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Pboyt
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Posted - 2009.04.04 17:35:00 -
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Cruiser versions of the interceptors. You get meH?
- Lack firepower
- Have speed + agility!
- Have omfgwtfpwned tackle capablities (thinking warp scram/web)
Post your views.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.04.04 17:39:00 -
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may i introduce you to the scimitar?
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Kateryne
Minmatar
Nisaba Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.04 17:54:00 -
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I've been thinking that with the change of Bombers to their proper role of anti-large target, that we need a new class of ship.
Basically something in the destroyer size category, that has a bonus to HAMS or just heavy missiles, and is designed around taking out frigates of all kinds.
Something like:
Destroyer bonus - 10% missile velocity per level, 10% reduction in target sig radius per level
Heavy Interceptor bonus - 10% reduction in target velocity effect per level, 10% racial missile bonus per level.
Role bonus - 95% reduction in Heavy launcher grid, 50% extra AB speed boost.
So say for caldari, a 2 low - 4 mid - 6 high. 4 launchers, 2 utility slots.
Enough grid and cpu to fit a 1mn AB, 4 heavy launchers (with the bonus), and some tackling gear.
The tank would have to be kept minimal on purpose.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2009.04.04 18:09:00 -
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They were called "nanoships" and CCP doesnt want fast cruisers anymore. So only "heavy ceptor" you have left is vagabond.
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rgreat
Gallente
OEG
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.04 18:20:00 -
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Heavy interceptors = Lachesis + Huggin.
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.04 19:49:00 -
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Aren't interdictors pretty much fufilling this role already along with heavy interdictors for something with a tank and infinite point?
 Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Dr Resheph
Amarr
YOU ARE NOW READING THIS LOUDLY
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Posted - 2009.04.04 20:42:00 -
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Here's a hint:
Not EVERY stupid combination you can think of should be turned into a ship class.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.04.04 21:02:00 -
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Why would you want to blur the line where one class ends and another starts?
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.04 21:32:00 -
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Heavy interceptor = heavy interdictor. Phobos with 3x sensor boosters catches just about everything with infinite point, tanks sentry guns nicely too.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.04 21:56:00 -
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Heavy Interceptors are not exactly interdictors, one function of the interceptor is on the interdictor dont get me wrong here, the prvent stuff from getting away. However the rapid reponse function of an interceptor isnt really on either interdictor or heavy interdictor. The ability to respond rapidly to somethign and being to hold them down or keep them occupied until reinforcements arrive would be what hes probably talking about.
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.04.04 22:05:00 -
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Its called the Stabber.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.04 23:11:00 -
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Assault frigs make pretty good "heavy interceptors". They're slower but with a much larger tank and/or EHP.
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Drevar
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Posted - 2009.04.04 23:11:00 -
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I've always wanted to see a Corvette class ship. Problem is finding a role for it that another ship doesn't already perform.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.04.05 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 05/04/2009 00:26:28
Originally by: Roemy Schneider
may i introduce you to the scimitar?
rocks out
you are a SMART MAN :)
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Natasha Torin
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Posted - 2009.04.05 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Resheph
Here's a hint:
Not EVERY stupid combination you can think of should be turned into a ship class.
QFT
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Kateryne
Minmatar
Nisaba Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.05 08:16:00 -
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I agree that not every class needs to be put into the game, but destroyers only have 1 tech2 variant for each hull.
In fact they only have 1 tech1 hull, so i'd definitely like to see some more.
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Serge Aton
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Posted - 2009.04.05 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Serge Aton on 05/04/2009 10:07:41
Heavy assault cruisers role is to assault things and people heavily with high firepower and strong tanks.
Interdictors can still go 5km's and are the next heavy interdictor, can drop bubbles, but not hold things very well.
Heavy interdictor cruisers role is to prohibit movment of enemy ships, a lot of them. Same way as a interceptor only with very heavy points and bubble warp jammers and webs. Same as a interceptor again only without the need for speed. Made to last as long as possible with some of the best tanks in the game. They are the perfect tacklers. Able to stop capital ships from excaping and lasting long enough before help arrives. Being DD proof they are true heavy interceptors. Who needs speed when you have a infinite point and 20km moveable bubble of death with a fleet by your side. They are the soul of why you died at that gate camp.
But they are funny to solo with too.
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
Endemic Aggression
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 14:56:00 -
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interceptor->interdictor->heavy interdictor
Pretty logical there that HIC is actually your heavy interceptor. In my opinion. |
Sebea
Bottomfeeders Science and Research
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Posted - 2009.04.05 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Serge Aton
Edited by: Serge Aton on 05/04/2009 10:07:41
Interdictors can still go 5km's
No, no they can't.
Sorry, but your living in a dream world. ONE interdictor can get close, the Saber, the rest fall pretty far from "5km/s".
Also, even at their speeds (lol Flycatcher) they are pathetically tanked, and often times die when anything looks at them sideways.
TBH, the Heretic is kinda nice, but not really, because of its predictable lifespan in a fight, leaving only the Sabre, as lets be honest, the Galent and Caldari Interdictors are a complete joke.
