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Halseth	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:28:00 - [1] STATE OF THE ALLIANCE - 2004.08.19 Greetings from the Phoenix Alliance. It is my pleasure to address the public at this time and bring you all up to date on the state of our organization while giving some insight into our progress, motivations and resolve. That being said, please humble us with your attention to a video we feel best embodies the spirit of the PA. Enjoy. The Phoenix Music: Hans Zimmer - Spectres In The Fog (The Last Samurai OST) Filesize: 29.5 mb File: Rightclick and save as We are also proud to announce the addition of 4 very fine corporations to the Phoenix Alliance. Ypsilon Industries, Asgard Sw, Oberon Nightgard, and A99. These corporations have all recently completed their trial periods and are now enjoying full membership. Thanks to many factors internaly and externaly, The Phoenix Alliance and its strong economic foundation remains solid and even profitable in the shadow of this great northern war. Our thanks and gratitude to those that continue to invigorate our economy with strong and steady business. Speaking of this great Northern War, we would like to take this opportunity to hail the brave fighters of this conflict on BOTH sides of the battlefield. The sheer volume of carnage unleashed has been staggering and left no starsystem north of LoneTrek unchallenged. For the PA, it has been a war fought on many fronts with an estimated 71 hostile corporations against our 23. On the whole, we have experienced honorable and worthy warfare from most of these these organizations and corporations: (N.C.A.) N.O.R.A.D. the Fade Union the Coalition of Deklien U.N.I.C.O.R. Jericho Fraction Reikoku Evolution m0o Equilibria Pukin' Dogs S*****rdly ..and a few others For nearly 3 months now the PAs main fleet focus has been on the never ending exchange of station control in the Branch region. It has been a epic conflict of numerous fleet battles, awesome firepower and the destruction of billions in assets on both sides. Pushing EVE to its limits on a daily basis is enjoyable and for this chance we are greatful. However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. A recent wave of forum attacks on PA policy, its history and its integrity have all originated from the formidable PR offices of the leaders of the NCA. They have even had the gaul to begin dictating the terms of our surrender. We find this kind of behavior inflamatory coming from those who we have yet to wage war on. The growing voice for a military response to this audacity within the PA is now loud enough to force us to focus our attention south onto the forces of the NCA. Very soon our conga lines of doom will be pointing our compasses south bringing our flavor of recreation to the NCA. Sincerely, Halseth Durn
Halseth	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:28:00 - [2] STATE OF THE ALLIANCE - 2004.08.19 Greetings from the Phoenix Alliance. It is my pleasure to address the public at this time and bring you all up to date on the state of our organization while giving some insight into our progress, motivations and resolve. That being said, please humble us with your attention to a video we feel best embodies the spirit of the PA. Enjoy. The Phoenix Music: Hans Zimmer - Spectres In The Fog (The Last Samurai OST) Filesize: 29.5 mb File: Rightclick and save as We are also proud to announce the addition of 4 very fine corporations to the Phoenix Alliance. Ypsilon Industries, Asgard Sw, Oberon Nightgard, and A99. These corporations have all recently completed their trial periods and are now enjoying full membership. Thanks to many factors internaly and externaly, The Phoenix Alliance and its strong economic foundation remains solid and even profitable in the shadow of this great northern war. Our thanks and gratitude to those that continue to invigorate our economy with strong and steady business. Speaking of this great Northern War, we would like to take this opportunity to hail the brave fighters of this conflict on BOTH sides of the battlefield. The sheer volume of carnage unleashed has been staggering and left no starsystem north of LoneTrek unchallenged. For the PA, it has been a war fought on many fronts with an estimated 71 hostile corporations against our 23. On the whole, we have experienced honorable and worthy warfare from most of these these organizations and corporations: (N.C.A.) N.O.R.A.D. the Fade Union the Coalition of Deklien U.N.I.C.O.R. Jericho Fraction Reikoku Evolution m0o Equilibria Pukin' Dogs S*****rdly ..and a few others For nearly 3 months now the PAs main fleet focus has been on the never ending exchange of station control in the Branch region. It has been a epic conflict of numerous fleet battles, awesome firepower and the destruction of billions in assets on both sides. Pushing EVE to its limits on a daily basis is enjoyable and for this chance we are greatful. However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. A recent wave of forum attacks on PA policy, its history and its integrity have all originated from the formidable PR offices of the leaders of the NCA. They have even had the gaul to begin dictating the terms of our surrender. We find this kind of behavior inflamatory coming from those who we have yet to wage war on. The growing voice for a military response to this audacity within the PA is now loud enough to force us to focus our attention south onto the forces of the NCA. Very soon our conga lines of doom will be pointing our compasses south bringing our flavor of recreation to the NCA. Sincerely, Halseth Durn
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:32:00 - [3] I think Leafo's movies are the only thing keeping the PA moral up ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:32:00 - [4] I think Leafo's movies are the only thing keeping the PA moral up ¼©¼ a history
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:34:00 - [5] Nice snide remark Riddari. Come back and talk when you have something to say. ------- K. Raven
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:34:00 - [6] Nice snide remark Riddari. Come back and talk when you have something to say. ------- K. Raven
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:37:00 - [7] Quote: For nearly 3 months now the PAs main fleet focus has been on the never ending exchange of station control in the Branch region. It has been a epic conflict of numerous fleet battles, awesome firepower and the destruction of billions in assets on both sides. Pushing EVE to its limits on a daily basis is enjoyable and for this chance we are greatful. However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Ignoring a problem won't make it go away.
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:37:00 - [8] Quote: For nearly 3 months now the PAs main fleet focus has been on the never ending exchange of station control in the Branch region. It has been a epic conflict of numerous fleet battles, awesome firepower and the destruction of billions in assets on both sides. Pushing EVE to its limits on a daily basis is enjoyable and for this chance we are greatful. However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Ignoring a problem won't make it go away.
KamiCrazy	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:39:00 - [9] I think yuo should mind your members more kalast. THey seem to make warp to station mistakes.
KamiCrazy	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:39:00 - [10] I think yuo should mind your members more kalast. THey seem to make warp to station mistakes.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:41:00 - [11] Edited by: ProphetGuru on 23/08/2004 21:45:24 Thank you for ceding Branch to us. If you guys need to come get stuff out of bkg maybe we can sell you a pass? Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:41:00 - [12] Edited by: ProphetGuru on 23/08/2004 21:45:24 Thank you for ceding Branch to us. If you guys need to come get stuff out of bkg maybe we can sell you a pass? Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:42:00 - [13] Originally by: Halseth However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. What situation in Venal would that be since Venal has not been occupied at all the last forthnight? We see your defeat, and so do you. No one in here is blind. You came, you saw, you fought.. sometimes, very rarely, and mostly hid in space at unless outnumbering at 2:1. We are still waiting for the mighty R-K to come and spank us, we are still waiting for the 2 weeks that KIAEddz said we would spend in safespots. The mighty RONA with 200 members or more has had ... 1, or at the most, 2... pilots in Venal/Tenal/Branch. R-K used to be valiant fighters who were fearless, now they are scared babies who logon, logoff, logon, logoff, as soon as we get close to them. SLI and NSN has shown more courage then RONA or R-K, and SLI and NSN are mining corps. Get off our land! Edited, keep it firendly -Zhuge
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:42:00 - [14] Originally by: Halseth However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. What situation in Venal would that be since Venal has not been occupied at all the last forthnight? We see your defeat, and so do you. No one in here is blind. You came, you saw, you fought.. sometimes, very rarely, and mostly hid in space at unless outnumbering at 2:1. We are still waiting for the mighty R-K to come and spank us, we are still waiting for the 2 weeks that KIAEddz said we would spend in safespots. The mighty RONA with 200 members or more has had ... 1, or at the most, 2... pilots in Venal/Tenal/Branch. R-K used to be valiant fighters who were fearless, now they are scared babies who logon, logoff, logon, logoff, as soon as we get close to them. SLI and NSN has shown more courage then RONA or R-K, and SLI and NSN are mining corps. Get off our land! Edited, keep it firendly -Zhuge
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:47:00 - [15] In Before The Mods Remove The Pic!
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:47:00 - [16] In Before The Mods Remove The Pic!
TWD	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:48:00 - [17] Edited by: TWD on 23/08/2004 22:19:18 PA has lost the battle in Branch by vacating it. thats 2 regions down, 1 to go. but damn can we hire that video maker?
TWD	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:48:00 - [18] Edited by: TWD on 23/08/2004 22:19:18 PA has lost the battle in Branch by vacating it. thats 2 regions down, 1 to go. but damn can we hire that video maker?
Phonix	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:50:00 - [19] WTS Tenal??? -------------- Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
Phonix	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:50:00 - [20] WTS Tenal??? -------------- Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:51:00 - [21] Heya nice and decent posts! your goind the jade way of posting it seems Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:51:00 - [22] Originally by: Phonix WTS Tenal??? 1mio ? Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:51:00 - [23] Heya nice and decent posts! your goind the jade way of posting it seems Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Phonix WTS Tenal??? 1mio ? Wanna fly with me?
Dyesise	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:53:00 - [25] see it never fails cant even make an honest decent post to the public and ppl got to open there big mouths
Dyesise	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:53:00 - [26] see it never fails cant even make an honest decent post to the public and ppl got to open there big mouths
EternalDark	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:57:00 - [27] Offensive actions always stir up the forum whoring smacktards, go get em PA, wonder how many bs's NORAD has left after what my boys did to em?
EternalDark	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:57:00 - [28] Offensive actions always stir up the forum whoring smacktards, go get em PA, wonder how many bs's NORAD has left after what my boys did to em?
Wraeththu	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:58:00 - [29] Originally by: ProphetGuru 7 pages is my best guess. You're an optimist. I'm going to have to go for 5 I thought it was a nice post though. Popcorn anyone? -- TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range.
Wraeththu	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:58:00 - [30] Originally by: ProphetGuru 7 pages is my best guess. You're an optimist. I'm going to have to go for 5 I thought it was a nice post though. Popcorn anyone? -- TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range.
Xrak	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:59:00 - [31] This has been the most fun that I have had for a long time in eve, and I want more MORE! Xrak DDNN Give-me-pvp B@stard
Xrak	Posted - 2004.08.23 21:59:00 - [32] This has been the most fun that I have had for a long time in eve, and I want more MORE! Xrak DDNN Give-me-pvp B@stard
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:01:00 - [33] Originally by: EternalDark Offensive actions always stir up the forum whoring smacktards, go get em PA, wonder how many bs's NORAD has left after what my boys did to em? nah norad is used to the general pounding, looks like blacklight noob training programm Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:01:00 - [34] Originally by: EternalDark Offensive actions always stir up the forum whoring smacktards, go get em PA, wonder how many bs's NORAD has left after what my boys did to em? nah norad is used to the general pounding, looks like blacklight noob training programm Wanna fly with me?
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:08:00 - [35] Only the PA could not control their former space and say that they are starting offensive operations. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:08:00 - [36] Only the PA could not control their former space and say that they are starting offensive operations. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Melchom	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:11:00 - [37] This war is the best of all wars spezial thx to all trainings ermm whatever CE Killlist
Melchom	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:11:00 - [38] This war is the best of all wars spezial thx to all trainings ermm whatever CE Killlist
ElCoCo	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:14:00 - [39] FEAR THE CONGA!
ElCoCo	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:14:00 - [40] FEAR THE CONGA!
Scorpyn	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:20:00 - [41] That was a VERY good movie I don't care if it's true/false/propaganda/whatever, as I don't know what's actually going on in that area anyway
Scorpyn	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:20:00 - [42] That was a VERY good movie I don't care if it's true/false/propaganda/whatever, as I don't know what's actually going on in that area anyway
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:21:00 - [43] Originally by: Melchom This war is the best of all wars spezial thx to all trainings ermm whatever nahh coolest was FE/m0o versus FA that was hell of a war Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:21:00 - [44] Originally by: Melchom This war is the best of all wars spezial thx to all trainings ermm whatever nahh coolest was FE/m0o versus FA that was hell of a war Wanna fly with me?
Stained	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:29:00 - [45] Aye, the FA war was awesome. PS: Your sig is hawt. ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated.
Stained	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:29:00 - [46] Aye, the FA war was awesome. PS: Your sig is hawt. ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated.
Stained	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:33:00 - [47] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx You sir, are a liar. ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated.
Stained	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:33:00 - [48] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx You sir, are a liar. ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated.
Quarath	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:34:00 - [49] Originally by: Halseth The Phoenix Music: Hans Zimmer - Spectres In The Fog (The Last Samurai OST) Filesize: 29.5 mb File: Rightclick and save as Cool (propaganda) video. Too bad it's sooo much laggy _____________ creator of the territorial map of EVE I do not deal with lesser life forms. ...yes, I'm a lonely g
Quarath	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:34:00 - [50] Originally by: Halseth The Phoenix Music: Hans Zimmer - Spectres In The Fog (The Last Samurai OST) Filesize: 29.5 mb File: Rightclick and save as Cool (propaganda) video. Too bad it's sooo much laggy _____________ creator of the territorial map of EVE I do not deal with lesser life forms. ...yes, I'm a lonely g
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:35:00 - [51] Originally by: Riddari I think Leafo's movies are the only thing keeping the PA moral up Truest post ever. Lots of love. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:35:00 - [52] Originally by: Riddari I think Leafo's movies are the only thing keeping the PA moral up Truest post ever. Lots of love. JF Public Forum
Phonix	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:39:00 - [53] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx ROFL 200 members?? Ahh thats right I forgot there in Yulai building you ships.. -------------- Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
Phonix	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:39:00 - [54] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx ROFL 200 members?? Ahh thats right I forgot there in Yulai building you ships.. -------------- Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:40:00 - [55] Originally by: Stained You sir, are a liar. sigh . Of course I am, I r the enemy. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:40:00 - [56] Originally by: Stained You sir, are a liar. sigh . Of course I am, I r the enemy. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:43:00 - [57] Edited by: KIAEddZ on 23/08/2004 22:51:12 Originally by: Phonix ROFL 200 members?? Ahh thats right I forgot there in Yulai building you ships.. R-K has 30ish members We have on a nightly basis about 15-20 on. At the moment we are down to 10-12 ish because a few of the most active members are on hols :) I am about as far from a liar you'll get. I honestly do not want a smack talking "i r biggest willy" chat (sometimes thats fun). I am just saying it how we see it. I do not govern the PA policy, and i fully support their decision. R-K will remain in Fade and Deklein, you know where we are. We are still doing the do. Business is slower ;), but its still business. Great Vid leafo, expresses how we feel to a tee m8y. Nice post Halseth, but we simply cannot avoid smack i spose. xx http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:43:00 - [58] Edited by: KIAEddZ on 23/08/2004 22:51:12 Originally by: Phonix ROFL 200 members?? Ahh thats right I forgot there in Yulai building you ships.. R-K has 30ish members We have on a nightly basis about 15-20 on. At the moment we are down to 10-12 ish because a few of the most active members are on hols :) I am about as far from a liar you'll get. I honestly do not want a smack talking "i r biggest willy" chat (sometimes thats fun). I am just saying it how we see it. I do not govern the PA policy, and i fully support their decision. R-K will remain in Fade and Deklein, you know where we are. We are still doing the do. Business is slower ;), but its still business. Great Vid leafo, expresses how we feel to a tee m8y. Nice post Halseth, but we simply cannot avoid smack i spose. xx http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:44:00 - [59] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx well you carry on telling yourself that, i suppose you have alot of time to think up speeches whilst sitting at those out of system bookmarks
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:44:00 - [60] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx well you carry on telling yourself that, i suppose you have alot of time to think up speeches whilst sitting at those out of system bookmarks
Lunaticdie04	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:45:00 - [61] :) <<<Turn that into lies you ebil ebil liars.
Lunaticdie04	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:45:00 - [62] :) <<<Turn that into lies you ebil ebil liars.
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:46:00 - [63] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 22:48:03 Quote: xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx Hey Faramir, if you still have that quote about Eddz by his corpmates, I think nows a really good time to post it
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:46:00 - [64] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 22:48:03 Quote: xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx Hey Faramir, if you still have that quote about Eddz by his corpmates, I think nows a really good time to post it
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:47:00 - [65] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx Uhm Eddz, how would you know? We seen you in BKG 2 times in 3 months. Both times were when PA and us were in LARGE fleetbattles with about 20 of us and usually 30-40 of PA. Then you came running, when the battles were more or less over, and dtayed for exactly 5 minutes, and then left again. Third time was 20 minutes ago, when you sent 10 bships into BKG, stayed for 3 minutes (the time it took for us to refit to pvp gear) and then ran like mad all the way to CZD where you all safespotted. 2 regions down, 1 to go. Get off our land.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:47:00 - [66] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx Uhm Eddz, how would you know? We seen you in BKG 2 times in 3 months. Both times were when PA and us were in LARGE fleetbattles with about 20 of us and usually 30-40 of PA. Then you came running, when the battles were more or less over, and dtayed for exactly 5 minutes, and then left again. Third time was 20 minutes ago, when you sent 10 bships into BKG, stayed for 3 minutes (the time it took for us to refit to pvp gear) and then ran like mad all the way to CZD where you all safespotted. 2 regions down, 1 to go. Get off our land.
bUBbLeS	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:49:00 - [67] (btw leafo your movies ROCK) cAKe Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
bUBbLeS	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:49:00 - [68] (btw leafo your movies ROCK) cAKe Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:49:00 - [69] Originally by: Kalast Raven Nice snide remark Riddari. Come back and talk when you have something to say. Well what I should have said was that Leafo has with his movies managed to do A LOT of damage limitation for the PA. Damage which Halseth manages to inflict on his alliance in just about every posting. Except for when he retracts his statements and says it was all a joke... Make Leafo the PR representative of the PA and you'll see your stock skyrocket. ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:49:00 - [70] Originally by: Kalast Raven Nice snide remark Riddari. Come back and talk when you have something to say. Well what I should have said was that Leafo has with his movies managed to do A LOT of damage limitation for the PA. Damage which Halseth manages to inflict on his alliance in just about every posting. Except for when he retracts his statements and says it was all a joke... Make Leafo the PR representative of the PA and you'll see your stock skyrocket. ¼©¼ a history
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:50:00 - [71] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Phonix ROFL 200 members?? Ahh thats right I forgot there in Yulai building you ships.. R-K has 30ish members Yeah sure
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:50:00 - [72] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Phonix ROFL 200 members?? Ahh thats right I forgot there in Yulai building you ships.. R-K has 30ish members Yeah sure
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:52:00 - [73] Sorry 30 "active" members. xx Molle. We had 9 battleships, you chase us down with 15+, what on earth did you expect.? We did what we set out to achieve. Chill out m8, you way too stressed. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:52:00 - [74] Sorry 30 "active" members. xx Molle. We had 9 battleships, you chase us down with 15+, what on earth did you expect.? We did what we set out to achieve. Chill out m8, you way too stressed. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Presidio	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:58:00 - [75] heh, great war indeed. time for the "map reload" though like Halseth said. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Presidio	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:58:00 - [76] heh, great war indeed. time for the "map reload" though like Halseth said. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:59:00 - [77] Originally by: KIAEddZ Sorry 30 "active" members. xx Molle. We had 9 battleships, you chase us down with 15+, what on earth did you expect.? We did what we set out to achieve. Chill out m8, you way too stressed. I don't want to upset you EddZ, but you are going to have to face Evolution one day you know. You can't just keep running away and counting on me giving you Ares and Apoc kills! JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.23 22:59:00 - [78] Originally by: KIAEddZ Sorry 30 "active" members. xx Molle. We had 9 battleships, you chase us down with 15+, what on earth did you expect.? We did what we set out to achieve. Chill out m8, you way too stressed. I don't want to upset you EddZ, but you are going to have to face Evolution one day you know. You can't just keep running away and counting on me giving you Ares and Apoc kills! JF Public Forum
Shrike	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:00:00 - [79] Golden quotes collection #1; Quote: [ 2004.08.19 18:08:35 ] Canis Lupus > We're holding, traveling towards the station. BATTLESHIPS: IMMEDIATELY TURN AND POINT AT SAFESPOTS, MAX VELOCITY upon warp in. Engage enemy second. PA fleet commander, BKG, outnumbering us with 22 to 4. Quote: [ 2004.08.19 18:42:21 ] Canis Lupus > I count 20 battleships on our side presently. [ 2004.08.19 18:42:25 ] Ignix > 5 hostiles in local Golden quotes collection #2; Quote: [ 2004.08.19 22:25:06 ] Venusillusia > why do I not see anyone on the map in K-8 [ 2004.08.19 22:25:23 ] Acks > because they all logged off when evol came into system R-K, the mighty, as to why we never see them. Golden quotes collection #3; Quote: [ 2004.08.19 23:35:33 ] anyholesagoal > ok hate to say this but i realy think evol would beet us in a fare fight [ 2004.08.19 23:35:44 ] anyholesagoal > one day we will ahve to fight them [ 2004.08.19 23:39:10 ] anyholesagoal > well we cant take evol on Random ramblings from within Rona-Kia. Now let me ask PA this as well, how can you let R-K sit idle and hide and happily mine and npc hunt, while you have been forced to sit on your asses in BKG for 4 weeks? And now let me ask mr Eddz, when he is going to deliver on his threat; Quote: KIAEddZ > now you guys do what your going to be doing a whole lot for the next 2 weeks at least. sit at your safe spots or log ... wanna deliver on your words Eddz? Anytime soon? Get off our land.
Shrike	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:00:00 - [80] Golden quotes collection #1; Quote: [ 2004.08.19 18:08:35 ] Canis Lupus > We're holding, traveling towards the station. BATTLESHIPS: IMMEDIATELY TURN AND POINT AT SAFESPOTS, MAX VELOCITY upon warp in. Engage enemy second. PA fleet commander, BKG, outnumbering us with 22 to 4. Quote: [ 2004.08.19 18:42:21 ] Canis Lupus > I count 20 battleships on our side presently. [ 2004.08.19 18:42:25 ] Ignix > 5 hostiles in local Golden quotes collection #2; Quote: [ 2004.08.19 22:25:06 ] Venusillusia > why do I not see anyone on the map in K-8 [ 2004.08.19 22:25:23 ] Acks > because they all logged off when evol came into system R-K, the mighty, as to why we never see them. Golden quotes collection #3; Quote: [ 2004.08.19 23:35:33 ] anyholesagoal > ok hate to say this but i realy think evol would beet us in a fare fight [ 2004.08.19 23:35:44 ] anyholesagoal > one day we will ahve to fight them [ 2004.08.19 23:39:10 ] anyholesagoal > well we cant take evol on Random ramblings from within Rona-Kia. Now let me ask PA this as well, how can you let R-K sit idle and hide and happily mine and npc hunt, while you have been forced to sit on your asses in BKG for 4 weeks? And now let me ask mr Eddz, when he is going to deliver on his threat; Quote: KIAEddZ > now you guys do what your going to be doing a whole lot for the next 2 weeks at least. sit at your safe spots or log ... wanna deliver on your words Eddz? Anytime soon? Get off our land.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:04:00 - [81] Quote: I am about as far from a liar you'll get. Im still waitin to sit at my safespot for 2 weeks Eddz.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:04:00 - [82] Quote: I am about as far from a liar you'll get. Im still waitin to sit at my safespot for 2 weeks Eddz.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:08:00 - [83] Originally by: KIAEddZ Sorry Molle. We had 9 battleships, you chase us down with 15+, what on earth did you expect.? We did what we set out to achieve. Chill out m8, you way too stressed. And your goal was to jump 11 jumps, turn around, and then jump another 11 back, and then safespot? You guys amuse me.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:08:00 - [84] Originally by: KIAEddZ Sorry Molle. We had 9 battleships, you chase us down with 15+, what on earth did you expect.? We did what we set out to achieve. Chill out m8, you way too stressed. And your goal was to jump 11 jumps, turn around, and then jump another 11 back, and then safespot? You guys amuse me.
SuperCharger	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:13:00 - [85] well the war gave me something to do until shiva :) ----------------------------------- Your 250mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Blood Arch Engraver, wrecking for 430.3 damage.
SuperCharger	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:13:00 - [86] well the war gave me something to do until shiva :) ----------------------------------- Your 250mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Blood Arch Engraver, wrecking for 430.3 damage.
sutty	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:16:00 - [87] Edited by: sutty on 23/08/2004 23:17:29 Im pretty sure we would engage 11 vs 16, I know m0o would and have on many occasions fought much greater numbers and won
sutty	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:16:00 - [88] Edited by: sutty on 23/08/2004 23:17:29 Im pretty sure we would engage 11 vs 16, I know m0o would and have on many occasions fought much greater numbers and won
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:17:00 - [89] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx Eddz, you came to BKG with loads and loads. You outnumbereed us by far and oh man were you guys full of spirit. You and R-K even personally came over to boast. Your quote even resembles that. But thankfully D'artagan (or Artegg) your own corpmate and as far as i know a "high up" in r-K/PA told us not to listen to you. Here's a quote from CZDJ local(feeaturing your quote from BKG local): BobGhengisKhan > KIAEddZ > now you guys do what your going to be doing a whole lot for the next 2 weeks at least. sit at your safe spots or log D'Artagnan > yes but dont bring a gun to a knife fight and also Eddz hardly plays so dont listne to him D'Artagnan > also he has a big mouth:) Now we alrdy thought so... I'm glad your corpmates share our opinion.
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:17:00 - [90] Originally by: KIAEddZ xx Molle Unfotunately you outumber us 2-1 at least in BKG, and wont come out of your hole unless you ar at least the same odds. We desperately want to give you guys go, but your insistance on outnumbering us so largely in any potential battles,leaves us very little option other than safe spot and log. We got love for you guys though. xxxx Eddz, you came to BKG with loads and loads. You outnumbereed us by far and oh man were you guys full of spirit. You and R-K even personally came over to boast. Your quote even resembles that. But thankfully D'artagan (or Artegg) your own corpmate and as far as i know a "high up" in r-K/PA told us not to listen to you. Here's a quote from CZDJ local(feeaturing your quote from BKG local): BobGhengisKhan > KIAEddZ > now you guys do what your going to be doing a whole lot for the next 2 weeks at least. sit at your safe spots or log D'Artagnan > yes but dont bring a gun to a knife fight and also Eddz hardly plays so dont listne to him D'Artagnan > also he has a big mouth:) Now we alrdy thought so... I'm glad your corpmates share our opinion.
Reptar	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:17:00 - [91] I could not be happier with the PA, so many targets, so much action, so little time, and i know i am fighting the Good Fight!
Reptar	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:17:00 - [92] I could not be happier with the PA, so many targets, so much action, so little time, and i know i am fighting the Good Fight!
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:20:00 - [93] Edited by: Jakal on 23/08/2004 23:22:38 Originally by: KIAEddZ Sorry 30 "active" members. xx Molle. We had 9 battleships, you chase us down with 15+, what on earth did you expect.? We did what we set out to achieve. Chill out m8, you way too stressed. You could have tried to fight us as we undocked, it's what we would have done, but you were at the station for maybe 2 mins then you all insta-jumped your way back to CZD. Was killing 1 stower really the objective of a 13 pilot fleet? -Adapt and Overcome.
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:20:00 - [94] Edited by: Jakal on 23/08/2004 23:22:38 Originally by: KIAEddZ Sorry 30 "active" members. xx Molle. We had 9 battleships, you chase us down with 15+, what on earth did you expect.? We did what we set out to achieve. Chill out m8, you way too stressed. You could have tried to fight us as we undocked, it's what we would have done, but you were at the station for maybe 2 mins then you all insta-jumped your way back to CZD. Was killing 1 stower really the objective of a 13 pilot fleet? -Adapt and Overcome.
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:21:00 - [95] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 23:23:02 Quote: remember Obe (m0o) I remember it as the lamest week in Eve, ever. 10 scorps sitting outside the station waiting for someone with -9 to undock, the rest of the corp helpless to do anything because BMC never left range of the sentries. We tried to get some fights in 0.0, but I dont ever remember getting one. Everyone was just discouraged that your sec statuses were decent. I think we lost 2 battleships and only killed 1. It was a victory for you I suppose, but it was really, really ***.
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:21:00 - [96] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 23:23:02 Quote: remember Obe (m0o) I remember it as the lamest week in Eve, ever. 10 scorps sitting outside the station waiting for someone with -9 to undock, the rest of the corp helpless to do anything because BMC never left range of the sentries. We tried to get some fights in 0.0, but I dont ever remember getting one. Everyone was just discouraged that your sec statuses were decent. I think we lost 2 battleships and only killed 1. It was a victory for you I suppose, but it was really, really ***.
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:21:00 - [97] We will Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:21:00 - [98] We will Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:23:00 - [99] I remember FE handing it to you on a plate ... The Rev losing his BS outside the DED station because Zip warped away ... Hush ... no more "please pay or else" and bring it on ...... I think most noobs can find us Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:23:00 - [100] I remember FE handing it to you on a plate ... The Rev losing his BS outside the DED station because Zip warped away ... Hush ... no more "please pay or else" and bring it on ...... I think most noobs can find us Mongo speaks !!
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:24:00 - [101] Originally by: Mongo Peck We will will what? cancle your account? good. -Adapt and Overcome.
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:24:00 - [102] Originally by: Mongo Peck We will will what? cancle your account? good. -Adapt and Overcome.
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:24:00 - [103] You wish ...... maybe finally a victory Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:24:00 - [104] You wish ...... maybe finally a victory Mongo speaks !!
sutty	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:25:00 - [105] Edited by: sutty on 23/08/2004 23:28:22 Indeed you also sat in empire space where we couldn't engage till you had enough numbers to attack. The problem was that we have people with really bad ratings so we had no where to go, as back through the gate would of meant losses. Your time will come TPS OH and mongo didn't we kill like you and some other battleships about 1 month ago.
sutty	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:25:00 - [106] Edited by: sutty on 23/08/2004 23:28:22 Indeed you also sat in empire space where we couldn't engage till you had enough numbers to attack. The problem was that we have people with really bad ratings so we had no where to go, as back through the gate would of meant losses. Your time will come TPS OH and mongo didn't we kill like you and some other battleships about 1 month ago.
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:27:00 - [107] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 23:34:47 2 to 1 over a week constitutes a victory, but "OMG WTFPWNED?" (I mean, if we go one day without at least 6 or 7 battleships killed, there's something wrong) It was just lame, but whatever. We've made it up substantially since. It will still go down as the ***est week ever. Your guys would sit in one spot for 14 hr stretches, as compared to our corp, who log off and do other things if theres no one to shoot in 15 minutes. I'm ruining the thread I think, I will stop
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:27:00 - [108] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 23:34:47 2 to 1 over a week constitutes a victory, but "OMG WTFPWNED?" (I mean, if we go one day without at least 6 or 7 battleships killed, there's something wrong) It was just lame, but whatever. We've made it up substantially since. It will still go down as the ***est week ever. Your guys would sit in one spot for 14 hr stretches, as compared to our corp, who log off and do other things if theres no one to shoot in 15 minutes. I'm ruining the thread I think, I will stop
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:27:00 - [109] Yawn ... and FE never had anyone with less than 0.0 rating .. Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:27:00 - [110] Yawn ... and FE never had anyone with less than 0.0 rating .. Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:29:00 - [111] I not saying anything about "wpwndyou" but cut the "pay or else rubbish" and bring it down ... even you with JF leading the way should be able to find us .. Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:29:00 - [112] I not saying anything about "wpwndyou" but cut the "pay or else rubbish" and bring it down ... even you with JF leading the way should be able to find us .. Mongo speaks !!
TWD	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:34:00 - [113] Edited by: TWD on 23/08/2004 23:37:05 mongo, remember this? LINKEY gankage after a nice battle at the incoming gate :D
TWD	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:34:00 - [114] Edited by: TWD on 23/08/2004 23:37:05 mongo, remember this? LINKEY gankage after a nice battle at the incoming gate :D
fuze	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:35:00 - [115] True great video Music choice was fine (even for Hans Zimmer) Story was epic The cutting was so in balance with the music This has to be the best vid ever next to the one the Eve Guardian made. The Burgerking resort is nice but not nearly as good as The Phoenix Props to the maker, a true skilled artist yet again peeking But you guys know what happened to the Samurai at the end? So you're choice of music couldn't have been better, even your subconsciousness already knows. ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts!
fuze	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:35:00 - [116] True great video Music choice was fine (even for Hans Zimmer) Story was epic The cutting was so in balance with the music This has to be the best vid ever next to the one the Eve Guardian made. The Burgerking resort is nice but not nearly as good as The Phoenix Props to the maker, a true skilled artist yet again peeking But you guys know what happened to the Samurai at the end? So you're choice of music couldn't have been better, even your subconsciousness already knows. ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts!
Sewell	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:38:00 - [117] I have been busy with RL lately, but I must say that the best thing with this war is our honest and honurable opponents who resolve all diffrences with the PA in-game, not smacktalking or spamming our eve-o threads with flames just for the hell of it. It feels good to have a nice and clean fight once in a while. Good game NCA/EVOL/etc!
Sewell	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:38:00 - [118] I have been busy with RL lately, but I must say that the best thing with this war is our honest and honurable opponents who resolve all diffrences with the PA in-game, not smacktalking or spamming our eve-o threads with flames just for the hell of it. It feels good to have a nice and clean fight once in a while. Good game NCA/EVOL/etc!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:40:00 - [119] Oh yes ... the test Geddon off death ... when "alone" I decided to test a few setups at the station alone knowing you were their ...... I must admitt I am impressed "how many ships did you have in gang" ........ Note to self ...... m0o impressed by a 21 to 1 ratio ... noobs Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:40:00 - [120] Oh yes ... the test Geddon off death ... when "alone" I decided to test a few setups at the station alone knowing you were their ...... I must admitt I am impressed "how many ships did you have in gang" ........ Note to self ...... m0o impressed by a 21 to 1 ratio ... noobs Mongo speaks !!
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:42:00 - [121] Originally by: Mongo Peck You wish ...... maybe finally a victory 2004.07.14 20:24:00 For your termination of Mongo Peck we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 1 ISK Remember that battle at the gate? yes, you were outnumbered. But you chose to fight (and face the consequences)
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:42:00 - [122] Originally by: Mongo Peck You wish ...... maybe finally a victory 2004.07.14 20:24:00 For your termination of Mongo Peck we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 1 ISK Remember that battle at the gate? yes, you were outnumbered. But you chose to fight (and face the consequences)
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:43:00 - [123] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 23:45:16 No, tbh I think this is the first time anyone from our corp has ever posted a screenshot where we outnumber someone and kill them. The only reason I think it was posted is because you are running your mouth saying we got "schooled" because you ganked 2 of our guys a couple of months ago in situations similar to the screenshot, and we only managed to catch 1 God damn I'm glad we left you all to die in Fountain.
BobGhengisKhan	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:43:00 - [124] Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 23:45:16 No, tbh I think this is the first time anyone from our corp has ever posted a screenshot where we outnumber someone and kill them. The only reason I think it was posted is because you are running your mouth saying we got "schooled" because you ganked 2 of our guys a couple of months ago in situations similar to the screenshot, and we only managed to catch 1 God damn I'm glad we left you all to die in Fountain.
Dendron	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:47:00 - [125] Great post and movie! Keep 'em coming!
Dendron	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:47:00 - [126] Great post and movie! Keep 'em coming!
Stained	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:48:00 - [127] I think I detect a hint of jealousy fromm Mongo?? Go hug your alliance buddy's ya twit. ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated.
