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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:05:00 -
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Really who gives a **** about RP?
for example I am Amarrian. Am I supposed to blow up Gallente and Minmatar then let survive Caldari and Amarr? Obviously very little to no one will act like this.
what if I meet a new friend and he happens to be Minmatar? should I stop talking to him?
People fly every race ships, travel to all the systems no matter what sov is, and interact with everyone else. Activities are also the same for everyone (pvp, industry, trading...)
Now attributes are not a difference either.
And finally ask around local chat "where are u from guys" 99% of players will answer their real life location. I mean too little will say "Hello I am from Todaki and was born in 20745". lmao.
Seriously who role plays? Is it worth, or funny? 
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Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:10:00 -
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role play is fun sometimes lol 
visit my blog for my adventures
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:12:00 -
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Thank you for your deep and insightful post. You clearly have a very good understanding of the issue at hand.
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minerboob
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: minerboob on 31/03/2009 00:17:45
Eve is an RPG?
Take a look at the roleplaying channel. Crickets make the largest sound.
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:14:00 -
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People take enjoyment from the game in a lot of different ways, RP is one of them.
Some people think mining is a crap way to play the game, some thing PvP is, some thing Production is, some think RP is, some think Research is, some think Exploration is.
It's a matter of personal preference
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Ironnight
Caldari
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:17:00 -
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Ushra'Khan and Curatores Veritatis Alliance do roleplay as far as I know, and I am pretty sure they have fun.
They're like 'oh **** son, its a trap *Doomsday* |
Minerva IV
Caldari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:26:00 -
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Actually you RP everytime you load up the game, your not really a ebil pirate/trader/miner whatever your flavor is. Now i assume you actually ment to spout some BS about people who RP to the extent that they play their chars as if they really were in a pod in New Eden, there are plenty of them and plenty of others who RP to a lesser extent as mentioned above.
Sorry fail troll is fail.......
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:41:00 -
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In EVE, RP doesn't mean adhering solidly to racial alignments (which contradicts the whole 'capsuleers forming their own empires' thing), it just means playing the game.
Typing and emoting in ye olde english in other games is just to make up for the dire lack of player interaction, a problem not found in EVE.
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Neo Omni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.31 00:46:00 -
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Role playing is hard because EVE makes it easy to be friendly to everyone and be enemies with everyone.
There is more of a possibility that a Gallente will kill another Gallente or Caldari another Caldari in low-sec, than of the expected Gallente/Caldari hostilities.
Eve is all about greed, not factions or war. There is no penalty for killing your own, and isk making ventures are plentiful with the "enemy."
If RP is to really have some meat in it, these blurred boundaries will have to be clearly defined.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.31 01:57:00 -
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RP is what you make of it, really.
And by the way (regarding some of the OP's points) choice of your RP path is fairly independant of birth race, racial ship type, etc. While I play a Matari freedom fighter, I rarely fly Matari ships. And my fellow freedom fighters include members of all races, including heretical Amarrians who have turned their backs on the race they were brought up amongst baack when they were merely mortal.
For me, the biggest draw of the RP lifestyle in EVE is that I find it far more interesting and satisfying to hunt down targets because they contributed to slavery than to roam around looking for non-blue boxes to shoot, then type 'gf' after ganking them.
Views on the matter vary.
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Becq Starforged
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Mr Reeth
Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.03.31 02:19:00 -
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 Originally by: minerboob
Edited by: minerboob on 31/03/2009 00:17:45
Eve is an RPG?
Take a look at the roleplaying channel. Crickets make the largest sound.
The RP channels are usually clear of RP because of ISK spammers and people like the OP stopping by to ruin it for everyone. RPers mostly stick to RPing in places jackasses like the OP can't get to, IGS, corp cat etc.
And remember, this isn't WoW or Everquest. Most RP corps are also PvP corps and can whoop your ass. Don't think you can fly up to a UK fleet or a CVA fleet, start calling them sissy RPers and get away with your ship intact. |
Cipher7
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Posted - 2009.03.31 02:36:00 -
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Wait I thought RP was Research and Production.
wtf
No wonder I never saw Ushra'Khan do mining ops.
kidding kidding
If you're Amarrian and make a Minmatar friend, no you don't stop talking to them. You enslave them, they become Ammatar and become your wingman.
By the way you could have avoided typing out that whole paragraph. Just say "LOLRP" like everyone else does.
Us RP gimps will go back to our nerdery now and farm more cash for our LOLNidhogger.
You cool kids go train up Gallente capitals.
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Vincent Gaines
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2009.03.31 02:45:00 -
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You RP whenever you play. That's what a sandbox game is.
