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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis I kind of disagree. EvE is much more interesting when you don't know how stuff works. It's the discovery that's fun.
If you're the kind of person for whom learning isn't fun then so sorry, wrong game etc.
I'd /thread this quote but alas its against the forum rules to make a post with only that as the content. 
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Montmazar So people actually do enjoy a bad interface. This is mind blowing. Again, the question:
If WoW had an extremely counterintuitive interface, does that mean you would like it?
The interface has always been fine and from day one I neve had any issue figuring out what things did. Or when something did lack a certain intuitiveness I just asked a question in chat or looked or asked on the forums. Windows with information in them that you can use to manipulate the information is what the eve ui is made of. No fancy graphics or borders or any of the frilly eyecandy that those 'other' mmo games have. The ui in eve is movable and resizable and customizable with the normal limits. Now thats not to say the ui couldn't use a bit more functionality or even that some long standing bugs or annoyances are not still around but to call the eve ui a bad interface is just trolling.
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Montmazar And what kind of game relies on users googling information about how to operate it? That is crazy.
Yes I forgot that blizzard makes you buy lots and lots and lots and lots of exspensive books to be well informed on the finer details of thier games. Stupid CCP and the fan sites just give it all away for free online. 
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.03 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 03/04/2009 00:10:32
Originally by: Montmazar User-interface wise, I haven't either. That said, many user interface options are completely pointless and puzzling. When I right click on a container, what do I want to do 99% of the time? Open it, right? So how come that is the sixth or seventh option down the list, well after "trash container," and option that most players will never select in the entire course of playing the game? That is bad user interface.
Never understood people who complain about that. It's a right-click menu. It lists stuff. Look at what you are selecting and you will always highlight what you want to select. Do you do it with your periphery vision or something that you miss so much its an issue?
Originally by: Montmazar If I pull an item off my ship, how come I can bring up market data about that, but if I want to sell it I need to repackage it? And why does repackage have a confirm screen? In what situation would someone ever be impeded by repackaging something accidentally? A completely pointless extra three clicks per item. That is bad user interface.
Repackging as a requirement for sale ensures the item is repaired and ready for sale. Want to buy a BS at a station with no repair service that is in deep hull? Repackaging with the confirm lets you not trash your fitted mods.
Originally by: Montmazar When you make people click things more times than they have to, that is bad user interface. When extremely uncommon actions are prioritized above extremely common actions, that is bad user interface. I cannot believe any of this is at all controversial - the powers of fanboi blindness continue to amaze me.
The powers of the troll are pretty darn amazing too.
Originally by: Montmazar Yes, it's a fun game. I pay for it and will continue to pay for it. That does not mean it has no flaws, and I do not understand why pointing out flaws is somehow construed as a moral or personal failing. Earlier you called complainers spineless. That is crazy.
So far I have shown that all your supposed ui flaws are just personal ineptitude on your part. Sorry. 
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Originally by: Montmazar Apologies to Zeba - it was a different commentator who said complainers had no spines.
Np. I realised it was just part of the undocumented eve-o experience feature list. 
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.03 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 03/04/2009 00:19:41
I'll let one of the math wiz guys show you that formula. But the laymans explanation is that additional resistance buffs work on the remaining unresisted hp. This is to make sure we all don't run around in effectively damage immune 99.9% resist ships.
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.03 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Montmazar
Again all you are effectivlely saying is that the eve ui does not perform to your personal expectations even though the vast majority of people seem to have no issues with it past Akita T and he just made this thread to attract people like you into it so people like us can have a live one to mess with. 
<3 Akita T.
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.03 00:30:00 -
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Lmao. I'm not even going to touch that one though prepare yourself for battle from others. 
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.03 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Arkyk
Originally by: Zeba The powers of the troll are pretty darn amazing too.
Troll != someone who disagrees.
I agree. However Montmazar in this case was obviously trolling. 
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.03 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Zeba The interface has always been fine
Wut? 
Be honest now, this is quit annoyingly unnecessarily stupid.
You know your buddys name is Jimbo but unfortunatly when you search for him using 'character' it generates a list as long as your arm with him somewere in the middle so use 'character(exact)' to save yourself the hassle. See the problem is not bad ui but people who don't make the connection as to why its set up the way it is and assumes its bad design.
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.03 05:31:00 -
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I love how people can stretch a single minor gripe into a huge rant poast about how it totaly destroys the rest of the ui. Keep it coming. 
Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
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