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The Tec
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Posted - 2009.04.02 11:34:00 -
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I am rather new and so I need to ask this question. Yesterday (April fool's day) I was scammed. SHe lied about what she was selling. I guess if it seems too good to be true, it is.
Anyway, as I understand it, there is no formal recourse of action. I e-mailed her and asked her to refund the difference of what the item would really cost. I have not heard back and probably won't. So now this is how I see my options:
1. Perhaps she writes back and does the right thing and refund that difference (195 mil ISK).
2. E-mail the CEO of her corp, explain what she did and see if he/she will force the hand to pay the difference.
3. Declare War on them and kill the entire corporation.
I have already informed my corp and Alliances and they (the other corp) have been marked red.
Am I missing anything? |
Nif Makria
Caldari
Aquilan Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.02 11:45:00 -
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scamming is part of EVE. It doesnt just happen on April Fools day - it happens every minute in Jita of every day of every hour that the server is up.
You could email the CEO, but I cant see the CEO will doing anything. Yes it gives the CORP a bad name, but only a bad name to you - anyone else in EVE wont be the wiser.
You could declare war on them, but how big is your CORP and how big is theirs?
CCP even say that scamming is just part of the EVE-sandbox.
Be seeing you.... |
Tasko Pal
THE IRIS
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.02 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tasko Pal on 02/04/2009 11:54:45
4. Post on the forums so we can revel in the drama. 
My take is that you are extremely unlikely to get anything back. Scammers don't offer returns. And it's almost as unlikely that a scammer will be a member of a corp that prohibits scamming. I think declaring war would be unproductive or worse. It's possible that this corp deliberately scams (and perhaps other anti-social behavior like can flipping or loot stealing) in order to obtain free war decs, in which case, your alliance could be entering the lion's den, if it is weak on the pvp-side. Another possibility is that the corp consists solely of trade alts in which case there would be few, if any war targets to attack.
Frankly, I think your only real option is 5. Ignore it and move on.
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Raiffe DuBoite
The New Eden Visionary
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Posted - 2009.04.02 12:07:00 -
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Thanks for the link Nif, few isk coming your way later tonight, As Nif explained we have a short guide to avoiding the scams on our news site The New Eden Visionary
'The Truth, by any means necessary!' |
Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.04.02 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: Ms Delerium on 02/04/2009 12:33:35
I think I have never accepted a contract from an unknown dude. But I like to do contracts with EVE-friends.
Sometimes its profitable for both parts, for example if you often sell minerals to the same industrialist that operates in your habitual station, it will be profitable for both you to set a contract and you get rid of sale taxes and broker fees. OK you gonna pay 10k for contract fee but this is smaller than a big buy/sell market taxes.
There is an easy way to ensure you are not gonna be scammed. Talk to the contractor, and offer him the exact same contract made by yourself  this way he will save the 10k isk fee so he must be happy isnt it  if he still rejects, tell him "gf" and laugh on his face.
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Letava
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.02 18:01:00 -
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Easy way to ensure you don't get scammed: read the contract, carefully. Double check the items involved, the quantities, the price and who's actually paying and you won't get scammed. Contracts are a secure way to buy and sell items as long as you pay attention. |
Metalcali
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.02 18:02:00 -
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Definitely 3. You can do it, and make them pay at the same time.
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Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.02 20:01:00 -
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The scammer will not give your money back.
So I suggest that first, you do #2, so the CEO of the corp can laugh at you. Then move on to #3 so you can lose even more isk to these guys.