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses
W A S T E L A N D
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Posted - 2009.04.05 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
They were called "nanoships" and CCP doesnt want fast cruisers anymore. So only "heavy ceptor" you have left is vagabond.
bitter tri member is bitter
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 16:46:00 -
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Sure, buff dictors (well except for Sabre). But we don't need some ridiculous "heavy interceptor" class. CCP nerfed speed for a reason, and thank God they did.
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Xorth Adimus
Caldari
The Perfect Storm
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.04.05 17:48:00 -
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They are called cruisers. They come in various types including T1, HACs and some recons (NOT CALDARI RECONS like some people try lmao). You can also use battlecruisers (nanocane). There are also hics (slow) and dictors (a bit easy to kill even if they fit them with a ninja cloak). If you want a really heavy tackler use a close range battleship; point, MWD, web/disrupt.
 sarcasm over
I think that a new T2 destroyer would be good however it needs a special role:
Ramming destroyer
Bump those snotty station campers off now they cannot be bumped off the larger stations or stop people aligning so damn quickly  (and do some nice damage in the process)!
Infiltrator
Maybe Recon T2 destroyer that can covert cloak, maybe even drop bubbles.
A covert jump drive would be absolutly awesome for ninja raids or have a high warp speed similar to an interceptor. A fast expensive light dictor that can be sneaky or survive being shot at for 5 seconds would be nice.
I love both recons and dictors and a cross over niche ship would be very nice!
Hell I would settle for a HAC/AS type destroyer but that is a bit 'lazy'.
Or maybe we just need sabres at a reasonable price on the market! 
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CHAOS100
Widowmakers
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Posted - 2009.04.05 19:03:00 -
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I like this idea. Maybe but I bet ccp wouldn't have the balls to introduce another fast cruiser.
Speedy cruiser, same speed or slightly slower than inty. Make it weak, non-HAC resists, inty style resists. Firepower not very good. Main focus on speed and tackling.
It would bring in a fast cruiser but not a solopwnmobile one.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
They were called "nanoships" and CCP doesnt want fast cruisers anymore. So only "heavy ceptor" you have left is vagabond.
bitter tri member is bitter
bitter -noone cares about alliance hes from- is bitter coz TRI killed his ratting raven or something
And its not like i ever cared for nano ships. Never used snake set and my fastest ship flown 2,5km/s. Lookit! my fastest ship flies 2km/s now, what a big change...
And its exactly like i said: heavy ceptor = vaga. It always was, is and will be heavy ceptor. Fast, fragile, decent DPS for its size.
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Pboyt
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Posted - 2009.04.05 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
And its exactly like i said: heavy ceptor = vaga. It always was, is and will be heavy ceptor. Fast, fragile, decent DPS for its size.
Yes, you are probably right. But dont you think thats a bit unfair for the eve players? If you want to do that heavy interceptor role you HAVE to train SPECIFICALLY for minmatar? What a bummer...
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2009.04.05 21:19:00 -
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Well minmatar always were about speed. Wheras amarr/gall were armor, caldari shieldtanks minnies alwayssuffered but had highest speeds.
If ya want something vaga-like from other races i guess ya might check t3 ships (heard they have decent speeds). If you exclude those then: zealot is decently fast (2km/s easily, add snake set and you get 2,3kms, overheat for 3,5km/s). Same can be done with ishtar. Caldari... well its caldari ;p They dont have fast cruisers (exception: navy osprey if i remember it correctly).
And ofc navy ships: fleet scythe/stabber are quite fast.
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Kateryne
Minmatar
Nisaba Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.06 23:10:00 -
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I have to agree that making people skill up a different race just access a 'class' of ship is ridiculous.
Sure caldari are the only race with dedicated ECM boats, but E-War in general is used by all races.
I think the existing cruisers that can go fast and tackle are more incidental than an intended move by CCP to make you train that race if you want to make use of that tactic.
Just give CCP time - they are always introducing new ships.
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CrestoftheStars
Caldari
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2009.04.07 03:00:00 -
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would be nice if they where made specifically to take out cruiser sized vessals but didn't have the dmg or tank to destroy a bs.
this could be done by lowering their signature so they would go under the guns of a cruiser, and set their tracking of their guns higher while giving a higher dps, although making them unable to effectively hit drones, thereby making them unable to kill bs's because they would get killed by 5 light drones, (some kind of defends for cruiser drone boats would be needed. (or you could just make them VERY cap dependen, but with enough cap to servive medium neut but with too little to survive large neuts thereby letting the drones kill them of very fast without cap... (i still find it odd that a ship can fit light/medium/heavy weapon system in the same area without any penalty for this, like bringing guns of every size with you, just seems a bit too powerfull).
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Draeca
Tharri and Co.
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Posted - 2009.04.07 04:59:00 -
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Say hello to stabber & vagabond.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.04.07 05:19:00 -
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Stabber, Vaga, Gallente recons, dictors, heavy dictors...
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