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Caste Ling
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Posted - 2009.04.02 21:38:00 -
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I make around 150m isk per rl day with about 20 mins rl time spent in game adjusting buy/sell orders, contracts, and manufacturing processes. I keep around 1.1 billion in my isk making machine and use the profits for pvp.
I am curious how much isk other people make in game in relation to how much time/isk they input into their 'isk making machine.'
. . . So how much do you make? |

Jonan Hannon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.02 21:41:00 -
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+1m more than all subequent posters in this thread
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.04.02 21:46:00 -
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I make:
- 10 millions per day on the mining character - 20-30 millions per day on the missions character - 20-100 millions per day on the trading character
as you see trading is the most profitable but also the most irregular. Really some days suck at earning isk. Even if I spend serious time updating orders, sometimes there are no-lifers who overtake all my efforts.
it also depends on my own time, lazyness, and luck factor.
Now Im wanting to get into manufacturing and/or research with the mining character. Is it profitable? |

Linda Tradition
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Posted - 2009.04.02 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jonan Hannon +1m more than all subequent posters in this thread
i do 0.01 isk more, every 5mins!
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Caste Ling
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Posted - 2009.04.02 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Linda Tradition
i do 0.01 isk more, every 5mins!
Or .01 isk less :)
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.04.02 22:54:00 -
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I make my eyes bleed reading the same loser threads everyday!!
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:13:00 -
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150m off of 1.1b, with time to pvp away the profits, sounds pretty good to me. For me, right now.. a lot. This post-patch is a real isk spinner. I'd just been ticking along, mainly long trading, for a good few months, but this post-patch has made the markets interesting, lucrative and fun again.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:18:00 -
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Notify : you are unauthorized to know how much we make a day. When you see it, you'll spit bricks.
_ Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |

dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray I make my eyes bleed reading the same loser threads everyday!!
you should see a Doctor about that.
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Ricdic
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:19:00 -
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625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair  |
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Frenden Dax
Dax Acquisitions
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:19:00 -
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Never enough.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.02 23:26:00 -
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The first 40m each day is entirely from investments and costs me no work whatsoever. After that, it depends how busy I am with mineral compression. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |

Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.03 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
Im working with something similar, a little twice that in capital, but my daily profit is near zero. Instead of trying to pump my wallet up more, I now have started a new scheme I call "What corporation can I topple this month and which merc outfit is going to be rich today" |

Saggy Glands
Amalgamated Transport And Trade
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Posted - 2009.04.03 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
The T1 module market must be red hot in your region!  |

Sasha Kiki
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Posted - 2009.04.03 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
Im working with something similar, a little twice that in capital, but my daily profit is near zero. Instead of trying to pump my wallet up more, I now have started a new scheme I call "What corporation can I topple this month and which merc outfit is going to be rich today"
I support these kind of endeavours.
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Ricdic
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.03 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Saggy Glands
Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
The T1 module market must be red hot in your region! 
Well I can confirm 1 thing, it is T1  |

paat
Unnatural Growth HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.04.03 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
Im working with something similar, a little twice that in capital, but my daily profit is near zero. Instead of trying to pump my wallet up more, I now have started a new scheme I call "What corporation can I topple this month and which merc outfit is going to be rich today"
I loled 
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SleepingBuddah
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Posted - 2009.04.03 08:19:00 -
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Eleventy gazillion isk/weed
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Crimsoneer
Gallente Knowledge Stick Station Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.04.03 09:09:00 -
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I love 5 mil a day.
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.04.03 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
Im working with something similar, a little twice that in capital, but my daily profit is near zero. Instead of trying to pump my wallet up more, I now have started a new scheme I call "What corporation can I topple this month and which merc outfit is going to be rich today"
You could just hand out motherships to random nubs :D
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Dennmoth Ferdier
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.04.03 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray I make my eyes bleed reading the same loser threads everyday!!
Cosmo doesn't like showing his e-wallet-peen to others  ------ Heart for isk, Balls for risk. |

