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Kitchie
Gallente
Kitchie's Logistics and Marketing Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.02 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: Kitchie on 02/04/2009 01:35:00
Market Discussion question? Good as any 
I just had someone offer to sell me a GTC and then proceed to assign me a Freeform contract. Even with links taken out, the guy said he'd had two people accept them so far today.
Anyway, it got me to wondering, is there any legitimate use for a Freeform contract? If you search contracts, there are none publicly available - not surprising as a high degree of trust would be needed for one to have any use, but if the parties trust each enough to use a Freeform, why use a contract at all?
Does anybody here know of or used, a Freeform contract? I'm at a loss to think of their purpose....
Kitchie
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Brynden Blackfish
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Posted - 2009.04.02 01:48:00 -
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Personal ads?
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Professor Leech
Transmetropolitan
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Posted - 2009.04.02 01:48:00 -
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There are plenty of uses as you can create whatever freeform contract you like. Even though they get used as an open cheque book.
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.04.02 07:35:00 -
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There is no legimate use of freeform contract. Unless you using it with somebody you fully trust. If they try to 'sell' you GTC or whatever with it they are trying to scam you whatever fairytale they are spinning.
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Aniel Zaar
Gallente
Light of Orion
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Posted - 2009.04.02 10:02:00 -
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It can be used for charity.
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KittenSoft
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Posted - 2009.04.02 14:40:00 -
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I'm assuming you meant they tried to sell you a Plex as I believe if they tried to scam you on a 'GTC', that CCP will ban them.
Plexes on the other hand have no such protection.
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Krathos Morpheus
Gallente
Legion Infernal
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.02 16:44:00 -
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The wrong thing with freeform contracts is just that it can accept money. Every other contract refuses to accept money in exchange of nothing.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.04.02 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
The wrong thing with freeform contracts is just that it can accept money. Every other contract refuses to accept money in exchange of nothing.
That doesn't stop people selling 1 trit and advertising the contract as 100m trit. It's actually quite a common variety of scam.
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Drab Cane
Mining Emporium inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.02 18:57:00 -
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I've been kicking around the idea of using free-form contracts as publicly recorded receipts. I ran out of time last night, but I intend to test the process this evening.
Essentially, two players would have already come to an agreement of some type (I'm thinking in terms of the private investment I will be handling).
The person receiving the money would post a free-form contract for the amount of the expected investment, with a description of the transaction/agreement and for the amount to be received. The contract is setup for the person giving the funds.
The person giving the funds could then review the contract, and accept the contract if the description and price looks correct.
If my assumptions are correct, that contract will then be retained in both player's contract history for however long contracts are kept. Third parties could easily verify such transactions by checking a character's contract history.
This wouldn't be feasible for public offerings with lots of investors, but I'm hoping it will serve my purposes once I'm done testing it.
Any thoughts? Is there anyone who's already tried this?
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Krathos Morpheus
Gallente
Legion Infernal
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.02 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
The wrong thing with freeform contracts is just that it can accept money. Every other contract refuses to accept money in exchange of nothing.
That doesn't stop people selling 1 trit and advertising the contract as 100m trit. It's actually quite a common variety of scam.
That's not a freeform contract.
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.04.02 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Drab Cane
I've been kicking around the idea of using free-form contracts as publicly recorded receipts.
I thought the same thing when I first saw it, but the small problem is... They have to be open to the public, and not private, in order for the "Public" to see it. :(
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trade'wench
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Posted - 2009.04.02 20:53:00 -
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There's only one legitimate use for freeform contracts, PLEX scams 
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Agor Dirdonen
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Posted - 2009.04.02 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Agor Dirdonen on 02/04/2009 21:03:21
Originally by: Kitchie
If you search contracts, there are none publicly available - not surprising as a high degree of trust would be needed for one to have any use, but if the parties trust each enough to use a Freeform, why use a contract at all?
Does anybody here know of or used, a Freeform contract? I'm at a loss to think of their purpose....
There is a very good explanation why you can't find any publicly... try to create one for public and see what happens!!
Anyway, Freeform contracts can be used to make a (non-binding!!!) contract between two parties, you know, like in a free form....
Anything where you don't expect people to trade stuff or money but where you rather need a 'service' (be it free) or would like to motivate people to behave in a certain way can be set up using Freeform contracts.
Quick example: you want new recruits in your corp to go through some kind of 'introduction' period. So when they get accepted, you give them an 'Introduction' contract where you specify what you expect from them for a certain period (you can make Templates so you don't have to create it from scratch the next time).
This contract can contain for example the corp rules and after the agreed period, you either 'complete' or 'fail' the contract. It's one way of saying he's accepted or rejected. After that he's rewarded with a Title or some extra priviliges or he's booted from the corp.
You don't have to add collateral, you don't have to give it a huge price cost or whatever. Can you force the creator to complete your contract successfully? No. Can you be sure to get your money back if you put in collateral? No.
Does it mean anything if the creator 'completes' it? Probably not, but it could, depends on how you deal with it.
Roleplayers (they still exist?) can also do lots of things with Freeform contracts.
For the record, I would highly suggest to Reject all offered freeforms where you have to pay up a certain amount of money as collateral, unless you're really sure you're not getting scammed. On the other hand, a freeform contract can contain a money price if it's completed which means you get money or don't get anything. As long as you don't loose anything, it's all good.
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Agor Dirdonen
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Posted - 2009.04.02 21:06:00 -
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Another example:
you could 'hire' a trader which has to make a certain amount of profit for your corp during a certain period. When he succeeds, you complete the contract which could specify he gets a money reward or a special other favor (needs to be given separately, can't be done in a contract).
Contract can specify what he's allowed to do and what not (scamming others for example to protect the corp reputation).
Be creative, lots of possibilities.... just remember you never NEED a freeform contract, but it can be fun and nice to have one.
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