"Capsuleers" are gods. Above the empiracal conflicts.
So what you do is whatever you want.
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James Malice
Gallente
Legion Of Mad Cats
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Posted - 2009.03.31 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: James Malice on 31/03/2009 02:53:02
RP only worked if you can actualy speak the lingo of the rest of the players. Work on your grammar a bit. :D
Originally by: MooKids
I like them, I have an elite rating in HULL TANKING! That is like saying I can block punches with my face.
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minerboob
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.03.31 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: minerboob
Edited by: minerboob on 31/03/2009 00:17:45
Eve is an RPG?
Take a look at the roleplaying channel. Crickets make the largest sound.
The RP channels are usually clear of RP because of ISK spammers and people like the OP stopping by to ruin it for everyone. RPers mostly stick to RPing in places jackasses like the OP can't get to, IGS, corp cat etc.
And remember, this isn't WoW or Everquest. Most RP corps are also PvP corps and can whoop your ass. Don't think you can fly up to a UK fleet or a CVA fleet, start calling them sissy RPers and get away with your ship intact.
When was this? I dont even see isk spammers in there. I like talking to myself in there. RP with myself. Oh and btw calling this a RPG just because your a pilot of a startship is weak. Its like saying counter strike is an RPG because im pretending to be a counter terrorist. Silly.
You are talking about select corps. 90+% of pod pilots could care less about their charecter backround. Also, yes yes I can call them sissys in highsec :)
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.03.31 03:16:00 -
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Capsuleers aren't part of their factions (unless they're in a militia). We're free to associate with whoever we want. If "role-playing" to you is just acting like you don't like <insert_enemy_here>, then you don't understand role-playing at all.
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Micia
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.31 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
Seriously who role plays? Is it worth, or funny?
If you like it, do it. If you think it's silly, don't do it. Simple as that. 
It's a bit of a unique situation in EVE, with the single-world server. No dedicated separate shard for the RP'ers, unlike most other mmorpgs. That means an encounter of some kind with some of those crazy make-believe-spaceship-pilots, at some point. 
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Major Deviant
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Posted - 2009.03.31 05:23:00 -
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The only thing I would wish this game would do to help RPers and enhance imersion is a naming policy and random name generation if you have no idea how to name your toon.
No matter how I might try to immmerse myself in this universe, the moment I see a felow capsuleer named lol23, pawnt4567, slfhlksh or podmepls etc I just wince.
OP's name fits in the same category.
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The AEther
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:44:00 -
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Whenever you refer to what your character is doing by saying "I" you are role playing. For example, when you say "I'm going to grab some drones and undock in my Dominix" you are effectively assuming the role of a Dominix pilot. It is just that in EVE you're rping people living in future which is very easy to do and you can just act and speak naturally, throwing EVE lingo in here and there.
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Wacktopia
Infinity Miners Union
Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:55:00 -
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"Hello my name is Wacktopia from The Forge region, I like to smoke death-sticks and play space-poker while I'm not out walking my pet wulthrong. Want to come over and watch z-disc movies from the 2038s and have dinner, which will be provided directly through your skin from your lycra-clad body suit?"
Mining is a role.
Industrialism is a role.
Politician is a role.
Pirate is a role.
CEO is a role.
Carebear is a role.
Research is a role.
Freighting is a role.
Trading is a role.
Bounty Hunting is a role.
Scamming and Theiving are roles.
Providing Escrow is a role.
Ratting, looting, salvaging, contruction, sobtage, spying, scouting are all roles.
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:00:00 -
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Basically the only kind of rp nearly everyone in eve shares is hating the caldari. (yes, yes i know...)
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Originally by: Jasper Dark
I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Firestar Drive Yards
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
Really who gives a **** about RP?
for example I am Amarrian. Am I supposed to blow up Gallente and Minmatar then let survive Caldari and Amarr? Obviously very little to no one will act like this.
what if I meet a new friend and he happens to be Minmatar? should I stop talking to him?
People fly every race ships, travel to all the systems no matter what sov is, and interact with everyone else. Activities are also the same for everyone (pvp, industry, trading...)
Now attributes are not a difference either.
And finally ask around local chat "where are u from guys" 99% of players will answer their real life location. I mean too little will say "Hello I am from Todaki and was born in 20745". lmao.
Seriously who role plays? Is it worth, or funny?
Your deep, comlex and subtle understanding of the whole range of possible human interactions, friendships, loyalties and conflicts astounds me.
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Firestar Drive Yards
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Role playing is hard because EVE makes it easy to be friendly to everyone and be enemies with everyone.