Stained	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:48:00 - [128] I think I detect a hint of jealousy fromm Mongo?? Go hug your alliance buddy's ya twit. ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated.
Nilit	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:55:00 - [129] Quote: heh, great war indeed. time for the "map reload" though like Halseth said. Next map : cs_venal ! w00t ! Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying
Nilit	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:55:00 - [130] Quote: heh, great war indeed. time for the "map reload" though like Halseth said. Next map : cs_venal ! w00t ! Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:00:00 - [131] We're not hard to find now are we. Of course, we don't hide behind sentry guns, so I can understand your reluctance. Plz respond here with yap yap, or some other pointless trivial catchline that wore out 6months ago and is about as relevant to a conversation as Biomass Cartel is to Eve. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:00:00 - [132] We're not hard to find now are we. Of course, we don't hide behind sentry guns, so I can understand your reluctance. Plz respond here with yap yap, or some other pointless trivial catchline that wore out 6months ago and is about as relevant to a conversation as Biomass Cartel is to Eve. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Rolly Polly	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:01:00 - [133] Leafo... has left me without words, again Tis a good war fairly clean and everybody is having fun
Rolly Polly	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:01:00 - [134] Leafo... has left me without words, again Tis a good war fairly clean and everybody is having fun
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:05:00 - [135] Anyway .... back to orginal post ......if you want to "shout I'm bad" please message me ingame Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:05:00 - [136] Anyway .... back to orginal post ......if you want to "shout I'm bad" please message me ingame Mongo speaks !!
Dyesise	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:07:00 - [137] and the big mouth wagon rolls onand on and on
Dyesise	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:07:00 - [138] and the big mouth wagon rolls onand on and on
whejl	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:08:00 - [139] Thumbs up!
whejl	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:08:00 - [140] Thumbs up!
dethanor	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:10:00 - [141] wow leafo what can i say? that was bloody brilliant! reminds me why i`m proud to be in the phoenix alliance p.s. please keep flaming i`m having real trouble getting to sleep and you guys are better than any medication ive tried There is no art more beautiful nor diverse than the art of death!!! Oberon Tech II Sales.
dethanor	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:10:00 - [142] wow leafo what can i say? that was bloody brilliant! reminds me why i`m proud to be in the phoenix alliance p.s. please keep flaming i`m having real trouble getting to sleep and you guys are better than any medication ive tried There is no art more beautiful nor diverse than the art of death!!! Oberon Tech II Sales.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:11:00 - [143] How on earth has this discussion turned into monsieur "motor-mouth" Mongo rapid-fire posting his way to common derision? What does the PA delusion have to do with TPS? I thought you guys weren't holding hands at all at the moment Mongo? JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:11:00 - [144] How on earth has this discussion turned into monsieur "motor-mouth" Mongo rapid-fire posting his way to common derision? What does the PA delusion have to do with TPS? I thought you guys weren't holding hands at all at the moment Mongo? JF Public Forum
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:11:00 - [145] Quote: and the big mouth wagon rolls onand on and on Big words from a 7 week old, I shouldn't post as my main, the big boys may get me alt. Hate me (I may even agree after my normal x amounts of Guniness), whatever but have the balls to post as your main. Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:11:00 - [146] Quote: and the big mouth wagon rolls onand on and on Big words from a 7 week old, I shouldn't post as my main, the big boys may get me alt. Hate me (I may even agree after my normal x amounts of Guniness), whatever but have the balls to post as your main. Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:13:00 - [147] Well I was led to believe the TPS and PA were in bed like m0o and JF .. Were you miss-leading the public again Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:13:00 - [148] Well I was led to believe the TPS and PA were in bed like m0o and JF .. Were you miss-leading the public again Mongo speaks !!
simcor	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:18:00 - [149] Sweet movie sir
simcor	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:18:00 - [150] Sweet movie sir
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:20:00 - [151] Originally by: Mongo Peck Well I was led to believe the TPS and PA were in bed like m0o and JF .. Were you miss-leading the public again Well put it this way Mongo ... I do find the m0o catchphrase "hey PA, BLAM BLAM BLAM, SPLAT" rather more impressive than "YAP YAP YAP". But maybe thats just me ;) JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:20:00 - [152] Originally by: Mongo Peck Well I was led to believe the TPS and PA were in bed like m0o and JF .. Were you miss-leading the public again Well put it this way Mongo ... I do find the m0o catchphrase "hey PA, BLAM BLAM BLAM, SPLAT" rather more impressive than "YAP YAP YAP". But maybe thats just me ;) JF Public Forum
Nilit	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:43:00 - [153] http://users.tpg.com.au/nilit/feed_troll.jpg cough While the message carried by the picture is a good one, posting of images is not allowed on the boards. -Omniscience Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying
Nilit	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:43:00 - [154] http://users.tpg.com.au/nilit/feed_troll.jpg cough While the message carried by the picture is a good one, posting of images is not allowed on the boards. -Omniscience Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying
Lowa	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:44:00 - [155] The day I leave the PA its the day I stop playing!* Leafo that was realy realy sweet man, I'm all fuzzy and warm now. Regards, LOWA - Vail, Colorado. Nice place! * Yes, that is quotable and you are all welcome to use it if by any chance I dont follow my own voice. Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby!
Lowa	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:44:00 - [156] The day I leave the PA its the day I stop playing!* Leafo that was realy realy sweet man, I'm all fuzzy and warm now. Regards, LOWA - Vail, Colorado. Nice place! * Yes, that is quotable and you are all welcome to use it if by any chance I dont follow my own voice. Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby!
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.24 01:09:00 - [157] Edited by: Omniwar on 24/08/2004 01:16:00 Dont take it personally that even though you had 17 in local while we killed in one system and we had 4 battleships 1 cruiser and 3 frigates and we killed : Pera1 - Huff Technologies - Raven - D7-ZAC - 2004-08-23 22:52:00 Kittys Fire - Huff Technologies - Scorpion - D7-ZAC - 2004-08-23 22:51:00 madd cat - DreamSmiths - Apocalypse - D7-ZAC - 2004-08-23 22:50:00 Rocky Spaceman - Vogon Deconstruction Fleet - Tempest - D7-ZAC - 2004-08-23 22:47:00 Plus some cruisers and frigates which we do not log, they were all cought at either station, gate or in belts and no resistance was ever made against us and those whom we did not find in time left to safespots or instadocked. When we entered local we cought one pilot at the gate and he was crying for help and only 1 rupture (Rockys Hoe) warped in to the gate but not to help him it seemed since he said Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:27:55 ] Rockys Hoe > hey u! let me go =/ when we scrambled him and killed his ship, we then scanned for more ships and cought madd cat Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:32:31 ] madd cat > hey guys stop no one came to anyones aid while we travelled unmolested and killed 6 battleships, several cruisers and loads of frigates in your own space. And also : Fuglife Rev0luti0n Megathron H-W9TY Group no 2004-08-23 20:51:00 Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:54:21 ] Fuglife > man [ 2004.08.23 20:54:27 ] Fuglife > i didnt get insurace [ 2004.08.23 20:55:38 ] Fuglife > that was fun [ 2004.08.23 20:55:45 ] Fuglife > bastardos [ 2004.08.23 20:57:37 ] Fuglife > RefID:1194961676 Your friendly insurance company has transferred 42000000 ISK into your account for the recent loss of your ship. This message is a notification of the default payout for an uninsured ship. If you are interested in better insurance then please visit a station with an Insurance Service for further details. Pincess Catpower - Shadow Squadron - Typhoon - H-W9TY - 2004-08-23 20:43:00 Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:52:31 ] Soraya Silvermoon > For your termination of Pincess Catpower we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 2,181,655 ISK Then you send me an evemail : Quote: 2004.08.23 23:20:00 Lets stop the "is this your station" and bring it on again for the next few months....... Mongo Now do not be acting all big and mighty on the forums man after your alliance ran to safe and ignored their mates after asking for help in local. Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:23:46 ] Rocky Spaceman > moo at wh-jca gate NOW!!! [ 2004.08.23 20:23:50 ] Momaw Nadon > something wrong in my ship [ 2004.08.23 20:24:05 ] Rocky Spaceman > GET HERE NOW!!! [ 2004.08.23 20:24:05 ] madd cat > like what [ 2004.08.23 20:24:20 ] Momaw Nadon > cap doesnt recharge [ 2004.08.23 20:24:26 ] madd cat > mmm [ 2004.08.23 20:27:29 ] Widjet > /emote waves [ 2004.08.23 20:27:34 ] Widjet > hi fellas :D [ 2004.08.23 20:27:55 ] Rockys Hoe > hey u! let me go =/ [ 2004.08.23 20:29:06 ] Pera1 > you guys ok? [ 2004.08.23 20:29:21 ] Momaw Nadon > yup [ 2004.08.23 20:29:28 ] Pera1 > k [ 2004.08.23 20:32:31 ] madd cat > hey guys stop So how's them apples ? *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.24 01:09:00 - [158] Edited by: Omniwar on 24/08/2004 01:16:00 Dont take it personally that even though you had 17 in local while we killed in one system and we had 4 battleships 1 cruiser and 3 frigates and we killed : Pera1 - Huff Technologies - Raven - D7-ZAC - 2004-08-23 22:52:00 Kittys Fire - Huff Technologies - Scorpion - D7-ZAC - 2004-08-23 22:51:00 madd cat - DreamSmiths - Apocalypse - D7-ZAC - 2004-08-23 22:50:00 Rocky Spaceman - Vogon Deconstruction Fleet - Tempest - D7-ZAC - 2004-08-23 22:47:00 Plus some cruisers and frigates which we do not log, they were all cought at either station, gate or in belts and no resistance was ever made against us and those whom we did not find in time left to safespots or instadocked. When we entered local we cought one pilot at the gate and he was crying for help and only 1 rupture (Rockys Hoe) warped in to the gate but not to help him it seemed since he said Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:27:55 ] Rockys Hoe > hey u! let me go =/ when we scrambled him and killed his ship, we then scanned for more ships and cought madd cat Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:32:31 ] madd cat > hey guys stop no one came to anyones aid while we travelled unmolested and killed 6 battleships, several cruisers and loads of frigates in your own space. And also : Fuglife Rev0luti0n Megathron H-W9TY Group no 2004-08-23 20:51:00 Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:54:21 ] Fuglife > man [ 2004.08.23 20:54:27 ] Fuglife > i didnt get insurace [ 2004.08.23 20:55:38 ] Fuglife > that was fun [ 2004.08.23 20:55:45 ] Fuglife > bastardos [ 2004.08.23 20:57:37 ] Fuglife > RefID:1194961676 Your friendly insurance company has transferred 42000000 ISK into your account for the recent loss of your ship. This message is a notification of the default payout for an uninsured ship. If you are interested in better insurance then please visit a station with an Insurance Service for further details. Pincess Catpower - Shadow Squadron - Typhoon - H-W9TY - 2004-08-23 20:43:00 Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:52:31 ] Soraya Silvermoon > For your termination of Pincess Catpower we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 2,181,655 ISK Then you send me an evemail : Quote: 2004.08.23 23:20:00 Lets stop the "is this your station" and bring it on again for the next few months....... Mongo Now do not be acting all big and mighty on the forums man after your alliance ran to safe and ignored their mates after asking for help in local. Quote: [ 2004.08.23 20:23:46 ] Rocky Spaceman > moo at wh-jca gate NOW!!! [ 2004.08.23 20:23:50 ] Momaw Nadon > something wrong in my ship [ 2004.08.23 20:24:05 ] Rocky Spaceman > GET HERE NOW!!! [ 2004.08.23 20:24:05 ] madd cat > like what [ 2004.08.23 20:24:20 ] Momaw Nadon > cap doesnt recharge [ 2004.08.23 20:24:26 ] madd cat > mmm [ 2004.08.23 20:27:29 ] Widjet > /emote waves [ 2004.08.23 20:27:34 ] Widjet > hi fellas :D [ 2004.08.23 20:27:55 ] Rockys Hoe > hey u! let me go =/ [ 2004.08.23 20:29:06 ] Pera1 > you guys ok? [ 2004.08.23 20:29:21 ] Momaw Nadon > yup [ 2004.08.23 20:29:28 ] Pera1 > k [ 2004.08.23 20:32:31 ] madd cat > hey guys stop So how's them apples ? *Spawn of the Devil*
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.24 01:10:00 - [159] Aye, Leafo, nice vid. Good morale boost for PA I must say. But no worries, we have our kill lists for that purpose =) -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.24 01:10:00 - [160] Aye, Leafo, nice vid. Good morale boost for PA I must say. But no worries, we have our kill lists for that purpose =) -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Methadroid	Posted - 2004.08.24 01:24:00 - [161] Nice video Leafo, As usual. And a nice post Halseth. See ya all on the Battlefield. -------------------------------------------------- I have no sig :(
Methadroid	Posted - 2004.08.24 01:24:00 - [162] Nice video Leafo, As usual. And a nice post Halseth. See ya all on the Battlefield. -------------------------------------------------- I have no sig :(
Dyesise	Posted - 2004.08.24 01:41:00 - [163] Quote: Big words from a 7 week old, I shouldn't post as my main, the big boys may get me alt. this is my main and ill say what i like when i like and ure name defo fits mongo so back off and leave the post in peace for some not involved might want to read it as some arent involved its good to get a lil news of whats going on from all sides so if nuggets wanna flame go make another post and leave the pa and the the nca posts like this one alone so can be read without having to listen to trained monkey,s blabber on
Dyesise	Posted - 2004.08.24 01:41:00 - [164] Quote: Big words from a 7 week old, I shouldn't post as my main, the big boys may get me alt. this is my main and ill say what i like when i like and ure name defo fits mongo so back off and leave the post in peace for some not involved might want to read it as some arent involved its good to get a lil news of whats going on from all sides so if nuggets wanna flame go make another post and leave the pa and the the nca posts like this one alone so can be read without having to listen to trained monkey,s blabber on
Hawkings SJ	Posted - 2004.08.24 02:04:00 - [165] Quote: I don't want to upset you EddZ, but you are going to have to face Evolution one day you know. You can't just keep running away and counting on me giving you Ares and Apoc kills! I don't want to upset you Jade, but your going to have to face the PA one day you know. You can't just keep camping in EC-p8r and lose your ares and apocs.
Hawkings SJ	Posted - 2004.08.24 02:04:00 - [166] Quote: I don't want to upset you EddZ, but you are going to have to face Evolution one day you know. You can't just keep running away and counting on me giving you Ares and Apoc kills! I don't want to upset you Jade, but your going to have to face the PA one day you know. You can't just keep camping in EC-p8r and lose your ares and apocs.
Reassor	Posted - 2004.08.24 02:23:00 - [167] awesome movie ... now i will tell ya why pa is not engaging when even have sime more numbers ... COZ ... i will just give an example : -pa have 20bss in spot -m0ovolution have 12 at station ... pa warping in and now local rising by 20 and we see 30vs20 so now u see why we allways try to get real numbers? and yeah thats killed my morale (this gang chat log) now its at -234234 can u ppl some times stop troling and just enjoy teh war? thx
Reassor	Posted - 2004.08.24 02:23:00 - [168] awesome movie ... now i will tell ya why pa is not engaging when even have sime more numbers ... COZ ... i will just give an example : -pa have 20bss in spot -m0ovolution have 12 at station ... pa warping in and now local rising by 20 and we see 30vs20 so now u see why we allways try to get real numbers? and yeah thats killed my morale (this gang chat log) now its at -234234 can u ppl some times stop troling and just enjoy teh war? thx
Mortuus	Posted - 2004.08.24 02:40:00 - [169] Awesome vid as always. Great press release. As for m0ovolution, their actual numbers are never whats in local, you engage them and 10+ more log in. FU/CoD sometimes send some targets into the hpa area, but they in no way control Venal. Get used to it NCA, there is no way to defeat us if we don't leave. Measuring kill lists doesn't make us go away, just like it hasn't made FU and CoD vanish. Lord knows those guys take a worse beating than us every day. Alexandra, I should be back in a couple of days to play with your boys in Empire. Has been a lot of fun and the most pleasent fights of the war. No forum trolling smacktards down there.
Mortuus	Posted - 2004.08.24 02:40:00 - [170] Awesome vid as always. Great press release. As for m0ovolution, their actual numbers are never whats in local, you engage them and 10+ more log in. FU/CoD sometimes send some targets into the hpa area, but they in no way control Venal. Get used to it NCA, there is no way to defeat us if we don't leave. Measuring kill lists doesn't make us go away, just like it hasn't made FU and CoD vanish. Lord knows those guys take a worse beating than us every day. Alexandra, I should be back in a couple of days to play with your boys in Empire. Has been a lot of fun and the most pleasent fights of the war. No forum trolling smacktards down there.
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:07:00 - [171] Originally by: Reassor awesome movie ... now i will tell ya why pa is not engaging when even have sime more numbers ... COZ ... i will just give an example : -pa have 20bss in spot -m0ovolution have 12 at station ... pa warping in and now local rising by 20 and we see 30vs20 so now u see why we allways try to get real numbers? and yeah thats killed my morale (this gang chat log) now its at -234234 can u ppl some times stop troling and just enjoy teh war? thx you forgot to mention you had like 20 support ships in that fight and we had like 5. its fun telling half the story, no? -Adapt and Overcome.
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:07:00 - [172] Originally by: Reassor awesome movie ... now i will tell ya why pa is not engaging when even have sime more numbers ... COZ ... i will just give an example : -pa have 20bss in spot -m0ovolution have 12 at station ... pa warping in and now local rising by 20 and we see 30vs20 so now u see why we allways try to get real numbers? and yeah thats killed my morale (this gang chat log) now its at -234234 can u ppl some times stop troling and just enjoy teh war? thx you forgot to mention you had like 20 support ships in that fight and we had like 5. its fun telling half the story, no? -Adapt and Overcome.
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:12:00 - [173] Originally by: SirMolle SLI and NSN has shown more courage then RONA or R-K, and SLI and NSN are mining corps. awsome movie //Rec
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:12:00 - [174] Originally by: SirMolle SLI and NSN has shown more courage then RONA or R-K, and SLI and NSN are mining corps. awsome movie //Rec
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:17:00 - [175] To Jakal... I think what Reassor meant was that his morale were low beacuse its not easy to fight when the enemy is in ur gang :/ Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2004.08.19 18:08:35 ] Canis Lupus > We're holding, traveling towards the station. BATTLESHIPS: IMMEDIATELY TURN AND POINT AT SAFESPOTS, MAX VELOCITY upon warp in. Engage enemy second. That my friend is from our gang chat...now how did Shrike get her hands on that one...talk about telling half of the story //Rec
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:17:00 - [176] To Jakal... I think what Reassor meant was that his morale were low beacuse its not easy to fight when the enemy is in ur gang :/ Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2004.08.19 18:08:35 ] Canis Lupus > We're holding, traveling towards the station. BATTLESHIPS: IMMEDIATELY TURN AND POINT AT SAFESPOTS, MAX VELOCITY upon warp in. Engage enemy second. That my friend is from our gang chat...now how did Shrike get her hands on that one...talk about telling half of the story //Rec
Reassor	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:54:00 - [177] nah that morale thingy it was sarcasm :P
Reassor	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:54:00 - [178] nah that morale thingy it was sarcasm :P
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.08.24 04:33:00 - [179] Beautifully filmed, edited and produced. It's a shame Leafo that you've been demeaned by producing propaganda for a failing regime because that just reeks of certain PA leader's nonsensical and downright fictional rhetoric. Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.08.24 04:33:00 - [180] Beautifully filmed, edited and produced. It's a shame Leafo that you've been demeaned by producing propaganda for a failing regime because that just reeks of certain PA leader's nonsensical and downright fictional rhetoric. Eve Blacklight Style
Seleene	Posted - 2004.08.24 05:52:00 - [181] Leafo's video rules. The PA's logo pretty much rules too. Is there something else going on in this thread? Seriously, if you guys stop fighting, then Leafo will have to go back to making vids about mining and agent running. Then again... he'd probably be able to make that look just as good. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Seleene	Posted - 2004.08.24 05:52:00 - [182] Leafo's video rules. The PA's logo pretty much rules too. Is there something else going on in this thread? Seriously, if you guys stop fighting, then Leafo will have to go back to making vids about mining and agent running. Then again... he'd probably be able to make that look just as good. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Ca0 Ca0	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:05:00 - [183] Edited by: Ca0 Ca0 on 24/08/2004 07:07:15 The original press release (which got lost in all the flaming and trolling in the thread), which links to a post made by SweatySack on the PA forums dictating the terms of PA's surrender, made me think of: THIS THREAD . . . LOL. Cao EDIT: as a matter of making the record complete, just remember later when we say "I told you so!"
Ca0 Ca0	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:05:00 - [184] Edited by: Ca0 Ca0 on 24/08/2004 07:07:15 The original press release (which got lost in all the flaming and trolling in the thread), which links to a post made by SweatySack on the PA forums dictating the terms of PA's surrender, made me think of: THIS THREAD . . . LOL. Cao EDIT: as a matter of making the record complete, just remember later when we say "I told you so!"
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:06:00 - [185] Originally by: Mortuus Awesome vid as always. True Quote: Great press release. False, PA has left Tenal and Branch because sitting at your safespots won't save you anymore. We just come and get you there if need be. Quote: As for m0ovolution, their actual numbers are never whats in local, you engage them and 10+ more log in. Rubbish, I have never seen this, aside from the occasional scout we keep logged off in strategic positions and log on when needed. There are always some people playing another account because of not having the patience for waiting until we find your safespot again so they can engage. Anyway, how do you explain local has 100+, our gang has 30 and we have to come find YOU to have a fight ? You expect us to log in 70 extra people ? Quote: FU/CoD sometimes send some targets into the hpa area, but they in no way control Venal. Get used to it NCA, there is no way to defeat us if we don't leave. Measuring kill lists doesn't make us go away, just like it hasn't made FU and CoD vanish. Lord knows those guys take a worse beating than us every day. Wouldn't know about Cod or FU, but you ARE leaving Branch/Tenal/Venal aren't you ? Quote: Alexandra, I should be back in a couple of days to play with your boys in Empire. Has been a lot of fun and the most pleasent fights of the war. No forum trolling smacktards down there. Playing with Alexandra is a joy. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:06:00 - [186] Originally by: Mortuus Awesome vid as always. True Quote: Great press release. False, PA has left Tenal and Branch because sitting at your safespots won't save you anymore. We just come and get you there if need be. Quote: As for m0ovolution, their actual numbers are never whats in local, you engage them and 10+ more log in. Rubbish, I have never seen this, aside from the occasional scout we keep logged off in strategic positions and log on when needed. There are always some people playing another account because of not having the patience for waiting until we find your safespot again so they can engage. Anyway, how do you explain local has 100+, our gang has 30 and we have to come find YOU to have a fight ? You expect us to log in 70 extra people ? Quote: FU/CoD sometimes send some targets into the hpa area, but they in no way control Venal. Get used to it NCA, there is no way to defeat us if we don't leave. Measuring kill lists doesn't make us go away, just like it hasn't made FU and CoD vanish. Lord knows those guys take a worse beating than us every day. Wouldn't know about Cod or FU, but you ARE leaving Branch/Tenal/Venal aren't you ? Quote: Alexandra, I should be back in a couple of days to play with your boys in Empire. Has been a lot of fun and the most pleasent fights of the war. No forum trolling smacktards down there. Playing with Alexandra is a joy. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:20:00 - [187] Edited by: Fuffel on 24/08/2004 07:24:11 very nice Vid ! why is everybody so upset? are they closing the eve servers? or do you want to stop that pvp stuff? have fun and paint yourself a big "I WON!!" picture, hang it next to your monitor and if you feel the need... - g
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:20:00 - [188] Edited by: Fuffel on 24/08/2004 07:24:11 very nice Vid ! why is everybody so upset? are they closing the eve servers? or do you want to stop that pvp stuff? have fun and paint yourself a big "I WON!!" picture, hang it next to your monitor and if you feel the need... - g
Cochise	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:30:00 - [189] This is no where close to over. Long Live the PA !!
Cochise	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:30:00 - [190] This is no where close to over. Long Live the PA !!
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:34:00 - [191] Quote: However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Halseth, Thanks for publically accepting you have given us branch, tenal and venal. Much appreciated and we will get the map updated asap. Good luck in empire. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:34:00 - [192] Quote: However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Halseth, Thanks for publically accepting you have given us branch, tenal and venal. Much appreciated and we will get the map updated asap. Good luck in empire. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Rae Nomi	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:49:00 - [193] Nice post Halseth. Nice Vid as well. Im not PA nor am I Pro-PA or anything close, but I have sat in these forums for hours and read the posts from Jade and DB Preacher and the children from Evol and Moo. Im amazed at the total lack of peoples understanding that this whole war against the PA is 100% based on lies and misguided information. My Take: If you think Jade is smart your a fool. If you think DB Preacher and her Evol friends are right then you are an idiot. So take a deep breath and break the denial and go back to the start and grasp the reality that you are what you believe. And if youve sucked in to all the propaganda from these children your no better than they are. Scum !! If your just playing along because this is just a game OK but if your really buying all this crap then I pitty you and your life. What a sad person you must be. Right will prevail it allways does. PS. Trolls I wont come back and read here so dont bother wasting anymore space replying to this post cause I wont read it.
Rae Nomi	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:49:00 - [194] Nice post Halseth. Nice Vid as well. Im not PA nor am I Pro-PA or anything close, but I have sat in these forums for hours and read the posts from Jade and DB Preacher and the children from Evol and Moo. Im amazed at the total lack of peoples understanding that this whole war against the PA is 100% based on lies and misguided information. My Take: If you think Jade is smart your a fool. If you think DB Preacher and her Evol friends are right then you are an idiot. So take a deep breath and break the denial and go back to the start and grasp the reality that you are what you believe. And if youve sucked in to all the propaganda from these children your no better than they are. Scum !! If your just playing along because this is just a game OK but if your really buying all this crap then I pitty you and your life. What a sad person you must be. Right will prevail it allways does. PS. Trolls I wont come back and read here so dont bother wasting anymore space replying to this post cause I wont read it.
Ca0 Ca0	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:51:00 - [195] Originally by: Rae Nomi Nice post Halseth. Nice Vid as well. Im not PA nor am I Pro-PA or anything close, but I have sat in these forums for hours and read the posts from Jade and DB Preacher and the children from Evol and Moo. Im amazed at the total lack of peoples understanding that this whole war against the PA is 100% based on lies and misguided information. My Take: If you think Jade is smart your a fool. If you think DB Preacher and her Evol friends are right then you are an idiot. So take a deep breath and break the denial and go back to the start and grasp the reality that you are what you believe. And if youve sucked in to all the propaganda from these children your no better than they are. Scum !! If your just playing along because this is just a game OK but if your really buying all this crap then I pitty you and your life. What a sad person you must be. Right will prevail it allways does. PS. Trolls I wont come back and read here so dont bother wasting anymore space replying to this post cause I wont read it. I would make a real life comparison between the in-game conduct and ideology of Jade, DB Preacher, and the NCA in general and the Thought Control Police over at the Democrat Party, but it would be against the forum rules. So it will have to suffice to say I couldn't have said what you said better myself. Cao
Ca0 Ca0	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:51:00 - [196] Originally by: Rae Nomi Nice post Halseth. Nice Vid as well. Im not PA nor am I Pro-PA or anything close, but I have sat in these forums for hours and read the posts from Jade and DB Preacher and the children from Evol and Moo. Im amazed at the total lack of peoples understanding that this whole war against the PA is 100% based on lies and misguided information. My Take: If you think Jade is smart your a fool. If you think DB Preacher and her Evol friends are right then you are an idiot. So take a deep breath and break the denial and go back to the start and grasp the reality that you are what you believe. And if youve sucked in to all the propaganda from these children your no better than they are. Scum !! If your just playing along because this is just a game OK but if your really buying all this crap then I pitty you and your life. What a sad person you must be. Right will prevail it allways does. PS. Trolls I wont come back and read here so dont bother wasting anymore space replying to this post cause I wont read it. I would make a real life comparison between the in-game conduct and ideology of Jade, DB Preacher, and the NCA in general and the Thought Control Police over at the Democrat Party, but it would be against the forum rules. So it will have to suffice to say I couldn't have said what you said better myself. Cao
Estarriol	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:54:00 - [197] Originally by: Rae Nomi ...I have sat in these forums for hours and read the posts from Jade and DB Preacher and the children from Evol and Moo. Who then goes on to say... Quote: f your just playing along because this is just a game OK but if your really buying all this crap then I pitty you and your life. What a sad person you must be. What more can really be said?
Estarriol	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:54:00 - [198] Originally by: Rae Nomi ...I have sat in these forums for hours and read the posts from Jade and DB Preacher and the children from Evol and Moo. Who then goes on to say... Quote: f your just playing along because this is just a game OK but if your really buying all this crap then I pitty you and your life. What a sad person you must be. What more can really be said?
GsDaddy	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:58:00 - [199] Edited by: GsDaddy on 24/08/2004 08:03:02 Originally by: Ca0 Ca0 So it will have to suffice to say I couldn't have said what you said better myself. What's the deal with the sudden lamefest in these forums? Are y'all still fightin up there or just sittin' in safespots whacking yer puds? LET'S SEE SOME ACTION K??!?!?! GsDaddy tosses Ca0 a thimble to prevent chafing kthx.
GsDaddy	Posted - 2004.08.24 07:58:00 - [200] Edited by: GsDaddy on 24/08/2004 08:03:02 Originally by: Ca0 Ca0 So it will have to suffice to say I couldn't have said what you said better myself. What's the deal with the sudden lamefest in these forums? Are y'all still fightin up there or just sittin' in safespots whacking yer puds? LET'S SEE SOME ACTION K??!?!?! GsDaddy tosses Ca0 a thimble to prevent chafing kthx.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.24 08:01:00 - [201] Originally by: DB Preacher Quote: However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Halseth, Thanks for publically accepting you have given us branch, tenal and venal. Much appreciated and we will get the map updated asap. Good luck in empire. dbp Um there is no public announcment about us giving you tenal or branch we are just responding to another threat in this war and that is in the south. If you guys want to play that is were we are. Oh and for Shrike why is it every time your guys come after us you bring 2 times our numbers. Like Saturday night in czdj there were 4 of us when BOB turns up and starts smack talking in local. He claimed only 5 of you were coming but the map says 15 so i tel the other guys we are not going to get a fight and to log off, then about 5 mins later 25 up in to tackle our 5. Shrike i hope you dont mind but we kicked your spy from our corp, I hope you enjoyed reading our very voring corp chat for 2 weeks
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.24 08:01:00 - [202] Originally by: DB Preacher Quote: However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Halseth, Thanks for publically accepting you have given us branch, tenal and venal. Much appreciated and we will get the map updated asap. Good luck in empire. dbp Um there is no public announcment about us giving you tenal or branch we are just responding to another threat in this war and that is in the south. If you guys want to play that is were we are. Oh and for Shrike why is it every time your guys come after us you bring 2 times our numbers. Like Saturday night in czdj there were 4 of us when BOB turns up and starts smack talking in local. He claimed only 5 of you were coming but the map says 15 so i tel the other guys we are not going to get a fight and to log off, then about 5 mins later 25 up in to tackle our 5. Shrike i hope you dont mind but we kicked your spy from our corp, I hope you enjoyed reading our very voring corp chat for 2 weeks
DISC0	Posted - 2004.08.24 08:32:00 - [203] Great post Hasleth, our enemies in the most part have been honourable, or at least dieing quietly :) I for one am enjoying this war, and hope that it continues for many moons. It does sadden me however, that the destorted claims of some of our enemies would appear to be fact for the forum readers. Thankfully these are in the minority, but let me assure those people this is very much not the case. Anyways, this was a brief visit to the forum, and now, back to the game :)
DISC0	Posted - 2004.08.24 08:32:00 - [204] Great post Hasleth, our enemies in the most part have been honourable, or at least dieing quietly :) I for one am enjoying this war, and hope that it continues for many moons. It does sadden me however, that the destorted claims of some of our enemies would appear to be fact for the forum readers. Thankfully these are in the minority, but let me assure those people this is very much not the case. Anyways, this was a brief visit to the forum, and now, back to the game :)
Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2004.08.24 08:49:00 - [205] Thread re-opened after a quick clean up. Please do not hijack other peoples threads, running them off topic. And those on the same faction, please ensure your members don't run your own threads off topic either. Have fun! - Zhuge ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)
Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2004.08.24 08:49:00 - [206] Thread re-opened after a quick clean up. Please do not hijack other peoples threads, running them off topic. And those on the same faction, please ensure your members don't run your own threads off topic either. Have fun! - Zhuge ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.08.24 20:05:00 - [207] 23 corporations in the PA? Surprised........ Nice that we got a mention though \o/ nice press release banner though - sweet design. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.08.24 20:05:00 - [208] 23 corporations in the PA? Surprised........ Nice that we got a mention though \o/ nice press release banner though - sweet design. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Halseth	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:04:00 - [209] Edited by: Halseth on 24/08/2004 22:07:55 Wow. That is all I can say. And the utter dissapointment in the extremely poor quality of character of the flamers here in this thread. I wrote a friendly and entertaining press release that ACTUALLY PRAISES our adversaries, tacked on EVEs finest player made video to date, and it is met with so many childish flames from the other side of the battlefield that it is locked. Congratulations. My love for this incredible game is what drives me to do things like this press release. Its a shame that others have to act out their joyless lives here in cyberspace by slamming anothers...........F-it. You guys dont care. Im wasting my time. But here is something that has kind of eaten at me since it was posted. Quote: Golden quotes collection #1; [ 2004.08.19 18:08:35 ] Canis Lupus > We're holding, traveling towards the station. BATTLESHIPS: IMMEDIATELY TURN AND POINT AT SAFESPOTS, MAX VELOCITY upon warp in. Engage enemy second. [ 2004.08.19 18:42:21 ] Canis Lupus > I count 20 battleships on our side presently. [ 2004.08.19 18:42:25 ] Ignix > 5 hostiles in local [ 2004.08.19 22:25:06 ] Venusillusia > why do I not see anyone on the map in K-8 [ 2004.08.19 22:25:23 ] Acks > because they all logged off when evol came into system -Shrike quotes from PA gang chats. SirMolle, Thanks for confirming what we have suspected throughout the entire war. You have a spy in our gang. He is telling you exactly what we are doing at all times. For 3 months now, whenever we warp to your location in superior force, we arrive to see the last of your fleet warping away. Whenever a fleet moves from one system to the next, your fleet gets out of the way just in time, Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back, You fleet safespots moments before we get there. When we are assembling for an attack, your fleet warps into our staging area to scatter us. You are a puss. You claim to be all skillz, but you could never achieve jack-squat without advanced knowledge of our every move. 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code.