Gin G
Halls Of Valhalla
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Posted - 2009.04.03 12:08:00 -
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60mill maybe on L4s on a good day when i dont get bourd after the first one
a few hundread mill in about a hour or two scamming crap in jita may eve never run out of idiots
1.5 bills in about 10 mins may people never stop giving wallet and hanger acess to newbs
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Thaledred
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Posted - 2009.04.03 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Thaledred on 03/04/2009 12:12:04 300 - 800mil / day (trader)
Just depends.
For this is spent about 1-2 rl hours / day, always at different times, just whenever i feel like going through 350+ buy/sell orders.
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Confuzer
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.04.03 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
I don't believe a word of it.
I make 1.5 bil/hour playing. On average it comes to 1 bil a day profit. ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |

Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.04.03 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer
Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
I don't believe a word of it.
I make 1.5 bil/hour playing. On average it comes to 1 bil a day profit.
Its amazing how profitable Embezzling funds can be...
disclaimer: i have no proof or suspicions of the above alligation mearly stated in jest
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.03 12:46:00 -
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Mine is a hair under 4" 
What was the question again? 
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Manalapan
Dynasty Banking
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Posted - 2009.04.03 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Manalapan on 03/04/2009 12:47:34 Well lets see the last report showed that in February we earned a total of 37,225,678,319.72 approximately (I could have messed up just now) which was for a period of 28 days so we had an average of 1,329,488,511.42 a day. In case you were wondering.
Note: This includes all activities we do so it not quite fair to be honest and its with a very nice chunk of ISK. All that information is publicly available just have to do the math (which I just did). 
Oh and you wanted time commitment....probably 3-4hrs 4 days of the week on average?
Dynasty Banking |

Ulecese
Ihatalo Research and Development Ihatalo Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.03 13:02:00 -
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approx 500m per day manufacturing and selling in bulk to traders. ------------------------------------ IHATALO CARTEL'S IGB T2 SHOP - Tech2 IGB shop EVE GAMING - API Secure IGB |

Confuzer
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.04.03 13:15:00 -
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Is there a billionairs club somewhere in eve where I can brag about my wealth btw? My e-peen needs stroking. ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |

Midas Man
Caldari Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.04.03 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer Is there a billionairs club somewhere in eve where I can brag about my wealth btw? My e-peen needs stroking.
not quite but there is a daily topic on MD you can post in
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SencneS
Amarr Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.04.03 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: SencneS on 03/04/2009 13:55:03 According to EMMA my average income is a day is -264,903,591,71.45... I loose :(
Edit - Forgot the Negative sign.
Amarr for Life |

YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.04.03 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 03/04/2009 14:54:59
Originally by: SencneS Edited by: SencneS on 03/04/2009 13:55:03 According to EMMA my average income is a day is -264,903,591,71.45... I loose :(
Edit - Forgot the Negative sign.
There must be a penalty for those spamming the forums with interminable stories about the economy... 
Black Sun Empire |

Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.04.03 15:09:00 -
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once people stop humping nintendo wallet i might actually be able to play eve =) and actually have a billion in my wallet, it look so empty right now ='(
looking for someone to teach me how to audit
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.04.03 15:40:00 -
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Enough to not care about what others earn a day.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.04.03 16:06:00 -
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Lets try and turn it around.
How many hours are you guys logged in per day?
I'm 1 at max.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.03 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Turiel Demon
You could just hand out motherships to random nubs :D
Ohh I do that too.
Look for day old nubs in SWA and give them grand old Rockefeller treatment.
Bought someone a passive drake mission fit last week. |

Mari Katarin
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Posted - 2009.04.03 17:54:00 -
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When my accounts aren't paid up: at least 10M/day each.
When they are paid: a lot more than that.
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Khrillian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.04 19:15:00 -
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You all do realize that this thread is basically full of people bragging "I make $8/day." Better yet, you get banned if you try to collect your salary .
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Haine Arai
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.04.04 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Khrillian You all do realize that this thread is basically full of people bragging "I make $8/day." Better yet, you get banned if you try to collect your salary .

