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Zironi Rinha
Gallente Carebear Evolution Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.04 13:21:00 -
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If i check the Avarice. Killboard which you were so nice to link. I fail to see a killmail of said Nyx.
As there is no lossmail to be found either, and your coalition cant provide a killmail. Did it really die?
LuLz at the 13 caps down tho :)
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Steelrattty
Caldari Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.04 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Play Dead Avarice, as many of you may know or at least think you know...Are bastards addicted to pvp and carebear tears. Today, much of both were had.
Working with our allies in Cloud Ring we have been engaging in some very intense and entertaining PVP. Since we arrived day 1 and engaged such organizations as Dead Mans Hand, Sons of Tangra, Puppet Masters and even IRON who apparently love us so much they came from Pure Blind to see us. It has been nothing but nonstop action and madness. Now CAOD reader, why should you care about what Avarice is doing in Cloud Ring? Because today, not only did we participate in more capital kills than we ever had in a day (15 + 1 supercap as we were part of a Shade/CH hotdrop earlier) the emorage reached new heights in our enemies.
Working in conjunction with our long-term allies The Shelter, our off/on lovers MH/GFED, Dara Cothrom (who've been really fantastic all week I might add) and Cry Havoc we managed to tackle and kill 4 Un-Natural Selection Dreads, 1 Carrier and 1 Nyx mothership. The twist? Well, the Nyx and two of the dreadnaughts self destructed before they were killed.
It gets better.
This capital force had absolutely no support in system. They had no scouts next door in any of the three systems including our current home system of DY- which is right next door. If they had, they might have noticed the 40 or so people in local getting ready to jump in on them. If I were a betting man, I think I'd have to say that the very careful and experienced capital pilots were relying on the fact that the system they were in was cyno jammed to protect them because we all know, cynojammers = god mode amirite?
Needless to say, cyno jammers do not equal god mode. The HEX Coalition which is supposedly unstoppable in Cloud Ring has come to a halt as sloppily and poorly as it began. Dara Cothrom, now being buffered by other forces in the area who HEX agitated are banding together to return them to their ORE homelands.
The best part of it all, the Nyx pilot as was explained to us in local petitioned the loss. Good luck with that.
"[06:26:11] SuperMarine > i dont think they replace ships due to stupidity"
PD
Notice the bold words
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1526/prrooff.jpg
He self destructed in half structure.
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Gut Punch
Gallente Shade. Penumbra Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.04 17:39:00 -
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I can't believe I missed this :(
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Batelle
Gallente HOMELESS. The Shelter
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Posted - 2009.04.04 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: S'totan I cant believe i missed this fight =(
you and me both. Although it sounds like it was more of a turkey shoot. EC-P8R... You will never find a more wretched hive of s****and villainy. |

Admiral Frools
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.04 19:51:00 -
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CR / OR have always been really good regions to find dumb mothership pilots in 
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WhiteSavage
Gallente Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.04 20:39:00 -
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Posting in a dead Nyx thread!
As per a turky shoot it was only 23 bs w/support vs 6 caps in their system.
Oh and shame on Un-nat for self destructing their caps and not posting their deathmails! ______________________________ The Tulip is AMAZED |