Halseth	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:04:00 - [210] Edited by: Halseth on 24/08/2004 22:07:55 Wow. That is all I can say. And the utter dissapointment in the extremely poor quality of character of the flamers here in this thread. I wrote a friendly and entertaining press release that ACTUALLY PRAISES our adversaries, tacked on EVEs finest player made video to date, and it is met with so many childish flames from the other side of the battlefield that it is locked. Congratulations. My love for this incredible game is what drives me to do things like this press release. Its a shame that others have to act out their joyless lives here in cyberspace by slamming anothers...........F-it. You guys dont care. Im wasting my time. But here is something that has kind of eaten at me since it was posted. Quote: Golden quotes collection #1; [ 2004.08.19 18:08:35 ] Canis Lupus > We're holding, traveling towards the station. BATTLESHIPS: IMMEDIATELY TURN AND POINT AT SAFESPOTS, MAX VELOCITY upon warp in. Engage enemy second. [ 2004.08.19 18:42:21 ] Canis Lupus > I count 20 battleships on our side presently. [ 2004.08.19 18:42:25 ] Ignix > 5 hostiles in local [ 2004.08.19 22:25:06 ] Venusillusia > why do I not see anyone on the map in K-8 [ 2004.08.19 22:25:23 ] Acks > because they all logged off when evol came into system -Shrike quotes from PA gang chats. SirMolle, Thanks for confirming what we have suspected throughout the entire war. You have a spy in our gang. He is telling you exactly what we are doing at all times. For 3 months now, whenever we warp to your location in superior force, we arrive to see the last of your fleet warping away. Whenever a fleet moves from one system to the next, your fleet gets out of the way just in time, Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back, You fleet safespots moments before we get there. When we are assembling for an attack, your fleet warps into our staging area to scatter us. You are a puss. You claim to be all skillz, but you could never achieve jack-squat without advanced knowledge of our every move. 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code.
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:10:00 - [211] Edited by: Blacklight on 24/08/2004 22:13:17 Originally by: Halseth 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code. ...and the couple of RONA-Kia spies that have been in BNC and on our teamspeak is what exactly? For goodness sake Halseth spouting all that vitriolic rant when your own elite pvp corp has been doing the same just makes you look daft. Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:10:00 - [212] Edited by: Blacklight on 24/08/2004 22:13:17 Originally by: Halseth 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code. ...and the couple of RONA-Kia spies that have been in BNC and on our teamspeak is what exactly? For goodness sake Halseth spouting all that vitriolic rant when your own elite pvp corp has been doing the same just makes you look daft. Eve Blacklight Style
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:15:00 - [213] Edited by: Notferr on 24/08/2004 22:48:25 Originally by: Halseth ...Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back... Says it all... The PA has made blantant posts about hacking Deklein and Jericho Forums. The PA 'elite' brag about miner strikes, refuse to fight rookie fleets approaching anywhere near even numbers, and have generally shown little honor on the battlefield. Prostrate hurt feelings somewhere else. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:15:00 - [214] Edited by: Notferr on 24/08/2004 22:48:25 Originally by: Halseth ...Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back... Says it all... The PA has made blantant posts about hacking Deklein and Jericho Forums. The PA 'elite' brag about miner strikes, refuse to fight rookie fleets approaching anywhere near even numbers, and have generally shown little honor on the battlefield. Prostrate hurt feelings somewhere else. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:41:00 - [215] This is rich. Two days into the Northern War and Halseth, KIAEddZ, Bobby Wilson and Robeyone were boasting about having recruited an "ethical defector" within Jericho Fraction as an intel source. At the time you showed absolutely no qualms about using spies and espionage to gain advantage Halseth, you penetrated our private forums using a stolen user password and published our internal memos without a second thought. But now it seems you have an "ethical defector" in your combat gangs you start crying in public and throwing your toys out of the pram? Weak. You chaps decided to fight dirty. Now you reap the whirlwind. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:41:00 - [216] This is rich. Two days into the Northern War and Halseth, KIAEddZ, Bobby Wilson and Robeyone were boasting about having recruited an "ethical defector" within Jericho Fraction as an intel source. At the time you showed absolutely no qualms about using spies and espionage to gain advantage Halseth, you penetrated our private forums using a stolen user password and published our internal memos without a second thought. But now it seems you have an "ethical defector" in your combat gangs you start crying in public and throwing your toys out of the pram? Weak. You chaps decided to fight dirty. Now you reap the whirlwind. JF Public Forum
Gitt	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:44:00 - [217] Good post Halseth
Gitt	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:44:00 - [218] Good post Halseth
Sun Ra	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:55:00 - [219] Edited by: Sun Ra on 24/08/2004 22:59:07 Originally by: Halseth SirMolle, Thanks for confirming what we have suspected throughout the entire war. You have a spy in our gang. He is telling you exactly what we are doing at all times. For 3 months now, whenever we warp to your location in superior force, we arrive to see the last of your fleet warping away. Whenever a fleet moves from one system to the next, your fleet gets out of the way just in time, Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back, You fleet safespots moments before we get there. When we are assembling for an attack, your fleet warps into our staging area to scatter us. You are a puss. You claim to be all skillz, but you could never achieve jack-squat without advanced knowledge of our every move. 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code. 1) u dont even need spies to do half that stuff lol 2) So what if we do have spies? Every RL country uses them esp in war time, im sure PA have their spies, its nothing like using a 'cheat code' lol??? Besides eve has something i feel is much much much worse built in, its called blobs on the map
Sun Ra	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:55:00 - [220] Edited by: Sun Ra on 24/08/2004 22:59:07 Originally by: Halseth SirMolle, Thanks for confirming what we have suspected throughout the entire war. You have a spy in our gang. He is telling you exactly what we are doing at all times. For 3 months now, whenever we warp to your location in superior force, we arrive to see the last of your fleet warping away. Whenever a fleet moves from one system to the next, your fleet gets out of the way just in time, Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back, You fleet safespots moments before we get there. When we are assembling for an attack, your fleet warps into our staging area to scatter us. You are a puss. You claim to be all skillz, but you could never achieve jack-squat without advanced knowledge of our every move. 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code. 1) u dont even need spies to do half that stuff lol 2) So what if we do have spies? Every RL country uses them esp in war time, im sure PA have their spies, its nothing like using a 'cheat code' lol??? Besides eve has something i feel is much much much worse built in, its called blobs on the map
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:56:00 - [221] Quote: SirMolle, Thanks for confirming what we have suspected throughout the entire war. You have a spy in our gang. He is telling you exactly what we are doing at all times. For 3 months now, whenever we warp to your location in superior force, we arrive to see the last of your fleet warping away. Whenever a fleet moves from one system to the next, your fleet gets out of the way just in time, Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back, You fleet safespots moments before we get there. Should actually read.. SirMolle, Thanks for confirming what we have suspected throughout the entire war. You have a spy in our gang. He is telling you exactly what we are doing at all times. For 3 months now, whenever we warp to your location in superior force, we arrive only to be blown the crud up. Whenever a fleet moves from one system to the next, your fleet gets into a tactical position, which then promptly omgtwfbbq pwnz us. Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back, we make sure we have at least 5 times your numbers, we then watch your fleet sit around the station while we decide on what the hell we're gonna do at a 200AU safespot, before promptly loggin off because we cant make a tactical decision to save our lives.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:56:00 - [222] Quote: SirMolle, Thanks for confirming what we have suspected throughout the entire war. You have a spy in our gang. He is telling you exactly what we are doing at all times. For 3 months now, whenever we warp to your location in superior force, we arrive to see the last of your fleet warping away. Whenever a fleet moves from one system to the next, your fleet gets out of the way just in time, Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back, You fleet safespots moments before we get there. Should actually read.. SirMolle, Thanks for confirming what we have suspected throughout the entire war. You have a spy in our gang. He is telling you exactly what we are doing at all times. For 3 months now, whenever we warp to your location in superior force, we arrive only to be blown the crud up. Whenever a fleet moves from one system to the next, your fleet gets into a tactical position, which then promptly omgtwfbbq pwnz us. Whenever we decide to log in and take the station back, we make sure we have at least 5 times your numbers, we then watch your fleet sit around the station while we decide on what the hell we're gonna do at a 200AU safespot, before promptly loggin off because we cant make a tactical decision to save our lives.
dethanor	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:57:00 - [223] ok guys i very rarely post on these forums so i will make it brief. i know you will all say my opinion is biased because i`m PA but i`m getting a bit tired of all this. we post you flame. you post we flame {although the ones ive read are never as bad, i know biased} then a little tet er tate argument will start about who runs away from who, who cheats who sits in safe spots all day etc etc etc. its getting to the point where i no longer want to read theses forums because its so boring. but i love this game and all the history and depth of it so i choose to read on regardless. so here is an idea for you all. just play the game that you pay for. leave the forums {especially threads like this one} for opinions {about the game not personal} statements {political and military} and more grown up comments. when you step back and read all this stuff it is quite childish. both parties are guilty, some more than others. long live the PA long live our enemies {i would be boring without you} lets keep it civil just my 2 isk "my views are my own they are not official PA policy nor should they be treaded as such. take them as they are or leave them alone." There is no art more beautiful nor diverse than the art of death!!! Oberon Tech II Sales.
dethanor	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:57:00 - [224] ok guys i very rarely post on these forums so i will make it brief. i know you will all say my opinion is biased because i`m PA but i`m getting a bit tired of all this. we post you flame. you post we flame {although the ones ive read are never as bad, i know biased} then a little tet er tate argument will start about who runs away from who, who cheats who sits in safe spots all day etc etc etc. its getting to the point where i no longer want to read theses forums because its so boring. but i love this game and all the history and depth of it so i choose to read on regardless. so here is an idea for you all. just play the game that you pay for. leave the forums {especially threads like this one} for opinions {about the game not personal} statements {political and military} and more grown up comments. when you step back and read all this stuff it is quite childish. both parties are guilty, some more than others. long live the PA long live our enemies {i would be boring without you} lets keep it civil just my 2 isk "my views are my own they are not official PA policy nor should they be treaded as such. take them as they are or leave them alone." There is no art more beautiful nor diverse than the art of death!!! Oberon Tech II Sales.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:59:00 - [225] Honest appraisal is regularly confused with flaming. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.08.24 22:59:00 - [226] Honest appraisal is regularly confused with flaming. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:05:00 - [227] Edited by: SirMolle on 24/08/2004 23:08:35 Originally by: Halseth Wow. That is all I can say. (deleted the rest of the quote since it didnt really say anything.) Yes, we use spies. Yes, we use intel. Yes, we use the map. Yes, we read your forums. Yes, we mine "your" roids. Yes, we will continue to use all of the above to kill you. Your problem is? And by editing this post, i break one of my own rules of never editing a post, but i forgot to say this; Halseth Hasbeen, we dont want nor need your respect.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:05:00 - [228] Edited by: SirMolle on 24/08/2004 23:08:35 Originally by: Halseth Wow. That is all I can say. (deleted the rest of the quote since it didnt really say anything.) Yes, we use spies. Yes, we use intel. Yes, we use the map. Yes, we read your forums. Yes, we mine "your" roids. Yes, we will continue to use all of the above to kill you. Your problem is? And by editing this post, i break one of my own rules of never editing a post, but i forgot to say this; Halseth Hasbeen, we dont want nor need your respect.
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:26:00 - [229] Sorry old chap, didnt realise we were fighting by queensbury rules. will manage to be a fair bit nicer in the future old man.
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:26:00 - [230] Sorry old chap, didnt realise we were fighting by queensbury rules. will manage to be a fair bit nicer in the future old man.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:32:00 - [231] Wow, if he's that mad over spies, wait till he finds out about all the paid informants... Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:32:00 - [232] Wow, if he's that mad over spies, wait till he finds out about all the paid informants... Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Acks	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:39:00 - [233] Yes the fun has just begun. this game is well hard to put it to words incredible to say the least so rich and fun. Fantastic vid. see you all ingame.
Acks	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:39:00 - [234] Yes the fun has just begun. this game is well hard to put it to words incredible to say the least so rich and fun. Fantastic vid. see you all ingame.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:39:00 - [235] *Halseth stomps with his feet and cries "Not fair mommy they wouldn't play nice! " -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:39:00 - [236] *Halseth stomps with his feet and cries "Not fair mommy they wouldn't play nice! " -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
whejl	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:51:00 - [237] Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved.
whejl	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:51:00 - [238] Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved.
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:58:00 - [239] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. as long he doesnt hack other accounts its fine, using alts and then getting access is no way illegal, or even use intruders Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:58:00 - [240] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. as long he doesnt hack other accounts its fine, using alts and then getting access is no way illegal, or even use intruders Wanna fly with me?
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:59:00 - [241] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. LOLROTFLMAO So that's your secret weapon??? A LAWSUIT?!?!?!?? - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.24 23:59:00 - [242] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. LOLROTFLMAO So that's your secret weapon??? A LAWSUIT?!?!?!?? - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:00:00 - [243] Dear Halseth, I guess you must really be getting old and in fact your memory is failing you completely? That must be the only reason for what you posted. Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? Or perhaps I could remind you of the time that the JF forums were infiltrated and posts from that forum were utilised in order to kick JF from the NVA? Or maybe, just maybe, I could mention the times we jumped into our enemies chat channels to disrupt them? If you are going to try and proclaim yourself holier than holy, try and not do it with old military allies listening in. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:00:00 - [244] Dear Halseth, I guess you must really be getting old and in fact your memory is failing you completely? That must be the only reason for what you posted. Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? Or perhaps I could remind you of the time that the JF forums were infiltrated and posts from that forum were utilised in order to kick JF from the NVA? Or maybe, just maybe, I could mention the times we jumped into our enemies chat channels to disrupt them? If you are going to try and proclaim yourself holier than holy, try and not do it with old military allies listening in. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:10:00 - [245] Edited by: Faramir on 25/08/2004 00:14:06 Quote: For nearly 3 months now the PAs main fleet focus has been on the never ending exchange of station control in the Branch region. It has been a epic conflict of numerous fleet battles, awesome firepower and the destruction of billions in assets on both sides. Pushing EVE to its limits on a daily basis is enjoyable and for this chance we are greatful. However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Quote: 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. I think this as close to a "surrender" of the Northern Regions of Tenal and Branch as we'll ever have someone from the PA admit. So I'll take it and hope the PA will end their "claim" to these above named regions untill they decide to reclaim them and bring war to them. Although you may not like it or agree with it. The PA does no longer control nor inhabit these areas. I would only find it "honorable and just" if the Phoenix Alliance would remove these 2 regions from their claimed space. I refer to the following lines on the www.newvenal.org website: [i]"The PA consists of the regions: Venal, Branch, and Tenal. These regions are closed to all non VE personnel and corps"[/i} And the map shown here: Former PA claimed space This is not meant as a flame or any post of that sort, but a mere request to the PA to follow up on current events. Looking forward to a response (either here or ingame) Faramir EDIT: added links to claims for reference
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:10:00 - [246] Edited by: Faramir on 25/08/2004 00:14:06 Quote: For nearly 3 months now the PAs main fleet focus has been on the never ending exchange of station control in the Branch region. It has been a epic conflict of numerous fleet battles, awesome firepower and the destruction of billions in assets on both sides. Pushing EVE to its limits on a daily basis is enjoyable and for this chance we are greatful. However, external conditions are now pulling our focus away from the north, and demanding that we respond to the situation south of our home in Venal. Quote: 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. I think this as close to a "surrender" of the Northern Regions of Tenal and Branch as we'll ever have someone from the PA admit. So I'll take it and hope the PA will end their "claim" to these above named regions untill they decide to reclaim them and bring war to them. Although you may not like it or agree with it. The PA does no longer control nor inhabit these areas. I would only find it "honorable and just" if the Phoenix Alliance would remove these 2 regions from their claimed space. I refer to the following lines on the www.newvenal.org website: [i]"The PA consists of the regions: Venal, Branch, and Tenal. These regions are closed to all non VE personnel and corps"[/i} And the map shown here: Former PA claimed space This is not meant as a flame or any post of that sort, but a mere request to the PA to follow up on current events. Looking forward to a response (either here or ingame) Faramir EDIT: added links to claims for reference
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:26:00 - [247] halseth your ignorance about the tools in the eve client is downright embarrassing. just cause you dont know how to do something doesn't mean it can't be done or is an expliot. -Adapt and Overcome.
Jakal	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:26:00 - [248] halseth your ignorance about the tools in the eve client is downright embarrassing. just cause you dont know how to do something doesn't mean it can't be done or is an expliot. -Adapt and Overcome.
Destable	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:45:00 - [249] It really was one of the most well made movies I've ever watched.
Destable	Posted - 2004.08.25 00:45:00 - [250] It really was one of the most well made movies I've ever watched.
Selim	Posted - 2004.08.25 01:48:00 - [251] Edited by: Selim on 25/08/2004 01:54:42 The greatest asset a military force can have is superior tactics. The second greatest is intelligence of the enemy. We have both; the Phoenix Alliance has neither. Despite our superior intel, our tactics are still second to none on the battlefield and yours are feeble at best. You do realize, Halseth, that under you, the PA is just crumbling. The fact that we have insiders, defectors, and spies in your ranks underlines this. The fact that you either deny or 'forget' everything is just one reason why you are not a worthy leader of an alliance. Spies have been used in EVE for a long time. You yourself know that the PA has used them, the NVA used them. Everybody tries to use them. Surrendering is your only hope now to make the PA worth something again other than a few corps terrorizing miners and allying with pirates. Actually, no, forget it. Any alliance that lies, breaks promises, goes against its word, betrays friends, and allies with pirates deserves to fall.
Selim	Posted - 2004.08.25 01:48:00 - [252] Edited by: Selim on 25/08/2004 01:54:42 The greatest asset a military force can have is superior tactics. The second greatest is intelligence of the enemy. We have both; the Phoenix Alliance has neither. Despite our superior intel, our tactics are still second to none on the battlefield and yours are feeble at best. You do realize, Halseth, that under you, the PA is just crumbling. The fact that we have insiders, defectors, and spies in your ranks underlines this. The fact that you either deny or 'forget' everything is just one reason why you are not a worthy leader of an alliance. Spies have been used in EVE for a long time. You yourself know that the PA has used them, the NVA used them. Everybody tries to use them. Surrendering is your only hope now to make the PA worth something again other than a few corps terrorizing miners and allying with pirates. Actually, no, forget it. Any alliance that lies, breaks promises, goes against its word, betrays friends, and allies with pirates deserves to fall.
Tjong	Posted - 2004.08.25 05:42:00 - [253] Originally by: Selim Actually, no, forget it. Any alliance that lies, breaks promises, goes against its word, betrays friends, and allies with pirates deserves to fall.
Tjong	Posted - 2004.08.25 05:42:00 - [254] Originally by: Selim Actually, no, forget it. Any alliance that lies, breaks promises, goes against its word, betrays friends, and allies with pirates deserves to fall.
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:22:00 - [255] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Stained You sir, are a liar. sigh . Of course I am, I r the enemy. Yes you are. In this thread you claim to have 40k zydrine in the corp hangars in BKG-Q2 while screenshot proves it's near to nothing and your personal hangar only has a mere ~12.8k. RONA-KIA Corp hangar in BKG KIAEddz's hangar in BKG Not a liar huh?
Faramir	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:22:00 - [256] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Stained You sir, are a liar. sigh . Of course I am, I r the enemy. Yes you are. In this thread you claim to have 40k zydrine in the corp hangars in BKG-Q2 while screenshot proves it's near to nothing and your personal hangar only has a mere ~12.8k. RONA-KIA Corp hangar in BKG KIAEddz's hangar in BKG Not a liar huh?
Meddy	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:34:00 - [257] Great post Halseth Long Live The PA We Keep Our Space, you other people can't have it Long Live The PA
Meddy	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:34:00 - [258] Great post Halseth Long Live The PA We Keep Our Space, you other people can't have it Long Live The PA
Eversor	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:45:00 - [259] Edited by: Eversor on 25/08/2004 06:47:29 Leafo.....Great job as usual. You truly are the Spielberg of Eve. Long live the PA!!!
Eversor	Posted - 2004.08.25 06:45:00 - [260] Edited by: Eversor on 25/08/2004 06:47:29 Leafo.....Great job as usual. You truly are the Spielberg of Eve. Long live the PA!!!
Djmase	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:24:00 - [261] This is by far the worst posts. Please stay on topic. This was a real post until evol and moo hijacked it. Please moderate yourselves. Please make sure that you have a better reason for posting then flaming. I wish the ISD would delete everything up till the press release to make this a real post. I am requesting this to the ISD to delete all post until the press release and lock this thread. This needs not be a postable thread. Make it a sticky for about a week then let it go. Is it that hard to just let things be DJ
Djmase	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:24:00 - [262] This is by far the worst posts. Please stay on topic. This was a real post until evol and moo hijacked it. Please moderate yourselves. Please make sure that you have a better reason for posting then flaming. I wish the ISD would delete everything up till the press release to make this a real post. I am requesting this to the ISD to delete all post until the press release and lock this thread. This needs not be a postable thread. Make it a sticky for about a week then let it go. Is it that hard to just let things be DJ
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:25:00 - [263] Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 07:30:10 I usually don't post in these kind of threads but I thought I would make an exception. First: Good post Halseth! Next: Day out and day in I read these threads where you just throw it at each other! This goes for both sides! Why do you do this? Honestly? Do you think it's fun to make your enemies hate you? Do you in some strange way enjoy being despised and hated? This is a war, yes. The reason for war is always some kind of difference (or in some rare occasions misunderstandings, that is not the issue here though) but this does not mean that you have to be rude and act like a complete immature moron. I'm not saying we should give each other a hug and make up, but fight the fight with honour! This is starting too look like some high-school brawl. I always try to have respect for my enemies and that usually turns out to be mutual. I have had respect for almost all 'my' enemies since the beginning of this war until recent. Due to the last weeks escalating events that havenÆt been in the actual game on the battlefield have made me loose that respect for most of my enemies, I even despise many of them because of their acts OFF the battlefield. I think this is sad. We are at war, yes. But still we can act like civilised people! Personally I get more satisfaction by being respected by my enemy than hated. Think about it; you can actually kill someone and get respect and maybe even get praised for the way you performed that kill. I think that is more fun and adds to this fantastic game then to get hate-mail and to read meaningless posts on the forums. I will not say anymore. If you can't understand what I mean with this post you will never do it. If that is the case I feel sorry for you that you miss out some of the great aspects of the game. And as I said in the beginning, this goes for all of you regardless of which side in this war you are. This will probably be flamed now by the ones I have been speaking of in my post, so be it. See you on the battlefield! //Leafo Oh, glad to hear you liked the video from a artistic point of view. Whatever... click on sig for all my videos
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:25:00 - [264] Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 07:30:10 I usually don't post in these kind of threads but I thought I would make an exception. First: Good post Halseth! Next: Day out and day in I read these threads where you just throw it at each other! This goes for both sides! Why do you do this? Honestly? Do you think it's fun to make your enemies hate you? Do you in some strange way enjoy being despised and hated? This is a war, yes. The reason for war is always some kind of difference (or in some rare occasions misunderstandings, that is not the issue here though) but this does not mean that you have to be rude and act like a complete immature moron. I'm not saying we should give each other a hug and make up, but fight the fight with honour! This is starting too look like some high-school brawl. I always try to have respect for my enemies and that usually turns out to be mutual. I have had respect for almost all 'my' enemies since the beginning of this war until recent. Due to the last weeks escalating events that havenÆt been in the actual game on the battlefield have made me loose that respect for most of my enemies, I even despise many of them because of their acts OFF the battlefield. I think this is sad. We are at war, yes. But still we can act like civilised people! Personally I get more satisfaction by being respected by my enemy than hated. Think about it; you can actually kill someone and get respect and maybe even get praised for the way you performed that kill. I think that is more fun and adds to this fantastic game then to get hate-mail and to read meaningless posts on the forums. I will not say anymore. If you can't understand what I mean with this post you will never do it. If that is the case I feel sorry for you that you miss out some of the great aspects of the game. And as I said in the beginning, this goes for all of you regardless of which side in this war you are. This will probably be flamed now by the ones I have been speaking of in my post, so be it. See you on the battlefield! //Leafo Oh, glad to hear you liked the video from a artistic point of view. Whatever... click on sig for all my videos
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:41:00 - [265] Ya know leafo, I agree with you. In RKK's previous wars we had nothing but respect for most of our enemies. Corps like F-E, Merc Frigs, Space Invaders, Jokers etc etc. All spoke to us with respect and fighting agaisnt was a pleasure. However, since the start of this war, I have been attacked OOC and IC, in-game and on the forums by your alliance in an attempt to disuade our war. I have never Smaktalked anyone before this war because I have never had the need to. Unfortunately, your alliance has attacked me verbally so much that I really don't care what you or your alliance members think. None of you have any respect not only for me, but for yourselves and your own alliance members. NSN used to be a strong corp who I looked up too. Now you have been reduced to working with idiots. I feel if RKK had a merc contract solely on your corporation then it would have gone along the lines of our previous wars where it would have been a bit of fun. But the facts of the matter are simple. From the second we declared war on the PA we have been receieved with nothing but verbal attacks. Your alliance made it's bed, die in it. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:41:00 - [266] Ya know leafo, I agree with you. In RKK's previous wars we had nothing but respect for most of our enemies. Corps like F-E, Merc Frigs, Space Invaders, Jokers etc etc. All spoke to us with respect and fighting agaisnt was a pleasure. However, since the start of this war, I have been attacked OOC and IC, in-game and on the forums by your alliance in an attempt to disuade our war. I have never Smaktalked anyone before this war because I have never had the need to. Unfortunately, your alliance has attacked me verbally so much that I really don't care what you or your alliance members think. None of you have any respect not only for me, but for yourselves and your own alliance members. NSN used to be a strong corp who I looked up too. Now you have been reduced to working with idiots. I feel if RKK had a merc contract solely on your corporation then it would have gone along the lines of our previous wars where it would have been a bit of fun. But the facts of the matter are simple. From the second we declared war on the PA we have been receieved with nothing but verbal attacks. Your alliance made it's bed, die in it. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Gan Ning	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:57:00 - [267] I actually really liked the conga video, almost made me kick off my shoes and C-O-N-G-A!!!!! \o/ \o~ ~o ~ <o~
Gan Ning	Posted - 2004.08.25 07:57:00 - [268] I actually really liked the conga video, almost made me kick off my shoes and C-O-N-G-A!!!!! \o/ \o~ ~o ~ <o~
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:04:00 - [269] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. LMFAO, get a clue bud.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:04:00 - [270] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. LMFAO, get a clue bud.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:06:00 - [271] Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 24/08/2004 22:13:17 Originally by: Halseth 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code. ...and the couple of RONA-Kia spies that have been in BNC and on our teamspeak is what exactly? For goodness sake Halseth spouting all that vitriolic rant when your own elite pvp corp has been doing the same just makes you look daft. Ummm we dont hve spys in your corp and never had
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:06:00 - [272] Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 24/08/2004 22:13:17 Originally by: Halseth 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code. ...and the couple of RONA-Kia spies that have been in BNC and on our teamspeak is what exactly? For goodness sake Halseth spouting all that vitriolic rant when your own elite pvp corp has been doing the same just makes you look daft. Ummm we dont hve spys in your corp and never had
DaddyS	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:13:00 - [273] Originally by: DB Preacher I have never Smaktalked anyone before this war because I have never had the need to. dbp hahaha...rofl... DB Preacher the comedian. DaddyS CDI
DaddyS	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:13:00 - [274] Originally by: DB Preacher I have never Smaktalked anyone before this war because I have never had the need to. dbp hahaha...rofl... DB Preacher the comedian. DaddyS CDI
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:28:00 - [275] Originally by: Leafo Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 07:30:10 I usually don't post in these kind of threads but I thought I would make an exception. First: Good post Halseth! Next: Day out and day in I read these threads where you just throw it at each other! This goes for both sides! Why do you do this? Honestly? Do you think it's fun to make your enemies hate you? Do you in some strange way enjoy being despised and hated? This is a war, yes. The reason for war is always some kind of difference (or in some rare occasions misunderstandings, that is not the issue here though) but this does not mean that you have to be rude and act like a complete immature moron. I'm not saying we should give each other a hug and make up, but fight the fight with honour! This is starting too look like some high-school brawl. I always try to have respect for my enemies and that usually turns out to be mutual. I have had respect for almost all 'my' enemies since the beginning of this war until recent. Due to the last weeks escalating events that havenÆt been in the actual game on the battlefield have made me loose that respect for most of my enemies, I even despise many of them because of their acts OFF the battlefield. I think this is sad. We are at war, yes. But still we can act like civilised people! Personally I get more satisfaction by being respected by my enemy than hated. Think about it; you can actually kill someone and get respect and maybe even get praised for the way you performed that kill. I think that is more fun and adds to this fantastic game then to get hate-mail and to read meaningless posts on the forums. I will not say anymore. If you can't understand what I mean with this post you will never do it. If that is the case I feel sorry for you that you miss out some of the great aspects of the game. And as I said in the beginning, this goes for all of you regardless of which side in this war you are. This will probably be flamed now by the ones I have been speaking of in my post, so be it. See you on the battlefield! //Leafo Oh, glad to hear you liked the video from a artistic point of view. Whatever... First thing Leafo, you are right. Second thing, there is a difference of taste between you and the people having the flames here (which includes me to a certain extent). Some of us like to heat up things by having propaganda-like discussions here. If you don't like that, too bad. Another sign that you are taking this all to seriously are the passages I made italic above. I don't loose respect for my enemies because of them posting propaganda . It's all in the game, just like spies btw. Hell, Evolution once entered a spy into my corporation, and I honestly don't respect the guy doing it less for that. I still joined Evolution didn't I ? But back to you losing respect for alot of us, and some of your PA friends. The biggest reason people get worked up here is because they read things that they believe are not true. I get trapped sometimes too by that, and it's no problem. But when people come here and post utter nonsense that they know to be nonsense is when I start feeling sorry for them. There are a few PA people I've learned to disrespect in the last month of Evolution membership. All of those earned my dislike by either voicing real life threats, going too far in smacktalk or posting blatant lies. The rest of you still has my respect until further notice. Btw, You do knwo that Halseth's post is utter nonsense don't you ? I knwo, it's nicely written and has a good logo and stuff, but all it's saying is: we are leaving BKG and giving up Branch and Tenal now. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:28:00 - [276] Originally by: Leafo Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 07:30:10 I usually don't post in these kind of threads but I thought I would make an exception. First: Good post Halseth! Next: Day out and day in I read these threads where you just throw it at each other! This goes for both sides! Why do you do this? Honestly? Do you think it's fun to make your enemies hate you? Do you in some strange way enjoy being despised and hated? This is a war, yes. The reason for war is always some kind of difference (or in some rare occasions misunderstandings, that is not the issue here though) but this does not mean that you have to be rude and act like a complete immature moron. I'm not saying we should give each other a hug and make up, but fight the fight with honour! This is starting too look like some high-school brawl. I always try to have respect for my enemies and that usually turns out to be mutual. I have had respect for almost all 'my' enemies since the beginning of this war until recent. Due to the last weeks escalating events that havenÆt been in the actual game on the battlefield have made me loose that respect for most of my enemies, I even despise many of them because of their acts OFF the battlefield. I think this is sad. We are at war, yes. But still we can act like civilised people! Personally I get more satisfaction by being respected by my enemy than hated. Think about it; you can actually kill someone and get respect and maybe even get praised for the way you performed that kill. I think that is more fun and adds to this fantastic game then to get hate-mail and to read meaningless posts on the forums. I will not say anymore. If you can't understand what I mean with this post you will never do it. If that is the case I feel sorry for you that you miss out some of the great aspects of the game. And as I said in the beginning, this goes for all of you regardless of which side in this war you are. This will probably be flamed now by the ones I have been speaking of in my post, so be it. See you on the battlefield! //Leafo Oh, glad to hear you liked the video from a artistic point of view. Whatever... First thing Leafo, you are right. Second thing, there is a difference of taste between you and the people having the flames here (which includes me to a certain extent). Some of us like to heat up things by having propaganda-like discussions here. If you don't like that, too bad. Another sign that you are taking this all to seriously are the passages I made italic above. I don't loose respect for my enemies because of them posting propaganda . It's all in the game, just like spies btw. Hell, Evolution once entered a spy into my corporation, and I honestly don't respect the guy doing it less for that. I still joined Evolution didn't I ? But back to you losing respect for alot of us, and some of your PA friends. The biggest reason people get worked up here is because they read things that they believe are not true. I get trapped sometimes too by that, and it's no problem. But when people come here and post utter nonsense that they know to be nonsense is when I start feeling sorry for them. There are a few PA people I've learned to disrespect in the last month of Evolution membership. All of those earned my dislike by either voicing real life threats, going too far in smacktalk or posting blatant lies. The rest of you still has my respect until further notice. Btw, You do knwo that Halseth's post is utter nonsense don't you ? I knwo, it's nicely written and has a good logo and stuff, but all it's saying is: we are leaving BKG and giving up Branch and Tenal now. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Grimster	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:29:00 - [277] Edited by: Grimster on 25/08/2004 08:32:35 Originally by: DaddyS hahaha...rofl... DB Preacher the comedian. DaddyS CDI Or.... ROFL DaddyS for your corp dragging the PA alliance to the position it's in now Edit... sorry shouldn't feed the TROLL but I couldn't help this one.
Grimster	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:29:00 - [278] Edited by: Grimster on 25/08/2004 08:32:35 Originally by: DaddyS hahaha...rofl... DB Preacher the comedian. DaddyS CDI Or.... ROFL DaddyS for your corp dragging the PA alliance to the position it's in now Edit... sorry shouldn't feed the TROLL but I couldn't help this one.
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:41:00 - [279] Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. "Fight the fight with honour" wtf?? That would be fine if you guys would actually fight with honour. Instead you sit in safe spots and frustrate your enemy till all they can do is hurl abuse at you in the hope you may hate us so much that you may actually try "FIGHT". By fight I mean FIGHT, not warp in 80 or 90 ships on 20. Then when we have 50 your 90 sit in safe spots again? The situation was so bad here that we have finely honed our skills at finding safe spots, since thats the only way we get to fire our guns! Sorry Leafo, you seem a nice guy, but you and the PA lost the right to use phrases like "Fight the fight with honour" a long time ago.
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:41:00 - [280] Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. "Fight the fight with honour" wtf?? That would be fine if you guys would actually fight with honour. Instead you sit in safe spots and frustrate your enemy till all they can do is hurl abuse at you in the hope you may hate us so much that you may actually try "FIGHT". By fight I mean FIGHT, not warp in 80 or 90 ships on 20. Then when we have 50 your 90 sit in safe spots again? The situation was so bad here that we have finely honed our skills at finding safe spots, since thats the only way we get to fire our guns! Sorry Leafo, you seem a nice guy, but you and the PA lost the right to use phrases like "Fight the fight with honour" a long time ago.