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Durandal Prime
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Posted - 2009.04.05 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Khrillian You all do realize that this thread is basically full of people bragging "I make $8/day." Better yet, you get banned if you try to collect your salary .
There are other ways to collect your salary. As the other post said, you can collect the tears of small corps when you hire a merc corp to rip the small corps a new one. 
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.05 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista Lets try and turn it around.
How many hours are you guys logged in per day?
I'm 1 at max.
4 per week. 6 at the most.
I've gone stretches where I haven't logged in for 3 months straight.
EBANK people can attest to this. 
EBANK - Chairman of the Board | www.eve-bank.net
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Johnny Rockefeller
Builders League United
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Posted - 2009.04.05 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Look for day old nubs in SWA and give them grand old Rockefeller treatment.
Hey! No giving anyone the Rockefeller treatment unless that anyone happens to be me! 
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.04.05 08:51:00 -
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I'm not a big marketeer any more. Since dropping my POS reaction chain and both my IPOs, I have tended to just do whatever is fun in EVE. WHen we were in faction warfare, we made a slight profit and got a lot of ships blown up, so I'd call that a big success. Nowadays, I've been pulling in ISK from the new expansion content. We farmed a class 4 wormhole hub system linking to class 3s for about 6b in 2 weeks, then sold that system to another corp for a total of 10b. Then we moved into a class 6 wormhole system and found a gas cloud worth 2.88b, which we spent 1 day mining and then reacted into polymers worth 6.5b. Prices have started to drop since we started the reaction but it should be worth at least 4b by the time we sell it. Then last night our motley crew took on a hacking site in the class 6 system and just about pulled it off with no losses. Net loot was some tags and stuff for reverse engineering plus 1 intact hull section and 1 wrecked hull section. Total value about 1.5b for 2-3 hours work, which was a bit high as we were figuring things out as we went along and hadn't much of a proper strategy.
This isn't all personal profit, of course. But it's great to make this much AND have fun at the same time, which I think is much more important than making a ****load of isk with very little time spent online.
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.04.05 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista Lets try and turn it around.
How many hours are you guys logged in per day?
I'm 1 at max.
Logged in bout 2 to 3 hours a day.In that time active behind the laptop - and not watching television/playing with kids/chatting with wife - i'd say about 1 hour to 1.5 hour a day playtime.
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Lord Zarcam
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2009.04.05 18:15:00 -
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I'm surprised that I haven't seen the most important question asked yet:
Is this the amount sold per day, or profit per day?
In the end, it's all about profit and nothing else. I could easly sell a billion worth of stuff per day, but if I didn't make a profit, what good did it do?
Eve-Commander shows my profit margin for the last 30 days at a little over 5000%. I don't how it's so high, but I guess my true profit margin is around 30% to 40% with an average of 3b to 4b of inventory on the market. Not bad for a 300K investment a couple of months back.
In Space, No One Can Hear You Scream! |

Ricdics
Tleilex Developments Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.04.05 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Zarcam I'm surprised that I haven't seen the most important question asked yet:
Is this the amount sold per day, or profit per day?
Subject is "how much do you make per day" which I generally do attribute to profit. If he said what is your daily turnover then it would have been different. So I am not sure about others but I took the OP's question as "how much profit do you make per day" and answered accordingly. |

flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.04.05 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdics
Originally by: Lord Zarcam I'm surprised that I haven't seen the most important question asked yet:
Is this the amount sold per day, or profit per day?
Subject is "how much do you make per day" which I generally do attribute to profit. If he said what is your daily turnover then it would have been different. So I am not sure about others but I took the OP's question as "how much profit do you make per day" and answered accordingly.
Thinking same , profit per day.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.06 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista How many hours are you guys logged in per day?
Logged in a lot more than I spend actually playing 
I'd guess I'd make between 1-10% back off the capital I used. As long as its profit and low work, I'm cool with it. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |

Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.06 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista Lets try and turn it around.
How many hours are you guys logged in per day?
I'm 1 at max.
1-2 hours a day at a time sometimes, but as anyone who's actually tracked me or my scant 2 alts down can attest, most of that time is pretty passive. I'm either on autopilot between a station or two, running mineral freight between station and POS, or looking at the market.
Rarely do I get to blow anything up anymore, so I live vicariously through others using isk. |

