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Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:59:00 - [241] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. LOLROTFLMAO So that's your secret weapon??? A LAWSUIT?!?!?!?? - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:59:00 - [242] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. LOLROTFLMAO So that's your secret weapon??? A LAWSUIT?!?!?!?? - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:00:00 - [243] Dear Halseth, I guess you must really be getting old and in fact your memory is failing you completely? That must be the only reason for what you posted. Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? Or perhaps I could remind you of the time that the JF forums were infiltrated and posts from that forum were utilised in order to kick JF from the NVA? Or maybe, just maybe, I could mention the times we jumped into our enemies chat channels to disrupt them? If you are going to try and proclaim yourself holier than holy, try and not do it with old military allies listening in. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:00:00 - [244] Dear Halseth, I guess you must really be getting old and in fact your memory is failing you completely? That must be the only reason for what you posted. Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? Or perhaps I could remind you of the time that the JF forums were infiltrated and posts from that forum were utilised in order to kick JF from the NVA? Or maybe, just maybe, I could mention the times we jumped into our enemies chat channels to disrupt them? If you are going to try and proclaim yourself holier than holy, try and not do it with old military allies listening in. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:10:00 - [245] Edited by: Faramir on 25/08/2004 00:14:06 Quote: For nearly 3 months now the PAs main fleet focus has been on the never ending exchange of station control in the Branch region. It has been a epic conflict of numerous fleet battles, awesome firepower and the destruction of billions in assets on both sides. Pushing EVE to its limits on a daily basis is enjoyable and for this chance we are greatful. However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Quote: 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. I think this as close to a "surrender" of the Northern Regions of Tenal and Branch as we'll ever have someone from the PA admit. So I'll take it and hope the PA will end their "claim" to these above named regions untill they decide to reclaim them and bring war to them. Although you may not like it or agree with it. The PA does no longer control nor inhabit these areas. I would only find it "honorable and just" if the Phoenix Alliance would remove these 2 regions from their claimed space. I refer to the following lines on the www.newvenal.org website: [i]"The PA consists of the regions: Venal, Branch, and Tenal. These regions are closed to all non VE personnel and corps"[/i} And the map shown here: Former PA claimed space This is not meant as a flame or any post of that sort, but a mere request to the PA to follow up on current events. Looking forward to a response (either here or ingame) Faramir EDIT: added links to claims for reference
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:10:00 - [246] Edited by: Faramir on 25/08/2004 00:14:06 Quote: For nearly 3 months now the PAs main fleet focus has been on the never ending exchange of station control in the Branch region. It has been a epic conflict of numerous fleet battles, awesome firepower and the destruction of billions in assets on both sides. Pushing EVE to its limits on a daily basis is enjoyable and for this chance we are greatful. However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Quote: 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. I think this as close to a "surrender" of the Northern Regions of Tenal and Branch as we'll ever have someone from the PA admit. So I'll take it and hope the PA will end their "claim" to these above named regions untill they decide to reclaim them and bring war to them. Although you may not like it or agree with it. The PA does no longer control nor inhabit these areas. I would only find it "honorable and just" if the Phoenix Alliance would remove these 2 regions from their claimed space. I refer to the following lines on the www.newvenal.org website: [i]"The PA consists of the regions: Venal, Branch, and Tenal. These regions are closed to all non VE personnel and corps"[/i} And the map shown here: Former PA claimed space This is not meant as a flame or any post of that sort, but a mere request to the PA to follow up on current events. Looking forward to a response (either here or ingame) Faramir EDIT: added links to claims for reference
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:26:00 - [247] halseth your ignorance about the tools in the eve client is downright embarrassing. just cause you dont know how to do something doesn't mean it can't be done or is an expliot. -Adapt and Overcome.
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:26:00 - [248] halseth your ignorance about the tools in the eve client is downright embarrassing. just cause you dont know how to do something doesn't mean it can't be done or is an expliot. -Adapt and Overcome.
Destable	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:45:00 - [249] It really was one of the most well made movies I've ever watched.
Destable	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:45:00 - [250] It really was one of the most well made movies I've ever watched.
Selim	Posted - 2004.08.25 01:48:00 - [251] Edited by: Selim on 25/08/2004 01:54:42 The greatest asset a military force can have is superior tactics. The second greatest is intelligence of the enemy. We have both; the Phoenix Alliance has neither. Despite our superior intel, our tactics are still second to none on the battlefield and yours are feeble at best. You do realize, Halseth, that under you, the PA is just crumbling. The fact that we have insiders, defectors, and spies in your ranks underlines this. The fact that you either deny or 'forget' everything is just one reason why you are not a worthy leader of an alliance. Spies have been used in EVE for a long time. You yourself know that the PA has used them, the NVA used them. Everybody tries to use them. Surrendering is your only hope now to make the PA worth something again other than a few corps terrorizing miners and allying with pirates. Actually, no, forget it. Any alliance that lies, breaks promises, goes against its word, betrays friends, and allies with pirates deserves to fall.