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:48:00 - [281] Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 08:53:55 Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 08:53:18 Originally by: Rod Blaine First thing Leafo, you are right. Second thing, there is a difference of taste between you and the people having the flames here (which includes me to a certain extent). Some of us like to heat up things by having propaganda-like discussions here. If you don't like that, too bad. Another sign that you are taking this all to seriously are the passages I made italic above. I don't loose respect for my enemies because of them posting propaganda . It's all in the game, just like spies btw. Hell, Evolution once entered a spy into my corporation, and I honestly don't respect the guy doing it less for that. I still joined Evolution didn't I ? But back to you losing respect for alot of us, and some of your PA friends. The biggest reason people get worked up here is because they read things that they believe are not true. I get trapped sometimes too by that, and it's no problem. But when people come here and post utter nonsense that they know to be nonsense is when I start feeling sorry for them. There are a few PA people I've learned to disrespect in the last month of Evolution membership. All of those earned my dislike by either voicing real life threats, going too far in smacktalk or posting blatant lies. The rest of you still has my respect until further notice. Btw, You do knwo that Halseth's post is utter nonsense don't you ? I knwo, it's nicely written and has a good logo and stuff, but all it's saying is: we are leaving BKG and giving up Branch and Tenal now. Thank you for a decent post! I just want to clearify my post. It is not about the propaganda nor the spies and other military tactics. That is, as you say, part of the game. I have no problems there. What I'm addressing is the meaningless flaming and trashtalking that goes on. One can 'stirr and heat things up' with propaganda and so on without getting uncivilized and rude. One can manipulate the enemy without lowering oneself below the bar of 'normal' behaviour. Information and misinformation is the strongest weapon in modern warfare, and it's very effective, but one can still be civil while using this weapon. Originally by: Val Duane Sorry Leafo, you seem a nice guy, but you and the PA lost the right to use phrases like "Fight the fight with honour" a long time ago. I was not directing this towards a certain event but to the general approach that many have in this war. My post is directed to everyone and I have tried to keep it objective without having the politics of this war cloud my intention of this post. I'm gonna shut up now... //Leafo click on sig for all my videos
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:48:00 - [282] Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 08:53:55 Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 08:53:18 Originally by: Rod Blaine First thing Leafo, you are right. Second thing, there is a difference of taste between you and the people having the flames here (which includes me to a certain extent). Some of us like to heat up things by having propaganda-like discussions here. If you don't like that, too bad. Another sign that you are taking this all to seriously are the passages I made italic above. I don't loose respect for my enemies because of them posting propaganda . It's all in the game, just like spies btw. Hell, Evolution once entered a spy into my corporation, and I honestly don't respect the guy doing it less for that. I still joined Evolution didn't I ? But back to you losing respect for alot of us, and some of your PA friends. The biggest reason people get worked up here is because they read things that they believe are not true. I get trapped sometimes too by that, and it's no problem. But when people come here and post utter nonsense that they know to be nonsense is when I start feeling sorry for them. There are a few PA people I've learned to disrespect in the last month of Evolution membership. All of those earned my dislike by either voicing real life threats, going too far in smacktalk or posting blatant lies. The rest of you still has my respect until further notice. Btw, You do knwo that Halseth's post is utter nonsense don't you ? I knwo, it's nicely written and has a good logo and stuff, but all it's saying is: we are leaving BKG and giving up Branch and Tenal now. Thank you for a decent post! I just want to clearify my post. It is not about the propaganda nor the spies and other military tactics. That is, as you say, part of the game. I have no problems there. What I'm addressing is the meaningless flaming and trashtalking that goes on. One can 'stirr and heat things up' with propaganda and so on without getting uncivilized and rude. One can manipulate the enemy without lowering oneself below the bar of 'normal' behaviour. Information and misinformation is the strongest weapon in modern warfare, and it's very effective, but one can still be civil while using this weapon. Originally by: Val Duane Sorry Leafo, you seem a nice guy, but you and the PA lost the right to use phrases like "Fight the fight with honour" a long time ago. I was not directing this towards a certain event but to the general approach that many have in this war. My post is directed to everyone and I have tried to keep it objective without having the politics of this war cloud my intention of this post. I'm gonna shut up now... //Leafo click on sig for all my videos
Zensunni DX	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:54:00 - [283] Long live the PA! It's funny to see everyone trying to convince themselves that the PA is dead, that we're on our knees, etc etc. And it's really sad to see a supposedly "mature" base of players scrapping the bottom of the trash talking barrel. What's funny is how people type and type and type and type...... trying to make themselves believe that they're l33t and has "wtfpwned" the PA etc etc. Man, now I believe those psycho articles, or so I previously thought, about people projecting their insecurities and issues into an online game. Some people here obviously have issues to deal with IRL and need to get a grip on themselves, remember they're paying $12.95 a month to have fun and not try to be the man(or woman!) they always wanted to be but never was. Like Halseth said, IT'S JUST A FRIGGING GAME, MAN. Anyway whatever you cranks say or try to mangle and extrapolate from what has been said by the PA to serve your own ends, the bottomline is, the PA is strong and alive; we're all still having fun, active and happy; and most important of all, the majority of us still realise that this is a GAME and we're in it for the fun, for the online "camaraderie"; unlike so many here who seem so intent on proving their online superiority to the point that they're starting to believe their own propaganda. Joseph Goebbels once said "Repeat a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth". Well maybe it applies to what goes on in your head but it sure doesn't affects the fun and camaraderie the PA shares and enjoy! Lone live the PA and the 20th! ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are
Zensunni DX	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:54:00 - [284] Long live the PA! It's funny to see everyone trying to convince themselves that the PA is dead, that we're on our knees, etc etc. And it's really sad to see a supposedly "mature" base of players scrapping the bottom of the trash talking barrel. What's funny is how people type and type and type and type...... trying to make themselves believe that they're l33t and has "wtfpwned" the PA etc etc. Man, now I believe those psycho articles, or so I previously thought, about people projecting their insecurities and issues into an online game. Some people here obviously have issues to deal with IRL and need to get a grip on themselves, remember they're paying $12.95 a month to have fun and not try to be the man(or woman!) they always wanted to be but never was. Like Halseth said, IT'S JUST A FRIGGING GAME, MAN. Anyway whatever you cranks say or try to mangle and extrapolate from what has been said by the PA to serve your own ends, the bottomline is, the PA is strong and alive; we're all still having fun, active and happy; and most important of all, the majority of us still realise that this is a GAME and we're in it for the fun, for the online "camaraderie"; unlike so many here who seem so intent on proving their online superiority to the point that they're starting to believe their own propaganda. Joseph Goebbels once said "Repeat a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth". Well maybe it applies to what goes on in your head but it sure doesn't affects the fun and camaraderie the PA shares and enjoy! Lone live the PA and the 20th! ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:28:00 - [285] Leafo, though I believe almost everybody would likely sympathise with the things you say (wanting to be respected by your enemies etc) and why yes, this war has certainly turned very nasty and bitter and such, I don't believe its reasonable for you to absolve your alliance from the principle crimes and misdemeaners which led directly to this pass. Straight off the bat the PA was playing psyops and mind-games, claiming to have spies and defactors, running smear propaganda, personal attacks, gloating bravado and general disrespectful public relations material to belittle and diminish its neighbours. The way Bobby Wilson came straight out with demands for surrender in the first 2-3 days coupled with Halseth and EddZ and Artegg and co continually coughing up bile and eternal KOS threats has defined the mood of this conflict. (And please don't anybody bother to contradict this statement without following the northern war link in my signature and having a look through the early threads listed in that discussion. The conduct of the PA public campaign is fact, not opinion) In terms of public image the Pheonix Allaince has appeared nothing more than an overweight bully attempting to bluster its way to some sort of result while at each turn getting rolled over by a younger leaner opponent and having to go crawling on its knees for external help. Curse Alliance, Pirate Syndicate ... who else is the PA going to turn to now one wonders? If you are being honest Leafo you have to admit that there comes a time when there are no more compromises to be struck, no more favours to be called, no more mud to be thrown, no more wriggling and no more poisonous spite to be hurled at the enemy. When that time comes you should go your fate with resignation and accept the verdict of battle and circumstance with whatever shreds of dignity you have retained in the fighting. At the moment the PA is a bag of bones strung together with sinews of hate and spitting bile with every ridiculous Press Release Halseth dreams up. "We'll never surrender!" He cries! "You'll never win!" ((and we will never admit it even though you have)) he thinks. This prospect of an "eternal war" is the thing that seeds the hate and malignant propaganda Leafo, you must see that? You are a talented man, your film-making is exquisite, but your art is twisted to the basest and most ridiculous propaganda needs of a fallen and corrupt alliance. You are now representing a reality so far from the truth that its almost painful to look upon, not because the image is hurtful to the viewer, but in truth I think everyone feels a bit bad for you, to see your skills and enthusiam wasted in such folly and deluded misapplication of the film-maker's art. The only "eternal war" in the north is the enduring hate in the hearts of those Pheonix Alliance leaders and councillers that carry eternal hate for their rivals and old enemies. You must have seen this? This is a war for vanity now for Halseth and Bobby Wilson and EddZ and Artegg and Gafton. Thats all it is, they simply won't cry uncle and save their companions regardless of the cost. Your North Star Networks wasn't even in the NVA when the root of these hatreds was laid, but you are as surely bound to the inevitable conclusion of those false decisions made as any founder, because you have become emmeshed (albeit unwittingly) in the intrigues of your fellows. Your leaders aren't asking you for propaganda film-making to save the PA Leafo, they are asking for it to make them feel better in the bunker as they nurse their hate to a bitter grave. Courage for you now is not to follow ghosts to a broken future by the lonely step-march of trudging bone-weary victims to the massascre, but to find a little individually and find a way to live. Make your own fate. Let it stand with your films and you will have the respect you crave and rightly so. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:28:00 - [286] Leafo, though I believe almost everybody would likely sympathise with the things you say (wanting to be respected by your enemies etc) and why yes, this war has certainly turned very nasty and bitter and such, I don't believe its reasonable for you to absolve your alliance from the principle crimes and misdemeaners which led directly to this pass. Straight off the bat the PA was playing psyops and mind-games, claiming to have spies and defactors, running smear propaganda, personal attacks, gloating bravado and general disrespectful public relations material to belittle and diminish its neighbours. The way Bobby Wilson came straight out with demands for surrender in the first 2-3 days coupled with Halseth and EddZ and Artegg and co continually coughing up bile and eternal KOS threats has defined the mood of this conflict. (And please don't anybody bother to contradict this statement without following the northern war link in my signature and having a look through the early threads listed in that discussion. The conduct of the PA public campaign is fact, not opinion) In terms of public image the Pheonix Allaince has appeared nothing more than an overweight bully attempting to bluster its way to some sort of result while at each turn getting rolled over by a younger leaner opponent and having to go crawling on its knees for external help. Curse Alliance, Pirate Syndicate ... who else is the PA going to turn to now one wonders? If you are being honest Leafo you have to admit that there comes a time when there are no more compromises to be struck, no more favours to be called, no more mud to be thrown, no more wriggling and no more poisonous spite to be hurled at the enemy. When that time comes you should go your fate with resignation and accept the verdict of battle and circumstance with whatever shreds of dignity you have retained in the fighting. At the moment the PA is a bag of bones strung together with sinews of hate and spitting bile with every ridiculous Press Release Halseth dreams up. "We'll never surrender!" He cries! "You'll never win!" ((and we will never admit it even though you have)) he thinks. This prospect of an "eternal war" is the thing that seeds the hate and malignant propaganda Leafo, you must see that? You are a talented man, your film-making is exquisite, but your art is twisted to the basest and most ridiculous propaganda needs of a fallen and corrupt alliance. You are now representing a reality so far from the truth that its almost painful to look upon, not because the image is hurtful to the viewer, but in truth I think everyone feels a bit bad for you, to see your skills and enthusiam wasted in such folly and deluded misapplication of the film-maker's art. The only "eternal war" in the north is the enduring hate in the hearts of those Pheonix Alliance leaders and councillers that carry eternal hate for their rivals and old enemies. You must have seen this? This is a war for vanity now for Halseth and Bobby Wilson and EddZ and Artegg and Gafton. Thats all it is, they simply won't cry uncle and save their companions regardless of the cost. Your North Star Networks wasn't even in the NVA when the root of these hatreds was laid, but you are as surely bound to the inevitable conclusion of those false decisions made as any founder, because you have become emmeshed (albeit unwittingly) in the intrigues of your fellows. Your leaders aren't asking you for propaganda film-making to save the PA Leafo, they are asking for it to make them feel better in the bunker as they nurse their hate to a bitter grave. Courage for you now is not to follow ghosts to a broken future by the lonely step-march of trudging bone-weary victims to the massascre, but to find a little individually and find a way to live. Make your own fate. Let it stand with your films and you will have the respect you crave and rightly so. JF Public Forum
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:41:00 - [287] Originally by: Val Duane Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. Ever heard of NPC's dropping them Considering we are not based or ever have been based in BKG i would not be to worried about what is in our hangers
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:41:00 - [288] Originally by: Val Duane Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. Ever heard of NPC's dropping them Considering we are not based or ever have been based in BKG i would not be to worried about what is in our hangers
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:48:00 - [289] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Val Duane Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. Ever heard of NPC's dropping them Considering we are not based or ever have been based in BKG i would not be to worried about what is in our hangers Do the Gurristas drop them right inside your hanger then ? JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:48:00 - [290] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Val Duane Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. Ever heard of NPC's dropping them Considering we are not based or ever have been based in BKG i would not be to worried about what is in our hangers Do the Gurristas drop them right inside your hanger then ? JF Public Forum
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:54:00 - [291] //teacher enters room// teacher: Welcome class, to todays lesson in mass-communications. We will today handle the subject of how to portray in image of what one would call "talking from a position above the whole mess". Or to cut it short: "The use of plausibility and portraying the suggestion of impartiality in propaganda". You all know what I mean right ? And also that these type of posts are the best propaganda because only these can actually convince the general public to take a stand based on morality rather then distrust or fear. Ok so let's have an example then. Look to the screens in front of you and try analyse the text so we can discuss it after. Class: Yes ma'am. Originally by: Zensunni DX Long live the PA! It's funny to see everyone trying to convince themselves that the PA is dead, that we're on our knees, etc etc. And it's really sad to see a supposedly "mature" base of players scrapping the bottom of the trash talking barrel. What's funny is how people type and type and type and type...... trying to make themselves believe that they're l33t and has "wtfpwned" the PA etc etc. Man, now I believe those psycho articles, or so I previously thought, about people projecting their insecurities and issues into an online game. Some people here obviously have issues to deal with IRL and need to get a grip on themselves, remember they're paying $12.95 a month to have fun and not try to be the man(or woman!) they always wanted to be but never was. Like Halseth said, IT'S JUST A FRIGGING GAME, MAN. Anyway whatever you cranks say or try to mangle and extrapolate from what has been said by the PA to serve your own ends, the bottomline is, the PA is strong and alive; we're all still having fun, active and happy; and most important of all, the majority of us still realise that this is a GAME and we're in it for the fun, for the online "camaraderie"; unlike so many here who seem so intent on proving their online superiority to the point that they're starting to believe their own propaganda. Joseph Goebbels once said "Repeat a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth". Well maybe it applies to what goes on in your head but it sure doesn't affects the fun and camaraderie the PA shares and enjoy! Lone live the PA and the 20th! \\teacher looks back up from screen and checks wether class is finished reading and analysing\\ Teacher: Sooo, let's all go and see what the effective passages in this text are and what their intended effect is when used as propaganda. By the way, before we proceed, is there anyone of you that has any doubts as to wether this post is intended propaganda in nature or not ? Class: [silence with a tad of giggling here and there] Teacher: Ok, so let's proceed. Look at your screens again and notice the passages marked as 'key' use of plausibility and appeals to reason. Try to analyse for yourselves what role each passage plays in the total so we can discuss that later if there is any doubt. Originally by: Zensunni DX Long live the PA! It's funny to see everyone trying to convince themselves that the PA is dead, that we're on our knees, etc etc. And it's really sad to see a supposedly "mature" base of players scrapping the bottom of the trash talking barrel. What's funny is how people type and type and type and type...... trying to make themselves believe that they're l33t and has "wtfpwned" the PA etc etc. Man, now I believe those psycho articles, or so I previously thought, about people projecting their insecurities and issues into an online game. Some people here obviously have issues to deal with IRL and need to get a grip on themselves, remember they're paying $12.95 a month to have fun and not try to be the man(or woman!) they always wanted to be but never was. Like Halseth said, IT'S JUST A FRIGGING GAME, MAN. Anyway whatever you cranks say or try to mangle and extrapolate from what has been said by the PA to serve your own ends, the bottomline is, the PA is strong and alive; we're all still having fun, active and happy; and most important of all, the majority of us still realise that this is a GAME and we're in it for the fun, for the online "camaraderie"; unlike so many here who seem so intent on proving their online superiority to the point that they're starting to believe their own propaganda. Joseph Goebbels once said "Repeat a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth". Well maybe it applies to what goes on in your head but it sure doesn't affects the fun and camaraderie the PA shares and enjoy! Lone live the PA and the 20th! //Teacher looks up and sees class at work with their digital markers// [a few minutes pass] <cont next post> _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:54:00 - [292] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 10:21:04 Teacher: So, everyone clear on the exact role of every marked passage in this text ? How the text is a typical appeal to reason, but at the same is part of the greater propaganda drive ? [silence] Teacher: Ok, so let's discuss. Halsy, why don't you explain to us why the italic parts are all marked alike and what purpose they serve within the greater text ? Halsy: The italic parts are cleary intended to lend credibiity to the poster. You can see that fomr the way in which he refers to "maturity" , "issues" and "getting a grip on oneself". They also serve to use this credibility and moral high to degrade the persons to which he refers in these passages. An example is "try to be the man(or woman!) they always wanted to be but never was.". The italic parts portray the poster as having the moral superiority and being gifted with reason and common sense, while the person aimed for are prtrayed as being incomplete, psycholigically unsound, morally lacking and devoid of common sense. Teacher: Very good Halsy, you'll grow up to be a good propagandist some day I'm sure. Now to the underlined parts. Who will tell me what their purpose and role is, seeing as how they combine with the italic parts in this greater text ? Jadalia: May I please ? pretty please ? Teacher: No Jade, you are ahead of the class in this. I want someone a little more challenged on this topic to answer this. Robby Bibson ! Get that fingwer out of your nose and answer my question please ! Robby Bibson: Well Ms, the underlined parts seem to be just pieces of the histroy put in to fill up the text I think. Teacher: No Bibby, they are not and you know it. Now get that lazy mind into gear and explain to us please. Robby Bibson: Well, the underlined passages are rehasing earlier propaganda facts that have been discounted or rendered useless by enemy counter-propaganda. They seem designed to have these few 'facts' be reinforced by the credibility the italic parts are designed to gather for the poster. Teacher: Right Bibby ! You'll get there some day my son. Now Class. Effectively, these few lines are the core of this whole text. The whole italic part, as well as the parts we have left unmarked, are designed with these few statements in mind. All is aimed at lending credibility to these propaganda items, and secondarily to the original authors of those items. Feel free to notice how Halseth Durn gets plastered with the morality and wisdom this text tries to gather through the appeal to relativation and common sense. Albeit somehwat simple, this makes this text a perfect example of the use of the 'common sense'-factor in propaganda. Class dismissed ! _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:54:00 - [293] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 10:21:04 Teacher: So, everyone clear on the exact role of every marked passage in this text ? How the text is a typical appeal to reason, but at the same is part of the greater propaganda drive ? [silence] Teacher: Ok, so let's discuss. Halsy, why don't you explain to us why the italic parts are all marked alike and what purpose they serve within the greater text ? Halsy: The italic parts are cleary intended to lend credibiity to the poster. You can see that fomr the way in which he refers to "maturity" , "issues" and "getting a grip on oneself". They also serve to use this credibility and moral high to degrade the persons to which he refers in these passages. An example is "try to be the man(or woman!) they always wanted to be but never was.". The italic parts portray the poster as having the moral superiority and being gifted with reason and common sense, while the person aimed for are prtrayed as being incomplete, psycholigically unsound, morally lacking and devoid of common sense. Teacher: Very good Halsy, you'll grow up to be a good propagandist some day I'm sure. Now to the underlined parts. Who will tell me what their purpose and role is, seeing as how they combine with the italic parts in this greater text ? Jadalia: May I please ? pretty please ? Teacher: No Jade, you are ahead of the class in this. I want someone a little more challenged on this topic to answer this. Robby Bibson ! Get that fingwer out of your nose and answer my question please ! Robby Bibson: Well Ms, the underlined parts seem to be just pieces of the histroy put in to fill up the text I think. Teacher: No Bibby, they are not and you know it. Now get that lazy mind into gear and explain to us please. Robby Bibson: Well, the underlined passages are rehasing earlier propaganda facts that have been discounted or rendered useless by enemy counter-propaganda. They seem designed to have these few 'facts' be reinforced by the credibility the italic parts are designed to gather for the poster. Teacher: Right Bibby ! You'll get there some day my son. Now Class. Effectively, these few lines are the core of this whole text. The whole italic part, as well as the parts we have left unmarked, are designed with these few statements in mind. All is aimed at lending credibility to these propaganda items, and secondarily to the original authors of those items. Feel free to notice how Halseth Durn gets plastered with the morality and wisdom this text tries to gather through the appeal to relativation and common sense. Albeit somehwat simple, this makes this text a perfect example of the use of the 'common sense'-factor in propaganda. Class dismissed ! _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 09:54:00 - [294] //teacher enters room// teacher: Welcome class, to todays lesson in mass-communications. We will today handle the subject of how to portray in image of what one would call "talking from a position above the whole mess". Or to cut it short: "The use of plausibility and portraying the suggestion of impartiality in propaganda". You all know what I mean right ? And also that these type of posts are the best propaganda because only these can actually convince the general public to take a stand based on morality rather then distrust or fear. Ok so let's have an example then. Look to the screens in front of you and try analyse the text so we can discuss it after. Class: Yes ma'am. Originally by: Zensunni DX Long live the PA! It's funny to see everyone trying to convince themselves that the PA is dead, that we're on our knees, etc etc. And it's really sad to see a supposedly "mature" base of players scrapping the bottom of the trash talking barrel. What's funny is how people type and type and type and type...... trying to make themselves believe that they're l33t and has "wtfpwned" the PA etc etc. Man, now I believe those psycho articles, or so I previously thought, about people projecting their insecurities and issues into an online game. Some people here obviously have issues to deal with IRL and need to get a grip on themselves, remember they're paying $12.95 a month to have fun and not try to be the man(or woman!) they always wanted to be but never was. Like Halseth said, IT'S JUST A FRIGGING GAME, MAN. Anyway whatever you cranks say or try to mangle and extrapolate from what has been said by the PA to serve your own ends, the bottomline is, the PA is strong and alive; we're all still having fun, active and happy; and most important of all, the majority of us still realise that this is a GAME and we're in it for the fun, for the online "camaraderie"; unlike so many here who seem so intent on proving their online superiority to the point that they're starting to believe their own propaganda. Joseph Goebbels once said "Repeat a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth". Well maybe it applies to what goes on in your head but it sure doesn't affects the fun and camaraderie the PA shares and enjoy! Lone live the PA and the 20th! \\teacher looks back up from screen and checks wether class is finished reading and analysing\\ Teacher: Sooo, let's all go and see what the effective passages in this text are and what their intended effect is when used as propaganda. By the way, before we proceed, is there anyone of you that has any doubts as to wether this post is intended propaganda in nature or not ? Class: [silence with a tad of giggling here and there] Teacher: Ok, so let's proceed. Look at your screens again and notice the passages marked as 'key' use of plausibility and appeals to reason. Try to analyse for yourselves what role each passage plays in the total so we can discuss that later if there is any doubt. Originally by: Zensunni DX Long live the PA! It's funny to see everyone trying to convince themselves that the PA is dead, that we're on our knees, etc etc. And it's really sad to see a supposedly "mature" base of players scrapping the bottom of the trash talking barrel. What's funny is how people type and type and type and type...... trying to make themselves believe that they're l33t and has "wtfpwned" the PA etc etc. Man, now I believe those psycho articles, or so I previously thought, about people projecting their insecurities and issues into an online game. Some people here obviously have issues to deal with IRL and need to get a grip on themselves, remember they're paying $12.95 a month to have fun and not try to be the man(or woman!) they always wanted to be but never was. Like Halseth said, IT'S JUST A FRIGGING GAME, MAN. Anyway whatever you cranks say or try to mangle and extrapolate from what has been said by the PA to serve your own ends, the bottomline is, the PA is strong and alive; we're all still having fun, active and happy; and most important of all, the majority of us still realise that this is a GAME and we're in it for the fun, for the online "camaraderie"; unlike so many here who seem so intent on proving their online superiority to the point that they're starting to believe their own propaganda. Joseph Goebbels once said "Repeat a lie a thousand times and it becomes the truth". Well maybe it applies to what goes on in your head but it sure doesn't affects the fun and camaraderie the PA shares and enjoy! Lone live the PA and the 20th! //Teacher looks up and sees class at work with their digital markers// [a few minutes pass] <cont next post> _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:02:00 - [295] Originally by: Jade Constantine In terms of public image the Pheonix Allaince has appeared nothing more than an overweight bully attempting to bluster its way to some sort of result while at each turn getting rolled over by a younger leaner opponent and having to go crawling on its knees for external help. Curse Alliance, Pirate Syndicate ... who else is the PA going to turn to now one wonders? Apparently not to m0o and evol, since they are already taken and NAP/Allied with NCA what was clearly admitted by DigitalCommunist in one of the earlier threads. From your position , talking about any cooperation with 'shadowy' elements is just hilarious and hypocritical as far as it can get. Same goes for your knowledge about the battlefield and state of PA fleet. Tell me m'dear what do you know about the battle? I've never seen you anywhere near PA regions, and all i see of you are killmails from EC area or some PB/Fade junction systems. Oh yes, of course these are travel setups. Have you ever considered equipping battle mods, since travel tricks fail you every time? I do not wish to brag about kills and so other. What amuses me , is the 'vast knowledge' that you provide here. A 'knowledge' that is only a rumor heard on internal comms. If PA is dying, then what is happening with deklein/fade? One can easily notice that deklein is a ghost town. Empty as tenal region (which was 'claimed' by SOL). Not a soul there. How is NCA victorious? And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) Ta ta. -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:02:00 - [296] Originally by: Jade Constantine In terms of public image the Pheonix Allaince has appeared nothing more than an overweight bully attempting to bluster its way to some sort of result while at each turn getting rolled over by a younger leaner opponent and having to go crawling on its knees for external help. Curse Alliance, Pirate Syndicate ... who else is the PA going to turn to now one wonders? Apparently not to m0o and evol, since they are already taken and NAP/Allied with NCA what was clearly admitted by DigitalCommunist in one of the earlier threads. From your position , talking about any cooperation with 'shadowy' elements is just hilarious and hypocritical as far as it can get. Same goes for your knowledge about the battlefield and state of PA fleet. Tell me m'dear what do you know about the battle? I've never seen you anywhere near PA regions, and all i see of you are killmails from EC area or some PB/Fade junction systems. Oh yes, of course these are travel setups. Have you ever considered equipping battle mods, since travel tricks fail you every time? I do not wish to brag about kills and so other. What amuses me , is the 'vast knowledge' that you provide here. A 'knowledge' that is only a rumor heard on internal comms. If PA is dying, then what is happening with deklein/fade? One can easily notice that deklein is a ghost town. Empty as tenal region (which was 'claimed' by SOL). Not a soul there. How is NCA victorious? And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) Ta ta. -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
SlightlyMad	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:10:00 - [297] skips 8 pages of pointles talks and stocks up on antimatter instead * -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo
SlightlyMad	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:10:00 - [298] skips 8 pages of pointles talks and stocks up on antimatter instead * -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:11:00 - [299] Quote: And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) Lets go one better. Lets have a "battle" you and I. No fleets no nonsense. You and me. Bring whatever spaceship you need for the job, no restrictions no nonsense two warp to a moon and one comes back. I am busy elsewhere for this weekend but lets make a date for the coming week. How does that sound? JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:11:00 - [300] Quote: And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) Lets go one better. Lets have a "battle" you and I. No fleets no nonsense. You and me. Bring whatever spaceship you need for the job, no restrictions no nonsense two warp to a moon and one comes back. I am busy elsewhere for this weekend but lets make a date for the coming week. How does that sound? JF Public Forum
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:19:00 - [301] Originally by: SlightlyMad skips 8 pages of pointles talks and stocks up on antimatter instead All that antimatter for? You NPCing in Torrinos or something? Oh and btw...NPCs dont drop clues. You'll have to get a clue elsewhere. kthxbye
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:19:00 - [302] Originally by: SlightlyMad skips 8 pages of pointles talks and stocks up on antimatter instead All that antimatter for? You NPCing in Torrinos or something? Oh and btw...NPCs dont drop clues. You'll have to get a clue elsewhere. kthxbye
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:20:00 - [303] Edited by: Nestor Ne'Arthe on 25/08/2004 10:26:50 Originally by: Jade Constantine Quote: And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) Lets go one better. Lets have a "battle" you and I. No fleets no nonsense. You and me. Bring whatever spaceship you need for the job, no restrictions no nonsense two warp to a moon and one comes back. I am busy elsewhere for this weekend but lets make a date for the coming week. How does that sound? Skipping the unconvinient parts, are we? Unanswered questions are easily forgotten, arent they? Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Ps2. This will be a funny duel though, provided that my char is 3 months old, and yours prolly over 1 year :) Im a nooblar, yes, but loyal to the alliance, on frontlines most of the time. And i dont mean forum frontlines wink -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:20:00 - [304] Edited by: Nestor Ne'Arthe on 25/08/2004 10:26:50 Originally by: Jade Constantine Quote: And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) Lets go one better. Lets have a "battle" you and I. No fleets no nonsense. You and me. Bring whatever spaceship you need for the job, no restrictions no nonsense two warp to a moon and one comes back. I am busy elsewhere for this weekend but lets make a date for the coming week. How does that sound? Skipping the unconvinient parts, are we? Unanswered questions are easily forgotten, arent they? Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Ps2. This will be a funny duel though, provided that my char is 3 months old, and yours prolly over 1 year :) Im a nooblar, yes, but loyal to the alliance, on frontlines most of the time. And i dont mean forum frontlines wink -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Grimster	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:24:00 - [305] Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Jade effectively slapped you in the face with her gloves and named you a cad sir. You humbly beg off - so I guess that means you can't demand anything.
