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Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.04.03 08:16:00 -
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Some of my friends asked me "The widow can warp cloaked right ?"
And i said -No
Then they said "Woow, then it must suck ! , i would never train for one"
Common sense indicates that Black ops cloaking should be no different than force recons have.
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Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.04.03 08:37:00 -
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It was a simple summary of at least 50 people i have talked to who canceled their blackops trainings just because blackops were not able to fly warp cloaked. And the one's who trained blackops dont even undock with it.
Of course , if the blackops had covert ops cloaking, then many* people would train it and then we would have blackops online.
Except you are missing one very tiny little detail , nobody can solo with these ships and they are very easy to kill . They lock slow , they would still lock as slow as they are atm if ccp decided to have give them CC. Also they are slumbering slow boats and with battlecruiser specs , only costing 20x more ! With no insurance.
So what would you have ? Only a very few handful of people would fly them , because the rest would still either reject to undock or die horibly losing a fortune and not being able to field any other for months. There is your balance.
The ship is already very weak/slow/dumb .
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Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.04.03 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Overbrain on 03/04/2009 09:17:10
I sense anger and totaly flawed will to find something wrong in my arguments . But what i see is total fail lol.
When i said , if ccp have gave them COC and they would still have slow lock time .
Lets see , pump some more blood into your brain and then you will understand.
IF* they had COC, then ccp would give them scan res penalty on top* of that . Get it ?
These people just cant understand one thing . I see this everywhere. When you ask for a ship to gain an ability, you dont necessarily mean that the ship should gain that ability without losing anything in return or be subject to balance.
We ask for COC on Blackops because the ship's name and the overall need for "covert operations" in eve , "calls" for it .
Eve needed a stronger/slower force recon which could penetrate deep into so called safe* zones in 0.0 . And we got it, well not quite .
Ever wondered why blackops required level(4) cloaking skill ? Which is the same requirement for COC . NOW you are thinking..
Edit: typos
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Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.04.03 09:27:00 -
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Not quite, im merely reminding the hundreds of posts that were spoken before and after blackops came out . What is obvious in those words need not to be explained in detail in favor of a "new guy" who is just finding more about blackops.
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Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.04.03 10:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Overbrain
IF* they had COC, then ccp would give them scan res penalty on top* of that . Get it ?
Edit: typos
First part of sentence: "IF* they had COC"
Second part of sentence: " then ccp would give -->them<--"
So "them" in the second sentence points to "they" in the first sentence, which is the ship itself , not the COC .
Oh my god , are you still going to elementary school or what.
Study your lessons my son , learn to read.
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Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.04.30 09:44:00 -
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This thread is dropped out of being sticky . This will be the last buff blackops will ever get.
Look up for a new blackops ship soon to be introduced , probably t3 chasis after t3 battlecruisers are introduced.
There is always room for making people train more skills .
I have invested 1 year into this ship from being pure amarr to training caldari up to chimera skills along with widow(blackops) . What is got is 3 nerfs and another one soon to come . Missile nerf + shield tank nerf(painters) + ecm nerf , and ecm drones / ecm mechanics itself is on the nerf table atm. Like the ship was overpowered or something , and it only got a locking speed increase which was very good .
But the summary of buffs and nerfs now is that nobody smart would fly these ships in actual combat if they are not ridiciluously rich .
I bought this ship , fitted it and can fly it , but it wont ever leave the station except in empire space killing belt frigates. I guess this was intended. From what i understand , investing billions into t1 ships and skills give you 500 times more efficiency than you would have with trying to make blackops useful . You can die countless of times and still not care, while the effect will still be sound.
Looking at the big picture , now that stealth bombers are boosted and t3 cloakers are introduced, which are the latest advertisement of eve . Blackops are to only serve them as portal officers and nothing else.
Just as falcons were alts, blackops are soon going to be portal alts , which will also require covert cyno alts .
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Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.05.27 15:44:00 -
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It has sit enough in my station , it was fun watching an expensive and useless luxury ship for a while but no more.
WTS : Widow + My Blackops skills
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Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:33:00 -
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They gave blackops increased sensor strength but now its back to its normal value .
And its not being fixed or even talked about enough , is it a proof that nobody actualy uses these ships except bridging with no need to target anything ?
I dont see any dev replies to this thread .
Does it always have to take months for you devs to fix simple things . |
Overbrain
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Posted - 2009.07.05 12:33:00 -
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Players have proven that they are capable of waiting for years until something is fixed , even after months of steady complaints.
So why should this pose a problem to ccp ?
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