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Neo Omni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:24:00 -
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So EVE does not look right on wide screen monitors. All the circles are ovals. Everything is stretched out instead of being proportional.
Although EVE has a wide screen setting, all it really does is add a black bar on top and bottom of the screen. It's not really wide screen because you still have some stretching.
So can we have true wide screen CCP?
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Taedrin
Gallente
Nabaal Engineering of Haarsuk
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:29:00 -
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Edited by: Taedrin on 06/04/2009 03:32:50
 Originally by: Neo Omni
So EVE does not look right on wide screen monitors. All the circles are ovals. Everything is stretched out instead of being proportional.
Although EVE has a wide screen setting, all it really does is add a black bar on top and bottom of the screen. It's not really wide screen because you still have some stretching.
So can we have true wide screen CCP?
Someone just discovered that EVE's camera uses a fishbowl lens 
It doesn't matter whether you use a wide screen or not. EVE's camera distorts images as if you were looking through a fish bowl, so circles on the edges of the screen look like ovals. If you look at it head on, it should appear more circular, right?
If it doesn't, have you double checked to make sure that you monitor is displaying with the correct aspect ratio?
EDIT: Because wide screens have a larger horizontal to vertical ratio, the "fish bowl" effect is amplified on wide screen resolutions, which may be why you are only noticing it now.
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Thuranni
B and D
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:32:00 -
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What resolution are you playing at?
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:38:00 -
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The EVE universe is best appreciated when sitting about 5cm away from the screen. This is the viewing distance at which the distorted ovals will return to being circles.
As your screen gets wider and wider, you're adding less and less to your actual viewing angle, because an extra 2 inches of screen real estate at that width only adds another 1 degree of viewing angle.
Play EVE at "regular" resolutions instead of widescreen, until CCP get with the program and allow you to specify the field of view that you feel most comfortable with, independently of screen resolution or aspect ratio.
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Neo Omni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Thuranni
What resolution are you playing at?
Playing at 1024x768
I can see the text better at that res.
Yes, I did notice the fishbowl lens...dont know why it's used.
Anyway, what I don't get is if I take a screen shot, my image program shows it at the correct aspect ratio when I paste it.
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eFart
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:41:00 -
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have u instaled on seprate folder
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Baltara
Caldari
Pax Emunio
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:47:00 -
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1024x768 is not a wide screen resolution. Using that res on a widescreen will just strech the images more.
You should use something more like 1440x900. Pick the native resolution of your monitor for the best results.
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wolfbuzz
Gallente
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
Someone just discovered that EVE's camera uses a fishbowl lens
I believe the correct term is "fish eye lens". These are very common in skateboarding and aerial pictures and videos.
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Sparkinator
Gallente
Collegium Mechanicae
Dominus Bellorum
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: eFart
have u instaled on seprate folder
That reply, both in grammatical correctness and usefulness, closely resembles your name.
In regards to the OP: it sounds like you are not playing at the Natural Resolution for your monitor, if it is in fact not really a monitor but an HDTV. I have yet to see any distortion, and have a nice wide screen without "widescreen" enabled. I play at 1360x768 on my 32 inch Toshiba HDTV.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Nabaal Engineering of Haarsuk
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Posted - 2009.04.06 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: wolfbuzz
Originally by: Taedrin
Someone just discovered that EVE's camera uses a fishbowl lens
I believe the correct term is "fish eye lens". These are very common in skateboarding and aerial pictures and videos.
yeah, you are right, I'm wrong. I only remembered that it was fish-something lens. Figured it was bowl. Although any insight as to why CCP decided to go with this would be greatly appreciated, as I've never known myself.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.04.06 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Razin on 06/04/2009 04:00:33
Originally by: Sparkinator
In regards to the OP: it sounds like you are not playing at the Natural Resolution for your monitor, if it is in fact not really a monitor but an HDTV. I have yet to see any distortion, and have a nice wide screen without "widescreen" enabled. I play at 1360x768 on my 32 inch Toshiba HDTV.
Could you post a screenie with some planets/moons at the left and/or right edges of your screen?
I play at 1920x1200, which is the native res for my screen, and I do get the distortion at the edges. I wish CCP would give us the option to turn it off.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Playing at 1024x768
Wait, so you're using a 4:3 resolution on a 16:9/10 screen and you're wondering why things are disproportionate?
Oh god, take me away from this thread.
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Playing at 1024x768
you're doing it wrong
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Eran Laude
Gallente
The Astral Order
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Posted - 2009.04.06 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Neo Omni
Playing at 1024x768
Wait, so you're using a 4:3 resolution on a 16:9/10 screen and you're wondering why things are disproportionate?
Oh god, take me away from this thread.
It occurs at any resolution on a widescreen monitor. Even on my paltry 19" Widescreen I get a horrible fish-eye effect with the alleged "widescreen" option checked or without. It's a real problem.
CCP gief meh teh wiedscrenz :3
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2009.04.06 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Laude
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Neo Omni
Playing at 1024x768
Wait, so you're using a 4:3 resolution on a 16:9/10 screen and you're wondering why things are disproportionate?
Oh god, take me away from this thread.
It occurs at any resolution on a widescreen monitor. Even on my paltry 19" Widescreen I get a horrible fish-eye effect with the alleged "widescreen" option checked or without. It's a real problem.