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Chomin H'ak
Integrated Takeovers
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Posted - 2009.04.02 20:25:00 -
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 Originally by: The Tec
1. Perhaps she writes back and does the right thing and refund that difference (195 mil ISK).
2. E-mail the CEO of her corp, explain what she did and see if he/she will force the hand to pay the difference.
3. Declare War on them and kill the entire corporation.
1. GL with that
2. GL with that
3. GL with that
Originally by: Frenden Dax
My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
My Blog - Fighting for Eden |
Requiescat
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.04.02 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Chomin H'ak
1. GL with that
2. GL with that
3. GL with that
confirmed, you're gonna need it
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let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
Galaxy Punks
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.02 20:36:00 -
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Or you could NOT hire me to get your ISK back
HAHA i stole the GNARKILL joke
I muse be doing it rite now 
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Requiescat
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.04.02 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: CrimsonLobo
Or you could NOT hire me to get your ISK back
HAHA i stole the GNARKILL joke
I muse be doing it rite now
the gnarkill sigs are the key to their power
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let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
Galaxy Punks
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.02 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: CrimsonLobo
Or you could NOT hire me to get your ISK back
HAHA i stole the GNARKILL joke
I muse be doing it rite now
the gnarkill sigs are the key to their power
Ahhh i see, that would explain alot
/Stalk
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Julia Minus
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Posted - 2009.04.03 00:38:00 -
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Once you give them the isk, it's gone for good.
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Nif Makria
Caldari
Aquilan Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.03 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Raiffe DuBoite
Thanks for the link Nif, few isk coming your way later tonight, As Nif explained we have a short guide to avoiding the scams on our news site The New Eden Visionary
looks for my ISK ?? none received - Ive been scammed!!
Be seeing you.... |
Yuki Valentine
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.04.06 23:16:00 -
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ahh the streets are flowing with tears of people who cannot read a contract
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.06 23:30:00 -
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Scammed Targets deserve what's coming for them.
That's all, want a bunny?
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Imertu Solientai
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.06 23:34:00 -
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Hi, I'm the alt of the scammer. I am very sorry to have caused you so much hurt, so I will give you back 10x whatever you send me as a form of compensation. Again, sorry.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.04.07 10:50:00 -
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OP please contact me in game. I am specialised in the utter destruction of these damned scammers. I'm so sick of their constant spam in local window that I do it practically free. Contract cost is the cost of any war decs, locator fees and the cost of the ship I use to grief them, until it explodes.
We can start with noob ships or bigger depending on how effective you want this payback to be.
There are also subtler ways of payback without the pew but those are my secret weapons.
Lets talk ♥
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RaV1N
Caldari
Shut Up And Play
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Posted - 2009.04.07 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
OP please contact me in game. I am specialised in the utter destruction of these damned scammers. I'm so sick of their constant spam in local window that I do it practically free. Contract cost is the cost of any war decs, locator fees and the cost of the ship I use to grief them, until it explodes.
We can start with noob ships or bigger depending on how effective you want this payback to be.
There are also subtler ways of payback without the pew but those are my secret weapons.
Lets talk ♥
This person seems legit
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.04.07 12:30:00 -
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Cheapest I can do it without it costing me money ^_-
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.04.07 12:32:00 -
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Cheapest I can do it without it costing me money ^_-
Buy me some faction ships to pew in ok? (don't actually)
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Amarr Citizen20090214
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Posted - 2009.04.08 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: RaV1N
This person seems legit
i agree
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.04.08 00:35:00 -
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The scam was that He convinced you that he was a She
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Alexis Acantha
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Posted - 2009.04.08 00:56:00 -
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If I were you, I would simply accept what happened as an expensive lesson in the value of carefully reading a contract before you accept it. The issuer can describe the contract however he/she wants. However, if you take the time to read it, you can see what you're actually buying (and how much you're actually paying) before you accept the contract.
If anything you victimized yourself by not paying close attention to what you were agreeing to.
Sorry to seem heartless, but it's the truth. |
Ricard Clarence
Gallente
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.08 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
the gnarkill sigs are the key to their power
Where are the GNARKILL twins (triplets? octuplets? veritable clone army?) anyway?
Why havent they posted in this thread yet?
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Black Beard didn't do it for the money, he did it for the lulz and to ensure his K/D Parchment made impressive reading to the common man.
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