There is more of a possibility that a Gallente will kill another Gallente or Caldari another Caldari in low-sec, than of the expected Gallente/Caldari hostilities.
Eve is all about greed, not factions or war. There is no penalty for killing your own, and isk making ventures are plentiful with the "enemy."
If RP is to really have some meat in it, these blurred boundaries will have to be clearly defined.
Actually those blurred boundaries are where the interest should lie... Why should every Amarrian's loyalty be solely to their god? The Corporations and Alliances are vastly more important to 99.9% of players and by extension their characters - who are more interested in ISK and glory.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
Really who gives a **** about RP?
for example I am Amarrian. Am I supposed to blow up Gallente and Minmatar then let survive Caldari and Amarr? Obviously very little to no one will act like this.
That's how I usually act.
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what if I meet a new friend and he happens to be Minmatar? should I stop talking to him?
It works well enough for me.
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People fly every race ships, travel to all the systems no matter what sov is, and interact with everyone else. Activities are also the same for everyone (pvp, industry, trading...)
PIE only fly Amarrian ships.
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Now attributes are not a difference either.
Attribute repsecs were a big mistake in my opinion, and the lack of variety between bloodlines destroys a lot of the game's flavour in my view.
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And finally ask around local chat "where are u from guys" 99% of players will answer their real life location. I mean too little will say "Hello I am from Todaki and was born in 20745". lmao.
Seriously who role plays? Is it worth, or funny?
I RP, and yes, it is both worthwhile and good fun
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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MooKids
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:07:00 -
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The great thing is you can roleplay and still act normal. No need to have a stupid Scottish accent (not saying the Scottish are stupid, just the bad attempts people make at accents) or talk with "thee"s and "thou"s.
Of course if you saw the 2008 Fanfest video, the CVA guy got into character for that presentation.
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Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Confederated Armed Traders
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
The great thing is you can roleplay and still act normal. No need to have a stupid Scottish accent (not saying the Scottish are stupid, just the bad attempts people make at accents) or talk with "thee"s and "thou"s.
Of course if you saw the 2008 Fanfest video, the CVA guy got into character for that presentation.
Which mind you, was pure awesome.
But yeah, I RP a bit.
But by the same token I do alot of stuff that I ignore my RP side and just play the because I enjoy it.
RP is just a bit of spice added to the mix to make the winsauce of eve a tiny bit more tasty.
Unless you don't like RP.
In which case.
Epic Lulz watching RP'ers in local.
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
:facepalm:
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Fi Vantage
Minmatar
New Ligion
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:17:00 -
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Eve is great for roleplaying. You can go around scamming people and smacktalking in local about the other guy's corp and still be roleplaying.
The only thing that is really required to roleplay in eve is to not talk about real life and to remember you're in a spaceship.
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Haramir Haleths
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:20:00 -
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You cannot Roleplay in EvE cause when u bump another ship there is no physically damage .....
That really SUCKS CCP
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:20:00 -
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RP?
I'm a freedom fighter in RL.
And to whoever said EVE is all about greed - to you maybe. Personally I couldn't give a rats arse about isk, I don't play gamnes to 'get rich'.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: Alexeph Stoekai on 31/03/2009 12:22:45
Originally by: minerboob
could care less
I might start placing bounties on people who write that.
On Topic:
As has been said, RP is all about what you make of it. EVE is a very simple game to Roleplay in because almost everything your character does can be explained in-character, something very few other games can boast with.
Now, if you consider RP to be "lol, i haet ur race, so i pod u, k?", I feel sorry to my soul (a soul I have irrevocably stained by writing that mockery of a sentence). RP is about understanding the motivations of your character and then entering that mindset to apply it on social interactions.
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Stitcher
Caldari
ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
Really who gives a **** about RP?
o/
I do! Why? because it's massively more intricate and complex than you seem to think it is.
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Primnproper
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Posted - 2009.03.31 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
for example I am Amarrian. ...
what if I meet a new friend and he happens to be Minmatar? should I stop talking to him?]
Be in-character, casually rasist to him (as long as he doesn't get offended irl anyway)
Nothing too real or close to the bone or anything...
Just calling him slave all the time,
Commenting on the poor construction of his ships
And occasionally telling him that his race would have faired much better if they'd just welcomed their new Amarr overlords like the enlightened Ammatar or Ni-Kunni did.
I found these sorts of things made it more fun chatting with my minny corp mates and they even started to respond with similar comments themselves.
Of course all of this is only for use with people who aren't going to take it badly so use at your own risk.
