi eve-university
I have been unable to verify that they are actively engaged in piracy as their primary endeavor.
Nice Clint Smith quote in your bio. Thunder Ranch FTW.
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Jim GNARKILL
Gnarkill INC
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jim GNARKILL on 30/03/2009 02:58:30 Genos, The black rabbits, veto
http://genos.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=qsearch&q=genos&w=corp
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jim GNARKILL Genos, The black rabbits, veto
I was unfamiliar with VETO. Thank you.
It is easy to imagine why The Black Rabbits have earned notoriety if their recruiting ad is to be believed.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Queue K'Umber
Originally by: Jim GNARKILL Genos, The black rabbits, veto
I was unfamiliar with VETO. Thank you.
It is easy to imagine why The Black Rabbits have earned notoriety if their recruiting ad is to be believed.

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Silent Sins
Deliciously Vicious
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ignition SemperFi eve-university
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Queue K'Umber
Originally by: Jim GNARKILL Genos, The black rabbits, veto
I was unfamiliar with VETO. Thank you.
It is easy to imagine why The Black Rabbits have earned notoriety if their recruiting ad is to be believed.

I'm going to assume that my lack of familiarity with VETO. is what has shocked you.
Is it possible that they inspire dirty undergarments and hurt feelings in real life to players other than noobs and hulkamaniacs?
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Mou'adib
Gallente Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jim GNARKILL
Originally by: Mou'adib If I love a dread, on BC i lost the full ship in isk which is of course refunded by insurance.
If i loose a frig full of officer loot, the loot shows a marginal isk loss even though its clearly worth a ****load more.
sorry m8 but my prior statement stands
its not like its a little its 3 trillion more lost than destroyed
seriously m8 look at the actually kill stats the only ship which they have lost more then they have killed is dreads
k / d Battleships 2919/652 battlecruiser 3506/221 black ops 7/2 carriers 27/13 dreads 8/16 only exception exhumers 241/0 marauder 13/6 combat recons 146/34 force recons 214/59 hacs 532/73 cruisers 5913/78 command ships 203/90 freighters 69/0 frigs 13355/19 
I mean seriously. you would have us beleive that they kill that much more in all ship yet they've lost more isk, not likely
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plastastic
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:21:00 -
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probably the best pirate corps of all time :VETO, Muffin factory, Privateers, Idle Empire
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jesslyn Daggererux RAK and its offspring
Google is coming up with player names with apostrophes.
RAK Associates C/D?
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Jim GNARKILL
Gnarkill INC
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mou'adib
Originally by: Jim GNARKILL
Originally by: Mou'adib If I love a dread, on BC i lost the full ship in isk which is of course refunded by insurance.
If i loose a frig full of officer loot, the loot shows a marginal isk loss even though its clearly worth a ****load more.
sorry m8 but my prior statement stands
its not like its a little its 3 trillion more lost than destroyed
seriously m8 look at the actually kill stats the only ship which they have lost more then they have killed is dreads
k / d Battleships 2919/652 battlecruiser 3506/221 black ops 7/2 carriers 27/13 dreads 8/16 only exception exhumers 241/0 marauder 13/6 combat recons 146/34 force recons 214/59 hacs 532/73 cruisers 5913/78 command ships 203/90 freighters 69/0 frigs 13355/19 
I mean seriously. you would have us beleive that they kill that much more in all ship yet they've lost more isk, not likely
werent sayin they arent good at what they do, just say that purley high amounts of kills isnt the only way to measure how good they are, Say for examply the 10 best active PVPers made a corp and say they had 1000 kills in their first month, but 100 other 100 man corps had 2000 kills in the same month. Thus ranking the 10 man corp 101st, even though its hypothetically made up of the 10 best.
Those stats are all well and good, but they dont show a kills vs members perspective, and they are purley subjective to the readers own opinion.
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Silent Sins
Deliciously Vicious
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:23:00 -
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guys the answer is locsas ------------------------------ ------------------------------
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Mou'adib
Gallente Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: plastastic probably the best pirate corps of all time :VETO, Muffin factory, Privateers, Idle Empire
Privateers are not pirates. they don't act anything like a pirate corp. The original idea of privs was awsome, i will not deny this. But living in highsec and running wardecs has nothing to do with being an outlaw.
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Capt Lothar
End Game.
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jim GNARKILL
Originally by: Mou'adib
Originally by: Queue K'Umber
Originally by: SK PIMPALICIOUS me, ofc.
Perhaps others would care to comment with regards to their knowledge of you, your corp, your alliance and your killboard stats.
The United
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/ranking.php?type=corp
nuff said
did you actually look at the stats? sure the kills are there, but negative efficiancy
I believe some fake mails were posted that listed a bunch of nyx blueprints lost by the united.
The united pwn your face, and minus one douchebag, are a great bunch of guys.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Queue K'Umber
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Queue K'Umber
Originally by: Jim GNARKILL Genos, The black rabbits, veto
I was unfamiliar with VETO. Thank you.
It is easy to imagine why The Black Rabbits have earned notoriety if their recruiting ad is to be believed.