Velyks
Gallente Broski Enterprises Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.04 21:29:00 -
[37]
Fit another Nyx bro
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Shana Tirii
Gallente Mentis Fidelis Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.04.04 22:08:00 -
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Un-Natural Selection killboard is transfering kill/lossmails only through API so there will be no mails from self-destructed friendly ships. We also don't fakemail ships that enemies self-destruct. This still doesn't remove the fact that the capital ships were lost. I wasn't there so I don't comment the rest of the worthless smacking about the fight, true or not.
Overall nice post with awesome chest beating thread. And they truly deserved to die for their mistake. I just laugh when these kinds of things happen because it is just ISK and talking to the pilots who lost their caps, they don't really care like I wouldn't. Ships will be replaced in time anyways, it is just ISK. But we have to all still remember: "INTERNET SPACESHIPS - Serious Business"
By the way, first time me ever posting to CAOD. And probably to last one as I never read it anyways, this topic I just happened to spot on our own forums.
Everyone have fun in space trying to make their e-peen bigger - because I will. Over and out.
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Play Dead
Gallente Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.04 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shana Tirii
...there will be no mails from self-destructed friendly ships. We also don't fakemail ships that enemies self-destruct.
...it is just ISK and talking to the pilots who lost their caps, they don't really care like I wouldn't. Ships will be replaced in time anyways, it is just ISK. But we have to all still remember: "INTERNET SPACESHIPS - Serious Business"
I find these two statements ironic.
1. Fake killmails are killmails generated where ships weren't actually killed. IE. A titan which you should have killed, but didn't. We created a killmail for the Nyx pilot since at the end of the day, we don't feel there is a difference between a bubbled and dying ship self-destructing or us getting a killing blow on that ship. The pilot was obviously so upset and bothered by his impending doom that he intended to cheat us from our well deserved killmail and the modules fitted to his ship. The semantics of the kill are not of high value to us, since our killboard is meant to be an accurate tracker of how we perform as an alliance not a device we will allow to be abused through game mechanics for pilots to "beat the history books".
2. If this is to be believed and the pilots weren't bothered, then why not just take the loss like any other pvp ship? Why kill yourselves like a bunch of cultists trying to catch a ride on Halley's Comet? Why petition a loss that was not caused by faulty game mechanics but sheer stupidity? Obviously, the emorage is so strong that they had to throw this online tantrum to deflect some of the shame in this most embarassing loss.
You can say, "we don't care, it's just isk" all you want. You can say that about towers, ships, modules but at the end of the day those capitals were lost in an attempt to complete a goal and if you didn't care about the goal then why risk roughly 35b isk to achieve them? Was it free isk or did it take you x months to get together like the rest of us?
Hit me up if you have any free isk. I'd love some.
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Funkcikle
Gallente DEATHFUNK Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.04.04 22:59:00 -
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I too0 would like free isk, as I **** mine away with a vengance. I think I should get it before him because where supposed to be on the same side.
in closing mememememefirst
p.s If the nyx had warped to a belt first an managed to get a spot of ratting done before it kerploded then I would have been impressed
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Warrio
Caldari Southern Cross Incorporated Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.04.04 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: IronGoldenEagle Lol at the Broski t1 blob now in CR, hey guys! And that convo, GD could you guys spat intel and blatant lies at each other any more?
"I have 509 alts all with 50 mil SP and they all fly titans LOLZORS come to our pos at 4-13 which is caldari medium and engage our fleet of 12 dreadnoughts made up of exactly...." AND SO ON
Take nothing away from the SC T1 blob in CR. If it can't be done with T1 fitted Stabbers, it's not worth doing. sXe |

MASTER SMAMMAH
Caldari R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.04.04 23:30:00 -
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Yeah, Cloud Ring is really good for pvp. You can pew pew large or small. Most fun region I have been in, and I have been in most of them.
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3card Monty
Amarr Helljumpers Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2009.04.05 00:10:00 -
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Fake Killmails are Fake.
Self destruct although lame means ... You Didn't Kill It. Structure != Dead.
Self Destructing is lame, but Fake Killmail Posting much more lame.
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Kiko Goatbiter
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.05 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kiko Goatbiter on 05/04/2009 00:11:21
Originally by: Cal Hydar
Originally by: ****sock Alarmclock
Originally by: Play Dead Since we arrived day 1 and engaged such organizations as Dead Mans Hand, Sons of Tangra, Puppet Masters and even IRON who apparently love us so much they came from Pure Blind to see us.
wait
puppet masters actually has space? that doesn't befit their empire pubbie posting style
please take it from them immediately, tia
Goon posting has really declined lately. 
Declined implies something about goon posting
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3card Monty
Amarr Helljumpers Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2009.04.05 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Play Dead
1. Fake killmails are killmails generated where ships weren't actually killed.
Originally by: Play Dead
We created a killmail for the Nyx pilot
Originally by: Play Dead
our killboard is meant to be an accurate tracker
So how many other killmails are fake? Just the Fake Revelation, Fake Phoenix, and FAKE Nyx? How many others are fake?
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Funkcikle
Gallente DEATHFUNK Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 02:41:00 -
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Edited by: Funkcikle on 05/04/2009 02:45:38
Originally by: 3card Monty
Originally by: Play Dead
1. Fake killmails are killmails generated where ships weren't actually killed.
Originally by: Play Dead
We created a killmail for the Nyx pilot
Originally by: Play Dead
our killboard is meant to be an accurate tracker [/quot
So how many other killmails are fake? Just the Fake Revelation, Fake Phoenix, and FAKE Nyx? How many others are fake?
Tbh your just being facicious and obstropolous with that remark, they DID kill it, its not a fake killmail, its a replacement killmail, which is required because there is a flaw in the game mechanics, namly if your in a big enough ship with a big enough hitpoint buffer, u can destroy yourself and deny the ppl whole faily pwnt you a killmail as a trophy of their fine work.
Personly i think selfdestructing is just going out in a big blast of lame, as any one of the many many ppl who have killmails for my many many cap loses will testify , I don't do it. but each to thier own, u pay your subscription , you play your game, ur just a troll so shut it , and also your corp is ghey, also u r ugly and smell also u r a virgin also your shoes r ugly also your shoes smell
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Fargoth Ur
Caldari Broski Enterprises Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 02:45:00 -
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Most of them, actually.
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3card Monty
Amarr Helljumpers Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2009.04.05 02:55:00 -
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Structure != dead
Close != dead
The pro tip is NO In Game KillMail.
Tell yourselves what ever you want, maybe if you wish hard enough Fake killmails != Fake someday.
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Pristine Nippletub
Caldari EtE Clan Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.04.05 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shana Tirii
Everyone have fun in space trying to make their e-peen bigger - because I will. Over and out.
What about an e-gina. You don't really want to make it bigger so what do you say to those with an egina?
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mynnna
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.05 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Weazy Z [ 2009.03.29 23:43:14 ] Hawkcrest > not a problem, since you wish to be combative, I will not convo you again, you can convo me when your prepared to talk surrender
cr's first meme
Sorry to rain on your parade but CR has had meme's associated since before you started playing the game. 
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Jamez Graand
Gallente I.M.M Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.05 03:44:00 -
[51]
I HATE THIS (insert foul language) POST CAUSE IT GOT ME KILLED BY (insert foul language) RATS. Yo Ray! |

