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Thaylor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Thaylor on 24/08/2004 03:42:00
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=103311
I fly in a BS and do agent missions only to have to spend sometimes 10 minutes picking up cargo.
I use a cargo scanner so I don't pick up every can either.
I use a MWD and as long as the container is 9-12km away I can MWD to it and stop fast enough to drag the contents into my cargo hold.
If the contents are less than 9km I have to Approach. I'm lucky that I move at 230m/sec so its not too bad, but I would really like to remove all the 5 Overdrives in my low slots and use some other modules.
I can't use an afterburner because I need the medium slots to recharge my capacitor.
Anyhow, I think the problem could be solved in a couple of ways:
1. Increase the range to pick-up cargo containers to at least 3km or even 5km (this way those that can't stop have more time to fly-by). Have a skill to increase the range if you want called Cargo Management.
2. Have Salvage Drones that can pick up items:
A. Salvage Drone Skill (x1) (5km per skill point range for Salvage drones)
B. Have different sized salvage drones that can pick up say 25m3, 50m3 or 125m3 of items (Drone size would be 50m3, 100m3 and 250m3 size in drone bay).
C. If the item to too large a message pops up
D. If there are too many items the drone makes several trips until all the items are removed from the container.
If you even wanted to make them Tech II I would still buy them at 10mil each!!!
The tractor beam idea is kewl too, but I wouldn't use it because I have too few modules.
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Thaylor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Thaylor on 24/08/2004 03:42:00
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=103311
I fly in a BS and do agent missions only to have to spend sometimes 10 minutes picking up cargo.
I use a cargo scanner so I don't pick up every can either.
I use a MWD and as long as the container is 9-12km away I can MWD to it and stop fast enough to drag the contents into my cargo hold.
If the contents are less than 9km I have to Approach. I'm lucky that I move at 230m/sec so its not too bad, but I would really like to remove all the 5 Overdrives in my low slots and use some other modules.
I can't use an afterburner because I need the medium slots to recharge my capacitor.
Anyhow, I think the problem could be solved in a couple of ways:
1. Increase the range to pick-up cargo containers to at least 3km or even 5km (this way those that can't stop have more time to fly-by). Have a skill to increase the range if you want called Cargo Management.
2. Have Salvage Drones that can pick up items:
A. Salvage Drone Skill (x1) (5km per skill point range for Salvage drones)
B. Have different sized salvage drones that can pick up say 25m3, 50m3 or 125m3 of items (Drone size would be 50m3, 100m3 and 250m3 size in drone bay).
C. If the item to too large a message pops up
D. If there are too many items the drone makes several trips until all the items are removed from the container.
If you even wanted to make them Tech II I would still buy them at 10mil each!!!
The tractor beam idea is kewl too, but I wouldn't use it because I have too few modules.
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Thaylor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 03:39:00 -
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Just finished "The Blockade" agent 3 mission and this is what my scanner looks like:
Cargo Container 47 km
Cargo Container 54 km
Cargo Container 55 km
Cargo Container 56 km
Cargo Container 61 km
Cargo Container 63 km
Cargo Container 68 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 77 km
Cargo Container 86 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 88 km
Cargo Container 100 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 103 km
Concord Billboard 106 km
Cargo Container 121 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 124 km
Cargo Container 126 km
Cargo Container 132 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 135 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 142 km
Cargo Container 143 km
Cargo Container 150 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 151 km
Cargo Container 160 km
Cargo Container 176 km
Cargo Container 190 km
Cargo Container 213 km
18 Cargo containers.
I started the mission at 02:39. 1 warp and 18 dead pirates later it took about 26 minutes.
Its now 03:05 and I'm starting to pick them up using an MWD, in a battleship and 75% cap.
At 03:15 I warped back to the station to get the bonus reward slated for 03:19.
At 03:17 talked to agent and got mission bonus with 2 minutes to spare.
At 03:18 I undocked from station and warped back to a cargo container I bookmarked.
Arrived back at 03:19 and I still have 10 more cargo containers to pick up.
Its 03:27 and still have 4 more cargo containers to go.
Finally picked up all 18 containers at 03:30.
Warped back to station and started next mission at 03:32.
I wrote this post while moving between cargo containers...btw.
Mission to Mission Time difference: (03:32-02:39) 53 minutes
Time spent moving to mission location: ~5 minutes (4 jumps)
Time spent completing mission objective: ~23 minutes
Time spent picking up cargo containers: 25 minutes
So in my case it took me just a little bit longer to pick up the loot from the 18 pirates than it did for me to kill them.
I thought this would help show how much time is spent picking up loot.
When there's only 5 containers it usually takes less than 5 minutes to pick them up so the example I gave above is an extreme example.
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Thaylor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 03:39:00 -
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Just finished "The Blockade" agent 3 mission and this is what my scanner looks like:
Cargo Container 47 km
Cargo Container 54 km
Cargo Container 55 km
Cargo Container 56 km
Cargo Container 61 km
Cargo Container 63 km
Cargo Container 68 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 77 km
Cargo Container 86 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 88 km
Cargo Container 100 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 103 km
Concord Billboard 106 km
Cargo Container 121 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 124 km
Cargo Container 126 km
Cargo Container 132 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 135 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 142 km
Cargo Container 143 km
Cargo Container 150 km
Amarr Sentry Gun 151 km
Cargo Container 160 km
Cargo Container 176 km
Cargo Container 190 km
Cargo Container 213 km
18 Cargo containers.
I started the mission at 02:39. 1 warp and 18 dead pirates later it took about 26 minutes.
Its now 03:05 and I'm starting to pick them up using an MWD, in a battleship and 75% cap.
At 03:15 I warped back to the station to get the bonus reward slated for 03:19.
At 03:17 talked to agent and got mission bonus with 2 minutes to spare.
At 03:18 I undocked from station and warped back to a cargo container I bookmarked.
Arrived back at 03:19 and I still have 10 more cargo containers to pick up.
Its 03:27 and still have 4 more cargo containers to go.
Finally picked up all 18 containers at 03:30.
Warped back to station and started next mission at 03:32.
I wrote this post while moving between cargo containers...btw.
Mission to Mission Time difference: (03:32-02:39) 53 minutes
Time spent moving to mission location: ~5 minutes (4 jumps)
Time spent completing mission objective: ~23 minutes
Time spent picking up cargo containers: 25 minutes
So in my case it took me just a little bit longer to pick up the loot from the 18 pirates than it did for me to kill them.
I thought this would help show how much time is spent picking up loot.
When there's only 5 containers it usually takes less than 5 minutes to pick them up so the example I gave above is an extreme example.
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Thaylor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 07:06:00 -
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Exactly Dao2.
Light Salvage Drone (drone bay size 50m3, capacity 25m3)
Medium Salvage Drone (drone bay size 100m3, capacity 50m3)
Large Salvage Drone (drone bay size 250m3, capacity 125m3)
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Thaylor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 07:06:00 -
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Exactly Dao2.
Light Salvage Drone (drone bay size 50m3, capacity 25m3)
Medium Salvage Drone (drone bay size 100m3, capacity 50m3)
Large Salvage Drone (drone bay size 250m3, capacity 125m3)
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