Confuzer
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.04.06 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Confuzer on 06/04/2009 13:24:33
Quote: I'm surprised that I haven't seen the most important question asked yet:
Is this the amount sold per day, or profit per day?
In the end, it's all about profit and nothing else. I could easly sell a billion worth of stuff per day, but if I didn't make a profit, what good did it do?
1 -> 1.5 bil pure profit. I think I turn over like 3 to 5 bil each day.
Quote: You all do realize that this thread is basically full of people bragging "I make $8/day." Better yet, you get banned if you try to collect your salary
With 1 hour playing for 1.5 bil. Howmuch would my salary be IRL? Dunno what the isk sellers give nowadays. ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
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Challis
Caldari Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.04.06 14:52:00 -
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on the days i actually do something i make 200-300mil / day need to update buy orders a few times a day this is with about 2bil turnover / day starting to expand more cause i hate seeing unused liquid :p but the time invested to make good use for the next 2bil would cost me too much daily time
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2009.04.06 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
You dirty s****lol! Ah well figured you beat me at that :P
I make roughly about 400m per day, I'm logged in a lot, of that time I mostly spend chatting. Actually working for isk I'd say maybe 15min a day.
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Belkadan
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Posted - 2009.04.06 17:01:00 -
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Damnit, I'm on for a couple hours each day, and I'm lucky if I get 5M profit.
I have no clue how people can make so much with so little effort...
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.06 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Belkadan Damnit, I'm on for a couple hours each day, and I'm lucky if I get 5M profit.
I have no clue how people can make so much with so little effort...
Its more or less the amount of capital that is being worked with.
1% of 500m 1% of 200b
Well you get the idea |

Belkadan
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Posted - 2009.04.07 02:54:00 -
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yup that's what everyone says. but i never see anything profitable in the markets. It's all "set up buy order, wait a while, then spend a rediculous amount of time collecting the crap, then sell it"
Yup, that'll take up no time at all..........pfft. I'm beginning to understand why people buy isk online...
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.07 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Belkadan yup that's what everyone says. but i never see anything profitable in the markets. It's all "set up buy order, wait a while, then spend a rediculous amount of time collecting the crap, then sell it"
Yup, that'll take up no time at all..........pfft. I'm beginning to understand why people buy isk online...
Take a few minutes to read the stickies at the top, there is literally a metric **** ton of information in there to get you started.
Likewise, utilize eve search and look for the from start to my first billion thread(s) where players have a toon straight out of the cooker and directly into trade and turned them into multi millionaires or billionaires within a month or two time.
Some of them have even posted their excel sheets tracking what and where they traded. |

Tasko Pal
THE IRIS United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.07 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Belkadan yup that's what everyone says. but i never see anything profitable in the markets. It's all "set up buy order, wait a while, then spend a rediculous amount of time collecting the crap, then sell it"
I see your problem. Time management is a key skill. And there's no reason for you to be hauling crap around. There's something wrong, if you are.
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Jamanda
Glimmermere
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Posted - 2009.04.07 05:02:00 -
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17.5 mil an hour I'm richer than all of you fools.
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.04.07 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Belkadan Damnit, I'm on for a couple hours each day, and I'm lucky if I get 5M profit.
I have no clue how people can make so much with so little effort...
Dont worry, 99% of players are on same situation. How much time have you been playing EVE Online?
Seriously there is too much bragging on here. People talk of billions like if they were peanuts. "Hey I found this cloud and made 6b in a day" lmao and they dont tell how many buddies to share this profit? "I found thins market opportunity and I earn 0.5b a day without playing more than 30 minutes to update some orders"
Yeah 
Talking on the forums is free and easy you know 
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Belkadan
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Posted - 2009.04.07 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Belkadan on 07/04/2009 12:31:36
Originally by: Ms Delerium
How much time have you been playing EVE Online?
A little over a month, I'm not impatient, I know many of the "billionaire club" members have been playing a while. I don't expect to be trading at that level even remotely soon, but I play EVE to have a lot of fun, the problem is it's difficult to get a solid "no hassle" income in EVE, which is what I need if I ever expect to play PvP effectively and have fun while doing it.
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.04.07 12:57:00 -
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So how do you guys explain the GTC market?
cmon everyone and his dog can earn 150m a day so 2 days and your account is paid with isk. Then 4b+ per month to enjoy.
Why do people need to buy isk? If everyone does 4b a month and they invest this wisely to double it easily.
Why would anyone need more isk if nobody loses a ship. Ever. As nobody commits mistakes...
I forgot to add "IN HERE". Bragging on the forums is the oldest activity since internet was created. Come down to Earth, real life people are happy if they get 20-50 millions a day.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.07 13:21:00 -
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I've always suspected that the RMT crowd, and that includes GTC since their inception since it is technically legalized RMT, consists of two different players.
1. Player A who loves the game and loves to interact with the various pew pew, alliances, etc... but lacks the time commitment to earn enough isk to field that fun 2. Player B (who in all reality is likely a group of several player Bs) who runs said alliance and literally needs RMT to make the war engines go
Trading is easy isk, anyone here can attest to it. But it is an acquired skill that does take time to hone and work to such a sharpened point that you can magically work 2b+ capital into the ability to play for free more or less.
So if you're only making 50m a day, don't fret. That is GREAT progress and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Think about it like this, thats the ability to lose one HAC a week and not feel any losses. There are people in the game who would kill to have that ability.
The other thing you have to keep in mind is that we players who do throw around a billion plus capital on the market don't collect are profits in a steady stream. We work fluctuations and often have to wait 2 or 3 weeks for movements before we cash out. Thus our immediate daily profits are often in the red, but once some final sales move at the end or middle of the month we're back in the green. |