Scott Bowers
Caldari Southern Cross Incorporated Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.04.05 09:13:00 -
[52]
lawl @ self destructing moms.
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Queen Boxxy
Caldari Broski Enterprises Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 13:43:00 -
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Quote: Un-Natural Selection killboard is transfering kill/lossmails only through API so there will be no mails from self-destructed friendly ships.
Funny how you say this when the non-selfdestructed ships never quite made it to the board.
Quote: I just laugh when these kinds of things happen because it is just ISK and talking to the pilots who lost their caps, they don't really care like I wouldn't.
Lets assume you can make 20mil/hr reliably. Nyx is worth lets say 20billion. Which is 1000 hours; or 43 days of constant isk earning without downtime.
If that's nothing. Something you can shrug off. WOW.
Quote: Ships will be replaced in time anyways, it is just ISK.
43days worth.
Quote: By the way, first time me ever posting to CAOD. And probably to last one as I never read it anyways, this topic I just happened to spot on our own forums.
Ok so you guys have a battlereport or something on your forum. Probably talking badly about us. etc etc. Linking this thread and our killboard's battle report.
Yet you're the first one to come post. Yet you didnt just say. "Good Game." "We messed up but arent holding a grudge" or whatever. You just came to lulz at the thread. If a nyx is nothing to you guys... why not post like you lost a blackbird. "Meh, I didn't like that blackbird anyway" |

Xelios
Minmatar Broski Enterprises Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shana Tirii Un-Natural Selection killboard is transfering kill/lossmails only through API so there will be no mails from self-destructed friendly ships.
Looks like your API fetcher is broken  |

WhiteSavage
Gallente Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: 3card Monty Structure != dead
Close != dead
The pro tip is NO In Game KillMail.
Tell yourselves what ever you want, maybe if you wish hard enough Fake killmails != Fake someday.
Un-natural has yet to post their losses for the caps who did not self destruct in time. So your arguement is hypocritical at best.
I'm trying to understand your train of thought here mate. Are you saying... that even though we caught a mothership, bubbled its hopes for escape, killed its friends, popped its fighters, broke its tank, and made it explode... that somehow, since the pilot decided to right click on himself and self destruct... that we didnt kill it?!
So according to you, capital kills only exist when the dying pilot has his manpants on and dies with his ship... and every ship that self destructs might not have been there at all.
If this was real war and an enemy supercarrier was sinking fast with no hopes of survival or rescue... and it blew itself up, you imply that somehow that loss did not count?! That for some magical reason that ship techically was not destroyed?!!!
Exploded ship = dead Dead ship = dead - 1 mothership = -1 mothership.
You're hilarious. ______________________________ The Tulip is AMAZED |

3card Monty
Amarr Helljumpers Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2009.04.06 01:09:00 -
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Yes you caused him to self destruct, it happens all the time in large cap fights. Props to you for that, but self destruct no matter how lame means the pilot destroyed his own boat. Not You.
It doesn't matter how hard you want it to be different ... you are posting FAKE killmails for something you didn't kill.
Look in large fleet battles pilots often self destruct, it happened this weekend in the south, but i will bet you wont see a single FAKE killmail for those self destructed cap ships on any kill board involved in those fights, north or south.
You should be happy with killing 3 caps and making 3 self destruct. You can't claim an accurate KB if its full of fake killmails, no matter how you try to spin it.
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Mistress Suffering
Amarr Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 01:48:00 -
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Self-destructed is just as dead. Pretending "oh he chose to" is all well and trolly, but doesn't give you a mothership. Mostly its just a game design flaw (since truthfully any MS can self-destruct before it dies unless you drop 50 dreads on it) in the killmail system.
We've had 2 motherships self-destruct on us now. Their pilots remain just as traumatized by a backdoor visit as they would have been if they had not pressed the self-destruct button while dying.
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Viper ShizzIe
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.06 02:27:00 -
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No killmail generated = no killmail posted.
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Play Dead
Gallente Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: 3card Monty words
I was impressed by your use of capital letters. You seem very educated. Please, teach me about how internet spaceships works and instruct me on how to kill capitals because we've never done...Oh wait. Who were you again? Oh that's right. Nobody.
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LOPEZ
Caldari HOMELESS. The Shelter
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:46:00 -
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internet opinions = serious business. Revelation Eclipse |
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