Selim	Posted - 2004.08.25 01:48:00 - [252] Edited by: Selim on 25/08/2004 01:54:42 The greatest asset a military force can have is superior tactics. The second greatest is intelligence of the enemy. We have both; the Phoenix Alliance has neither. Despite our superior intel, our tactics are still second to none on the battlefield and yours are feeble at best. You do realize, Halseth, that under you, the PA is just crumbling. The fact that we have insiders, defectors, and spies in your ranks underlines this. The fact that you either deny or 'forget' everything is just one reason why you are not a worthy leader of an alliance. Spies have been used in EVE for a long time. You yourself know that the PA has used them, the NVA used them. Everybody tries to use them. Surrendering is your only hope now to make the PA worth something again other than a few corps terrorizing miners and allying with pirates. Actually, no, forget it. Any alliance that lies, breaks promises, goes against its word, betrays friends, and allies with pirates deserves to fall.
Tjong	Posted - 2004.08.25 05:42:00 - [253] Originally by: Selim Actually, no, forget it. Any alliance that lies, breaks promises, goes against its word, betrays friends, and allies with pirates deserves to fall.
Tjong	Posted - 2004.08.25 05:42:00 - [254] Originally by: Selim Actually, no, forget it. Any alliance that lies, breaks promises, goes against its word, betrays friends, and allies with pirates deserves to fall.
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:22:00 - [255] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Stained You sir, are a liar. sigh . Of course I am, I r the enemy. Yes you are. In this thread you claim to have 40k zydrine in the corp hangars in BKG-Q2 while screenshot proves it's near to nothing and your personal hangar only has a mere ~12.8k. RONA-KIA Corp hangar in BKG KIAEddz's hangar in BKG Not a liar huh?
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:22:00 - [256] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Stained You sir, are a liar. sigh . Of course I am, I r the enemy. Yes you are. In this thread you claim to have 40k zydrine in the corp hangars in BKG-Q2 while screenshot proves it's near to nothing and your personal hangar only has a mere ~12.8k. RONA-KIA Corp hangar in BKG KIAEddz's hangar in BKG Not a liar huh?
Meddy	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:34:00 - [257] Great post Halseth Long Live The PA We Keep Our Space, you other people can't have it Long Live The PA
Meddy	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:34:00 - [258] Great post Halseth Long Live The PA We Keep Our Space, you other people can't have it Long Live The PA
Eversor	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:45:00 - [259] Edited by: Eversor on 25/08/2004 06:47:29 Leafo.....Great job as usual. You truly are the Spielberg of Eve. Long live the PA!!!
Eversor	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:45:00 - [260] Edited by: Eversor on 25/08/2004 06:47:29 Leafo.....Great job as usual. You truly are the Spielberg of Eve. Long live the PA!!!
Djmase	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:24:00 - [261] This is by far the worst posts. Please stay on topic. This was a real post until evol and moo hijacked it. Please moderate yourselves. Please make sure that you have a better reason for posting then flaming. I wish the ISD would delete everything up till the press release to make this a real post. I am requesting this to the ISD to delete all post until the press release and lock this thread. This needs not be a postable thread. Make it a sticky for about a week then let it go. Is it that hard to just let things be DJ
Djmase	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:24:00 - [262] This is by far the worst posts. Please stay on topic. This was a real post until evol and moo hijacked it. Please moderate yourselves. Please make sure that you have a better reason for posting then flaming. I wish the ISD would delete everything up till the press release to make this a real post. I am requesting this to the ISD to delete all post until the press release and lock this thread. This needs not be a postable thread. Make it a sticky for about a week then let it go. Is it that hard to just let things be DJ
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:25:00 - [263] Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 07:30:10 I usually don't post in these kind of threads but I thought I would make an exception. First: Good post Halseth! Next: Day out and day in I read these threads where you just throw it at each other! This goes for both sides! Why do you do this? Honestly? Do you think it's fun to make your enemies hate you? Do you in some strange way enjoy being despised and hated? This is a war, yes. The reason for war is always some kind of difference (or in some rare occasions misunderstandings, that is not the issue here though) but this does not mean that you have to be rude and act like a complete immature moron. I'm not saying we should give each other a hug and make up, but fight the fight with honour! This is starting too look like some high-school brawl. I always try to have respect for my enemies and that usually turns out to be mutual. I have had respect for almost all 'my' enemies since the beginning of this war until recent. Due to the last weeks escalating events that havenÆt been in the actual game on the battlefield have made me loose that respect for most of my enemies, I even despise many of them because of their acts OFF the battlefield. I think this is sad. We are at war, yes. But still we can act like civilised people! Personally I get more satisfaction by being respected by my enemy than hated. Think about it; you can actually kill someone and get respect and maybe even get praised for the way you performed that kill. I think that is more fun and adds to this fantastic game then to get hate-mail and to read meaningless posts on the forums. I will not say anymore. If you can't understand what I mean with this post you will never do it. If that is the case I feel sorry for you that you miss out some of the great aspects of the game. And as I said in the beginning, this goes for all of you regardless of which side in this war you are. This will probably be flamed now by the ones I have been speaking of in my post, so be it. See you on the battlefield! //Leafo Oh, glad to hear you liked the video from a artistic point of view. Whatever... click on sig for all my videos
