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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2009.04.07 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Originally by: The Djego How about wellcome back the ability to PVP without Falcon alts in Low Sec? I personaly looking forward to see this happen again.
Thats prolly gonna be a lot of fun until you notice all the people that actually are fighting and not just getting killed spam a ton of falcons on your flashy gang... if you can call that fighting at all.
Any real engagement of significant size will involve ecm, if you cant use it as a pirate you'll not fare well in those.
Also a lot more ships will be able to counter them, they will have reduced ECM with he same paper Tank at 100km or will come down to about 80km.
Im not saying the Falcon is perfectly ballanced with the changes atm, but would still be that broken if it can work out of Sentry range for both partys so there need to be a point where you start fixing this damn ship.
I also agree that the range on it is still to good for many situations. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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H Lecter
Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.07 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Warrio
Originally by: H Lecter Anyway, we'll adopt and still have our fun
If you tell the adoption agency that's what you have planned I doubt they'll let you have the kid.
LOL, how could that happen to a spelling elitist like me
Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.07 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
Originally by: Atherin Gaius
why shouldn't the falcon jam from 150k? My cerb can hit from 160k. Why shouldn't the falcon be able to jam me? Let's not forget the sniper BS that are flying around....
conviently left out EVERY OTHER EW, which btw also does nothing beond even 70k or somthing.
Indeed, it would be horrible if ewar would actually be used in decent sized gangs. And yea this is my sig. Real PVP'ers only use f1. |
Atari Sakura
Minmatar Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.04.07 14:11:00 -
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4/10 --- This forum is problematic.
Desu Sigs
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.04.07 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III I'll be glad to get out of the ECCMed 240-km Cerb tbh.
I'll be glad to get out the Falcon :)
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Malich Bonhaffer
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Posted - 2009.04.07 17:32:00 -
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A couple of people have brought it up. And I'd like to see some intelligent thoughts on the armor buffer. I haven't done extensive research but aren't the bonuses on the falcon changing to strength bonuses? Seems like you could swap out a couple of the strength mods in the lows with a plate. Stay aligned etc. Not to mention isn't the falcon now going to come with a drone bay? 5 warrior II's from 51k out to go after any small ship coming out too you also seems like a buff. This "nerf" just doesn't seem like the end of the world. Or is the armor buffer just totally out of the question?
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Radcjk
Caldari Failed Diplomacy Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.04.07 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malich Bonhaffer A couple of people have brought it up. And I'd like to see some intelligent thoughts on the armor buffer. I haven't done extensive research but aren't the bonuses on the falcon changing to strength bonuses? Seems like you could swap out a couple of the strength mods in the lows with a plate. Stay aligned etc. Not to mention isn't the falcon now going to come with a drone bay? 5 warrior II's from 51k out to go after any small ship coming out too you also seems like a buff. This "nerf" just doesn't seem like the end of the world. Or is the armor buffer just totally out of the question?
Here is a random thought on the armor buffer... why does a caldari boat have to mount a giant plate to attempt to remain effective ? There is no armor / armor using race in eve where the pilot stops and says "I HAVE to fit an LSE II or this just won't work"
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.04.07 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/04/2009 22:53:17
Originally by: Radcjk Here is a random thought on the armor buffer... why does a caldari boat have to mount a giant plate to attempt to remain effective ? There is no armor / armor using race in eve where the pilot stops and says "I HAVE to fit an LSE II or this just won't work"
Dominix, Brutix, Ishkur, non-dampening Celestis, Harbinger, Vagabond, Phantasm, and almost certainly some other things belonging to armor tanking races or that also have armor-based fittings also have efficient setups that use shield buffers.
But shield and armor tanks, even the buffer types, don't function the same way so it's not really a point to dwell on. People need to make the ship work for them, and it doesn't really matter what race the ship belongs to. If Minmatar can have an array of tank types why can't the others?
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar OVERLOAD. Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.04.07 23:29:00 -
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The logical thing to do would be cutting the ecm strength bonus back to 15%, but that would mean admitting the boost was wrong in the first place...
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aceoalt
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Posted - 2009.04.08 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: aceoalt on 08/04/2009 00:10:29 Edit: how did I manage to blank post? Ugh.
Anyway, yeah I agree with this nerf being unusually small. As I described it to a friend: "The Falcon is gonna be a totally useless ship soon. CCP don't swing the nerf bat, they swing the nerf spike covered wrecking ball."
... Seems reverse psycology works on them!
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