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Originally by: Graveyard Tan
I call bull**** and troll. If you are deaf, how are you even able to read this or type replies?
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Andrea Tesla
Caldari
Crazy Clone Warriors of Disaster
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Posted - 2009.03.31 13:46:00 -
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Am I supposed to blow up Gallente and Minmatar then let survive Caldari and Amarr?
Well, not like a dogma, or as if your Amarrian God did tell you, but I (being Caldari) usually hate Gallente by definition for their crimes that led to the foul annexation of Caldari Prime. I do not care, if some Gallente was born after the war. The whole race is liable for the actions of the Gallente during the war.
Minmatar are by default slaves or runaway slaves. Goods to make profit of.
Works pretty well for me... Of course, the actions of the individual can change the initial reaction, but just like every NPC-Gallente does hate me by default, even without ever having known me, I do hate every Gallente player by default, until something happens, that changes my mind.
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People fly every race ships, travel to all the systems no matter what sov is, and interact with everyone else.
- I never ever fly Gallente ships. I even refused to accept an offer of a Rattlesnake for 1 ISK, as I refuse to place my pod into gallente technology. If you ever catch me flying a galente ship, you may demand my whole wallet and assets.
- I avoid to travel to Gallente Space, whenever possible. If I go there, it would be to look for trouble.
- I frequently send a little startup ISKies to new pod-pilots coming from a fictional "Caldari Tesla fonds for new pilots", which by its constitution does not pay any money to Gallente.
- When I host trivia games on german channel, usually only new pilots are eligible to win a price.. and gallente are automatically excluded from winning.
It is not much, but it is a RP-context...
In general in MMOGs (and I played a lot), you cannot wait for RP to bite you in the rear... If you do it, it will come.
Play your role, as you see fit, and you will automatically attract others to react to your play style.
AT
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Kir'ian
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.03.31 14:51:00 -
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I think a lot of players who read the backstory and cronicles do roleplay to an extent. Its hard not to be influenced by that stuff. Being Minmatar, I don't associate with Amarr. I don't like docking in the station that are run by Amarrian corporations. I'm not really fond of Caldari much either, although I don't mind docking at their stations or taking a few of their missions... Its the pilots in Caldari space that drive me nuts. The Gallente are just friggin poof'tas. But I suppose they don't harm anyone... and the Minmatar... oh wait.. I am Minmatar... AND PROUD OF IT!
So... To an extent... I role play. More with my actions then my speech in corp or local.
Unless you insult Minnie ships or something like that!
/carebearstare
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Anabella Rella
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.03.31 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Anabella Rella on 31/03/2009 16:59:59
Although I know I shouldn't I'll feed the troll.
I'm a pragmatic RPer so I fly Caldari as well as Minmatar ships. It's simply a matter of picking the appropriate tool for the job at hand. As a Republic loyalist I work for the benefit of the Republic and the Matari people, so I'm opposed to the philosophies of the Amarr (and to some extent their Caldari allies) but not necessarily at odds with individual pilots.
We have Caldari and Gallente in our corp and we all get along well because we work together and know each other as individuals. We have differing backgrounds, motivations and opinions certainly, but as another poster pointed out we're demigods and generally above the petty squabbles of the masses. We do what we do for our own reasons. We're a breed apart and act accordingly for the most part.
As to the larger question of RP and who cares I think others have already answered that better than I could.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
The great thing is you can roleplay and still act normal. No need to have a stupid Scottish accent (not saying the Scottish are stupid, just the bad attempts people make at accents) or talk with "thee"s and "thou"s.
People who think talking funny is role-playing are bad role-players anyway.
I agree with what (I think) you're saying, though. EVE is mostly unique in that everything you do in-game has a in-world/in-character representation. Everything is explained. So if you were going to be a pirate or a trader, you'd pretty much do the same things you normally do as far as gameplay.
Compare to Warhammer Online or most other MMOs, and there's a lot of game-play things you have to ignore or come up with some weird explanation for--coming back to life after death, instantly moving across the world, communicating instantly over vast distances, logging off, etc. In Eve all that sort of thing is explained. This is why "role-playing" in most MMOs is a joke--RPers play the game like anyone else, the only difference is that they hang out in taverns or wherever every so often and talk funny. This is bad role-playing.
So to me, it's easy to role-play in Eve if you want to. You just need an in-character name and come up with a personality for your character and just behave as they would and--ta-da!--you're role-playing.
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Korerin Mayul
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:59:00 -
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id love to do more RP, there has been so much effort expended on the backstory, it seems a shame just to leave it as wallpaper, its just getting involved with it thats trickey.
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