Grimster	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:24:00 - [306] Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Jade effectively slapped you in the face with her gloves and named you a cad sir. You humbly beg off - so I guess that means you can't demand anything.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:25:00 - [307] Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Originally by: Jade Constantine Quote: And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) Lets go one better. Lets have a "battle" you and I. No fleets no nonsense. You and me. Bring whatever spaceship you need for the job, no restrictions no nonsense two warp to a moon and one comes back. I am busy elsewhere for this weekend but lets make a date for the coming week. How does that sound? Skipping the unconvinient parts, are we? Unanswered questions are easily forgotten, arent they? Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Its fairly simple monsieur Ne'Arthe. You questioned my knowledge of the military situation. I wished to demonstrate it to you first hand. But since you are "too busy" then I have to consider the rest of your statements a tad spurious. I'm sure you understand. Ah well, now the PA is "invading" Pureblind I am sure we will get to fight soon. See you in X-7O next week? JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:25:00 - [308] Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Originally by: Jade Constantine Quote: And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) Lets go one better. Lets have a "battle" you and I. No fleets no nonsense. You and me. Bring whatever spaceship you need for the job, no restrictions no nonsense two warp to a moon and one comes back. I am busy elsewhere for this weekend but lets make a date for the coming week. How does that sound? Skipping the unconvinient parts, are we? Unanswered questions are easily forgotten, arent they? Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Its fairly simple monsieur Ne'Arthe. You questioned my knowledge of the military situation. I wished to demonstrate it to you first hand. But since you are "too busy" then I have to consider the rest of your statements a tad spurious. I'm sure you understand. Ah well, now the PA is "invading" Pureblind I am sure we will get to fight soon. See you in X-7O next week? JF Public Forum
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:33:00 - [309] Edited by: Nestor Ne'Arthe on 25/08/2004 10:42:40 You are still skipping the merit of the first post ms. Jade. If you do not dare to comment the most obvious parts, i guess its too unconvinient for you, too bad, lets leave it that way. On the other hand, i need you to share your wisdom with me. How does bullying 4 times younger character correspond to knowledge of the state of enemy fleet? Im lacking some elements of logic here, im fresh out of the academy though. As i said, i do not wish to brag about kills. As they are commited by more expierienced members of the PA. Your emphasis on this part is simply dragging the attention away. But we'll meet in x-70 anyway :) -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:33:00 - [310] Edited by: Nestor Ne'Arthe on 25/08/2004 10:42:40 You are still skipping the merit of the first post ms. Jade. If you do not dare to comment the most obvious parts, i guess its too unconvinient for you, too bad, lets leave it that way. On the other hand, i need you to share your wisdom with me. How does bullying 4 times younger character correspond to knowledge of the state of enemy fleet? Im lacking some elements of logic here, im fresh out of the academy though. As i said, i do not wish to brag about kills. As they are commited by more expierienced members of the PA. Your emphasis on this part is simply dragging the attention away. But we'll meet in x-70 anyway :) -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:41:00 - [311] LOL Rod, brilliant :P -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:41:00 - [312] LOL Rod, brilliant :P -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:43:00 - [313] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Val Duane Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. Ever heard of NPC's dropping them Considering we are not based or ever have been based in BKG i would not be to worried about what is in our hangers Do the Gurristas drop them right inside your hanger then ? Jade this is low even for you BASED = HQ sure we have been to BKG in the passed but during peace times we are very rarely in venal as we like to hunt pirates for example our venture to syndicate. We might have spent a few days in bkg but it has never been our base as it is only useful for mining which we have 0 interest in
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:43:00 - [314] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Val Duane Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. Ever heard of NPC's dropping them Considering we are not based or ever have been based in BKG i would not be to worried about what is in our hangers Do the Gurristas drop them right inside your hanger then ? Jade this is low even for you BASED = HQ sure we have been to BKG in the passed but during peace times we are very rarely in venal as we like to hunt pirates for example our venture to syndicate. We might have spent a few days in bkg but it has never been our base as it is only useful for mining which we have 0 interest in
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:46:00 - [315] Originally by: Luc Boye LOL Rod, brilliant :P Hmmmm...I wonder when they are going to realese an asskisser smiley to go whit that comment. //Rec
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:46:00 - [316] Originally by: Luc Boye LOL Rod, brilliant :P Hmmmm...I wonder when they are going to realese an asskisser smiley to go whit that comment. //Rec
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:46:00 - [317] Edited by: Reiisha on 25/08/2004 10:50:01 Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe If PA is dying, then what is happening with deklein/fade? One can easily notice that deklein is a ghost town. Empty as tenal region (which was 'claimed' by SOL). Not a soul there. How is NCA victorious? DeKlein is claimed by CoD. If you'd look at the map at the right times instead of flying through it with your double-mwd rifter, you'd see that. To counter our point, where is PA? Branch, Tenal and Venal are mostly devoid of PA. They simply blob up in BKG. Smart "argument" you make Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:46:00 - [318] Edited by: Reiisha on 25/08/2004 10:50:01 Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe If PA is dying, then what is happening with deklein/fade? One can easily notice that deklein is a ghost town. Empty as tenal region (which was 'claimed' by SOL). Not a soul there. How is NCA victorious? DeKlein is claimed by CoD. If you'd look at the map at the right times instead of flying through it with your double-mwd rifter, you'd see that. To counter our point, where is PA? Branch, Tenal and Venal are mostly devoid of PA. They simply blob up in BKG. Smart "argument" you make Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:47:00 - [319] Edited by: Luc Boye on 25/08/2004 11:05:17 Edited by: Luc Boye on 25/08/2004 10:52:35 Originally by: Recluse XXX Originally by: Luc Boye LOL Rod, brilliant :P Hmmmm...I wonder when they are going to realese an asskisser smiley to go whit that comment. //Rec When you guys update your losses list properly, ie never. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:47:00 - [320] Edited by: Luc Boye on 25/08/2004 11:05:17 Edited by: Luc Boye on 25/08/2004 10:52:35 Originally by: Recluse XXX Originally by: Luc Boye LOL Rod, brilliant :P Hmmmm...I wonder when they are going to realese an asskisser smiley to go whit that comment. //Rec When you guys update your losses list properly, ie never. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:51:00 - [321] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Val Duane Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. Ever heard of NPC's dropping them Considering we are not based or ever have been based in BKG i would not be to worried about what is in our hangers Do the Gurristas drop them right inside your hanger then ? Jade....Lame comeback
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:51:00 - [322] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Val Duane Anyone notice the 63 WCS in the Running-KIA hanger? Think you guys are running out there. Best build some more. Ever heard of NPC's dropping them Considering we are not based or ever have been based in BKG i would not be to worried about what is in our hangers Do the Gurristas drop them right inside your hanger then ? Jade....Lame comeback
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:54:00 - [323] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Jade effectively slapped you in the face with her gloves and named you a cad sir. You humbly beg off - so I guess that means you can't demand anything. Grimster, Jade was offer a fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Jade knows this would be a slaughter of the highest degree so he does not accept it and in his normal way turns it in a siutation that he could win by challening a character that is 1/4 jades ages to a 1 vs 1 Jade calls the PA snakes but Jade i must say you slithered out of that one pretty well
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:54:00 - [324] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Jade effectively slapped you in the face with her gloves and named you a cad sir. You humbly beg off - so I guess that means you can't demand anything. Grimster, Jade was offer a fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Jade knows this would be a slaughter of the highest degree so he does not accept it and in his normal way turns it in a siutation that he could win by challening a character that is 1/4 jades ages to a 1 vs 1 Jade calls the PA snakes but Jade i must say you slithered out of that one pretty well
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:57:00 - [325] Jade, a very long and thorough answer as always. Thank you. What you failed to see though is that in my posts I did not direct this matter only towards 'my' enemies. I merely pointed out this, to me, disturbing matter and directed it towards everyone. That includes my brothers and sister within the PA. It was merely a (futile) attempt to get everyoneÆs attention that we can fight this war in space and here on the forums without having to lower the bar to the level where it currently is. I apologize if I wasn't clear enough about my intent and to whom it was directed. As for the rest of your post I understand what you are trying to say and respect your view on this matter. Speaking for North Star Networks I can say that we have always been respected and I think it's sad that some out there are loosing this respect due to how this war is evolving. If that is due to enemy propaganda, enemy misinformation or how PA has acted is quite irrelevant in this particular question. North Star Networks once upon a time agreed to join the Phoenix Alliance and by doing so we agreed to work for the alliance in both good and bad times. NSN is still a proud member of the PA and will continue to be loyal and fight for the cause. North Star Networks would never break a deal, an arrangement and above all not the trust and responsibility that being a member of an alliance is. Especially not during hard times like these and certainly not because of outside pressure. If NSN ever was to give up a responsibility of any kind we would do so for our own reasons, that only, and we would do it at a time when it would make as little impact as possible on the ones we had a agreement with. Fly safe Regards, Leafo North Star Networks - Proud member of the Phoenix Alliance click on sig for all my videos
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:57:00 - [326] Jade, a very long and thorough answer as always. Thank you. What you failed to see though is that in my posts I did not direct this matter only towards 'my' enemies. I merely pointed out this, to me, disturbing matter and directed it towards everyone. That includes my brothers and sister within the PA. It was merely a (futile) attempt to get everyoneÆs attention that we can fight this war in space and here on the forums without having to lower the bar to the level where it currently is. I apologize if I wasn't clear enough about my intent and to whom it was directed. As for the rest of your post I understand what you are trying to say and respect your view on this matter. Speaking for North Star Networks I can say that we have always been respected and I think it's sad that some out there are loosing this respect due to how this war is evolving. If that is due to enemy propaganda, enemy misinformation or how PA has acted is quite irrelevant in this particular question. North Star Networks once upon a time agreed to join the Phoenix Alliance and by doing so we agreed to work for the alliance in both good and bad times. NSN is still a proud member of the PA and will continue to be loyal and fight for the cause. North Star Networks would never break a deal, an arrangement and above all not the trust and responsibility that being a member of an alliance is. Especially not during hard times like these and certainly not because of outside pressure. If NSN ever was to give up a responsibility of any kind we would do so for our own reasons, that only, and we would do it at a time when it would make as little impact as possible on the ones we had a agreement with. Fly safe Regards, Leafo North Star Networks - Proud member of the Phoenix Alliance click on sig for all my videos
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:58:00 - [327] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 25/08/2004 11:00:35 Monsieur Ne'Arthe Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Edited by: Nestor Ne'Arthe on 25/08/2004 10:42:40 You are still skipping the merit of the first post ms. Jade. If you do not dare to comment the most obvious parts, i guess its too unconvinient for you, too bad, lets leave it that way. You are foisting the assumption that the first post you made actually had some merit my dear, but from my perspective your attack on my military participation in the war (marked by some 70 odd spaceship kills to this point) rendered the remainder of your argument somewhat void. I gave you the opportunity to call me to account in space the ignorance in military matters you perceive in my character and you chose (as is your right) to refuse the challenge. But having refused it, you might now have the good manners to cede the points on military issues from this debate. Quote: On the other hand, i need you to share your wisdom with me. How does bullying 4 times younger character correspond to knowledge of the state of enemy fleet? Im lacking some elements of logic here, im fresh out of the academy though. Then I might suggest that you pipe down a little in rhetorical debate with the enemy CEO's until you learn to back up your spoken bravado with combat prowess and courage? Of course since you admit your inexperience it would be only polite for me to offer you the option of limiting ship classes in a duel. Would you care to dance with frigates or cruisers? (I am sure you can operate such vessels) (Which does does of course leave the question of why you "a fresh out of the academy" inexperienced pilot feels it is appropriate to question the competence of a veteran of numerous wars and countless political conflicts in the region your corporation thinks to claim.) Quote: As i said, i do not wish to brag about kills. As they are commited by more expierienced members of the PA. Your emphasis on this part is simply dragging the attention away. But we'll meet in x-70 anyway :) Well monsieur, I would advise a more measured tone in the future when addressing even enemy leaders. You shouldn't believe everything you read in the PA propaganda press ... I don't always lose combats to energy-draining thoraxes you know ;) *** PS Rod, that was fantastic - Bravo! JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:58:00 - [328] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 25/08/2004 11:00:35 Monsieur Ne'Arthe Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Edited by: Nestor Ne'Arthe on 25/08/2004 10:42:40 You are still skipping the merit of the first post ms. Jade. If you do not dare to comment the most obvious parts, i guess its too unconvinient for you, too bad, lets leave it that way. You are foisting the assumption that the first post you made actually had some merit my dear, but from my perspective your attack on my military participation in the war (marked by some 70 odd spaceship kills to this point) rendered the remainder of your argument somewhat void. I gave you the opportunity to call me to account in space the ignorance in military matters you perceive in my character and you chose (as is your right) to refuse the challenge. But having refused it, you might now have the good manners to cede the points on military issues from this debate. Quote: On the other hand, i need you to share your wisdom with me. How does bullying 4 times younger character correspond to knowledge of the state of enemy fleet? Im lacking some elements of logic here, im fresh out of the academy though. Then I might suggest that you pipe down a little in rhetorical debate with the enemy CEO's until you learn to back up your spoken bravado with combat prowess and courage? Of course since you admit your inexperience it would be only polite for me to offer you the option of limiting ship classes in a duel. Would you care to dance with frigates or cruisers? (I am sure you can operate such vessels) (Which does does of course leave the question of why you "a fresh out of the academy" inexperienced pilot feels it is appropriate to question the competence of a veteran of numerous wars and countless political conflicts in the region your corporation thinks to claim.) Quote: As i said, i do not wish to brag about kills. As they are commited by more expierienced members of the PA. Your emphasis on this part is simply dragging the attention away. But we'll meet in x-70 anyway :) Well monsieur, I would advise a more measured tone in the future when addressing even enemy leaders. You shouldn't believe everything you read in the PA propaganda press ... I don't always lose combats to energy-draining thoraxes you know ;) *** PS Rod, that was fantastic - Bravo! JF Public Forum
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:02:00 - [329] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Jade effectively slapped you in the face with her gloves and named you a cad sir. You humbly beg off - so I guess that means you can't demand anything. Grimster, Jade was offer a fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Jade knows this would be a slaughter of the highest degree so he does not accept it and in his normal way turns it in a siutation that he could win by challening a character that is 1/4 jades ages to a 1 vs 1 Jade calls the PA snakes but Jade i must say you slithered out of that one pretty well Hmm Artegg, I could of course now point out that inviting NCA-m0o/evol/RKK for a fight against the PA and saying PA would pwn them then is paramount to saying NCA+m0o/evol/RKK is pretty much killing PA at this moment. Further more I could also point out that m0o/evol and part of RKK are only active in Venal/Tneal/Branch while Jade and friends are in Fade... This could lead us to conclude that the fleet battle of NCA-m0o/evol/RKK has already taken place since I knwo NCA hasnt been sitting still, and I assume you will tell me PA hasn't either. This in turn could lead me to believe and mention that this pwnage did not go off as well as you seem to hope it would, as NCA-M0o/evol/RKK are still around aren't they ? You know what ? I think I'll do just that and go mention this all. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:02:00 - [330] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Jade effectively slapped you in the face with her gloves and named you a cad sir. You humbly beg off - so I guess that means you can't demand anything. Grimster, Jade was offer a fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Jade knows this would be a slaughter of the highest degree so he does not accept it and in his normal way turns it in a siutation that he could win by challening a character that is 1/4 jades ages to a 1 vs 1 Jade calls the PA snakes but Jade i must say you slithered out of that one pretty well Hmm Artegg, I could of course now point out that inviting NCA-m0o/evol/RKK for a fight against the PA and saying PA would pwn them then is paramount to saying NCA+m0o/evol/RKK is pretty much killing PA at this moment. Further more I could also point out that m0o/evol and part of RKK are only active in Venal/Tneal/Branch while Jade and friends are in Fade... This could lead us to conclude that the fleet battle of NCA-m0o/evol/RKK has already taken place since I knwo NCA hasnt been sitting still, and I assume you will tell me PA hasn't either. This in turn could lead me to believe and mention that this pwnage did not go off as well as you seem to hope it would, as NCA-M0o/evol/RKK are still around aren't they ? You know what ? I think I'll do just that and go mention this all. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:15:00 - [331] Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:15:00 - [332] Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. *Spawn of the Devil*
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:16:00 - [333] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Jade effectively slapped you in the face with her gloves and named you a cad sir. You humbly beg off - so I guess that means you can't demand anything. Grimster, Jade was offer a fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Jade knows this would be a slaughter of the highest degree so he does not accept it and in his normal way turns it in a siutation that he could win by challening a character that is 1/4 jades ages to a 1 vs 1 Jade calls the PA snakes but Jade i must say you slithered out of that one pretty well Hmm Artegg, I could of course now point out that inviting NCA-m0o/evol/RKK for a fight against the PA and saying PA would pwn them then is paramount to saying NCA+m0o/evol/RKK is pretty much killing PA at this moment. Further more I could also point out that m0o/evol and part of RKK are only active in Venal/Tneal/Branch while Jade and friends are in Fade... This could lead us to conclude that the fleet battle of NCA-m0o/evol/RKK has already taken place since I knwo NCA hasnt been sitting still, and I assume you will tell me PA hasn't either. This in turn could lead me to believe and mention that this pwnage did not go off as well as you seem to hope it would, as NCA-M0o/evol/RKK are still around aren't they ? You know what ? I think I'll do just that and go mention this all. Rod it was not me that made the initail challenge i was just just pointing out how jade manipluates and changes things to her advantage. As the Challenge was not laid down by me, directing your comments at me is rather odd as that has nothing to do with my post
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:16:00 - [334] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe Ps. Unfortunately my schelude is quite tight, and with heavy heart i must decline the offered date. Maybe some other time? :) Jade effectively slapped you in the face with her gloves and named you a cad sir. You humbly beg off - so I guess that means you can't demand anything. Grimster, Jade was offer a fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Jade knows this would be a slaughter of the highest degree so he does not accept it and in his normal way turns it in a siutation that he could win by challening a character that is 1/4 jades ages to a 1 vs 1 Jade calls the PA snakes but Jade i must say you slithered out of that one pretty well Hmm Artegg, I could of course now point out that inviting NCA-m0o/evol/RKK for a fight against the PA and saying PA would pwn them then is paramount to saying NCA+m0o/evol/RKK is pretty much killing PA at this moment. Further more I could also point out that m0o/evol and part of RKK are only active in Venal/Tneal/Branch while Jade and friends are in Fade... This could lead us to conclude that the fleet battle of NCA-m0o/evol/RKK has already taken place since I knwo NCA hasnt been sitting still, and I assume you will tell me PA hasn't either. This in turn could lead me to believe and mention that this pwnage did not go off as well as you seem to hope it would, as NCA-M0o/evol/RKK are still around aren't they ? You know what ? I think I'll do just that and go mention this all. Rod it was not me that made the initail challenge i was just just pointing out how jade manipluates and changes things to her advantage. As the Challenge was not laid down by me, directing your comments at me is rather odd as that has nothing to do with my post
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:16:00 - [335] Jade, of course my first post had merit. You just do not choose to see it. Reminder: you are making a fuss about PA 'allying' with CA/TPS, and claim high moral ground emphasising that PA is 'allied' with Curse Alliance (oh those bad bad pwirates!) and The PIRATE Syndicate, while there are few known facts to both sides : - TPS downs PA ships when they feel like it - TPS doesnt have official agreements with anyone - TPS fights NCA for their own reasons - CA doesnt show up in the north at all - NCA is allied with m0o (miners 0f orion, its some false PA propaganda that they are pirates) - NCA is allied with evol (they are peacefull scientist working on evolutional matters) And even though we all know the points listed above, you still try to lure some part of the readers into believing that PA really stands for Pirate Alliance, isnt that hypocrisy? Now to the emphasised part. I did not challenge you, i simply pointed out that you are taking voice in matters of bkg/venal while you werent seen there at all. You are making comments about social and military state of northern regions, while you do not have any first hand knowledge. Furthermore, its quite hilarious that you try to rub out the points about piracy mentioned above with quite eloquent posts about your/mine military expierience, completely hijacking the meaning of original post. I fail to see the PA propaganda, i fail to see any PA posts here about the state of our organisation (except the one above, which is somewhat rare compared to number of rokomoovoloNCAlution posts). I have my own will and free mind, and everything i know and believe is based on first hand expierience. And finally, props to mr. Luc Boyle, if there were smacktalking awards, he would have gold. Your one liners really catch attention, i guess thats what you aim for :) -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:16:00 - [336] Jade, of course my first post had merit. You just do not choose to see it. Reminder: you are making a fuss about PA 'allying' with CA/TPS, and claim high moral ground emphasising that PA is 'allied' with Curse Alliance (oh those bad bad pwirates!) and The PIRATE Syndicate, while there are few known facts to both sides : - TPS downs PA ships when they feel like it - TPS doesnt have official agreements with anyone - TPS fights NCA for their own reasons - CA doesnt show up in the north at all - NCA is allied with m0o (miners 0f orion, its some false PA propaganda that they are pirates) - NCA is allied with evol (they are peacefull scientist working on evolutional matters) And even though we all know the points listed above, you still try to lure some part of the readers into believing that PA really stands for Pirate Alliance, isnt that hypocrisy? Now to the emphasised part. I did not challenge you, i simply pointed out that you are taking voice in matters of bkg/venal while you werent seen there at all. You are making comments about social and military state of northern regions, while you do not have any first hand knowledge. Furthermore, its quite hilarious that you try to rub out the points about piracy mentioned above with quite eloquent posts about your/mine military expierience, completely hijacking the meaning of original post. I fail to see the PA propaganda, i fail to see any PA posts here about the state of our organisation (except the one above, which is somewhat rare compared to number of rokomoovoloNCAlution posts). I have my own will and free mind, and everything i know and believe is based on first hand expierience. And finally, props to mr. Luc Boyle, if there were smacktalking awards, he would have gold. Your one liners really catch attention, i guess thats what you aim for :) -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:19:00 - [337] Originally by: Omniwar Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. Top idea Omni, I would be up for it. But can you say, Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagfeeeeeeeeeest. It'd come down to who has the most people and we know both sides can, with an organised event like this, weild ridiculous amounts of ships on each side.
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:19:00 - [338] Originally by: Omniwar Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. Top idea Omni, I would be up for it. But can you say, Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagfeeeeeeeeeest. It'd come down to who has the most people and we know both sides can, with an organised event like this, weild ridiculous amounts of ships on each side.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:20:00 - [339] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 11:21:53 Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe And finally, props to mr. Luc Boyle, if there were smacktalking awards, he would have gold. Your one liners really catch attention, i guess thats what you aim for :) Oh no, the gold medal was already awarded to one of your alliance members. My guess is he is still trying to talk himself out of it with some people he'd rather not have on his back. Really. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:20:00 - [340] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 11:21:53 Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe And finally, props to mr. Luc Boyle, if there were smacktalking awards, he would have gold. Your one liners really catch attention, i guess thats what you aim for :) Oh no, the gold medal was already awarded to one of your alliance members. My guess is he is still trying to talk himself out of it with some people he'd rather not have on his back. Really. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:22:00 - [341] Edited by: Artegg on 25/08/2004 11:24:51 Originally by: Omniwar Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. I would love to accept your challenge but (I know this will sound lame but TBH i don't care), currently i am about 150miles from my computer working in london, i have just semi moved up here and currently i dont have my own flat, I am staying a friends house for a few weeks so i am not entirely sure when i will have access to my computer again. With that in mind it is not up for me to make or accept Challenges that i can not take part in
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:22:00 - [342] Edited by: Artegg on 25/08/2004 11:24:51 Originally by: Omniwar Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. I would love to accept your challenge but (I know this will sound lame but TBH i don't care), currently i am about 150miles from my computer working in london, i have just semi moved up here and currently i dont have my own flat, I am staying a friends house for a few weeks so i am not entirely sure when i will have access to my computer again. With that in mind it is not up for me to make or accept Challenges that i can not take part in
Fillmeup	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:24:00 - [343] Lol, this whole thread is about an hour worth of amusement. It is sad to fight with your neighbours (perhaps you should have returned that Lawn-Mower!! ), but in all reality, I doubt many concerned have any idea of what is behind it at all. Most of the PA chaps I come across are a great bunch of peeps to chat to in local, whether they have been podded or not, and for that they have my respect. When posed the question of why the fight is occurring, most simply don't know. A lack of communication, commitment to established agreements, and over-riding ego's is what started this, nothing more. The facts have been so misconstrued now that realistically neither side could easily dig themselves out of it without a loss of honor or some serious compromises. Thats Life, Thats EVE(TM). NB: this is not the opinion of my corp, my alliance, my french-fries nor my crokite. It's just me voicing my opinion.
Fillmeup	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:24:00 - [344] Lol, this whole thread is about an hour worth of amusement. It is sad to fight with your neighbours (perhaps you should have returned that Lawn-Mower!! ), but in all reality, I doubt many concerned have any idea of what is behind it at all. Most of the PA chaps I come across are a great bunch of peeps to chat to in local, whether they have been podded or not, and for that they have my respect. When posed the question of why the fight is occurring, most simply don't know. A lack of communication, commitment to established agreements, and over-riding ego's is what started this, nothing more. The facts have been so misconstrued now that realistically neither side could easily dig themselves out of it without a loss of honor or some serious compromises. Thats Life, Thats EVE(TM). NB: this is not the opinion of my corp, my alliance, my french-fries nor my crokite. It's just me voicing my opinion.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:26:00 - [345] Originally by: Omniwar Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. Just to make things clear, Omni speaks for EVOL as well. The ball is in your corner mate.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:26:00 - [346] Originally by: Omniwar Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. Just to make things clear, Omni speaks for EVOL as well. The ball is in your corner mate.
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:28:00 - [347] Originally by: Artegg I would love to accept your challenge but (I know this will sound lame but TBH i don't care), currently i am about 150miles from my computer working in london, i have just semi moved up here and currently i dont have my own flat, I am staying a friends house for a few weeks so i am not entirely sure when i will have access to my computer again. With that in mind it is not up for me to make or accept Challenges that i can not take part in Then why the hell are you posting bid boasting words on the forums if you arent even playing the game Big boasting words are claiming that someone would be owned in fleet battle but you wont be there because you dont have your PC. What you just wrote my friend has totally killed your credability since you boast but you arent actually fighting, isnt it so ? *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:28:00 - [348] Originally by: Artegg I would love to accept your challenge but (I know this will sound lame but TBH i don't care), currently i am about 150miles from my computer working in london, i have just semi moved up here and currently i dont have my own flat, I am staying a friends house for a few weeks so i am not entirely sure when i will have access to my computer again. With that in mind it is not up for me to make or accept Challenges that i can not take part in Then why the hell are you posting bid boasting words on the forums if you arent even playing the game Big boasting words are claiming that someone would be owned in fleet battle but you wont be there because you dont have your PC. What you just wrote my friend has totally killed your credability since you boast but you arent actually fighting, isnt it so ? *Spawn of the Devil*
Fred0	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:29:00 - [349] FAO: The ones wishing to skip parts. Summary of topic: 1. Halseth states the PA's intentions. 2. Pot's calling Kettles black. Public outcries.
Fred0	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:29:00 - [350] FAO: The ones wishing to skip parts. Summary of topic: 1. Halseth states the PA's intentions. 2. Pot's calling Kettles black. Public outcries.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:29:00 - [351] Monsieur Leafo, I do appreciate that you are one of the most honest and reasonable men in the Pheonix Alliance currently, and I am pretty much convinced that had you been running the show three months ago this war wouldnÆt have happened. I donÆt think you would have promised to eject CDI Corporation from the PA for future ceasefire breaches and then gone back on your word when they happened. From my reading of your personality and character and general behaviour I simply donÆt believe thatÆs the sort of man you are. For there to be an honourable dispute and mutual respect between combatants there needs to be certain levels of honesty and trust between the principle enemies. Think about it, even the arranging of temporary truces, codes of combat, rules of conduct etc etc, are dependent on trusting the word of oneÆs opposite numbers. And sadly, since this is pretty much a war about lying, oathbreaking, snakery and deceit on the part of the PA leadership, its been pretty much impossible to reach the point of trusting their word on anything. Add that to the propaganda and smears and such and you have an environment that is abusive and bitter and designed to create animosity and hate. Even in this very thread you see some pretty solid examples Leafo: in the last few posts you see a chap from DDNN challenging my military record in the war, me responding with an offer to 1v1 to demonstrate competence and courage, and yet now Artegg arrives to belittle the simplicity of single combat with slurs about bullying and evasion! That frankly is all you need to know about the mindset of your companions and leaders in the PA Leafo. A decent organisation would have said nothing, would have let the matter pass between two pilots discussing a duel, and if such didnÆt happen (as in this case perhaps) the matter would have dropped. But no, Artegg has to try and make propaganda mileage of the fact I appear to have inadvertently challenged a novice. That is where the hatred and bitterness comes from à that mindset. Anyhow, to North Star Networks in discussion, yes, I think everyone remembers how you were respected before this war, and it is sad that you are losing that respect, but the truth of the matter is that you are being judged on your association with the PA. The conduct of the PA reflects on your reputation. Every appalling personal attack, every smear, every lie, every misdirection and dirty little compromise is being reflected on your corporation because you are a full and active member of the PA. It is ridiculous to think otherwise. If Jericho Fraction joined the Curse Alliance or the Pirate Syndicate or some such organisation we would be judged on the actions of our alliance partners. ThatÆs the reality of public reputation, it will not change. When you join an alliance you are saying ômy corporation will henceforth be known and judged by the ethics and actions of this allianceö. If the alliance is cowardly à you are cowardly. If the alliance is deceitful à you are deceitful. If the alliance posts ridiculous propaganda and then publicly cries about the enemy having spies in its gangs à then that is you throwing your toys out of the pram right alongside Halseth and Bobby Wilson. I know these are unpalatable facts Leafo but they are facts. If you want to stand alone and be judged for the actions of North Star Networks alone then you have to build your own separate reputation free of the compromises and hatreds of alliance leaders. I canÆt stress enough that this really isnÆt your fight. You didnÆt betray Jericho Fraction in the NVA days and spy on our forums and intrigue and manipulate and make nasty little deals with the FE. You didnÆt support the coup that threw our investment in the region into our faces. You didnÆt support the HellÆs Angels front corporation that Artegg and RONA-KIA sent after us in exile. You didnÆt attack Reikoku repeatedly and betray the NAST that your leaders presented. You did none of this Leafo, North Star Networks did none of this. But you are being punished for it because you stand shoulder to should with the people that did. You are currently functioning as some kind of ethical ômeat shieldö for cynical manipulators in the heart of your alliance that are desperately trying to salvage some spite-wrought hate-beladen outcome from this war that will leave the PA you joined a threadbare remnant stripped of all meaning and constituent political identity before the regional landscape changes much more. I do respect your loyalty and commitment to the ideal of the PA. But its dead man. ItÆs gone. The body remains, shuddering and writhing and wriggling at bay from the hounds à But the spirit and ideal is dead. And thatÆs where even a marriage-bond must finally end. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:29:00 - [352] Monsieur Leafo, I do appreciate that you are one of the most honest and reasonable men in the Pheonix Alliance currently, and I am pretty much convinced that had you been running the show three months ago this war wouldnÆt have happened. I donÆt think you would have promised to eject CDI Corporation from the PA for future ceasefire breaches and then gone back on your word when they happened. From my reading of your personality and character and general behaviour I simply donÆt believe thatÆs the sort of man you are. For there to be an honourable dispute and mutual respect between combatants there needs to be certain levels of honesty and trust between the principle enemies. Think about it, even the arranging of temporary truces, codes of combat, rules of conduct etc etc, are dependent on trusting the word of oneÆs opposite numbers. And sadly, since this is pretty much a war about lying, oathbreaking, snakery and deceit on the part of the PA leadership, its been pretty much impossible to reach the point of trusting their word on anything. Add that to the propaganda and smears and such and you have an environment that is abusive and bitter and designed to create animosity and hate. Even in this very thread you see some pretty solid examples Leafo: in the last few posts you see a chap from DDNN challenging my military record in the war, me responding with an offer to 1v1 to demonstrate competence and courage, and yet now Artegg arrives to belittle the simplicity of single combat with slurs about bullying and evasion! That frankly is all you need to know about the mindset of your companions and leaders in the PA Leafo. A decent organisation would have said nothing, would have let the matter pass between two pilots discussing a duel, and if such didnÆt happen (as in this case perhaps) the matter would have dropped. But no, Artegg has to try and make propaganda mileage of the fact I appear to have inadvertently challenged a novice. That is where the hatred and bitterness comes from à that mindset. Anyhow, to North Star Networks in discussion, yes, I think everyone remembers how you were respected before this war, and it is sad that you are losing that respect, but the truth of the matter is that you are being judged on your association with the PA. The conduct of the PA reflects on your reputation. Every appalling personal attack, every smear, every lie, every misdirection and dirty little compromise is being reflected on your corporation because you are a full and active member of the PA. It is ridiculous to think otherwise. If Jericho Fraction joined the Curse Alliance or the Pirate Syndicate or some such organisation we would be judged on the actions of our alliance partners. ThatÆs the reality of public reputation, it will not change. When you join an alliance you are saying ômy corporation will henceforth be known and judged by the ethics and actions of this allianceö. If the alliance is cowardly à you are cowardly. If the alliance is deceitful à you are deceitful. If the alliance posts ridiculous propaganda and then publicly cries about the enemy having spies in its gangs à then that is you throwing your toys out of the pram right alongside Halseth and Bobby Wilson. I know these are unpalatable facts Leafo but they are facts. If you want to stand alone and be judged for the actions of North Star Networks alone then you have to build your own separate reputation free of the compromises and hatreds of alliance leaders. I canÆt stress enough that this really isnÆt your fight. You didnÆt betray Jericho Fraction in the NVA days and spy on our forums and intrigue and manipulate and make nasty little deals with the FE. You didnÆt support the coup that threw our investment in the region into our faces. You didnÆt support the HellÆs Angels front corporation that Artegg and RONA-KIA sent after us in exile. You didnÆt attack Reikoku repeatedly and betray the NAST that your leaders presented. You did none of this Leafo, North Star Networks did none of this. But you are being punished for it because you stand shoulder to should with the people that did. You are currently functioning as some kind of ethical ômeat shieldö for cynical manipulators in the heart of your alliance that are desperately trying to salvage some spite-wrought hate-beladen outcome from this war that will leave the PA you joined a threadbare remnant stripped of all meaning and constituent political identity before the regional landscape changes much more. I do respect your loyalty and commitment to the ideal of the PA. But its dead man. ItÆs gone. The body remains, shuddering and writhing and wriggling at bay from the hounds à But the spirit and ideal is dead. And thatÆs where even a marriage-bond must finally end. JF Public Forum
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:30:00 - [353] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: Omniwar Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. Just to make things clear, Omni speaks for EVOL as well. The ball is in your corner mate. OMFG!!! Sign me up for this lag fest. I wouldn't miss it for the world! b0oyakasha!!
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:30:00 - [354] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: Omniwar Edited by: Omniwar on 25/08/2004 11:16:49 Originally by: Artegg fleet battle NCA - m0o,rkk and evol vs the PA fleet, Does that mean PA is willing to fight only NCA in a fleet battle but not m0o, EVOL and RKK ? I assume that this - represents a minus, correct me if I am wrong please. If I am wrong then we accept this challenge for a fleet battle, the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners and the winning side of that fight will choose if they want to warp in the the enemy or let the enemy warp to them, fight keeps on until all ships on either side are destroyed, not a single ship from the loosing side may warp to safespot when its clear that the battle is lost. If this is to happen then the fight should take place after one week and should be on sunday evening, time can be arranged when reps from both sides have discussions about this event. There will be from both sides at least 1 person recording the fight and they should remain cloaked but still in gang for better view of events taking place. This would be an honorable fight and this is what some member of CA once asked us to do and I called his bluff and demanded a honorable prepared battle but sadly that was then withdrawn from the CA's side. Do you accept ? The ball is in your corner mate. Just to make things clear, Omni speaks for EVOL as well. The ball is in your corner mate. OMFG!!! Sign me up for this lag fest. I wouldn't miss it for the world! b0oyakasha!!
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:31:00 - [355] Sirmolle please see my last reply Due to my current RL situation i am not in a position to make or accept challenges. Also you guys know perfectly well we will fight you in fleet battles after all there is a lot of fraps floating around of us doing it remember the camera never lies
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:31:00 - [356] Sirmolle please see my last reply Due to my current RL situation i am not in a position to make or accept challenges. Also you guys know perfectly well we will fight you in fleet battles after all there is a lot of fraps floating around of us doing it remember the camera never lies
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:36:00 - [357] Originally by: Omniwar Originally by: Artegg I would love to accept your challenge but (I know this will sound lame but TBH i don't care), currently i am about 150miles from my computer working in london, i have just semi moved up here and currently i dont have my own flat, I am staying a friends house for a few weeks so i am not entirely sure when i will have access to my computer again. With that in mind it is not up for me to make or accept Challenges that i can not take part in Then why the hell are you posting bid boasting words on the forums if you arent even playing the game Big boasting words are claiming that someone would be owned in fleet battle but you wont be there because you dont have your PC. What you just wrote my friend has totally killed your credability since you boast but you arent actually fighting, isnt it so ? I can comment as last time i played was the weekend just gone. Inless there has been a major change in the game mechanics then i feel i am in the position to comment on a game that i have played for 16 months. Omni can you clear something up for me are Evol/m0o part of the NCA or not?
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:36:00 - [358] Originally by: Omniwar Originally by: Artegg I would love to accept your challenge but (I know this will sound lame but TBH i don't care), currently i am about 150miles from my computer working in london, i have just semi moved up here and currently i dont have my own flat, I am staying a friends house for a few weeks so i am not entirely sure when i will have access to my computer again. With that in mind it is not up for me to make or accept Challenges that i can not take part in Then why the hell are you posting bid boasting words on the forums if you arent even playing the game Big boasting words are claiming that someone would be owned in fleet battle but you wont be there because you dont have your PC. What you just wrote my friend has totally killed your credability since you boast but you arent actually fighting, isnt it so ? I can comment as last time i played was the weekend just gone. Inless there has been a major change in the game mechanics then i feel i am in the position to comment on a game that i have played for 16 months. Omni can you clear something up for me are Evol/m0o part of the NCA or not?
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:45:00 - [359] Originally by: Artegg Sirmolle please see my last reply Due to my current RL situation i am not in a position to make or accept challenges. Also you guys know perfectly well we will fight you in fleet battles after all there is a lot of fraps floating around of us doing it remember the camera never lies I'm sorry, but all i read is "I'm busy washing my hair". If you cannot fight Artegg, if YOU cannot accept the challenge, then get someone who can. Put up or shut up.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:45:00 - [360] Originally by: Artegg Sirmolle please see my last reply Due to my current RL situation i am not in a position to make or accept challenges. Also you guys know perfectly well we will fight you in fleet battles after all there is a lot of fraps floating around of us doing it remember the camera never lies I'm sorry, but all i read is "I'm busy washing my hair". If you cannot fight Artegg, if YOU cannot accept the challenge, then get someone who can. Put up or shut up.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:49:00 - [361] Artegg, if your cowardly corporation can't face up to a fair and simple challenge from your opponents, then I suggest you take a little piece of your own advice that you printed yesterday. Quote: Watch and Learn jade this game is not all about the forums /me makes chicken noises dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:49:00 - [362] Artegg, if your cowardly corporation can't face up to a fair and simple challenge from your opponents, then I suggest you take a little piece of your own advice that you printed yesterday. Quote: Watch and Learn jade this game is not all about the forums /me makes chicken noises dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:56:00 - [363] LMFAO, is PA not gonna accept ? Lag is irrelevant since both sides will have it There is a strange cult that plays online games, they fight only when they know 100% that they will win. People not ready to fight, kill and die in an uncertain fight should stay in systems above 0.5 Now hush off from the boards since you arent ready to back up your words of superiority, or in your case you dont have your computer *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:56:00 - [364] LMFAO, is PA not gonna accept ? Lag is irrelevant since both sides will have it There is a strange cult that plays online games, they fight only when they know 100% that they will win. People not ready to fight, kill and die in an uncertain fight should stay in systems above 0.5 Now hush off from the boards since you arent ready to back up your words of superiority, or in your case you dont have your computer *Spawn of the Devil*
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:00:00 - [365] Originally by: DB Preacher Artegg, if your cowardly corporation can't face up to a fair and simple challenge from your opponents, then I suggest you take a little piece of your own advice that you printed yesterday. Quote: Watch and Learn jade this game is not all about the forums /me makes chicken noises dbp DBP this has nothing to do with my corperation this is about the PA not R-K so shut it
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:00:00 - [366] Originally by: DB Preacher Artegg, if your cowardly corporation can't face up to a fair and simple challenge from your opponents, then I suggest you take a little piece of your own advice that you printed yesterday. Quote: Watch and Learn jade this game is not all about the forums /me makes chicken noises dbp DBP this has nothing to do with my corperation this is about the PA not R-K so shut it
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:09:00 - [367] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: DB Preacher Artegg, if your cowardly corporation can't face up to a fair and simple challenge from your opponents, then I suggest you take a little piece of your own advice that you printed yesterday. Quote: Watch and Learn jade this game is not all about the forums /me makes chicken noises dbp DBP this has nothing to do with my corperation this is about the PA not R-K so shut it SHHHH Go away. You can't play your can't accept all you can do is wash your hair, now stop spamming this thread so someone with the authority who does actually still play eve and who possibly has the balls to accept or decline can answer. They probably still reading 2 or 3 pages back for all your useless posts saying you can't do naught...so hush!