Confuzer
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.04.07 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Confuzer on 07/04/2009 13:46:13
Originally by: Ms Delerium
Originally by: Belkadan Damnit, I'm on for a couple hours each day, and I'm lucky if I get 5M profit.
I have no clue how people can make so much with so little effort...
Dont worry, 99% of players are on same situation. How much time have you been playing EVE Online?
Seriously there is too much bragging on here. People talk of billions like if they were peanuts. "Hey I found this cloud and made 6b in a day" lmao and they dont tell how many buddies to share this profit? "I found thins market opportunity and I earn 0.5b a day without playing more than 30 minutes to update some orders"
Yeah 
Talking on the forums is free and easy you know 
You Ms, are ignorant. We are not bragging. There are days I make 3bil+ pure profit, for me and nobody else. I know of people with 1+ trillion isk. how can you explain that then? How long does eve exist?
Problem with the so called "bragging" is, people can't do it anywhere else. Or rather, people like to talk about their big profits somewhere. Non market people WILL get bored by hearing it over and over while having a wallet of 100mil themselves. So in here, we hope to meet fellow experienced market players to share our stories around a fire fueled with isk :D
Real market people should watch those stories closely, so they can immitate it (and that's why traders are so elusive and general in their stories). ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |

Dakk Nightfall
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Posted - 2009.04.14 00:47:00 -
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I'm making 100-150m a day right now logging in to adjust orders 2-3 times each day for about 20mins a time.
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Lord Zarcam
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2009.04.14 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer Edited by: Confuzer on 07/04/2009 13:46:13
Real market people should watch those stories closely, so they can immitate it (and that's why traders are so elusive and general in their stories).
You know, I did read these stories when I started trading and it did inspire me to keep trying. It took me 3 to 4 months to turn my first billion in sales. But I kept working at it when I felt like it.
Now, I'm turning over 2 to 3 billion of stuff a week with an average of 30% to 45% profit margin. I'm still re-investing my profits back into more stuff. Higher priced stuff. Higher profit margin stuff. And it's finally, after 9 months of playing this game, making sense. I have a lot more to learn, but now I understand various comments being made that usually only a working trader gets. And I'm doing it all in station trading from one location, and not a major trade hub either.
I'm not making the 150m a day because I re-invest just about everything I make right now. But I'm doing pretty good for an old fart that works everyday.
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Dano Ei
Viziam
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Posted - 2009.04.14 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista Lets try and turn it around.
How many hours are you guys logged in per day?
I'm 1 at max.
Well in your case add forum time aswel as it seems to be a extension of the game for your brand of warior type 
@Ricdic Other peoples money doesnt count...nly when you finally embezzel it as most of us still expect! 
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:28:00 -
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About 12m a day through a new self-started corp with a massive 3 members.
Currently getting familiar with the market though, doing a lot of research for trading endeavours.. I'll probably fail, but at least that means someone else gets a profit!
Need to work up some collateral first, the first few weeks are the slowest after all.
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Senzei
Amarr Deutsche Minen und Werke Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.14 09:42:00 -
[68]
Who cares?
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SuperTight5
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:53:00 -
[69]
4 bil / day Proof
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Alex555
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Posted - 2009.04.16 13:53:00 -
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Well It is fun to read about making billions in no time. I can just comment one thing here. It is possible to make billions in seconds, but years have been invested before.
I will not comment how much I make per day, which is not important at all.
What is important how I have achieved my results.
I have started trading in May 2007 and since that have been adding bit by bit to my NAV every day. Later I switched to manufacturing and some other activities. And now, after two hardcore years, I can afford myself to spend just a little time - let's say an hour daily - to maintain my profits at a quite significant level. But before that I have been spending up to 5 hours daily shifting orders, roaming through the universe, making mission, having good deals, having freaking bad days etc.
It is impossible to build a fortune in one day. Though it is possible to loose everything with one click.
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Veritech knight
Envoy Corps
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Posted - 2009.04.16 15:15:00 -
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my goal is to make 100m/day trading. after that I just do whatever I want for fun and not worry about making a bil a day. if that happens then yay but I dont run after it as much anymore.
greets to all the ships/mod traders o/
vk
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Naoko Ziya
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Posted - 2009.04.16 18:52:00 -
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I started trading 2 days ago with a whopping 20 million isk 
Currently it's about 100 mill, but it's slowing down, as my badger is too small and too slow.
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.04.16 19:24:00 -