CCP gief meh teh wiedscrenz :3
If I remember right, the widescreen option just makes some black borders on the top and bottom. making some "cinematic" effect. You should just select the widescreen resolution and dont check the widescreen option, it only takes away your pixels.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2009.04.06 06:13:00 -
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I picked up a nifty Westinghouse 19" LCD monitor the other week. They were on clearance at Target for $99. It's a nifty monitor because it displays non-widescreen resolutions just fine. 1280x1024's text is a bit hard to read but it displays quite nicely. It just has some black bars on either side of the screen. I've never seen this "fish-eye lense" effect in EVE, even with my new monitor. The worst I've had, in fact, is when programs like EVE-Mon and EVE Launcher distort the size of the client and the buttons no longer have their click zones where their images are.
Heh, the last time I saw any sort of "fish-eye" effect was when I was playing Quake 2 and set the Field Of View to around 120 or 130. That definitely makes for some interesting playing.
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Eran Laude
Gallente
The Astral Order
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Posted - 2009.04.06 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Amerilia
Originally by: Eran Laude
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Neo Omni
Playing at 1024x768
Wait, so you're using a 4:3 resolution on a 16:9/10 screen and you're wondering why things are disproportionate?
Oh god, take me away from this thread.
It occurs at any resolution on a widescreen monitor. Even on my paltry 19" Widescreen I get a horrible fish-eye effect with the alleged "widescreen" option checked or without. It's a real problem.
CCP gief meh teh wiedscrenz :3
If I remember right, the widescreen option just makes some black borders on the top and bottom. making some "cinematic" effect. You should just select the widescreen resolution and dont check the widescreen option, it only takes away your pixels.
I know, I leave the widescreen option unchecked because it does nothing useful.
My res is 1440x900 [WS] in EVE, and what I'm saying is that I get that fish-eye effect regardless of whether the widescreen option is on or off. All CCP seems to have done for widescreen monitors, I guess because EVE was developed in the annals of ancient history and WS monitors were far from common in the home at the time, is stretch the 4:3 view to a 16:9/16:10 one. Not up to par, really.
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Kaahles
E3 Corporation
New EVE Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.06 07:15:00 -
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nice circles at 1680x1050 (16:10) here. Guess is you're doing it wrong
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Kulmid
Asshats and Alcoholics
Turbo.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 07:25:00 -
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Firstly I will say, those of you claiming that the widescreen option "cuts of pixels" are incorrect. It actually ADDS to the sides.
Also, I think the fish-eye effect works well in Eve because of the way things are viewed. I think while many of you are asking that the fish-eye effect needs to be taken away, you would miss it if you would because as you moved the view in circles, you'd just be looking at a flat background, not something that is actually all around you.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kulmid
Firstly I will say, those of you claiming that the wide screen option "cuts of pixels" are incorrect. It actually ADDS to the sides.
Uh, no. It adds black borders over and under the image to create a cinematic feel — those borders are not used to display space (but still displays UI), so for that purpose the pixels are cut off (the fact that you can still use them for other purposes is a different matter  ). Either way, it certainly does not add any pixels.
As far as the distinction between wide-screen and normal resolutions go, I'd still say widescreen cuts pixels off. I know my widescreen 1920x1200 monitor shows less pixels than my normal-ratio 1920x1440 monitor…
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Also, I play at 1920x1200 and the icons, UI etc. all are nice circles for me, its just planets and such that become distorted by the fish-eye lens effect.
That's because we're talking about two different things: you're playing at a proper wide-screen resolution, so things are rendered correctly. The OP is using a 4:3 resolution and stretching it out to widescreen, thereby squishing everything out of shape.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.04.06 09:13:00 -
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All ccp need to do is add an option to change the FOV.
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AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar
Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2009.04.06 10:04:00 -
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Successful troll...
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The Wounded
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.04.06 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Originally by: Thuranni
What resolution are you playing at?
Playing at 1024x768
I can see the text better at that res.
Yes, I did notice the fishbowl lens...dont know why it's used.
Anyway, what I don't get is if I take a screen shot, my image program shows it at the correct aspect ratio when I paste it.
if you are using a TFT widescreen use its best resolution.. 1024x768 is a 4:3 resolution, this increases abnormalities in the graphics because the monitor is made for 16:9 resolutions
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2009.04.06 11:22:00 -
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It amazes me the amount of people using a widescreen monitor but not using a widescreen res... what's the point in having one?
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.04.06 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kappas.
It amazes me ... what's the point in having one?
But man, this one goes to 11!
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Grez
Minmatar
Core Contingency
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Posted - 2009.04.06 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Playing at 1024x768
WUT?!
My IQ level has just dropped >:(
You owe me 
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Elisabeth Dakar
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Posted - 2009.04.06 12:44:00 -
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The camera is not a fisheye. a fisheye would preserve circles as circles. The problem is that it is a corrected wide angle. Wide angle lenses always make circles to ovals. The simple solution would be to narrow the FOV.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.04.06 12:49:00 -
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I'll take wide-angle + 'fisheye effect' over narrower FOV and ciclely looking circles.
Also, OP would buy a car and then complain about it going slowly while not knowing how to change gear.
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Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.04.06 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni
Originally by: Thuranni
What resolution are you playing at?
Playing at 1024x768
If you are going to play games on your widescreen monitor you need to figure out what your native resolutions is. Mine is 1680x1050 and when I play full screen I play at that resolution. When I play in windowed mode I play at 1440x900. My Ship Control Panel displays perfect circles, so I am at the correct aspect ratio.
If you are not playing at your native resolution things will look blurry. If you are not playing at the proper aspect ratio, which you are not, then everything will appear squished and oval.
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Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2009.04.06 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kaahles
nice circles at 1680x1050 (16:10) here. Guess is you're doing it wrong
I guess what the OP is talking about is this. 1680x1050 too, and set as 1680x1050 in the settings. Look at the planet on the left, it's an oval.
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