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:09:00 - [368] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: DB Preacher Artegg, if your cowardly corporation can't face up to a fair and simple challenge from your opponents, then I suggest you take a little piece of your own advice that you printed yesterday. Quote: Watch and Learn jade this game is not all about the forums /me makes chicken noises dbp DBP this has nothing to do with my corperation this is about the PA not R-K so shut it SHHHH Go away. You can't play your can't accept all you can do is wash your hair, now stop spamming this thread so someone with the authority who does actually still play eve and who possibly has the balls to accept or decline can answer. They probably still reading 2 or 3 pages back for all your useless posts saying you can't do naught...so hush!
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:10:00 - [369] Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/08/2004 12:12:56 Your corporation is no longer members of the PA anymore? And since your corporation is supposedly one of the "Elite" pvp'ing corps both in the game and in your alliance, I would have been surprised if none of your members were included. However, considering all the "forum ***" slurs I get from your side, I think it's plain to see who has the balls to fight in the hotspots everynight without fear and who has the warp core stabs installed. Omni: I reckon you should open an official thread offering the position before the PA forum *s spam the thread to death while ignoring the challenge. At least your peen won't take anymore abuse for a while. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier** Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:10:00 - [370] Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/08/2004 12:12:56 Your corporation is no longer members of the PA anymore? And since your corporation is supposedly one of the "Elite" pvp'ing corps both in the game and in your alliance, I would have been surprised if none of your members were included. However, considering all the "forum ***" slurs I get from your side, I think it's plain to see who has the balls to fight in the hotspots everynight without fear and who has the warp core stabs installed. Omni: I reckon you should open an official thread offering the position before the PA forum *s spam the thread to death while ignoring the challenge. At least your peen won't take anymore abuse for a while. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier** Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:14:00 - [371] Originally by: Val Duane "Fight the fight with honour" wtf?? btw...nice video - g
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:14:00 - [372] Originally by: Val Duane "Fight the fight with honour" wtf?? btw...nice video - g
Grimster	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:14:00 - [373] I'm liking the fact that we have some PA people finally posting despite the "gagging order". Gives me something to do at work.
Grimster	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:14:00 - [374] I'm liking the fact that we have some PA people finally posting despite the "gagging order". Gives me something to do at work.
Selim	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:16:00 - [375] I dont see why everyone argues over the facts. We all know the following is true, and dont deny it. 1. A large number of PA are in empire 2. The majority of the remaining are in BKG trying to outblob rokom0lution, and are failing. 3. R-K and small numbers of other corps are in Fade and Deklein trying to gank lone travellers and miners, running when organized resistance turns up most of the time 4. PA is allied with Curse and TPS. TPS is the largest single pirate based force ever established in the history of EVE, and the Curse Alliance is hated EVEwide. PA are known to camp alongside TPS, and I recall an instance where a HAOS member was firing at a neutral while in a TPS gang. 5. The logs of PA gang logs show that PA is disorganized, and hesitant. The kind of people you know have 8 warp core stabilizers and are heading in safespot direction, as was stated in the ganglog. I conclude that the PA is definitely not on the right side of the law, and certainly dont fight 'honorably'. Then again, fighting honorably would be even numbers, no warp out, no jamming, etc. for the record: no, m0ovolution are not in the NCA, some alliances in the NCA will shoot at m0o, others have a non agression pact with them.
Selim	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:16:00 - [376] I dont see why everyone argues over the facts. We all know the following is true, and dont deny it. 1. A large number of PA are in empire 2. The majority of the remaining are in BKG trying to outblob rokom0lution, and are failing. 3. R-K and small numbers of other corps are in Fade and Deklein trying to gank lone travellers and miners, running when organized resistance turns up most of the time 4. PA is allied with Curse and TPS. TPS is the largest single pirate based force ever established in the history of EVE, and the Curse Alliance is hated EVEwide. PA are known to camp alongside TPS, and I recall an instance where a HAOS member was firing at a neutral while in a TPS gang. 5. The logs of PA gang logs show that PA is disorganized, and hesitant. The kind of people you know have 8 warp core stabilizers and are heading in safespot direction, as was stated in the ganglog. I conclude that the PA is definitely not on the right side of the law, and certainly dont fight 'honorably'. Then again, fighting honorably would be even numbers, no warp out, no jamming, etc. for the record: no, m0ovolution are not in the NCA, some alliances in the NCA will shoot at m0o, others have a non agression pact with them.
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:23:00 - [377] Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 12:28:26 Jade I will begin by apologizing that I'm not able to meet you on your level regarding political discussions. I'm a humble military man whose primary skills aren't in words on the political level you play on. I will try my best though and make one last statement this time regarding this matter. I thank you for putting time in answering my post on a higher level than most of the other authors in this thread. Much appreciated. What you write in your latest response is nothing new though. I left that out in my post as I personally see it as an obvious matter, thank you for clarifying that. When shouldering a responsibility such as joining an alliance it is quite obvious that the actions of that alliance as a whole will reflect on a corporation. This is exactly the same as a pilot is judged by it's corporations actions. And the other way around. We know this, I just pointed out that it is sad whatever the reason was. You say that this isn't really NSN's fight as we weren't, as you pointed out, in the NVA or directly involved in the events that supposedly started this war. But as I wrote in my earlier post we were members when all was good and we will continue to be loyal members when times are not as good. That whatÆs being in a alliance is all about, the alliances matter is our matter whatever it may be. And we have loads of fun with our brothers and sisters of the Phoenix Alliance. I'm very flattered by your high thoughts of me and my corporation, we are doing our best to play our part, but to be honest I think the war was inevitable. Sad but true. I will not go in to more details in this thread about why the war started and whose fault it was and so on as it has been discussed over and over again in other threads. There surely are many loose ends in my post here and for that I apologize beforehand. With this I take my leave from this discussion, you will find me in game. Thank you for your time. Regards, Leafo click on sig for all my videos
Leafo	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:23:00 - [378] Edited by: Leafo on 25/08/2004 12:28:26 Jade I will begin by apologizing that I'm not able to meet you on your level regarding political discussions. I'm a humble military man whose primary skills aren't in words on the political level you play on. I will try my best though and make one last statement this time regarding this matter. I thank you for putting time in answering my post on a higher level than most of the other authors in this thread. Much appreciated. What you write in your latest response is nothing new though. I left that out in my post as I personally see it as an obvious matter, thank you for clarifying that. When shouldering a responsibility such as joining an alliance it is quite obvious that the actions of that alliance as a whole will reflect on a corporation. This is exactly the same as a pilot is judged by it's corporations actions. And the other way around. We know this, I just pointed out that it is sad whatever the reason was. You say that this isn't really NSN's fight as we weren't, as you pointed out, in the NVA or directly involved in the events that supposedly started this war. But as I wrote in my earlier post we were members when all was good and we will continue to be loyal members when times are not as good. That whatÆs being in a alliance is all about, the alliances matter is our matter whatever it may be. And we have loads of fun with our brothers and sisters of the Phoenix Alliance. I'm very flattered by your high thoughts of me and my corporation, we are doing our best to play our part, but to be honest I think the war was inevitable. Sad but true. I will not go in to more details in this thread about why the war started and whose fault it was and so on as it has been discussed over and over again in other threads. There surely are many loose ends in my post here and for that I apologize beforehand. With this I take my leave from this discussion, you will find me in game. Thank you for your time. Regards, Leafo click on sig for all my videos
Grimster	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:25:00 - [379] Props to yah Leafo - good post.
Grimster	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:25:00 - [380] Props to yah Leafo - good post.
Fred0	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:26:00 - [381] Edited by: Fred0 on 25/08/2004 12:31:05 Originally by: Selim I dont see why everyone argues over the facts. We all know the following is true, and dont deny it. 1. A large number of PA are in empire 2. The majority of the remaining are in BKG trying to outblob rokom0lution, and are failing. 3. R-K and small numbers of other corps are in Fade and Deklein trying to gank lone travellers and miners, running when organized resistance turns up most of the time 4. PA is allied with Curse and TPS. TPS is the largest single pirate based force ever established in the history of EVE, and the Curse Alliance is hated EVEwide. PA are known to camp alongside TPS, and I recall an instance where a HAOS member was firing at a neutral while in a TPS gang. 5. The logs of PA gang logs show that PA is disorganized, and hesitant. The kind of people you know have 8 warp core stabilizers and are heading in safespot direction, as was stated in the ganglog. I conclude that the PA is definitely not on the right side of the law, and certainly dont fight 'honorably'. Then again, fighting honorably would be even numbers, no warp out, no jamming, etc. for the record: no, m0ovolution are not in the NCA, some alliances in the NCA will shoot at m0o, others have a non agression pact with them. 1. A much larger percentage of NCA are in empire. 2. Did you even read this topic or even Halseth's post. Clueless JF drivel. What a surprise. 3. You're point is? Everyone runs around ganking smaller numbers. It's how battle works. NCAm0ovolution is no different. 4. Lies and wrong. Check chatlogs on your own forums. or RKK. 5. Ok, if you say so. Mix and match some lies with half thruths and you've spun some more webs to trick unware..
Fred0	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:26:00 - [382] Edited by: Fred0 on 25/08/2004 12:31:05 Originally by: Selim I dont see why everyone argues over the facts. We all know the following is true, and dont deny it. 1. A large number of PA are in empire 2. The majority of the remaining are in BKG trying to outblob rokom0lution, and are failing. 3. R-K and small numbers of other corps are in Fade and Deklein trying to gank lone travellers and miners, running when organized resistance turns up most of the time 4. PA is allied with Curse and TPS. TPS is the largest single pirate based force ever established in the history of EVE, and the Curse Alliance is hated EVEwide. PA are known to camp alongside TPS, and I recall an instance where a HAOS member was firing at a neutral while in a TPS gang. 5. The logs of PA gang logs show that PA is disorganized, and hesitant. The kind of people you know have 8 warp core stabilizers and are heading in safespot direction, as was stated in the ganglog. I conclude that the PA is definitely not on the right side of the law, and certainly dont fight 'honorably'. Then again, fighting honorably would be even numbers, no warp out, no jamming, etc. for the record: no, m0ovolution are not in the NCA, some alliances in the NCA will shoot at m0o, others have a non agression pact with them. 1. A much larger percentage of NCA are in empire. 2. Did you even read this topic or even Halseth's post. Clueless JF drivel. What a surprise. 3. You're point is? Everyone runs around ganking smaller numbers. It's how battle works. NCAm0ovolution is no different. 4. Lies and wrong. Check chatlogs on your own forums. or RKK. 5. Ok, if you say so. Mix and match some lies with half thruths and you've spun some more webs to trick unware..
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:34:00 - [383] The entire fleet battle thing would be absolutely awesome. I am not part of the PA leadership, but If i were them, I would jump at the chance. the defetaed leave Tenal and Branch and never to return? Recorded by cloaked frigates, everyone would be able to see this battle. We could warn CCP in advance of the cluster that will need boosting. We could assemble 200 odd battleships per alliance I epxect. Send Axel out from R-K to murder your chosen one, in true gladiator style. ;) (not FLAMEBAIT!) Not sure wether it would make much difference warping in or being warped onto, as I have personally experienced bad lag from both sides. Overall, its a mouth watering prospect. :) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:34:00 - [384] The entire fleet battle thing would be absolutely awesome. I am not part of the PA leadership, but If i were them, I would jump at the chance. the defetaed leave Tenal and Branch and never to return? Recorded by cloaked frigates, everyone would be able to see this battle. We could warn CCP in advance of the cluster that will need boosting. We could assemble 200 odd battleships per alliance I epxect. Send Axel out from R-K to murder your chosen one, in true gladiator style. ;) (not FLAMEBAIT!) Not sure wether it would make much difference warping in or being warped onto, as I have personally experienced bad lag from both sides. Overall, its a mouth watering prospect. :) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:39:00 - [385] Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 12:41:25 a 200vs200 on a sunday afternoon bet we still have ppl on ts asking if it already started - next tuesday - g
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:39:00 - [386] Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 12:41:25 a 200vs200 on a sunday afternoon bet we still have ppl on ts asking if it already started - next tuesday - g
Presidio	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:40:00 - [387] We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Presidio	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:40:00 - [388] We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:44:00 - [389] Originally by: KIAEddZ The entire fleet battle thing would be absolutely awesome. I am not part of the PA leadership, but If i were them, I would jump at the chance. the defetaed leave Tenal and Branch and never to return? Recorded by cloaked frigates, everyone would be able to see this battle. We could warn CCP in advance of the cluster that will need boosting. We could assemble 200 odd battleships per alliance I epxect. Send Axel out from R-K to murder your chosen one, in true gladiator style. ;) (not FLAMEBAIT!) Not sure wether it would make much difference warping in or being warped onto, as I have personally experienced bad lag from both sides. Overall, its a mouth watering prospect. :) 400 ships slugging it out Personally i would send in a gankageddon as the rules are no jamming etc
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:44:00 - [390] Originally by: KIAEddZ The entire fleet battle thing would be absolutely awesome. I am not part of the PA leadership, but If i were them, I would jump at the chance. the defetaed leave Tenal and Branch and never to return? Recorded by cloaked frigates, everyone would be able to see this battle. We could warn CCP in advance of the cluster that will need boosting. We could assemble 200 odd battleships per alliance I epxect. Send Axel out from R-K to murder your chosen one, in true gladiator style. ;) (not FLAMEBAIT!) Not sure wether it would make much difference warping in or being warped onto, as I have personally experienced bad lag from both sides. Overall, its a mouth watering prospect. :) 400 ships slugging it out Personally i would send in a gankageddon as the rules are no jamming etc
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:45:00 - [391] Originally by: KIAEddZ Not sure wether it would make much difference warping in or being warped onto, as I have personally experienced bad lag from both sides. Overall, its a mouth watering prospect. :) So how about the fleets meet up, keep a certain distance and then it's action time once everyone seems pretty much loaded. Well.. until both sides call drones out and the servers blue screen. ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:45:00 - [392] Originally by: KIAEddZ Not sure wether it would make much difference warping in or being warped onto, as I have personally experienced bad lag from both sides. Overall, its a mouth watering prospect. :) So how about the fleets meet up, keep a certain distance and then it's action time once everyone seems pretty much loaded. Well.. until both sides call drones out and the servers blue screen. ¼©¼ a history
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:46:00 - [393] Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? SO you accept then, cool. Lets talk at what time this shall start on sunday after one week. Contact Shrike to arrange time and place for this fight. *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:46:00 - [394] Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? SO you accept then, cool. Lets talk at what time this shall start on sunday after one week. Contact Shrike to arrange time and place for this fight. *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:53:00 - [395] Originally by: Artegg Personally i would send in a gankageddon as the rules are no jamming etc Originally by: Omniwar the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners This was only meant for the 1on1 fight. *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:53:00 - [396] Originally by: Artegg Personally i would send in a gankageddon as the rules are no jamming etc Originally by: Omniwar the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners This was only meant for the 1on1 fight. *Spawn of the Devil*
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:58:00 - [397] I am not on the PA council. So cannot accept for the PA. If the PA say yes, R-K will be there in our droves. Have no fear of that. Although logistically, I have to question wether we could get 200 vs 200 ship battle going without bringing the server down. But its worth a try for sure :) The 80 vs 80 in PF was pretty bad. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:58:00 - [398] I am not on the PA council. So cannot accept for the PA. If the PA say yes, R-K will be there in our droves. Have no fear of that. Although logistically, I have to question wether we could get 200 vs 200 ship battle going without bringing the server down. But its worth a try for sure :) The 80 vs 80 in PF was pretty bad. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:59:00 - [399] Originally by: Omniwar Originally by: Artegg Personally i would send in a gankageddon as the rules are no jamming etc Originally by: Omniwar the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners This was only meant for the 1on1 fight. sorry that post was meant to come after eddz's in reference to sending our pet psycho in axel Also IF the fight was to be held on a sunday i think i might have to make the trip back home because this would be bloody fun
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 12:59:00 - [400] Originally by: Omniwar Originally by: Artegg Personally i would send in a gankageddon as the rules are no jamming etc Originally by: Omniwar the rules can be that it starts with a 1on1 fight without any Target jammers or Sensor Dampeners This was only meant for the 1on1 fight. sorry that post was meant to come after eddz's in reference to sending our pet psycho in axel Also IF the fight was to be held on a sunday i think i might have to make the trip back home because this would be bloody fun
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:01:00 - [401] Edited by: DoctorGonzo on 25/08/2004 13:03:59 NORAD will be there and ready. NORAD not shooting at m0o we'll have to sort closer to the time, maybe a one-day ceasefire for this special occasion? Edit: spelling and stuff Black Nova Corporation COO
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:01:00 - [402] Edited by: DoctorGonzo on 25/08/2004 13:03:59 NORAD will be there and ready. NORAD not shooting at m0o we'll have to sort closer to the time, maybe a one-day ceasefire for this special occasion? Edit: spelling and stuff Black Nova Corporation COO
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:07:00 - [403] In a weeks time the last CASTOR patch will be applied to Tranquility. If it fixes lag somewhat (it should do in empire regarding criminal flagging!) then perhaps we should wait for that? I took part in one of the most awesome battles I know of, in YZ-LQL when m0o + friends sat above it and the FA forces warped in. It spanned over an hour I think and the lag wasn't unplayable, we could activate modules, shoot and what not! I'm waiting in hope that something like that can be repeated. ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:07:00 - [404] In a weeks time the last CASTOR patch will be applied to Tranquility. If it fixes lag somewhat (it should do in empire regarding criminal flagging!) then perhaps we should wait for that? I took part in one of the most awesome battles I know of, in YZ-LQL when m0o + friends sat above it and the FA forces warped in. It spanned over an hour I think and the lag wasn't unplayable, we could activate modules, shoot and what not! I'm waiting in hope that something like that can be repeated. ¼©¼ a history
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:07:00 - [405] Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? Hehe. Ok, so if you're so sure you will win why don't you just get your ass back to bkg then and get this thing on ? Oh, I already know PA is gonna weazle out of this one... You see, they already win all the fleetbattles against us so they left the area to deal with 'bigger threats'. btw, anyone care to elaborate as to this 'bigger threat' ? _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:07:00 - [406] Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? Hehe. Ok, so if you're so sure you will win why don't you just get your ass back to bkg then and get this thing on ? Oh, I already know PA is gonna weazle out of this one... You see, they already win all the fleetbattles against us so they left the area to deal with 'bigger threats'. btw, anyone care to elaborate as to this 'bigger threat' ? _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Presidio	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:09:00 - [407] Edited by: Presidio on 25/08/2004 13:11:02 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? Hehe. Ok, so if you're so sure you will win why don't you just get your ass back to bkg then and get this thing on ? Oh, I already know PA is gonna weazle out of this one... You see, they already win all the fleetbattles against us so they left the area to deal with 'bigger threats'. btw, anyone care to elaborate as to this 'bigger threat' ? if I must! From last night Shortest fleet battle. edit: fixed the link. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Presidio	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:09:00 - [408] Edited by: Presidio on 25/08/2004 13:11:02 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? Hehe. Ok, so if you're so sure you will win why don't you just get your ass back to bkg then and get this thing on ? Oh, I already know PA is gonna weazle out of this one... You see, they already win all the fleetbattles against us so they left the area to deal with 'bigger threats'. btw, anyone care to elaborate as to this 'bigger threat' ? if I must! From last night Shortest fleet battle. edit: fixed the link. - "Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:10:00 - [409] Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 13:14:46 Originally by: Omniwar Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? SO you accept then, cool. Lets talk at what time this shall start on sunday after one week. Contact Shrike to arrange time and place for this fight. first of all: this is the OF! If we start to accept things here, we would also agree that - jade killed our whole fleet singlehanded - rkk repeadly podded the FE untill they all canceled their subscription - m0o is raising money from n00bies to continue their podding and stuff like this - scõry stuff I might add and btw: how many pilots on each side will fly for evolution? so, my vote goes for no deals with terrorists esp. if they dont like you... btw... a really good video! - g
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:10:00 - [410] Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 13:14:46 Originally by: Omniwar Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? SO you accept then, cool. Lets talk at what time this shall start on sunday after one week. Contact Shrike to arrange time and place for this fight. first of all: this is the OF! If we start to accept things here, we would also agree that - jade killed our whole fleet singlehanded - rkk repeadly podded the FE untill they all canceled their subscription - m0o is raising money from n00bies to continue their podding and stuff like this - scõry stuff I might add and btw: how many pilots on each side will fly for evolution? so, my vote goes for no deals with terrorists esp. if they dont like you... btw... a really good video! - g
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:12:00 - [411] Originally by: Riddari In a weeks time the last CASTOR patch will be applied to Tranquility. If it fixes lag somewhat (it should do in empire regarding criminal flagging!) then perhaps we should wait for that? I took part in one of the most awesome battles I know of, in YZ-LQL when m0o + friends sat above it and the FA forces warped in. It spanned over an hour I think and the lag wasn't unplayable, we could activate modules, shoot and what not! I'm waiting in hope that something like that can be repeated. That is why I wrote sunday after one week, that is the 5'th of September. And yeah that fight in YZ was the best fleet battles I have had the pleasure to take part in *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:12:00 - [412] Originally by: Riddari In a weeks time the last CASTOR patch will be applied to Tranquility. If it fixes lag somewhat (it should do in empire regarding criminal flagging!) then perhaps we should wait for that? I took part in one of the most awesome battles I know of, in YZ-LQL when m0o + friends sat above it and the FA forces warped in. It spanned over an hour I think and the lag wasn't unplayable, we could activate modules, shoot and what not! I'm waiting in hope that something like that can be repeated. That is why I wrote sunday after one week, that is the 5'th of September. And yeah that fight in YZ was the best fleet battles I have had the pleasure to take part in *Spawn of the Devil*
Sun Ra	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:15:00 - [413] LOL @ 200 vs 200 Pfft eve has probs with 30 vs 30 and the northern nodes dont seem to handle pvp well
Sun Ra	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:15:00 - [414] LOL @ 200 vs 200 Pfft eve has probs with 30 vs 30 and the northern nodes dont seem to handle pvp well
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:18:00 - [415] Originally by: Fuffel Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 13:14:46 Originally by: Omniwar Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? SO you accept then, cool. Lets talk at what time this shall start on sunday after one week. Contact Shrike to arrange time and place for this fight. first of all: this is the OF! If we start to accept things here, we would also agree that - jade killed our whole fleet singlehanded - rkk repeadly podded the FE untill they all canceled their subscription - m0o is raising money from n00bies to continue their podding and stuff like this - scõry stuff I might add and btw: how many pilots on each side will fly for evolution? so, my vote goes for no deals with terrorists esp. if they dont like you... btw... a really good video! You confuse me, you deny the challange now because we dont like you ? Or denying because you think you will loose ? Make up your mind please *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:18:00 - [416] Originally by: Fuffel Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 13:14:46 Originally by: Omniwar Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Majority of battles against NCA we won. So what's the point? SO you accept then, cool. Lets talk at what time this shall start on sunday after one week. Contact Shrike to arrange time and place for this fight. first of all: this is the OF! If we start to accept things here, we would also agree that - jade killed our whole fleet singlehanded - rkk repeadly podded the FE untill they all canceled their subscription - m0o is raising money from n00bies to continue their podding and stuff like this - scõry stuff I might add and btw: how many pilots on each side will fly for evolution? so, my vote goes for no deals with terrorists esp. if they dont like you... btw... a really good video! You confuse me, you deny the challange now because we dont like you ? Or denying because you think you will loose ? Make up your mind please *Spawn of the Devil*
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:24:00 - [417] Originally by: Omniwar You confuse me, you deny the challange now because we dont like you ? Or denying because you think you will loose ? Make up your mind please If the servers are up to it I am sure alot of players would love that. Atm I would favour a series of 10vs10/12vs12...kind of tournament style btw: have you even watched the video? - g
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:24:00 - [418] Originally by: Omniwar You confuse me, you deny the challange now because we dont like you ? Or denying because you think you will loose ? Make up your mind please If the servers are up to it I am sure alot of players would love that. Atm I would favour a series of 10vs10/12vs12...kind of tournament style btw: have you even watched the video? - g
Nilit	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:25:00 - [419] Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this ** Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying**
Nilit	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:25:00 - [420] Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this ** Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying**
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:30:00 - [421] Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Dude....you forgot your smiley to show you were being sarcastic, or are you just on a very trip? Maybe you haven't been playing eve and in London like your friend Artegg?
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:30:00 - [422] Originally by: Presidio We already know what would happend. Majority of fleet battles in BKG against m0o and Evolution, we won. Dude....you forgot your smiley to show you were being sarcastic, or are you just on a very trip? Maybe you haven't been playing eve and in London like your friend Artegg?
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:32:00 - [423] Originally by: Fuffel Originally by: Omniwar You confuse me, you deny the challange now because we dont like you ? Or denying because you think you will loose ? Make up your mind please If the servers are up to it I am sure alot of players would love that. Atm I would favour a series of 10vs10/12vs12...kind of tournament style btw: have you even watched the video? OMFG?? Are you serious? You would fight us 10v10 or 12v12?? I would be up for that too!! can we accept that challenge?
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:32:00 - [424] Originally by: Fuffel Originally by: Omniwar You confuse me, you deny the challange now because we dont like you ? Or denying because you think you will loose ? Make up your mind please If the servers are up to it I am sure alot of players would love that. Atm I would favour a series of 10vs10/12vs12...kind of tournament style btw: have you even watched the video? OMFG?? Are you serious? You would fight us 10v10 or 12v12?? I would be up for that too!! can we accept that challenge?
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:33:00 - [425] Leafo, just watched The Phoenix video. While very professional it also distorts the truth, the motives, the reasons. Well it is a propoganda film so it's acceptable... however... propoganda is always met with hostility because propoganda does not care for facts, it does not care for truth. So a propoganda film WILL be torn apart, I just ran out of space to tear it apart, statement by statement. ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:33:00 - [426] Leafo, just watched The Phoenix video. While very professional it also distorts the truth, the motives, the reasons. Well it is a propoganda film so it's acceptable... however... propoganda is always met with hostility because propoganda does not care for facts, it does not care for truth. So a propoganda film WILL be torn apart, I just ran out of space to tear it apart, statement by statement. ¼©¼ a history
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:33:00 - [427] Originally by: Nilit Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this **** Oh yes you are. Anyway, it goes down after page 9. It's all PA weazling out of the challenge they brought on us after that. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:33:00 - [428] Originally by: Nilit Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this **** Oh yes you are. Anyway, it goes down after page 9. It's all PA weazling out of the challenge they brought on us after that. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:36:00 - [429] Originally by: Fuffel Originally by: Omniwar You confuse me, you deny the challange now because we dont like you ? Or denying because you think you will loose ? Make up your mind please If the servers are up to it I am sure alot of players would love that. Atm I would favour a series of 10vs10/12vs12...kind of tournament style btw: have you even watched the video? So now you accept ? Man you make me dizzy so make up your mind man I downloaded the video and saw frigates being killed, some nice battle that showed your superiority and I dont even know who were there in that fight. *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:36:00 - [430] Originally by: Fuffel Originally by: Omniwar You confuse me, you deny the challange now because we dont like you ? Or denying because you think you will loose ? Make up your mind please If the servers are up to it I am sure alot of players would love that. Atm I would favour a series of 10vs10/12vs12...kind of tournament style btw: have you even watched the video? So now you accept ? Man you make me dizzy so make up your mind man I downloaded the video and saw frigates being killed, some nice battle that showed your superiority and I dont even know who were there in that fight. *Spawn of the Devil*
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:37:00 - [431] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Nilit Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this **** Oh yes you are. Anyway, it goes down after page 9. It's all PA weazling out of the challenge they brought on us after that. think it was Jade who started this..."I proof my intellectual superiority by using that big bone on your n00bie head" stuff - g
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:37:00 - [432] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Nilit Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this **** Oh yes you are. Anyway, it goes down after page 9. It's all PA weazling out of the challenge they brought on us after that. think it was Jade who started this..."I proof my intellectual superiority by using that big bone on your n00bie head" stuff - g
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:41:00 - [433] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Nilit Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this **** Oh yes you are. Anyway, it goes down after page 9. It's all PA weazling out of the challenge they brought on us after that. Well i hate to point it out but the challenge was made to the NCA and as one of the JF members kindly pointed out you are not NCA but in true Evol and m0o style you guys want/need the attention so you all started screaming look at me look at me i will fight you beating your chests like apes.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:41:00 - [434] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Nilit Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this **** Oh yes you are. Anyway, it goes down after page 9. It's all PA weazling out of the challenge they brought on us after that. Well i hate to point it out but the challenge was made to the NCA and as one of the JF members kindly pointed out you are not NCA but in true Evol and m0o style you guys want/need the attention so you all started screaming look at me look at me i will fight you beating your chests like apes.
Asmodea Lorion	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:48:00 - [435] This might be a bit late but here goes... Here, here! Long Live PA!!
Asmodea Lorion	Posted - 2004.08.25 13:48:00 - [436] This might be a bit late but here goes... Here, here! Long Live PA!!
