Wont that mean it would give overall less dps due to more stacking though?

I would like that they remove Duration as a bonus and Volley all together.

Make all Lasers have a 1 Second Duration and no Cycle Animation. It glows like the Cloak when active. Their DPS is their Volley and all bonus are to Dmg only and Cap is divided by their current volley into how much per second and deducted once a second. Same with the division of overheat dmg.

Basically they become Solid State Lasers, the Beam never breaks. You fire it the beam comes out, you turn it off or die and the beam stops.

That would be a very unique weapon.

I fly Amarr exclusively and feel your pain with cap demands.

Wouldn't it make more sense to adjust the cap usage of laz0rs rather than the modules? Virtually all other weapons have been 'tweaked' at some point. It seems to me CCP should follow suit with Amarr and 'balance' lasers by reducing cap/fitting requirements.

Just my $.02

There has been much hand wringing around here about energy weapons. I've been poking around, and I have noticed that the mag stab, gyro, and heat sink all give the same bonuses, a damage multiplier and a RoF bonus. I know that when I've made Amarr fits, one of the things that I keep running into is that every heat sink I fit has a significant impact on the ship's cap.

So here's an idea:

Increase the multiplier by a little and decrease the RoF bonus proportionally to reduce an unintentionally severe drawback of the weapon upgrade.

I would like that they remove Duration as a bonus and Volley all together.

Make all Lasers have a 1 Second Duration and no Cycle Animation. It glows like the Cloak when active. Their DPS is their Volley and all bonus are to Dmg only and Cap is divided by their current volley into how much per second and deducted once a second. Same with the division of overheat dmg.

Basically they become Solid State Lasers, the Beam never breaks. You fire it the beam comes out, you turn it off or die and the beam stops.

That would be a very unique weapon.

I would like that they remove Duration as a bonus and Volley all together.

Make all Lasers have a 1 Second Duration and no Cycle Animation. It glows like the Cloak when active. Their DPS is their Volley and all bonus are to Dmg only and Cap is divided by their current volley into how much per second and deducted once a second. Same with the division of overheat dmg.

Basically they become Solid State Lasers, the Beam never breaks. You fire it the beam comes out, you turn it off or die and the beam stops.

That would be a very unique weapon.

I would like that they remove Duration as a bonus and Volley all together.

Make all Lasers have a 1 Second Duration and no Cycle Animation. It glows like the Cloak when active. Their DPS is their Volley and all bonus are to Dmg only and Cap is divided by their current volley into how much per second and deducted once a second. Same with the division of overheat dmg.

Basically they become Solid State Lasers, the Beam never breaks. You fire it the beam comes out, you turn it off or die and the beam stops.

That would be a very unique weapon.

Isn't the complaint basically that lasers use too much cap?

There are probably about five thousand balance problems hidden in there, but the idea is seriously cool.

I would like that we just play the game and stop friggin complaining.

I bet you crybabies would scream for a nerf in a game of chess!! Oh, why was his queen able to move like that and checkmate me???!!! omg nerf nerf !!!!!

If you can't handle a game of chess then go play freaken checkers man!!

If you touch my 4k volley damage Abaddons I will be forced to do bad things to you.

I would like that we just play the game and stop friggin complaining.

I bet you crybabies would scream for a nerf in a game of chess!! Oh, why was his queen able to move like that and checkmate me???!!! omg nerf nerf !!!!!

If you can't handle a game of chess then go play freaken checkers man!!

I would like that they remove Duration as a bonus and Volley all together.

Make all Lasers have a 1 Second Duration and no Cycle Animation. It glows like the Cloak when active. Their DPS is their Volley and all bonus are to Dmg only and Cap is divided by their current volley into how much per second and deducted once a second. Same with the division of overheat dmg.

Basically they become Solid State Lasers, the Beam never breaks. You fire it the beam comes out, you turn it off or die and the beam stops.

That would be a very unique weapon.

I fly Amarr exclusively and feel your pain with cap demands.

Wouldn't it make more sense to adjust the cap usage of laz0rs rather than the modules? Virtually all other weapons have been 'tweaked' at some point. It seems to me CCP should follow suit with Amarr and 'balance' lasers by reducing cap/fitting requirements.

Just my $.02

Off the top of my head I think that would only happen with a collision rig. Multiple heat sinks should just be proportional. I'd need to do some analysis to know for sure. Do you know where I can get the basic stacking formula?

25% RoF = 33% straight up damage bonus.


I know that there's a formula somewhere that proves this, but I forgot it and I'm very bad at maths.

I fly Amarr exclusively and feel your pain with cap demands.

Wouldn't it make more sense to adjust the cap usage of laz0rs rather than the modules? Virtually all other weapons have been 'tweaked' at some point. It seems to me CCP should follow suit with Amarr and 'balance' lasers by reducing cap/fitting requirements.

Just my $.02

1 damage per 0.75 second cycle = 1.33 damage per second (1/0.75=1.33)
1.25 damage per 1 second cycle = 1.25 damage per second (1.25/1=1.25)

There has been much hand wringing around here about energy weapons. I've been poking around, and I have noticed that the mag stab, gyro, and heat sink all give the same bonuses, a damage multiplier and a RoF bonus. I know that when I've made Amarr fits, one of the things that I keep running into is that every heat sink I fit has a significant impact on the ship's cap.

So here's an idea:

Increase the multiplier by a little and decrease the RoF bonus proportionally to reduce an unintentionally severe drawback of the weapon upgrade.

I'm not sure that lasers use too much cap base, but then I've mostly flown ships with a cap use bonus or pirate faction laser boats. My main point is that the only damage mod that has any disadvantage other than increased ammo use is the heat sink.

TBH I think that if they modded the T2 heatsink to have a damage bonus of 1.25 and no RoF bonus, or a 1.1 damage bonus and a 10% reduction in cap use instead of the RoF bonus, it would be a pretty noticeable improvement.

So your point is that you want laser damage nerfed?

Current damage bonus is 1.1 for T2 and 10.5% RoF bonus. 10.5% inclusive is about 15% exclusive so .15 + 1.1 (existing bonus) = 1.25. That's pretty much the same DPS with the heat sink as before with 10.5% less cap drain. In my head when I started this thread I was thinking more along the lines of ~5% RoF bonus and 1.175 damage multiplier, but the example holds.

How is that a nerf?

Ok, maybe not then. But what capacitor has to do with all this? (Your OP)