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:25:00 - [264] Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 07:30:10 I usually don't post in these kind of threads but I thought I would make an exception. First: Good post Halseth! Next: Day out and day in I read these threads where you just throw it at each other! This goes for both sides! Why do you do this? Honestly? Do you think it's fun to make your enemies hate you? Do you in some strange way enjoy being despised and hated? This is a war, yes. The reason for war is always some kind of difference (or in some rare occasions misunderstandings, that is not the issue here though) but this does not mean that you have to be rude and act like a complete immature moron. I'm not saying we should give each other a hug and make up, but fight the fight with honour! This is starting too look like some high-school brawl. I always try to have respect for my enemies and that usually turns out to be mutual. I have had respect for almost all 'my' enemies since the beginning of this war until recent. Due to the last weeks escalating events that havenÆt been in the actual game on the battlefield have made me loose that respect for most of my enemies, I even despise many of them because of their acts OFF the battlefield. I think this is sad. We are at war, yes. But still we can act like civilised people! Personally I get more satisfaction by being respected by my enemy than hated. Think about it; you can actually kill someone and get respect and maybe even get praised for the way you performed that kill. I think that is more fun and adds to this fantastic game then to get hate-mail and to read meaningless posts on the forums. I will not say anymore. If you can't understand what I mean with this post you will never do it. If that is the case I feel sorry for you that you miss out some of the great aspects of the game. And as I said in the beginning, this goes for all of you regardless of which side in this war you are. This will probably be flamed now by the ones I have been speaking of in my post, so be it. See you on the battlefield! //Leafo Oh, glad to hear you liked the video from a artistic point of view. Whatever... click on sig for all my videos
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:41:00 - [265] Ya know leafo, I agree with you. In RKK's previous wars we had nothing but respect for most of our enemies. Corps like F-E, Merc Frigs, Space Invaders, Jokers etc etc. All spoke to us with respect and fighting agaisnt was a pleasure. However, since the start of this war, I have been attacked OOC and IC, in-game and on the forums by your alliance in an attempt to disuade our war. I have never Smaktalked anyone before this war because I have never had the need to. Unfortunately, your alliance has attacked me verbally so much that I really don't care what you or your alliance members think. None of you have any respect not only for me, but for yourselves and your own alliance members. NSN used to be a strong corp who I looked up too. Now you have been reduced to working with idiots. I feel if RKK had a merc contract solely on your corporation then it would have gone along the lines of our previous wars where it would have been a bit of fun. But the facts of the matter are simple. From the second we declared war on the PA we have been receieved with nothing but verbal attacks. Your alliance made it's bed, die in it. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:41:00 - [266] Ya know leafo, I agree with you. In RKK's previous wars we had nothing but respect for most of our enemies. Corps like F-E, Merc Frigs, Space Invaders, Jokers etc etc. All spoke to us with respect and fighting agaisnt was a pleasure. However, since the start of this war, I have been attacked OOC and IC, in-game and on the forums by your alliance in an attempt to disuade our war. I have never Smaktalked anyone before this war because I have never had the need to. Unfortunately, your alliance has attacked me verbally so much that I really don't care what you or your alliance members think. None of you have any respect not only for me, but for yourselves and your own alliance members. NSN used to be a strong corp who I looked up too. Now you have been reduced to working with idiots. I feel if RKK had a merc contract solely on your corporation then it would have gone along the lines of our previous wars where it would have been a bit of fun. But the facts of the matter are simple. From the second we declared war on the PA we have been receieved with nothing but verbal attacks. Your alliance made it's bed, die in it. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Gan Ning	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:57:00 - [267] I actually really liked the conga video, almost made me kick off my shoes and C-O-N-G-A!!!!! \o/ \o~ ~o ~ <o~
Gan Ning	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:57:00 - [268] I actually really liked the conga video, almost made me kick off my shoes and C-O-N-G-A!!!!! \o/ \o~ ~o ~ <o~
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:04:00 - [269] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. LMFAO, get a clue bud.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:04:00 - [270] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. LMFAO, get a clue bud.

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