I'm going to assume that my lack of familiarity with VETO. is what has shocked you.
Is it possible that they inspire dirty undergarments and hurt feelings in real life to players other than noobs and hulkamaniacs?
Yes.. That was exactly what the shock was about. The ONLY time I have taken a wardec threat seriously was when they said they had 2 weeks booked with VETO for another target and they could easily just change it to me. (ok, for the first 30 mins of the convo I didnt believe them, but the more i tried to extract tears the more I realized they actually did have a VETO contract on someone else).
Best way to play against them is just to not log your whole corp in for a few weeks (or have replacement underpants on call).
Yes, people will tell you that their stats suck, or they aren't the VETO they used to be, but the VETO I remember had the attitude of just killing you, your family, your friends and anyone that happened to be close by no matter the cost. So even if they are only a part of that now its still terrifying.
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Mou'adib
Gallente Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2009.03.30 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jim GNARKILL
Originally by: Mou'adib
Originally by: Jim GNARKILL
Originally by: Mou'adib If I love a dread, on BC i lost the full ship in isk which is of course refunded by insurance.
If i loose a frig full of officer loot, the loot shows a marginal isk loss even though its clearly worth a ****load more.
sorry m8 but my prior statement stands
its not like its a little its 3 trillion more lost than destroyed
seriously m8 look at the actually kill stats the only ship which they have lost more then they have killed is dreads
k / d Battleships 2919/652 battlecruiser 3506/221 black ops 7/2 carriers 27/13 dreads 8/16 only exception exhumers 241/0 marauder 13/6 combat recons 146/34 force recons 214/59 hacs 532/73 cruisers 5913/78 command ships 203/90 freighters 69/0 frigs 13355/19 
I mean seriously. you would have us beleive that they kill that much more in all ship yet they've lost more isk, not likely
werent sayin they arent good at what they do, just say that purley high amounts of kills isnt the only way to measure how good they are, Say for examply the 10 best active PVPers made a corp and say they had 1000 kills in their first month, but 100 other 100 man corps had 2000 kills in the same month. Thus ranking the 10 man corp 101st, even though its hypothetically made up of the 10 best.
Those stats are all well and good, but they dont show a kills vs members perspective, and they are purley subjective to the readers own opinion.
this is where you are mixing things up this isn't a giant group of pirates This is a small pirate corp who manages to get more kills them major 0.0 alliances.
therefore the best pirate corp in eve.
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plastastic
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Posted - 2009.03.30 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mou'adib
Originally by: plastastic probably the best pirate corps of all time :VETO, Muffin factory, Privateers, Idle Empire
Privateers are not pirates. they don't act anything like a pirate corp. The original idea of privs was awsome, i will not deny this. But living in highsec and running wardecs has nothing to do with being an outlaw.
was going off the old idea wich did make the famous. Turning highsec into 0.0 until game mechanics changed was a great idea and what gains them the outlaw notoriety.
i guess you can also add zombies to the list for the stunts they pulled.
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Smirna Auff
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Posted - 2009.03.30 04:16:00 -
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Person A kills 10 BSes in a 10v10 RR BS fleet. BattleClinic Points = 10*10 = 100 Person B kills a newbie with a smartbomb on a gate. BattleClinic Points = 1*100 = 100 Person C kills 10 newbies with a smartbomb on a gate. BattleClinic Points = 10*100 = 1000
B and C have more BattleClinic points. But at the end of the day, which person deserves your fear and respect?
In the interest of full disclosure, B and C are the united.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.03.30 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Smirna Auff Person A kills 10 BSes in a 10v10 RR BS fleet. BattleClinic Points = 10*10 = 100 Person B kills a newbie with a smartbomb on a gate. BattleClinic Points = 1*100 = 100 Person C kills 10 newbies with a smartbomb on a gate. BattleClinic Points = 10*100 = 1000
B and C have more BattleClinic points. But at the end of the day, which person deserves your fear and respect?
In the interest of full disclosure, B and C are the united.
C obviously.. Smartbombing gates is leet. (even taking in to account they are in united..)
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2009.03.30 04:27:00 -
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At the risk of inflicting a comedy kill on an actual productive discussion I must tend to an issue more unpleasant than death by lag.
It has been suggested to me privately that Rancer Defense League be considered.
Rancer Defense League will not be considered.
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