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I contract/channel trade, which means I still haven't quite escaped the isk/hour trap, except now I'm limited by available buy/sell opportunities as well as time. Pays better than missions if you have 2-3bil in capital, but, nothing compared to the market folks. Margins have fallen somewhat as more people have piled in over the last year.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.17 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Caste Ling I make around 150m isk per rl day with about 20 mins rl time spent in game adjusting buy/sell orders, contracts, and manufacturing processes. I keep around 1.1 billion in my isk making machine and use the profits for pvp.
I am curious how much isk other people make in game in relation to how much time/isk they input into their 'isk making machine.'
. . . So how much do you make?
That's mediocre at best. I submit an rl expert opinion for 2.500 Ç, takes me 5 hours to write. I can then buy 160 GTC with that money, and sell for 50 billion. Makes 10 billion for 60 mins rl time spent, 3.3 billion for 20 minutes. Your 150m for 20 mins rl time spent look quite lousy compared to that, like a huge time waste.
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Frezinviper
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.17 04:46:00 -
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I make 37m isk a day trading NPC goods with NO work at all really. I just a Jump Freither Once a Month for 30 mintues and market ords do the rest. ...
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Johnny Rockefeller
Builders League United
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Posted - 2009.04.17 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba That's mediocre at best. I submit an rl expert opinion for 2.500 Ç, takes me 5 hours to write. I can then buy 160 GTC with that money, and sell for 50 billion. Makes 10 billion for 60 mins rl time spent, 3.3 billion for 20 minutes. Your 150m for 20 mins rl time spent look quite lousy compared to that, like a huge time waste.
I was going to ask what kind of work you do that you can make 2.500 Ç in 5 hours, then I saw your corp and decided it must be your RL corp as well. No wonder you're rolling in dough 
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Upsetta
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Posted - 2009.04.17 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
That's mediocre at best. I submit an rl expert opinion for 2.500 Ç, takes me 5 hours to write. I can then buy 160 GTC with that money, and sell for 50 billion. Makes 10 billion for 60 mins rl time spent, 3.3 billion for 20 minutes. Your 150m for 20 mins rl time spent look quite lousy compared to that, like a huge time waste.
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TYCONDEROGA
Amarr Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.17 10:24:00 -
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I make about 300-500 mil a day during the week, and 500-1bil on the weekends.
This is all with one trade character that I autopilot around while I'm pirating with two other accounts. I probably put about 30 minutes a day into actually managing him.
Currently I manage a max 129 orders
Sell order total: ~13 Bil Buy order total: ~1 Bil
I have 6 accounts, all of which are free due to the income, and are payed for in isk for the next 6 months. I honestly can't even play that many characters, in reality im just training them and will most likely sell them on the forums at some point in the future.
I've been playing eve off and on for about 5 years, and it wasn't until about 6 months ago that i finally sat down and did the research needed to make some decent isk, with almost no effort.
I started buying items, in small amounts (test groups if you will) and taking them to different hubs to see how well they sold, and what kind of profit margin I could get. After about a month of running test groups I had established a number of items that i knew I could base my income off of. Then I bought them and there variants in very large numbers in jita, and lowered the profit margin to kill off competition.
I buy everything in Jita, I never sell there. And I also buy on my terms, by setting buy orders and getting the items at the price I want, then i can squeeze out the competition easier at my destination hubs. (this gets tedious sometimes though, jita IS market warfare)
Even though my alt can build damn near everything in the game, I don't manufacture anything. I just buy in bulk, ship, and mark it up.
Every once in a while i introduce a new item, and see if it sells...
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palliatoryrepalliation
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Posted - 2009.04.18 08:30:00 -
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Well I spend most of my time on my PVP accounts and chatting on Vent, But I allways have my trade account window open, that char Never undocks from station in Jita I ajust orders through out the day and make 170 mil a day ATM but I will be happy with 500. Oh and I have a 10 Inch c*(^%&^%($ :)
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2009.04.18 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Ricdic 625m a day with 10 minutes work required every 2.5 months
This is off a little over 200b though so might not be fair 
Im working with something similar, a little twice that in capital, but my daily profit is near zero. Instead of trying to pump my wallet up more, I now have started a new scheme I call "What corporation can I topple this month and which merc outfit is going to be rich today"
I like your style:)
Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
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Razz XXX
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.04.18 17:44:00 -
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Guess whole idea of make isk is relative some peep's but build huge alliances with just few b's while others over 100+ b's fly frigates and bother no one.
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Lucius Flaccus
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Posted - 2009.04.18 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Razz XXX Guess whole idea of make isk is relative some peep's but build huge alliances with just few b's while others over 100+ b's fly frigates and bother no one.
Yeah. It does get like that though. The more you have and make, the less you want to lose. Its like there is this narrow band between not being able to replace anything, and being able to replace everything with ease in which people are willing to pewpew and generally spend isk.
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Cecomina
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Posted - 2009.04.19 13:31:00 -
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I dont earn anything... If i am lucky, 1mill. |