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 14:01:00 - [437] Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 14:25:58 Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 14:21:33 Originally by: Val Duane OMFG?? Are you serious? You would fight us 10v10 or 12v12?? I would be up for that too!! can we accept that challenge? what a great video edit: to add some content - g
Fuffel	Posted - 2004.08.25 14:01:00 - [438] Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 14:25:58 Edited by: Fuffel on 25/08/2004 14:21:33 Originally by: Val Duane OMFG?? Are you serious? You would fight us 10v10 or 12v12?? I would be up for that too!! can we accept that challenge? what a great video edit: to add some content - g
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 14:03:00 - [439] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Nilit Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this **** Oh yes you are. Anyway, it goes down after page 9. It's all PA weazling out of the challenge they brought on us after that. Well i hate to point it out but the challenge was made to the NCA and as one of the JF members kindly pointed out you are not NCA but in true Evol and m0o style you guys want/need the attention so you all started screaming look at me look at me i will fight you beating your chests like apes. Aaah, so we did get it right the first time ! You challenged NCA MINUS evol/RKK/m0o. Now why would you do that seeing your own people keep repeating they win most fleet battles against us anyway ? Oh wait ! Might there be a need to take that statement with a grain of salt the size of jupiter ? Might it be so that the mighty PA actually is getting sent down from BKG to cower in empire or tribute by these people and might it be so that that is the reason you invited NCA MINUS Evol/RKK/m0o for a battle ? Look, we know just as well as the rest of Eve you are never going to accept a direct challenge by m0o evol or RKK for an even fight. All we wanted is to invite you to make that clear once again. You did. I'm outta here _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 14:03:00 - [440] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Nilit Im so not gonna bother reading 11 pages of this **** Oh yes you are. Anyway, it goes down after page 9. It's all PA weazling out of the challenge they brought on us after that. Well i hate to point it out but the challenge was made to the NCA and as one of the JF members kindly pointed out you are not NCA but in true Evol and m0o style you guys want/need the attention so you all started screaming look at me look at me i will fight you beating your chests like apes. Aaah, so we did get it right the first time ! You challenged NCA MINUS evol/RKK/m0o. Now why would you do that seeing your own people keep repeating they win most fleet battles against us anyway ? Oh wait ! Might there be a need to take that statement with a grain of salt the size of jupiter ? Might it be so that the mighty PA actually is getting sent down from BKG to cower in empire or tribute by these people and might it be so that that is the reason you invited NCA MINUS Evol/RKK/m0o for a battle ? Look, we know just as well as the rest of Eve you are never going to accept a direct challenge by m0o evol or RKK for an even fight. All we wanted is to invite you to make that clear once again. You did. I'm outta here _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 14:23:00 - [441] Originally by: Rod Blaine Aaah, so we did get it right the first time ! You challenged NCA MINUS evol/RKK/m0o. Now why would you do that seeing your own people keep repeating they win most fleet battles against us anyway ? Oh wait ! Might there be a need to take that statement with a grain of salt the size of jupiter ? Might it be so that the mighty PA actually is getting sent down from BKG to cower in empire or tribute by these people and might it be so that that is the reason you invited NCA MINUS Evol/RKK/m0o for a battle ? Look, we know just as well as the rest of Eve you are never going to accept a direct challenge by m0o evol or RKK for an even fight. All we wanted is to invite you to make that clear once again. You did. I'm outta here You are wrong again i never challenged anyone to a fight. the person who did make the challange might have been under the impression that you are part of NCA after all you are in one post then your not etc and as he was having a discussion with Jade he decided to challange Jade and the entity of the NCA that is based around PB and like i said the challange was made to NCA not you guys but that was not good enough you started to feel unloved so as i said you all started to jump around like apes going i will fight you i will fight you
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 14:23:00 - [442] Originally by: Rod Blaine Aaah, so we did get it right the first time ! You challenged NCA MINUS evol/RKK/m0o. Now why would you do that seeing your own people keep repeating they win most fleet battles against us anyway ? Oh wait ! Might there be a need to take that statement with a grain of salt the size of jupiter ? Might it be so that the mighty PA actually is getting sent down from BKG to cower in empire or tribute by these people and might it be so that that is the reason you invited NCA MINUS Evol/RKK/m0o for a battle ? Look, we know just as well as the rest of Eve you are never going to accept a direct challenge by m0o evol or RKK for an even fight. All we wanted is to invite you to make that clear once again. You did. I'm outta here You are wrong again i never challenged anyone to a fight. the person who did make the challange might have been under the impression that you are part of NCA after all you are in one post then your not etc and as he was having a discussion with Jade he decided to challange Jade and the entity of the NCA that is based around PB and like i said the challange was made to NCA not you guys but that was not good enough you started to feel unloved so as i said you all started to jump around like apes going i will fight you i will fight you
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.08.25 14:56:00 - [443] Originally by: Sun Ra LOL @ 200 vs 200 Pfft eve has probs with 30 vs 30 and the northern nodes dont seem to handle pvp well This is a good summary of the discussion underway in the council regarding this "challenge". It's still being discussed, mind you, but my initial read is that it's being panned as an idea. I suspect the notion of smaller gang challenges would make more sense from a technical perspective, but would need to be somewhat structured to avoid the problem we've had of the numberous spies in BKG interfering with PA gangs. Possibly individual PA corps might put together small gangs of trusted members to do these smaller challenge fights you guys are talking about. I know some of them seem interesting. But as for the titanic, planned, 200 vs. 200 battles, neither the server strength nor the trust is there IMHO. BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.08.25 14:56:00 - [444] Originally by: Sun Ra LOL @ 200 vs 200 Pfft eve has probs with 30 vs 30 and the northern nodes dont seem to handle pvp well This is a good summary of the discussion underway in the council regarding this "challenge". It's still being discussed, mind you, but my initial read is that it's being panned as an idea. I suspect the notion of smaller gang challenges would make more sense from a technical perspective, but would need to be somewhat structured to avoid the problem we've had of the numberous spies in BKG interfering with PA gangs. Possibly individual PA corps might put together small gangs of trusted members to do these smaller challenge fights you guys are talking about. I know some of them seem interesting. But as for the titanic, planned, 200 vs. 200 battles, neither the server strength nor the trust is there IMHO. BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:04:00 - [445] You gotta admit that 200v200 would be epical =) -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:04:00 - [446] You gotta admit that 200v200 would be epical =) -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:08:00 - [447] Everybody scrambles as many ships as they see fit. A planet/moon is decided. Teams wait on different sides of it (so the planet/moon is between them). When the order is given BOTH teams initiate warp to it, so the long range gunners can warp to 40km point and the close range murderers can warp in at 15km point. Both teams should arrive somewhat same time, this can be observed with a neutral (Polaris? EVE Guardian?) who watches the planet/moon. ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:08:00 - [448] Everybody scrambles as many ships as they see fit. A planet/moon is decided. Teams wait on different sides of it (so the planet/moon is between them). When the order is given BOTH teams initiate warp to it, so the long range gunners can warp to 40km point and the close range murderers can warp in at 15km point. Both teams should arrive somewhat same time, this can be observed with a neutral (Polaris? EVE Guardian?) who watches the planet/moon. ¼©¼ a history
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:10:00 - [449] How about this? Both sides pick their thirty best pilots to travel to a neutral system in Pureblind and hold at staging points. A neutral and respected master of ceremonies records the names on both sides and randomly pulls a pair of enemies out of a hat to begin the fighting. These two pilots must then fight at a moon with a floating secure can beacon marking a centre ground. Both pilots are free to pick a warp in at 15-60 (the beacon is at thirty) (attendent camera-drone cloaked frigates from both sides may record the contest) All equipment is valid and no exit is allowed. Warping out or moving further than 100klicks from the beacon counts as defaulting and defeat. If the fight takes longer than 10 mins then its a draw and both ships are technically "destroyed" for the purposes of the contest. When one ship is destroyed its side will have a randomly selected replacement drawn from the hat by the master of ceremonies and battle begins again. This would in effect be "winner stays on" with warships and full violence. Obviously the side that runs out of battleships first is the loser. How does that sound? Just think of the spectacle and the movie. And those pilots that win contests will be famous ;) JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:10:00 - [450] How about this? Both sides pick their thirty best pilots to travel to a neutral system in Pureblind and hold at staging points. A neutral and respected master of ceremonies records the names on both sides and randomly pulls a pair of enemies out of a hat to begin the fighting. These two pilots must then fight at a moon with a floating secure can beacon marking a centre ground. Both pilots are free to pick a warp in at 15-60 (the beacon is at thirty) (attendent camera-drone cloaked frigates from both sides may record the contest) All equipment is valid and no exit is allowed. Warping out or moving further than 100klicks from the beacon counts as defaulting and defeat. If the fight takes longer than 10 mins then its a draw and both ships are technically "destroyed" for the purposes of the contest. When one ship is destroyed its side will have a randomly selected replacement drawn from the hat by the master of ceremonies and battle begins again. This would in effect be "winner stays on" with warships and full violence. Obviously the side that runs out of battleships first is the loser. How does that sound? Just think of the spectacle and the movie. And those pilots that win contests will be famous ;) JF Public Forum
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:22:00 - [451] Jade. That is a sound and interesting idea, but we have 2 problems here. 1. Trust 2. Trust 1. We know you have spies in the PA. As such it would be nigh on impossible to believe that this would be a fair fight in any way. We both know that whilst the PA isnt largely PvP pilots as such, its cream are a match for the top brass in Evol/Moo, and as such stand as gooda chance of winning as of losing, which brings us nicely onto point 2. 2. which is trust that you guys would honour your word, and leave Tenal/Branch as a result of losing that battle and declare the war over vs the PA. (of course tis trust is held vice versa) i personally would LOVE to see amove of settling aging wars this way, but what would there be to enforce the withdrawal of the vanquished? Its a beautifully romantic idea, and in older days gone past, was how many wars were settled, gladiator vs gladiator, elite vs elite, victor takes all. But I am afraid that the issue of trust is one too large to ignore, probably if we are honest, for both sides. That said, would be stuff legends are made of ;) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:22:00 - [452] Jade. That is a sound and interesting idea, but we have 2 problems here. 1. Trust 2. Trust 1. We know you have spies in the PA. As such it would be nigh on impossible to believe that this would be a fair fight in any way. We both know that whilst the PA isnt largely PvP pilots as such, its cream are a match for the top brass in Evol/Moo, and as such stand as gooda chance of winning as of losing, which brings us nicely onto point 2. 2. which is trust that you guys would honour your word, and leave Tenal/Branch as a result of losing that battle and declare the war over vs the PA. (of course tis trust is held vice versa) i personally would LOVE to see amove of settling aging wars this way, but what would there be to enforce the withdrawal of the vanquished? Its a beautifully romantic idea, and in older days gone past, was how many wars were settled, gladiator vs gladiator, elite vs elite, victor takes all. But I am afraid that the issue of trust is one too large to ignore, probably if we are honest, for both sides. That said, would be stuff legends are made of ;) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:24:00 - [453] Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 25/08/2004 15:30:48 Originally by: Luc Boye You gotta admit that 200v200 would be epical =) With proper system operations, it would be brilliant. In fact, with proper server/client relations, 50/50 would be a lot of fun too (even those I've found unpleasant due to lag, regardless of whether is was a win or a lose). CCP, can we have some kind of tournament system with a ton of server resources? Please? Edit: A reff-ing set-up for that tournament system too please! BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:24:00 - [454] Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 25/08/2004 15:30:48 Originally by: Luc Boye You gotta admit that 200v200 would be epical =) With proper system operations, it would be brilliant. In fact, with proper server/client relations, 50/50 would be a lot of fun too (even those I've found unpleasant due to lag, regardless of whether is was a win or a lose). CCP, can we have some kind of tournament system with a ton of server resources? Please? Edit: A reff-ing set-up for that tournament system too please! BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:29:00 - [455] Originally by: KIAEddZ 2. which is trust that you guys would honour your word, and leave Tenal/Branch as a result of losing that battle and declare the war over vs the PA. (of course tis trust is held vice versa) As I understood it, the challenge was thrown for you guys to back it up. No surrender of Tenal/Branch is an option, since we already have it. If you don't agree, well, bring it on. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:29:00 - [456] Originally by: KIAEddZ 2. which is trust that you guys would honour your word, and leave Tenal/Branch as a result of losing that battle and declare the war over vs the PA. (of course tis trust is held vice versa) As I understood it, the challenge was thrown for you guys to back it up. No surrender of Tenal/Branch is an option, since we already have it. If you don't agree, well, bring it on. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:30:00 - [457] Whoa EddZ ... I don't think anyone mentioned the stakes hun. Its hardly reasonable to play for Tenal and Branch when you guys have already ceded them territorially. Realistically this tournament style engagement would be for the pure joy of combat and boasting rights to see which side has the best single combat pilots. Which brings me onto the trust issue. I'm not sure how that format could be compromised by the spies either side have. Ultimately only each pilot knows their loadout and since we have a neutral arbiter watching the combat zone (and two camera ships) its just not possible to cheat. No limitations, no rules other than those stated. What is the vulnerability? JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:30:00 - [458] Whoa EddZ ... I don't think anyone mentioned the stakes hun. Its hardly reasonable to play for Tenal and Branch when you guys have already ceded them territorially. Realistically this tournament style engagement would be for the pure joy of combat and boasting rights to see which side has the best single combat pilots. Which brings me onto the trust issue. I'm not sure how that format could be compromised by the spies either side have. Ultimately only each pilot knows their loadout and since we have a neutral arbiter watching the combat zone (and two camera ships) its just not possible to cheat. No limitations, no rules other than those stated. What is the vulnerability? JF Public Forum
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:34:00 - [459] Originally by: Luc Boye Originally by: KIAEddZ 2. which is trust that you guys would honour your word, and leave Tenal/Branch as a result of losing that battle and declare the war over vs the PA. (of course tis trust is held vice versa) As I understood it, the challenge was thrown for you guys to back it up. No surrender of Tenal/Branch is an option, since we already have it. If you don't agree, well, bring it on. See, this is kinda the point. There's no common ground or agreement on much of anything within anti-PA forces (aside from the obvious), so negotiating anything is kinda pointless. BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:34:00 - [460] Originally by: Luc Boye Originally by: KIAEddZ 2. which is trust that you guys would honour your word, and leave Tenal/Branch as a result of losing that battle and declare the war over vs the PA. (of course tis trust is held vice versa) As I understood it, the challenge was thrown for you guys to back it up. No surrender of Tenal/Branch is an option, since we already have it. If you don't agree, well, bring it on. See, this is kinda the point. There's no common ground or agreement on much of anything within anti-PA forces (aside from the obvious), so negotiating anything is kinda pointless. BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Estarriol	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:44:00 - [461] Originally by: Bobby Wilson See, this is kinda the point. There's no common ground or agreement on much of anything within anti-PA forces (aside from the obvious), so negotiating anything is kinda pointless. The real point is, PA come in here and lay down challenges, then are unable to back them up. Reasons being some combination of the following: 1. We can't trust you because you use spies. 2. We have to wait on our council to discuss the issue, we weren't actually speaking for the PA. 3. We already own you in combat, we don't need to prove it again. 4. We only fight when the terms are that either: a. We win and get back what we already lost, or b. You win and we leave the place we already left. 5. We would fight you, but I'm in London without a PC taking a shower. PA > OH OOPS DID SOMEONE DROP A GAUNTLET? NOT US. LOOK - IT DOESN'T EVEN FIT!
Estarriol	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:44:00 - [462] Originally by: Bobby Wilson See, this is kinda the point. There's no common ground or agreement on much of anything within anti-PA forces (aside from the obvious), so negotiating anything is kinda pointless. The real point is, PA come in here and lay down challenges, then are unable to back them up. Reasons being some combination of the following: 1. We can't trust you because you use spies. 2. We have to wait on our council to discuss the issue, we weren't actually speaking for the PA. 3. We already own you in combat, we don't need to prove it again. 4. We only fight when the terms are that either: a. We win and get back what we already lost, or b. You win and we leave the place we already left. 5. We would fight you, but I'm in London without a PC taking a shower. PA > OH OOPS DID SOMEONE DROP A GAUNTLET? NOT US. LOOK - IT DOESN'T EVEN FIT!
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:44:00 - [463] We have no idea how high up your spies are in the PA, or in fact who they are (well not "much of an idea", of course the same is vice versa. As such we could never be sure that the tactics worked on would be totally secure. And I would only be able to committ my support to this, if it had value, for the sake of it, jsut doeasnt cut it with me. As for conceding the area, thats just a difference of opinion, we both know that. As far as I am concerned, Tenal and Branch will be under our full control again when we decide that that tactical move is the most important one (I know you disagree, but hey ho, thats war;) ) The PA council have a plan, R-K are committed to them 100% This war looks ike never ending, AND purely from a PERSONAL pov, i see far more worthy targets than SOME of the people I am facing day in day out. Maybe this idea of a Gladiator shoot out to decide the victor and the taker of the spoils (terms), will fit better into the scheme of things later in time. Either way, I see it as a beautiful concept, would just simply be a great day for Eve. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:44:00 - [464] We have no idea how high up your spies are in the PA, or in fact who they are (well not "much of an idea", of course the same is vice versa. As such we could never be sure that the tactics worked on would be totally secure. And I would only be able to committ my support to this, if it had value, for the sake of it, jsut doeasnt cut it with me. As for conceding the area, thats just a difference of opinion, we both know that. As far as I am concerned, Tenal and Branch will be under our full control again when we decide that that tactical move is the most important one (I know you disagree, but hey ho, thats war;) ) The PA council have a plan, R-K are committed to them 100% This war looks ike never ending, AND purely from a PERSONAL pov, i see far more worthy targets than SOME of the people I am facing day in day out. Maybe this idea of a Gladiator shoot out to decide the victor and the taker of the spoils (terms), will fit better into the scheme of things later in time. Either way, I see it as a beautiful concept, would just simply be a great day for Eve. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:45:00 - [465] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 24/08/2004 22:13:17 Originally by: Halseth 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code. ...and the couple of RONA-Kia spies that have been in BNC and on our teamspeak is what exactly? For goodness sake Halseth spouting all that vitriolic rant when your own elite pvp corp has been doing the same just makes you look daft. Ummm we dont hve spys in your corp and never had lol, really? You are either telling fibs or are remarkably uninformed. Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:45:00 - [466] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 24/08/2004 22:13:17 Originally by: Halseth 2 days ago I had respect for what you guys had accomplished in BKG and I even included it into the press release this thread is based upon. Today any respect I had for EVOL/RKK/m0o abilities in space is GONE. My condolences to the fighters from your side that thought it was their skill in space because it turned out to just be a tactical advantage that we find too un-ethical to use. In the world of eve fleet battles, it's like using a cheat-code. ...and the couple of RONA-Kia spies that have been in BNC and on our teamspeak is what exactly? For goodness sake Halseth spouting all that vitriolic rant when your own elite pvp corp has been doing the same just makes you look daft. Ummm we dont hve spys in your corp and never had lol, really? You are either telling fibs or are remarkably uninformed. Eve Blacklight Style
DraizeTraiN	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:52:00 - [467] Originally by: KIAEddZ 2. which is trust that you guys would honour your word, and leave Tenal/Branch as a result of losing that battle and declare the war over vs the PA. (of course tis trust is held vice versa) What `word' is that Eddz? The `word' you've simply made up in your head? From what I can see only 2 posts in this entire thread mention this `winner takes all' rubbish...and they're both from you. I saw your name on a loaf of bread the other day...but I was mistaken. On closer inspection it said `Thick Cut'. `I build myself a brave asylum and ask of a madman to play host'
DraizeTraiN	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:52:00 - [468] Originally by: KIAEddZ 2. which is trust that you guys would honour your word, and leave Tenal/Branch as a result of losing that battle and declare the war over vs the PA. (of course tis trust is held vice versa) What `word' is that Eddz? The `word' you've simply made up in your head? From what I can see only 2 posts in this entire thread mention this `winner takes all' rubbish...and they're both from you. I saw your name on a loaf of bread the other day...but I was mistaken. On closer inspection it said `Thick Cut'. `I build myself a brave asylum and ask of a madman to play host'
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:58:00 - [469] My apologies Draize. I did indeed misunderstand. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.25 15:58:00 - [470] My apologies Draize. I did indeed misunderstand. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Zensunni DX	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:00:00 - [471] Wow, LOL. I envy the life you're leading, Rod Blaine. All hung out in your chair in front of the screen, desperately refreshing the forums once every 5 mins(or less!) looking for a new thread or post to troll or twist or just post whatever mindless ****, so that you can feel you've "wtfpwned" people on an online forum pertinent to an online game, so you can have bragging rights to your buddies --> "hey guys i wtfpwned <insert name here> somebody on an online forum last night! i'm so cool, huh?". Wow. That's such an interesting and fun life, you know? Didn't know there were such cool people with such interesting lives over here Actually, your post was pretty funny, just like how Bagahad Bob's commentaries always are. I'm very sure you have the moral high ground, that you speak nothing but the truth(Bill Clinton, anyone?), and everything else is propaganda. Yeah man! I'm so sorry that I lead such a dull and uninteresting life that I can't hang out in online forums all night(day) long writing funny stories or imaginary experiences to entertain the masses. Oh no, we common folks have work to do and families/friends to attend to. BTW, didn't I said something about people extrapolating a whole load of stuff from a single sentence said in my initial post? Yeah I'm sure I did.... what a coincidence I'll check the forums again tomorrow.... so keep up the good work eh Rod? We're desperately waiting for another class act from you, sure helps with the daily dose of laughter recommended by good doctors everywhere! Ciao! ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are
Zensunni DX	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:00:00 - [472] Wow, LOL. I envy the life you're leading, Rod Blaine. All hung out in your chair in front of the screen, desperately refreshing the forums once every 5 mins(or less!) looking for a new thread or post to troll or twist or just post whatever mindless ****, so that you can feel you've "wtfpwned" people on an online forum pertinent to an online game, so you can have bragging rights to your buddies --> "hey guys i wtfpwned <insert name here> somebody on an online forum last night! i'm so cool, huh?". Wow. That's such an interesting and fun life, you know? Didn't know there were such cool people with such interesting lives over here Actually, your post was pretty funny, just like how Bagahad Bob's commentaries always are. I'm very sure you have the moral high ground, that you speak nothing but the truth(Bill Clinton, anyone?), and everything else is propaganda. Yeah man! I'm so sorry that I lead such a dull and uninteresting life that I can't hang out in online forums all night(day) long writing funny stories or imaginary experiences to entertain the masses. Oh no, we common folks have work to do and families/friends to attend to. BTW, didn't I said something about people extrapolating a whole load of stuff from a single sentence said in my initial post? Yeah I'm sure I did.... what a coincidence I'll check the forums again tomorrow.... so keep up the good work eh Rod? We're desperately waiting for another class act from you, sure helps with the daily dose of laughter recommended by good doctors everywhere! Ciao! ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 - [473] Originally by: Blacklight lol, really? You are either telling fibs or are remarkably uninformed. Care to give me a name here?
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 - [474] Originally by: Blacklight lol, really? You are either telling fibs or are remarkably uninformed. Care to give me a name here?
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:17:00 - [475] Edited by: Artegg on 25/08/2004 16:20:10 Originally by: Estarriol Originally by: Bobby Wilson See, this is kinda the point. There's no common ground or agreement on much of anything within anti-PA forces (aside from the obvious), so negotiating anything is kinda pointless. The real point is, PA come in here and lay down challenges, then are unable to back them up. Reasons being some combination of the following: 1. We can't trust you because you use spies. 2. We have to wait on our council to discuss the issue, we weren't actually speaking for the PA. 3. We already own you in combat, we don't need to prove it again. 4. We only fight when the terms are that either: a. We win and get back what we already lost, or b. You win and we leave the place we already left. 5. We would fight you, but I'm in London without a PC taking a shower. PA > OH OOPS DID SOMEONE DROP A GAUNTLET? NOT US. LOOK - IT DOESN'T EVEN FIT! HMMM again you are getting confused. You see a PA member laid the challenge down to the NCA which according to the JF member who posted here you are not part of. That challenge was then countered by Jade saying lets have a 1 on 1 Then the Evol/m0o monkeys start going me fight me kill i challenge you so you see in fact we made a challenge it was not accepted it was countered and that was not accepted so between the relevant parties involved everything is even.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:17:00 - [476] Edited by: Artegg on 25/08/2004 16:20:10 Originally by: Estarriol Originally by: Bobby Wilson See, this is kinda the point. There's no common ground or agreement on much of anything within anti-PA forces (aside from the obvious), so negotiating anything is kinda pointless. The real point is, PA come in here and lay down challenges, then are unable to back them up. Reasons being some combination of the following: 1. We can't trust you because you use spies. 2. We have to wait on our council to discuss the issue, we weren't actually speaking for the PA. 3. We already own you in combat, we don't need to prove it again. 4. We only fight when the terms are that either: a. We win and get back what we already lost, or b. You win and we leave the place we already left. 5. We would fight you, but I'm in London without a PC taking a shower. PA > OH OOPS DID SOMEONE DROP A GAUNTLET? NOT US. LOOK - IT DOESN'T EVEN FIT! HMMM again you are getting confused. You see a PA member laid the challenge down to the NCA which according to the JF member who posted here you are not part of. That challenge was then countered by Jade saying lets have a 1 on 1 Then the Evol/m0o monkeys start going me fight me kill i challenge you so you see in fact we made a challenge it was not accepted it was countered and that was not accepted so between the relevant parties involved everything is even.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:19:00 - [477] Wow Zensunni DX ... I am impressed. If your posting was a diet food you'd be rich my dear, its almost entirely substance free! JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:19:00 - [478] Wow Zensunni DX ... I am impressed. If your posting was a diet food you'd be rich my dear, its almost entirely substance free! JF Public Forum
Zarks	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:34:00 - [479] When we decide to leave we leave, when we decide to return we do that. NCA or evol/moo have no control over Bladerunners or any other corporation in PA and never will have. Venal/tenal/branch will never be your territory no matter what you say or even do on these forums/ingame.
Zarks	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:34:00 - [480] When we decide to leave we leave, when we decide to return we do that. NCA or evol/moo have no control over Bladerunners or any other corporation in PA and never will have. Venal/tenal/branch will never be your territory no matter what you say or even do on these forums/ingame.
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:37:00 - [481] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Blacklight lol, really? You are either telling fibs or are remarkably uninformed. Care to give me a name here? Not on the forums mate, we can have a chat about it in game some time. I wouldn't say it was so if I didn't believe it though. Talk to you later. Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:37:00 - [482] Originally by: Artegg Originally by: Blacklight lol, really? You are either telling fibs or are remarkably uninformed. Care to give me a name here? Not on the forums mate, we can have a chat about it in game some time. I wouldn't say it was so if I didn't believe it though. Talk to you later. Eve Blacklight Style
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:41:00 - [483] Artegg, you get it wrong entirely. Yes, you challenged NCA. However, you're at war with RKK, m0o and evol aswell. Running away to NCA and thinking you got rid of us isn't the idea of war. If you don't like us in your space, give it up and go to empire, and fight NCA from there over something you couldn't defend in the first place. And i'm not talking about just space here. Also, thanks for giving branch, tenal and venal to us. Afterall, you'll be in NCA space, right? Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:41:00 - [484] Artegg, you get it wrong entirely. Yes, you challenged NCA. However, you're at war with RKK, m0o and evol aswell. Running away to NCA and thinking you got rid of us isn't the idea of war. If you don't like us in your space, give it up and go to empire, and fight NCA from there over something you couldn't defend in the first place. And i'm not talking about just space here. Also, thanks for giving branch, tenal and venal to us. Afterall, you'll be in NCA space, right? Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:42:00 - [485] Edited by: Notferr on 25/08/2004 16:54:38 à. Breaking newsà.. Recap of last few pages: Artegg: We want to fight everyone in a big fleet battle Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Blacklight: When and where? Artegg: Don't have the time right now. Moving, washing hair, polishing nails, Jonny is coming by to take me to dinner. He even brought me flowers! How cute! I lub you snookums! Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: Busy getting evening gown pressed. Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: You are wrong again i never challenged anyone to a fight. More at 11. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:42:00 - [486] Edited by: Notferr on 25/08/2004 16:54:38 à. Breaking newsà.. Recap of last few pages: Artegg: We want to fight everyone in a big fleet battle Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Blacklight: When and where? Artegg: Don't have the time right now. Moving, washing hair, polishing nails, Jonny is coming by to take me to dinner. He even brought me flowers! How cute! I lub you snookums! Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: Busy getting evening gown pressed. Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: You are wrong again i never challenged anyone to a fight. More at 11. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Fragm	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:43:00 - [487] Nice vid i gotta say i see far more pa about fade and cod space than FU or COD pilots maybe the up and coming week may teach some people that ignoring the small things that have been going on in the north was not the best thing to do watch this space! muhaaaaa Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Fragm	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:43:00 - [488] Nice vid i gotta say i see far more pa about fade and cod space than FU or COD pilots maybe the up and coming week may teach some people that ignoring the small things that have been going on in the north was not the best thing to do watch this space! muhaaaaa Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:43:00 - [489] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 16:46:40 Originally by: Zensunni DX Wow, LOL. I envy the life you're leading, Rod Blaine. All hung out in your chair in front of the screen, desperately refreshing the forums once every 5 mins(or less!) looking for a new thread or post to troll or twist or just post whatever mindless **, so that you can feel you've "wtfpwned" people on an online forum pertinent to an online game, so you can have bragging rights to your buddies --> "hey guys i wtfpwned <insert name here> somebody on an online forum last night! i'm so cool, huh?". Wow. That's such an interesting and fun life, you know? Didn't know there were such cool people with such interesting lives over here No need to get personal man. But since you ask, this is not why I post, nor is it an accurate description of my life or my person. You undoubtedly knew that when posting, making this an over the top attempt at flaming me. It's not needed nor warranted since I did not attack you personally myself. I wonder who is the loser here now ? Quote: Actually, your post was pretty funny, just like how Bagahad Bob's commentaries always are. I'm very sure you have the moral high ground, that you speak nothing but the truth(Bill Clinton, anyone?), and everything else is propaganda. Yeah man! Better, but entirely there yet. Actually, my post was just as much propaganda as yours. The difference being I use humour in it, where you seem to favour flaming. Quote: I'm so sorry that I lead such a dull and uninteresting life that I can't hang out in online forums all night(day) long writing funny stories or imaginary experiences to entertain the masses. Oh no, we common folks have work to do and families/friends to attend to. I work, I have family and friends. And I am certainly more forum active then you are. Doesn't mean your life is dull or mine is since judging that from a single post is bordering on magic. Quote: BTW, didn't I said something about people extrapolating a whole load of stuff from a single sentence said in my initial post? Yeah I'm sure I did.... what a coincidence Attempt at retort = good Quote: I'll check the forums again tomorrow.... so keep up the good work eh Rod? We're desperately waiting for another class act from you, sure helps with the daily dose of laughter recommended by good doctors everywhere! I certainly hope so, because the reason why I post here is to help, entertain and voice opinions. I would hope that that is a two-way thing. Quote:** Ciao! Same. //end seriousness, take everything hereafter as semi-IC plz// _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:43:00 - [490] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 16:46:40 Originally by: Zensunni DX Wow, LOL. I envy the life you're leading, Rod Blaine. All hung out in your chair in front of the screen, desperately refreshing the forums once every 5 mins(or less!) looking for a new thread or post to troll or twist or just post whatever mindless **, so that you can feel you've "wtfpwned" people on an online forum pertinent to an online game, so you can have bragging rights to your buddies --> "hey guys i wtfpwned <insert name here> somebody on an online forum last night! i'm so cool, huh?". Wow. That's such an interesting and fun life, you know? Didn't know there were such cool people with such interesting lives over here No need to get personal man. But since you ask, this is not why I post, nor is it an accurate description of my life or my person. You undoubtedly knew that when posting, making this an over the top attempt at flaming me. It's not needed nor warranted since I did not attack you personally myself. I wonder who is the loser here now ? Quote: Actually, your post was pretty funny, just like how Bagahad Bob's commentaries always are. I'm very sure you have the moral high ground, that you speak nothing but the truth(Bill Clinton, anyone?), and everything else is propaganda. Yeah man! Better, but entirely there yet. Actually, my post was just as much propaganda as yours. The difference being I use humour in it, where you seem to favour flaming. Quote: I'm so sorry that I lead such a dull and uninteresting life that I can't hang out in online forums all night(day) long writing funny stories or imaginary experiences to entertain the masses. Oh no, we common folks have work to do and families/friends to attend to. I work, I have family and friends. And I am certainly more forum active then you are. Doesn't mean your life is dull or mine is since judging that from a single post is bordering on magic. Quote: BTW, didn't I said something about people extrapolating a whole load of stuff from a single sentence said in my initial post? Yeah I'm sure I did.... what a coincidence Attempt at retort = good Quote: I'll check the forums again tomorrow.... so keep up the good work eh Rod? We're desperately waiting for another class act from you, sure helps with the daily dose of laughter recommended by good doctors everywhere! I certainly hope so, because the reason why I post here is to help, entertain and voice opinions. I would hope that that is a two-way thing. Quote:** Ciao! Same. //end seriousness, take everything hereafter as semi-IC plz// _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Fragm	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:50:00 - [491] OMG off she goes again this BIT never stfu does she? Originally by:** Reiisha Artegg, you get it wrong entirely. Yes, you challenged NCA. However, you're at war with RKK, m0o and evol aswell. Running away to NCA and thinking you got rid of us isn't the idea of war. If you don't like us in your space, give it up and go to empire, and fight NCA from there over something you couldn't defend in the first place. And i'm not talking about just space here. Also, thanks for giving branch, tenal and venal to us. Afterall, you'll be in NCA space, right? Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Fragm	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:50:00 - [492] OMG off she goes again this BIT never stfu does she? Originally by:** Reiisha Artegg, you get it wrong entirely. Yes, you challenged NCA. However, you're at war with RKK, m0o and evol aswell. Running away to NCA and thinking you got rid of us isn't the idea of war. If you don't like us in your space, give it up and go to empire, and fight NCA from there over something you couldn't defend in the first place. And i'm not talking about just space here. Also, thanks for giving branch, tenal and venal to us. Afterall, you'll be in NCA space, right? Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:54:00 - [493] Dear Leafo, One small point about the movie. I find it highly amusing that on the screen that declares the following: "Lies and Misinformation was spread by ones that the phoenix saw as friends" You choose the following page from the RKK website to move across the background: I fear the PA Fleet Commanders are going mad You appear, at least in RKK eyes, to be insinuating that we are not only liars (as many have done before) but that specific article was a lie and misinformation. If you wish, I can give you screenshots of those evemails as I received them in-game? Yet again, apart from being called a liar, the only false propoganda is in fact coming from the PA side. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:54:00 - [494] Dear Leafo, One small point about the movie. I find it highly amusing that on the screen that declares the following: "Lies and Misinformation was spread by ones that the phoenix saw as friends" You choose the following page from the RKK website to move across the background: I fear the PA Fleet Commanders are going mad You appear, at least in RKK eyes, to be insinuating that we are not only liars (as many have done before) but that specific article was a lie and misinformation. If you wish, I can give you screenshots of those evemails as I received them in-game? Yet again, apart from being called a liar, the only false propoganda is in fact coming from the PA side. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Teelmaster	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:59:00 - [495] Originally by: Notferr Edited by: Notferr on 25/08/2004 16:54:38 à. Breaking newsà.. Recap of last few pages: Artegg: We want to fight everyone in a big fleet battle Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Blacklight: When and where? Artegg: Don't have the time right now. Moving, washing hair, polishing nails, Jonny is coming by to take me to dinner. He even brought me flowers! How cute! I lub you snookums! Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: Busy getting evening gown pressed. Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: You are wrong again i never challenged anyone to a fight. More at 11. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....you pretty much got everything there.
Teelmaster	Posted - 2004.08.25 16:59:00 - [496] Originally by: Notferr Edited by: Notferr on 25/08/2004 16:54:38 à. Breaking newsà.. Recap of last few pages: Artegg: We want to fight everyone in a big fleet battle Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Blacklight: When and where? Artegg: Don't have the time right now. Moving, washing hair, polishing nails, Jonny is coming by to take me to dinner. He even brought me flowers! How cute! I lub you snookums! Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: Busy getting evening gown pressed. Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: You are wrong again i never challenged anyone to a fight. More at 11. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....you pretty much got everything there.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:00:00 - [497] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 17:05:30 Originally by: Fragm OMG off she goes again this BIT** never stfu does she? Mods ? I don't mind a bit of insulting, but this goes way out there. The man clearly has no self control. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:00:00 - [498] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 17:05:30 Originally by: Fragm OMG off she goes again this BIT** never stfu does she? Mods ? I don't mind a bit of insulting, but this goes way out there. The man clearly has no self control. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Jonny Damordred	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:07:00 - [499] Originally by: Notferr Jonny is coming by to take me to dinner. He even brought me flowers! How cute! I lub you snookums! Jonny D. ----- Jonny Damordred: Political attachÚ of the Drunken Horde.