Elgara
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Posted - 2009.04.20 10:59:00 -
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Im new to trading, my profit is not much for the amount of time i put in but i still earn a few mill here and there. But whats best aproach, buy low and haul it and sell it or buy low and put it back up on the market, then clue myself to the monitor and and change the order every now and then? Should i trade minerals, mods, ships or all of them?
It's a jungle out there and im kind of lost.
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Obidawn Kenohbee
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Posted - 2009.04.20 11:19:00 -
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I'd be surprised if some folks are making as much ISK as they say there are.
Sure, some will always just have "the knack" for reading the Market trends and almost always being in the right place at the right time to cash in on the next trend. I don't doubt that for one minute and it's cool if you can do it.
However, I've watched some good opportunities evaporate over the last two weeks as mineral prices have moved up and retail prices have been forced down by large scale competition.
Case in point, the price of Mexallon has gone up while the SELL price on Harbingers has bottomed out to pretty much meet most peoples' production cost -- and no, I'm not one of those folks who believe minerals are "free" if you mine them yourself.
The only guys who are likely still making money on Harbs are the folks who dumped 100 at a time in Amarr and flattened the market - LOL.
Fine by me, I'm not a manufacturer or miner, but I do like to keep an eye on the Markets anyway, and that is just one example of what I'm talking about.
So, as I said, I'm finding it harder and harder to believe folks can make 100M a day unless they are chain-ratting in really good 0.0 space, are selling PLEX daily, or have a huge and efficient industrial setup to dominate the Market and nuke the competition. 

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Megan Aven
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.20 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Obidawn Kenohbee So, as I said, I'm finding it harder and harder to believe folks can make 100M a day unless they are chain-ratting in really good 0.0 space, are selling PLEX daily, or have a huge and efficient industrial setup to dominate the Market and nuke the competition. 
Seriously tho... You can make 100M a day with little effort. Even if you have low capital (300M-400M is more than enough).
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.04.20 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lucius Flaccus
Originally by: Razz XXX Guess whole idea of make isk is relative some peep's but build huge alliances with just few b's while others over 100+ b's fly frigates and bother no one.
Yeah. It does get like that though. The more you have and make, the less you want to lose. Its like there is this narrow band between not being able to replace anything, and being able to replace everything with ease in which people are willing to pewpew and generally spend isk.
Well i noticed this myself.A year ago i would spend all my isk on ships/mods/skillbooks and such.Never really saved up for anything.
Now i can buy myself a mothership with ease and have enough to get a new one once it blows up , yet yesterday i had to buy a 5 million isk skill for my 2nd char.I doubted for about 30 minutes if she really needed it or not.
Afterwards it puzzled me why am i being so cautious with my isk when a year ago i bought myself dread/carrier/rorqual skills with allmost every isk i had yet never even have flown a dread and the rorqual i only used once then sold it to buy a chimera.
The more you have the harder it get's to actually spend that ingame currrency.
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.04.20 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Obidawn Kenohbee I'd be surprised if some folks are making as much ISK as they say there are.
Sure, some will always just have "the knack" for reading the Market trends and almost always being in the right place at the right time to cash in on the next trend. I don't doubt that for one minute and it's cool if you can do it.
However, I've watched some good opportunities evaporate over the last two weeks as mineral prices have moved up and retail prices have been forced down by large scale competition.
Case in point, the price of Mexallon has gone up while the SELL price on Harbingers has bottomed out to pretty much meet most peoples' production cost -- and no, I'm not one of those folks who believe minerals are "free" if you mine them yourself.
The only guys who are likely still making money on Harbs are the folks who dumped 100 at a time in Amarr and flattened the market - LOL.
Fine by me, I'm not a manufacturer or miner, but I do like to keep an eye on the Markets anyway, and that is just one example of what I'm talking about.
So, as I said, I'm finding it harder and harder to believe folks can make 100M a day unless they are chain-ratting in really good 0.0 space, are selling PLEX daily, or have a huge and efficient industrial setup to dominate the Market and nuke the competition. 

And also in all honesty i am not a good trader, mediocre at most but i earn more then when i would be ratting in 0.0.So if some 'big guys'in here claim they make 500 mille a day then i'll believe it because i know what i get in a day and i know how limited my view on the market is.
So i am assuming that if you don't believe it then you probably have even a shorter insight on the market then me.
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Obidawn Kenohbee
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Posted - 2009.04.20 19:15:00 -
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Some great info, and thanks for the replies.
So, does anyone make in excess of 1B a day, every day?
If so, what do folks view as the best way to achieve that? Pure market trading? A mix of manufacturing and trading?
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.04.20 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Obidawn Kenohbee Some great info, and thanks for the replies.
So, does anyone make in excess of 1B a day, every day?
If so, what do folks view as the best way to achieve that? Pure market trading? A mix of manufacturing and trading?
Now that you've piqued my interest... 
Be into everything, constantly scale up, and be innovative and original. If you really want to make it happen, the number above is certainly attainable.
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Lucius Flaccus
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Posted - 2009.04.21 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: Obidawn Kenohbee Some great info, and thanks for the replies.
So, does anyone make in excess of 1B a day, every day?
If so, what do folks view as the best way to achieve that? Pure market trading? A mix of manufacturing and trading?
Now that you've piqued my interest... 
I dont make a billion a day. Ill admit that before I write anything more. But I'd wager the way to make more isk is to take more opportunities.
With a few alts doing a bunch of regions, you could.. say... buy mission loot for refining across all of them. Play the relisting game buying/relisting items across all of them. Buy up cheap(ish) consumables from npc stations. All this while scouring the contract market for good deals. And in the inbetween seconds, station-trade in Jita.
It would be a logistical nightmare. And you'd be right in guessing most traders wont do all of this. Its a bit much.
Probably you were more wanting to know if anyone can turn a billion isk a day without spending many hours frantically working to get it. In which case, I think you're wanting to know "which technique can achieve that with the least amount of time/effort put in?"
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Obidawn Kenohbee
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Posted - 2009.04.21 11:12:00 -
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Once again, thanks for the solid replies and info.
Lucius, good point on the logistical angle -- I spent about a half hour yesterday looking at various routes between regions, cargo capacities and anything else I could think of that would factor into a solid rate of return for every hour spent.
For me, that's about the limit, too. My time is limited and I have one account, so I'll just take if from there 
Anyway, thanks again to all for the words. I'll be back in a month or so to let folks know how my "Hour A Day" fledgling trade tycoonism has prospered (or not) LOL
o7
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Miss Xoco
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.04.21 14:02:00 -
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I dont care effort, i just want to see results.
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