Jonny Damordred	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:07:00 - [500] Originally by: Notferr Jonny is coming by to take me to dinner. He even brought me flowers! How cute! I lub you snookums! Jonny D. ----- Jonny Damordred: Political attachÚ of the Drunken Horde.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:09:00 - [501] Quote: à. Breaking newsà.. Recap of last few pages: Artegg: We want to fight everyone in a big fleet battle Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Blacklight: When and where? Artegg: Don't have the time right now. Moving, washing hair, polishing nails, Jonny is coming by to take me to dinner. He even brought me flowers! How cute! I lub you snookums! Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: Busy getting evening gown pressed. Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: You are wrong again i never challenged anyone to a fight. How could you Notferr! You forget the opening ... Some PA guy: Anyway Jade you know nothing about the war n fighting n stuff who are you to talk! Jade: Well flyboy, lets have a fight and see about that! Some PA guy: Actually ummm lets not, I feel a bit less confident in space than I do on the forums Jade: Well perhaps you'd better shush on military matters then? Some PA guy: How could you! You Bully! I'm a noob! Artegg: Jade is bullying PA noobs! etc JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:09:00 - [502] Quote: à. Breaking newsà.. Recap of last few pages: Artegg: We want to fight everyone in a big fleet battle Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Blacklight: When and where? Artegg: Don't have the time right now. Moving, washing hair, polishing nails, Jonny is coming by to take me to dinner. He even brought me flowers! How cute! I lub you snookums! Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: Busy getting evening gown pressed. Molle: Get in or STFU. When and where? Omniwar: Get in or STFU. When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: We will WFTPWN you! Molle: When and where? Omniwar: When and where? Artegg: You are wrong again i never challenged anyone to a fight. How could you Notferr! You forget the opening ... Some PA guy: Anyway Jade you know nothing about the war n fighting n stuff who are you to talk! Jade: Well flyboy, lets have a fight and see about that! Some PA guy: Actually ummm lets not, I feel a bit less confident in space than I do on the forums Jade: Well perhaps you'd better shush on military matters then? Some PA guy: How could you! You Bully! I'm a noob! Artegg: Jade is bullying PA noobs! etc JF Public Forum
Fragm	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:10:00 - [503] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 17:05:30 Originally by: Fragm OMG off she goes again this BIT** never stfu does she? Mods ? I don't mind a bit of insulting, but this goes way out there. The man clearly has no self control. Goed denk ik dat u misschien bent is een weinig domme ook evol nummers enkel niet vaardigheid en omdat u niet engels u prolly bent, kan niet begrijpen wat wij doen kunnen, ziet u op het strijd veld indien u ooit loskoppelt Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Fragm	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:10:00 - [504] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 17:05:30 Originally by: Fragm OMG off she goes again this BIT** never stfu does she? Mods ? I don't mind a bit of insulting, but this goes way out there. The man clearly has no self control. Goed denk ik dat u misschien bent is een weinig domme ook evol nummers enkel niet vaardigheid en omdat u niet engels u prolly bent, kan niet begrijpen wat wij doen kunnen, ziet u op het strijd veld indien u ooit loskoppelt Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:15:00 - [505] Originally by: Fragm Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 17:05:30 Originally by: Fragm OMG off she goes again this BIT** never stfu does she? Mods ? I don't mind a bit of insulting, but this goes way out there. The man clearly has no self control. Goed denk ik dat u misschien bent is een weinig domme ook evol nummers enkel niet vaardigheid en omdat u niet engels u prolly bent, kan niet begrijpen wat wij doen kunnen, ziet u op het strijd veld indien u ooit loskoppelt Good comeback ! Teaches me to edit quicker Anyway, you got the language down reasonably, tho the sequence of the words could be better. Used some kind of dictionary on that ? Anyway, try not to be as harsh on my girls from now on ok ? I'll keep from trying to lure you out by using dutch on here then. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:15:00 - [506] Originally by: Fragm Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 25/08/2004 17:05:30 Originally by: Fragm OMG off she goes again this BIT** never stfu does she? Mods ? I don't mind a bit of insulting, but this goes way out there. The man clearly has no self control. Goed denk ik dat u misschien bent is een weinig domme ook evol nummers enkel niet vaardigheid en omdat u niet engels u prolly bent, kan niet begrijpen wat wij doen kunnen, ziet u op het strijd veld indien u ooit loskoppelt Good comeback ! Teaches me to edit quicker Anyway, you got the language down reasonably, tho the sequence of the words could be better. Used some kind of dictionary on that ? Anyway, try not to be as harsh on my girls from now on ok ? I'll keep from trying to lure you out by using dutch on here then. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:19:00 - [507] Edited by: Reiisha on 25/08/2004 17:22:33 Could anyone tell me what TFA is doing in here? --Good one Fragm, found a translator site? I hope you know that's my native language aswell.... Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:19:00 - [508] Edited by: Reiisha on 25/08/2004 17:22:33 Could anyone tell me what TFA is doing in here? --Good one Fragm, found a translator site? I hope you know that's my native language aswell.... Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:20:00 - [509] Apparently having some sort of spasm. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:20:00 - [510] Apparently having some sort of spasm. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:25:00 - [511] Originally by: Notferr Apparently having some sort of spasm. Like all TPS and CA style personnas the Fenix dweller is possessed by an unstoppable urge to jump up and down and bare its purple buttocks for the passers-by if it is not shown attention for a few hours. This is perfectly normal behaviour for this species and nothing to worry about. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:25:00 - [512] Originally by: Notferr Apparently having some sort of spasm. Like all TPS and CA style personnas the Fenix dweller is possessed by an unstoppable urge to jump up and down and bare its purple buttocks for the passers-by if it is not shown attention for a few hours. This is perfectly normal behaviour for this species and nothing to worry about. JF Public Forum
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:28:00 - [513] Originally by: Jade Constantine How could you Notferr! You forget the opening ... Some PA guy: Anyway Jade you know nothing about the war n fighting n stuff who are you to talk! Jade: Well flyboy, lets have a fight and see about that! Some PA guy: Actually ummm lets not, I feel a bit less confident in space than I do on the forums Jade: Well perhaps you'd better shush on military matters then? Some PA guy: How could you! You Bully! I'm a noob! Artegg: Jade is bullying PA noobs! etc Actually you got it all wrong m'dear, but im not suprised at all :) Here goes: Ne: Anyway Jade you know nothing about the war in the north, and you were never seen in venal, yet you brag about it like you'd live in BKG. Jade: Well flyboy, lets have a fight and see about that! Me: Actually ummm lets not, i dont see the logic in here Jade: Well perhaps you'd better shush on military matters then? Me: I'm a noob and i dont see this fight well from theoretical point of view. But you avoid the question about NCA _ALLYING_ with evol/moo at all costs. Artegg: Jade is bullying PA noobs! etc Jade: Yap yap yap, big battle! Lets 1v1 ! Haha evol trashtalked you to death. Artegg: You guys dont get it, do you? Evol/Moo: Nobody asked us about our opinion, but all PA are noobs and we WTFPWNBBQ them in whatever system we want! Ha! Lets 200v200! Bobby: Doh. Jade: Since everybody forgot about the initial question, i'll make some more fun of this new player that dares to oppose my opinion, while twisting the very beggining to my side since no one will really bother to get back 8 pages to read all that stuff. Yap yap! Have at thee! Give me a break, really. If you choose not to understand the written word, or choose to ignore parts of other ppl posts, we dont have anything to talk about. Live here joyfully spreading your propaganda to whole public, fortunately most ppl have their own minds and see through it. And btw, you'll get your frigate duel. I just need to figure out time where i could play undisturbed by RL matters. Expect evemail in some time :) -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Nestor Ne'Arthe	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:28:00 - [514] Originally by: Jade Constantine How could you Notferr! You forget the opening ... Some PA guy: Anyway Jade you know nothing about the war n fighting n stuff who are you to talk! Jade: Well flyboy, lets have a fight and see about that! Some PA guy: Actually ummm lets not, I feel a bit less confident in space than I do on the forums Jade: Well perhaps you'd better shush on military matters then? Some PA guy: How could you! You Bully! I'm a noob! Artegg: Jade is bullying PA noobs! etc Actually you got it all wrong m'dear, but im not suprised at all :) Here goes: Ne: Anyway Jade you know nothing about the war in the north, and you were never seen in venal, yet you brag about it like you'd live in BKG. Jade: Well flyboy, lets have a fight and see about that! Me: Actually ummm lets not, i dont see the logic in here Jade: Well perhaps you'd better shush on military matters then? Me: I'm a noob and i dont see this fight well from theoretical point of view. But you avoid the question about NCA _ALLYING_ with evol/moo at all costs. Artegg: Jade is bullying PA noobs! etc Jade: Yap yap yap, big battle! Lets 1v1 ! Haha evol trashtalked you to death. Artegg: You guys dont get it, do you? Evol/Moo: Nobody asked us about our opinion, but all PA are noobs and we WTFPWNBBQ them in whatever system we want! Ha! Lets 200v200! Bobby: Doh. Jade: Since everybody forgot about the initial question, i'll make some more fun of this new player that dares to oppose my opinion, while twisting the very beggining to my side since no one will really bother to get back 8 pages to read all that stuff. Yap yap! Have at thee! Give me a break, really. If you choose not to understand the written word, or choose to ignore parts of other ppl posts, we dont have anything to talk about. Live here joyfully spreading your propaganda to whole public, fortunately most ppl have their own minds and see through it. And btw, you'll get your frigate duel. I just need to figure out time where i could play undisturbed by RL matters. Expect evemail in some time :) -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:28:00 - [515] Come to think of it, i highly doubt fragm is english, or has english as a native language.... I wonder what the elementary schools teach there, suomi? Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:28:00 - [516] Come to think of it, i highly doubt fragm is english, or has english as a native language.... I wonder what the elementary schools teach there, suomi? Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:35:00 - [517] Originally by: Zarks When we decide to leave we leave, when we decide to return we do that. NCA or evol/moo have no control over Bladerunners or any other corporation in PA and never will have. Venal/tenal/branch will never be your territory no matter what you say or even do on these forums/ingame. hehehe this post reminds me that I own Fountain again. *Fountain will never be FA's territory no matter what they say or even do on these forums/ingame.*
Val Duane	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:35:00 - [518] Originally by: Zarks When we decide to leave we leave, when we decide to return we do that. NCA or evol/moo have no control over Bladerunners or any other corporation in PA and never will have. Venal/tenal/branch will never be your territory no matter what you say or even do on these forums/ingame. hehehe this post reminds me that I own Fountain again. *Fountain will never be FA's territory no matter what they say or even do on these forums/ingame.*
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:57:00 - [519] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 25/08/2004 18:00:10 Okay monsieur Ne'Arthe (since you insist we do it this way) your original post deconstructed: Quote: [to whom can the PA turn]... Apparently not to m0o and evol, since they are already taken and NAP/Allied with NCA what was clearly admitted by DigitalCommunist in one of the earlier threads. Reams of wordage already wasted on this issue: NCA = banner identity for anti PA forces not an alliance with formal structure or common membership rules. Some of the NCA aligned powers maintain NAP's/military cooporation with Moo / some do not. But as far as I know none of the NCA entities gate camp neutrals and engage in piracy with Moo. Where we fly with Moo we do so against the PA whom we consider the greater evil. Quote: From your position , talking about any cooperation with 'shadowy' elements is just hilarious and hypocritical as far as it can get. Which is your rhetorical propaganda-laden and biased assessment coming as it does from a PA member. I would point out that PA is a single organisation and does have a common set of rules and regulations unlike NCA and thus for soem of your corporations to be gate-camping and engaging in piracy alongside TPS fleet assets is to taint your whole organisation. This is not a comparison of like for like: Some NCA have military cooporation with Moo for the purpose of hitting PA. This is not the same as some PA gatecamping neutrals alongside the Pirate Syndicate. If you think it is then you should have paid more attention in ethics class. As the CEO of Jericho Fraction I do not authorise our pilots to gate camp neutrals for the purposes of piracy. It seems that HAOS, RONA-KIA, GODS, CDI and others have far looser standards. Quote: Same goes for your knowledge about the battlefield and state of PA fleet. Tell me m'dear what do you know about the battle? I've never seen you anywhere near PA regions, and all i see of you are killmails from EC area or some PB/Fade junction systems. JF is fighting where we have always been fighting ... Pureblind and adjacent regions and since my personal kill total in this war is probably 10x higher than yours I take your critique on my military involvement with a certain pinch of salt. And as for what I know of the fighting, well, the NCA and allies talk to each other and we publish our kills and losses openly. Honesty is the best policy. Our forums are open, information flows, everyone is informed. (unlike the closed forum of the PA of course and climate of event denial and mutual lying about kills) - and here I am thinking of the 4 JF Battleships that Rual Storge claimed to have destroyed in empire that of course never happened. Quote: Oh yes, of course these are travel setups. Have you ever considered equipping battle mods, since travel tricks fail you every time? Once again you question my fighting ability. It seemed you really did want to test me in combat monsieur. Surely if I am the incompentent fool you would make out you should be able to win easily? Quote: I do not wish to brag about kills and so other. What amuses me , is the 'vast knowledge' that you provide here. A 'knowledge' that is only a rumor heard on internal comms. Kill mails are not rumours. Spy intelligence and chatlog intercepts are not rumours. These things are solid information we base opinions on. I suspect I know much more about the PA internal dynamics than you do. Quote: If PA is dying, then what is happening with deklein/fade? One can easily notice that deklein is a ghost town. Empty as tenal region (which was 'claimed' by SOL). Not a soul there. How is NCA victorious? Pure froth and nonsense I am afraid. You say things with no basis in fact. I suggest you take your ship into CZD and send us some camera images from the station at various timestamps throughout the day. Quote: And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) I do believe the only thing this statement "proves" is that you fear Moo/Evol a great deal and wish to have a battle without the involvement of the people that have been spanking you for the last couple of months. I can understand why you might wish that of course, but the desire hardly supports the rest of your hypothesis now does it? *** Now I trust you see how dull that was? You literally bring nothing new to the debate and simply throw around a lot of tired old nonsense and unfounded assertions. I believed (and still do) that the merciful thing was to ignore what you said pretty much. I certainly felt no desire to actually debate it. The prospect of a spaceship fight was much more attactive and likely to add up to some amusement than wrangling dry-bone numptitude with a PA fanb JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 17:57:00 - [520] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 25/08/2004 18:00:10 Okay monsieur Ne'Arthe (since you insist we do it this way) your original post deconstructed: Quote: [to whom can the PA turn]... Apparently not to m0o and evol, since they are already taken and NAP/Allied with NCA what was clearly admitted by DigitalCommunist in one of the earlier threads. Reams of wordage already wasted on this issue: NCA = banner identity for anti PA forces not an alliance with formal structure or common membership rules. Some of the NCA aligned powers maintain NAP's/military cooporation with Moo / some do not. But as far as I know none of the NCA entities gate camp neutrals and engage in piracy with Moo. Where we fly with Moo we do so against the PA whom we consider the greater evil. Quote: From your position , talking about any cooperation with 'shadowy' elements is just hilarious and hypocritical as far as it can get. Which is your rhetorical propaganda-laden and biased assessment coming as it does from a PA member. I would point out that PA is a single organisation and does have a common set of rules and regulations unlike NCA and thus for soem of your corporations to be gate-camping and engaging in piracy alongside TPS fleet assets is to taint your whole organisation. This is not a comparison of like for like: Some NCA have military cooporation with Moo for the purpose of hitting PA. This is not the same as some PA gatecamping neutrals alongside the Pirate Syndicate. If you think it is then you should have paid more attention in ethics class. As the CEO of Jericho Fraction I do not authorise our pilots to gate camp neutrals for the purposes of piracy. It seems that HAOS, RONA-KIA, GODS, CDI and others have far looser standards. Quote: Same goes for your knowledge about the battlefield and state of PA fleet. Tell me m'dear what do you know about the battle? I've never seen you anywhere near PA regions, and all i see of you are killmails from EC area or some PB/Fade junction systems. JF is fighting where we have always been fighting ... Pureblind and adjacent regions and since my personal kill total in this war is probably 10x higher than yours I take your critique on my military involvement with a certain pinch of salt. And as for what I know of the fighting, well, the NCA and allies talk to each other and we publish our kills and losses openly. Honesty is the best policy. Our forums are open, information flows, everyone is informed. (unlike the closed forum of the PA of course and climate of event denial and mutual lying about kills) - and here I am thinking of the 4 JF Battleships that Rual Storge claimed to have destroyed in empire that of course never happened. Quote: Oh yes, of course these are travel setups. Have you ever considered equipping battle mods, since travel tricks fail you every time? Once again you question my fighting ability. It seemed you really did want to test me in combat monsieur. Surely if I am the incompentent fool you would make out you should be able to win easily? Quote: I do not wish to brag about kills and so other. What amuses me , is the 'vast knowledge' that you provide here. A 'knowledge' that is only a rumor heard on internal comms. Kill mails are not rumours. Spy intelligence and chatlog intercepts are not rumours. These things are solid information we base opinions on. I suspect I know much more about the PA internal dynamics than you do. Quote: If PA is dying, then what is happening with deklein/fade? One can easily notice that deklein is a ghost town. Empty as tenal region (which was 'claimed' by SOL). Not a soul there. How is NCA victorious? Pure froth and nonsense I am afraid. You say things with no basis in fact. I suggest you take your ship into CZD and send us some camera images from the station at various timestamps throughout the day. Quote: And finally, if you are really so strong, and standing fast. Lets have a battle, only you and us, no moo/evol around. Im really curious of the outcome m'dear. I know it, you know it. But you wont admit it :) I do believe the only thing this statement "proves" is that you fear Moo/Evol a great deal and wish to have a battle without the involvement of the people that have been spanking you for the last couple of months. I can understand why you might wish that of course, but the desire hardly supports the rest of your hypothesis now does it? *** Now I trust you see how dull that was? You literally bring nothing new to the debate and simply throw around a lot of tired old nonsense and unfounded assertions. I believed (and still do) that the merciful thing was to ignore what you said pretty much. I certainly felt no desire to actually debate it. The prospect of a spaceship fight was much more attactive and likely to add up to some amusement than wrangling dry-bone numptitude with a PA fanb JF Public Forum
Fragm	Posted - 2004.08.25 18:37:00 - [521] jade and what is your view about tps ? Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Fragm	Posted - 2004.08.25 18:37:00 - [522] jade and what is your view about tps ? Cao Cao > Alright well I checked the logs, and I got wtfpwned, I admit I was wrong, nice kill guys OK i made a post Flame away
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 18:59:00 - [523] Edited by: Reiisha on 25/08/2004 19:02:56 Fragm, kill mails please. I haven't heard of anyone being killed by you who also had weapons fitted and was in something larger than a cruiser. Oh, and about gonditsa, i distincly remember TFA logging off when evol came. Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.08.25 18:59:00 - [524] Edited by: Reiisha on 25/08/2004 19:02:56 Fragm, kill mails please. I haven't heard of anyone being killed by you who also had weapons fitted and was in something larger than a cruiser. Oh, and about gonditsa, i distincly remember TFA logging off when evol came. Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.25 19:10:00 - [525] Edited by: Notferr on 25/08/2004 19:34:07 Originally by: Fragm yeah thats why i have been killing your corp all over fade and pure blind o will see you soon i hope you are ready i know you have lost alot of bs's to me hope you have more! and as for you reiisha is evol still mad at me for your mass murder in gonditsa 3 or 4 moths back LOL Eh, yeah... Sure... Kill mails please. You want to go one on one? Name the ship class, and the location. I will set the time. The only times I have seen the Strawberry Shortcakes (the RKK code name for the TPS) outside of ECP has been your raids into C4C, and our raids into D-7. Everytime, FADE and her allies have rallied. I understand that we got WTFPWNED once. I have been present for three WTFPWNED's on you, Strawberry. Go back to watching Nickelodeon. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.08.25 19:10:00 - [526] Edited by: Notferr on 25/08/2004 19:34:07 Originally by: Fragm yeah thats why i have been killing your corp all over fade and pure blind o will see you soon i hope you are ready i know you have lost alot of bs's to me hope you have more! and as for you reiisha is evol still mad at me for your mass murder in gonditsa 3 or 4 moths back LOL Eh, yeah... Sure... Kill mails please. You want to go one on one? Name the ship class, and the location. I will set the time. The only times I have seen the Strawberry Shortcakes (the RKK code name for the TPS) outside of ECP has been your raids into C4C, and our raids into D-7. Everytime, FADE and her allies have rallied. I understand that we got WTFPWNED once. I have been present for three WTFPWNED's on you, Strawberry. Go back to watching Nickelodeon. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2004.08.25 19:36:00 - [527] Originally by: DB Preacher Dear Halseth, Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? dbp This is so wrong it's making my head spin At no time did the NVA receive any chatlogs concerning or about any F-E operations ever. trying to say otherwise is wrong, false bahh you get the picture ________________________________________
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2004.08.25 19:36:00 - [528] Originally by: DB Preacher Dear Halseth, Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? dbp This is so wrong it's making my head spin At no time did the NVA receive any chatlogs concerning or about any F-E operations ever. trying to say otherwise is wrong, false bahh you get the picture ________________________________________
Cyleth	Posted - 2004.08.25 20:01:00 - [529] Originally by: Reiisha Come to think of it, i highly doubt fragm is english, or has english as a native language.... I wonder what the elementary schools teach there, suomi? You know that suomi = Finland and the language fragm typed there got nothing to do with finnish.
Cyleth	Posted - 2004.08.25 20:01:00 - [530] Originally by: Reiisha Come to think of it, i highly doubt fragm is english, or has english as a native language.... I wonder what the elementary schools teach there, suomi? You know that suomi = Finland and the language fragm typed there got nothing to do with finnish.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 20:40:00 - [531] Originally by: Diamond Dog Originally by: DB Preacher Dear Halseth, Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? dbp This is so wrong it's making my head spin At no time did the NVA receive any chatlogs concerning or about any F-E operations ever. trying to say otherwise is wrong, false bahh you get the picture maybe you weren't privvy to that I guess DD. I certainly was, as were the other MIB leaders at the time. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.25 20:40:00 - [532] Originally by: Diamond Dog Originally by: DB Preacher Dear Halseth, Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? dbp This is so wrong it's making my head spin At no time did the NVA receive any chatlogs concerning or about any F-E operations ever. trying to say otherwise is wrong, false bahh you get the picture maybe you weren't privvy to that I guess DD. I certainly was, as were the other MIB leaders at the time. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2004.08.25 20:46:00 - [533] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Diamond Dog Originally by: DB Preacher Dear Halseth, Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? dbp This is so wrong it's making my head spin At no time did the NVA receive any chatlogs concerning or about any F-E operations ever. trying to say otherwise is wrong, false bahh you get the picture maybe you weren't privvy to that I guess DD. I certainly was, as were the other MIB leaders at the time. dbp I was actually and I never saw any chatlogs.. just a step by step analysis of the F-E weaknesses and strong points. ________________________________________
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2004.08.25 20:46:00 - [534] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Diamond Dog Originally by: DB Preacher Dear Halseth, Perhaps I could refresh your memory of the Spy we had inside F-E called "rosesomethingorother" who would provide the NVA with chatlogs of what the F-E were doing and what they were achieving? dbp This is so wrong it's making my head spin At no time did the NVA receive any chatlogs concerning or about any F-E operations ever. trying to say otherwise is wrong, false bahh you get the picture maybe you weren't privvy to that I guess DD. I certainly was, as were the other MIB leaders at the time. dbp I was actually and I never saw any chatlogs.. just a step by step analysis of the F-E weaknesses and strong points. ________________________________________
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:08:00 - [535] As usual DB Preacher is telling the truth. NVA had several spies inside M3G4/Biomass/FE and chatlogs were made available to the MIB. That is all. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:08:00 - [536] As usual DB Preacher is telling the truth. NVA had several spies inside M3G4/Biomass/FE and chatlogs were made available to the MIB. That is all. JF Public Forum
Ly'sol	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:15:00 - [537] We have Battleships? -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
Ly'sol	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:15:00 - [538] We have Battleships? -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
Casey Jens	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:16:00 - [539] Just a second to Jade's post, the chatlogs were there for MIB.
Casey Jens	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:16:00 - [540] Just a second to Jade's post, the chatlogs were there for MIB.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:28:00 - [541] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 25/08/2004 22:08:16 here come the men in black! my movie download screwed halfway thru (server was reset) it said.(frgam's movie) My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:28:00 - [542] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 25/08/2004 22:08:16 here come the men in black! my movie download screwed halfway thru (server was reset) it said.(frgam's movie) My vids and random stuff
Bobbeh	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:36:00 - [543] I HATE THIS Mimiru > It'd be a tie, the monkies nerfed pooflinger wouldnt have enough tracking to hit the parrot orbiting him, but the parrot's beak is so small it couldnt break the monkey's fur tanking.
Bobbeh	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:36:00 - [544] I HATE THIS Mimiru > It'd be a tie, the monkies nerfed pooflinger wouldnt have enough tracking to hit the parrot orbiting him, but the parrot's beak is so small it couldnt break the monkey's fur tanking.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:40:00 - [545] Originally by: Bobbeh I HATE THIS What ? Hate leads to....you know. Don't hate, love...love pink and get in with Alexandra. That'll take care of your hate allright. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:40:00 - [546] Originally by: Bobbeh I HATE THIS What ? Hate leads to....you know. Don't hate, love...love pink and get in with Alexandra. That'll take care of your hate allright. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:41:00 - [547] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 25/08/2004 21:43:21 will turn u into a bloody p0of, and make u love all things fluffy. My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:41:00 - [548] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 25/08/2004 21:43:21 will turn u into a bloody p0of, and make u love all things fluffy. My vids and random stuff
Henric Bonneau	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:56:00 - [549] Excellent video as usual, Leafo. Keep up the good work! /Henric
Henric Bonneau	Posted - 2004.08.25 21:56:00 - [550] Excellent video as usual, Leafo. Keep up the good work! /Henric
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.08.25 22:46:00 - [551] Really cool vids, PA. But this tread .... MUHAHAHAHA.ROFL.... Sorry, but I dream in the night, when i sleep. No like some people have daydreams on the forum like Jade ask for a 1v1 or NORAD ask for a ceasefire with m0o... Whats ur next dream ? m0o become the mining wing of Xanadu ? I leave you alone , with a big ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.08.25 22:46:00 - [552] Really cool vids, PA. But this tread .... MUHAHAHAHA.ROFL.... Sorry, but I dream in the night, when i sleep. No like some people have daydreams on the forum like Jade ask for a 1v1 or NORAD ask for a ceasefire with m0o... Whats ur next dream ? m0o become the mining wing of Xanadu ? I leave you alone , with a big ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
Skape Gote	Posted - 2004.08.25 22:46:00 - [553] Originally by: Notferr Edited by: Notferr on 25/08/2004 19:34:07 Originally by: Fragm yeah thats why i have been killing your corp all over fade and pure blind o will see you soon i hope you are ready i know you have lost alot of bs's to me hope you have more! and as for you reiisha is evol still mad at me for your mass murder in gonditsa 3 or 4 moths back LOL Eh, yeah... Sure... Kill mails please. You want to go one on one? Name the ship class, and the location. I will set the time. The only times I have seen the Strawberry Shortcakes (the RKK code name for the TPS) outside of ECP has been your raids into C4C, and our raids into D-7. Everytime, FADE and her allies have rallied. I understand that we got WTFPWNED once. I have been present for three WTFPWNED's on you, Strawberry. Go back to watching Nickelodeon. Interesting to see how Notferr rates his chances in a 1 v 1, I had an interesting conversation with Jade Constantine who as you will read doesnt seem to rate him that highly. [ 2004.08.24 01:56:26 ] Skape Gote > u can hide behind your words jade, but the truth is they mean nothing and ive the kills to back up whatever i say [ 2004.08.24 01:56:48 ] Jade Constantine > ummm ... your kills? [ 2004.08.24 01:56:55 ] Jade Constantine > aren't they scored against novices [ 2004.08.24 01:57:03 ] Skape Gote > u r nothing but your words and the consensus of opinion nowadays is that your words are seen as a joke [ 2004.08.24 01:57:04 ] Jade Constantine > and unarmed freighters? [ 2004.08.24 01:57:11 ] Jade Constantine > not very impressive [ 2004.08.24 01:57:16 ] Jade Constantine > ah [ 2004.08.24 01:57:20 ] Jade Constantine > a "consensus" [ 2004.08.24 01:57:31 ] Skape Gote > i have notferr as a kill for 1 [ 2004.08.24 01:57:33 ] Jade Constantine > and would this be a consensus of CA, PA, and TPS numpties? [ 2004.08.24 01:57:47 ] Jade Constantine > notferr is a carebear! [ 2004.08.24 01:57:53 ] Jade Constantine > he admits it himself [ 2004.08.24 01:58:01 ] Jade Constantine > thats hardly anything to be proud off So there you go, not front page news but interesting how people are judged by others and if JC says it it must be true. I await Jade's riposte (private joke) Ps. Worth pointing out I didnt get the final blow and thus the kill message but i was part of the kill, this can be backed up by checking out the Curse kill list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
Skape Gote	Posted - 2004.08.25 22:46:00 - [554] Originally by: Notferr Edited by: Notferr on 25/08/2004 19:34:07 Originally by: Fragm yeah thats why i have been killing your corp all over fade and pure blind o will see you soon i hope you are ready i know you have lost alot of bs's to me hope you have more! and as for you reiisha is evol still mad at me for your mass murder in gonditsa 3 or 4 moths back LOL Eh, yeah... Sure... Kill mails please. You want to go one on one? Name the ship class, and the location. I will set the time. The only times I have seen the Strawberry Shortcakes (the RKK code name for the TPS) outside of ECP has been your raids into C4C, and our raids into D-7. Everytime, FADE and her allies have rallied. I understand that we got WTFPWNED once. I have been present for three WTFPWNED's on you, Strawberry. Go back to watching Nickelodeon. Interesting to see how Notferr rates his chances in a 1 v 1, I had an interesting conversation with Jade Constantine who as you will read doesnt seem to rate him that highly. [ 2004.08.24 01:56:26 ] Skape Gote > u can hide behind your words jade, but the truth is they mean nothing and ive the kills to back up whatever i say [ 2004.08.24 01:56:48 ] Jade Constantine > ummm ... your kills? [ 2004.08.24 01:56:55 ] Jade Constantine > aren't they scored against novices [ 2004.08.24 01:57:03 ] Skape Gote > u r nothing but your words and the consensus of opinion nowadays is that your words are seen as a joke [ 2004.08.24 01:57:04 ] Jade Constantine > and unarmed freighters? [ 2004.08.24 01:57:11 ] Jade Constantine > not very impressive [ 2004.08.24 01:57:16 ] Jade Constantine > ah [ 2004.08.24 01:57:20 ] Jade Constantine > a "consensus" [ 2004.08.24 01:57:31 ] Skape Gote > i have notferr as a kill for 1 [ 2004.08.24 01:57:33 ] Jade Constantine > and would this be a consensus of CA, PA, and TPS numpties? [ 2004.08.24 01:57:47 ] Jade Constantine > notferr is a carebear! [ 2004.08.24 01:57:53 ] Jade Constantine > he admits it himself [ 2004.08.24 01:58:01 ] Jade Constantine > thats hardly anything to be proud off So there you go, not front page news but interesting how people are judged by others and if JC says it it must be true. I await Jade's riposte (private joke) Ps. Worth pointing out I didnt get the final blow and thus the kill message but i was part of the kill, this can be backed up by checking out the Curse kill list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.26 00:01:00 - [555] So I have to say again Skape Gote, your multi ship killing of Notferr wasn't really that impressive. Its not like the poor fellow is the great white whale or something to your captain Ahab is it? Notferr is like me, not a career combat pilot, just one of the heroic free fighters of the NCA fighting to neutralise PA tyranny. And just to underline the message; skill and talent is only half the story, without the courage to actually get into spaceships and fight for what you believe in it really doesn't matter how good you are. I have a lot of respect for "carebears" that climb into combat ships and put their livelihoods on the line for a cause. But seasoned combat pilots shouldn't really be boasting about killing militia fighters with multiple ships onto their one. I'm sorry, but I still don't see that as any great accomplishment. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.26 00:01:00 - [556] So I have to say again Skape Gote, your multi ship killing of Notferr wasn't really that impressive. Its not like the poor fellow is the great white whale or something to your captain Ahab is it? Notferr is like me, not a career combat pilot, just one of the heroic free fighters of the NCA fighting to neutralise PA tyranny. And just to underline the message; skill and talent is only half the story, without the courage to actually get into spaceships and fight for what you believe in it really doesn't matter how good you are. I have a lot of respect for "carebears" that climb into combat ships and put their livelihoods on the line for a cause. But seasoned combat pilots shouldn't really be boasting about killing militia fighters with multiple ships onto their one. I'm sorry, but I still don't see that as any great accomplishment. JF Public Forum
Maiwenn LeBesc0	Posted - 2004.08.26 00:10:00 - [557] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. Yes, Im afraid whejl is quite correct, as was demonstrated in 2001's famous case concerning The State vs =SB=Vic10u$c007. I believe clan Sl1ngBL4d3's reckless leader received a 2 year sentence for secretly reading Team FIST's cs_dust strats before the season 3 clanbase semifinals. Although the silly lad was only convicted because he used his Epson Bubblejet to make print outs of the evidence, which were found blue-tacked to his bedroom wall. Fortunately, our spies never make hard copies. It is my understanding, however, that there is a legal requirement for you to record all conversations when you report this unauthorized reading of your spaceship computer game messageboards to the relevent authorities. Apparently these recordings must then be sent to us immediately for our ~~entertainment~~ evaluation, or the complaint can not be validated in a court of law. A warning, however: Viceroy is on our side. Evolution made me TOO LAZY to change my sig.
Maiwenn LeBesc0	Posted - 2004.08.26 00:10:00 - [558] Originally by: whejl Originally by: SirMolle Yes, we read your forums. That, might in fact be illegal IRL in some cases, depending on how the access is provided. Not pointing any fingers, just some thoughts for all involved. Yes, Im afraid whejl is quite correct, as was demonstrated in 2001's famous case concerning The State vs =SB=Vic10u$c007. I believe clan Sl1ngBL4d3's reckless leader received a 2 year sentence for secretly reading Team FIST's cs_dust strats before the season 3 clanbase semifinals. Although the silly lad was only convicted because he used his Epson Bubblejet to make print outs of the evidence, which were found blue-tacked to his bedroom wall. Fortunately, our spies never make hard copies. It is my understanding, however, that there is a legal requirement for you to record all conversations when you report this unauthorized reading of your spaceship computer game messageboards to the relevent authorities. Apparently these recordings must then be sent to us immediately for our ~~entertainment~~ evaluation, or the complaint can not be validated in a court of law. A warning, however: Viceroy is on our side. Evolution made me TOO LAZY to change my sig.
Skape Gote	Posted - 2004.08.26 00:48:00 - [559] Originally by: Jade Constantine So I have to say again Skape Gote, your multi ship killing of Notferr wasn't really that impressive. Its not like the poor fellow is the great white whale or something to your captain Ahab is it? Notferr is like me, not a career combat pilot, just one of the heroic free fighters of the NCA fighting to neutralise PA tyranny. And just to underline the message; skill and talent is only half the story, without the courage to actually get into spaceships and fight for what you believe in it really doesn't matter how good you are. I have a lot of respect for "carebears" that climb into combat ships and put their livelihoods on the line for a cause. But seasoned combat pilots shouldn't really be boasting about killing militia fighters with multiple ships onto their one. I'm sorry, but I still don't see that as any great accomplishment. My post wasnt boasting about killing Notferr, you asked me about my kills and Notferr was someone that I thought you would now, I wasnt aware of his PvP skills either way to be honest. I posted a small section of our chat (which I have to say I enjoyed, you may not be a great PvPer, but your words were as sharp as a torpedo, just a shame I had my debating hardeners on ) to show the nonsense of Notferr puffing out his chest challenging people to 1 v 1's when hes not even rated in the slightest by some of his closest allies. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
Skape Gote	Posted - 2004.08.26 00:48:00 - [560] Originally by: Jade Constantine So I have to say again Skape Gote, your multi ship killing of Notferr wasn't really that impressive. Its not like the poor fellow is the great white whale or something to your captain Ahab is it? Notferr is like me, not a career combat pilot, just one of the heroic free fighters of the NCA fighting to neutralise PA tyranny. And just to underline the message; skill and talent is only half the story, without the courage to actually get into spaceships and fight for what you believe in it really doesn't matter how good you are. I have a lot of respect for "carebears" that climb into combat ships and put their livelihoods on the line for a cause. But seasoned combat pilots shouldn't really be boasting about killing militia fighters with multiple ships onto their one. I'm sorry, but I still don't see that as any great accomplishment. My post wasnt boasting about killing Notferr, you asked me about my kills and Notferr was someone that I thought you would now, I wasnt aware of his PvP skills either way to be honest. I posted a small section of our chat (which I have to say I enjoyed, you may not be a great PvPer, but your words were as sharp as a torpedo, just a shame I had my debating hardeners on ) to show the nonsense of Notferr puffing out his chest challenging people to 1 v 1's when hes not even rated in the slightest by some of his closest allies. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.26 01:09:00 - [561] You are still missing the point though Skape Gote. Its not about the ability and talent in combat, most of the time its about the willingness to have a go. Notferr may not be the greatest combat pilot in Eve but he's got the guts to put his ship on the line and give it a good try. Hence there is nothing in the slightest bit ridiculous about him challenging people to a fight, thats called courage. JF Public Forum
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.08.26 01:09:00 - [562] You are still missing the point though Skape Gote. Its not about the ability and talent in combat, most of the time its about the willingness to have a go. Notferr may not be the greatest combat pilot in Eve but he's got the guts to put his ship on the line and give it a good try. Hence there is nothing in the slightest bit ridiculous about him challenging people to a fight, thats called courage. JF Public Forum
EternalDark	Posted - 2004.08.26 04:10:00 - [563] Edited by: EternalDark on 26/08/2004 04:11:33 So whats your excuse? Yarr!
EternalDark	Posted - 2004.08.26 04:10:00 - [564] Edited by: EternalDark on 26/08/2004 04:11:33 So whats your excuse? Yarr!
Skape Gote	Posted - 2004.08.26 04:35:00 - [565] Originally by: Jade Constantine You are still missing the point though Skape Gote. Its not about the ability and talent in combat, most of the time its about the willingness to have a go. Notferr may not be the greatest combat pilot in Eve but he's got the guts to put his ship on the line and give it a good try. Hence there is nothing in the slightest bit ridiculous about him challenging people to a fight, thats called courage. Courage or stupidity? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
Skape Gote	Posted - 2004.08.26 04:35:00 - [566] Originally by: Jade Constantine You are still missing the point though Skape Gote. Its not about the ability and talent in combat, most of the time its about the willingness to have a go. Notferr may not be the greatest combat pilot in Eve but he's got the guts to put his ship on the line and give it a good try. Hence there is nothing in the slightest bit ridiculous about him challenging people to a fight, thats called courage. Courage or stupidity? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
Selim	Posted - 2004.08.26 07:09:00 - [567] forum wars rulezorz!
Selim	Posted - 2004.08.26 07:09:00 - [568] forum wars rulezorz!
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.26 08:41:00 - [569] LoL @ 15 pages, the original post must of reallt stirred up the *****s. Doesnt look like the 30v30 idea is gonna take off, but if it ever does, maybe a 1 month forum stfu session would be the prize ;) (PA would fight hard not have to read this utter drivel, over and over and over again, I'm guessing the rest of the community probs feels the same) Jake Constantwhine, you do it for me tbh. Sheer Class. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.08.26 08:41:00 - [570] LoL @ 15 pages, the original post must of reallt stirred up the *****s. Doesnt look like the 30v30 idea is gonna take off, but if it ever does, maybe a 1 month forum stfu session would be the prize ;) (PA would fight hard not have to read this utter drivel, over and over and over again, I'm guessing the rest of the community probs feels the same) Jake Constantwhine, you do it for me tbh. Sheer Class. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2004.08.26 09:44:00 - [571] Thread has run its course after being given a second chance, but since both sides insist on flaming and trolling each other, it will be locked and stay locked this time. ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)
Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2004.08.26 09:44:00 - [572] Thread has run its course after being given a second chance, but since both sides insist on flaming and trolling each other, it will be locked and stay locked this time. ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)

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