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Drusilla
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Posted - 2004.08.24 18:15:00 -
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Now that assault frigates are out, are they the new kings of PvP frigate vs frigate? Should I skip buying an interceptor and go straight fo an assault ship? Why or why not?
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Drusilla
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Posted - 2004.08.24 18:15:00 -
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Now that assault frigates are out, are they the new kings of PvP frigate vs frigate? Should I skip buying an interceptor and go straight fo an assault ship? Why or why not?
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ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2004.08.24 18:42:00 -
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Well, Interceptors still have the upper hand on speed and smaller signature radius, assault frigs have more fire power and should be a bit tougher...
I guess it will remain to see until they are actually available which class comes out on top... I defenetly look forward to fly some of those new ships as they have some pretty nasty stats...
Your 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I perfectly strikes Sansha's Scavenger, wrecking for 264.3 damage.
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ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2004.08.24 18:42:00 -
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Well, Interceptors still have the upper hand on speed and smaller signature radius, assault frigs have more fire power and should be a bit tougher...
I guess it will remain to see until they are actually available which class comes out on top... I defenetly look forward to fly some of those new ships as they have some pretty nasty stats...
Your 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I perfectly strikes Sansha's Scavenger, wrecking for 264.3 damage.
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.08.24 18:59:00 -
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Completely different animals from the look of it. Assault boats are slower, generally more firepower and tougher, interceptors are substantially faster and slower to lock on to. Assuming similar range/tracking weapons are used I'd say its a case of the assault will win any slugging match but wouldn't be able to catch the interceptor if it doesn't want to fight :-) Of course, it all depends on little things like whether they're using ew, webbers etc etc but the assaults don't seem designed with EW in mind.
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.08.24 18:59:00 -
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Completely different animals from the look of it. Assault boats are slower, generally more firepower and tougher, interceptors are substantially faster and slower to lock on to. Assuming similar range/tracking weapons are used I'd say its a case of the assault will win any slugging match but wouldn't be able to catch the interceptor if it doesn't want to fight :-) Of course, it all depends on little things like whether they're using ew, webbers etc etc but the assaults don't seem designed with EW in mind.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.08.24 19:29:00 -
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As long as you can fit a 10mn a/b on a frig the game will be juiced beyond what was intened!
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.08.24 19:29:00 -
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As long as you can fit a 10mn a/b on a frig the game will be juiced beyond what was intened!
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Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |
Jesilys
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Posted - 2004.08.24 19:39:00 -
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Different beasties, but if you've been around for awhile, you probably have more of the pre-req's for Assaults than you would for the Inty's. Evasive Manuevering 5 is a bit of time-out to train.
Intys will always win with speed, but unless the mass of the assaults is something stupidly high, they'll very likely be mounting MWD's as well, and hitting respectable speeds compared to standard frigates.
The assaults appear to be much better at tanking and taking abuse than anything in their size class. We'll have to see them in action and with fittings for awhile though to determine their survivability, versus other intys and cruiser screens in pitched battle.
"Teach, your alts well, their unskilled hell, will slowly go by..." |
Jesilys
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Posted - 2004.08.24 19:39:00 -
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Different beasties, but if you've been around for awhile, you probably have more of the pre-req's for Assaults than you would for the Inty's. Evasive Manuevering 5 is a bit of time-out to train.
Intys will always win with speed, but unless the mass of the assaults is something stupidly high, they'll very likely be mounting MWD's as well, and hitting respectable speeds compared to standard frigates.
The assaults appear to be much better at tanking and taking abuse than anything in their size class. We'll have to see them in action and with fittings for awhile though to determine their survivability, versus other intys and cruiser screens in pitched battle.
"Teach, your alts well, their unskilled hell, will slowly go by..." |
Jakal
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Posted - 2004.08.24 19:49:00 -
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um, assault frigs are more of an escort ship to protect larger ships from other frigs. which one is better? well keep the ships intended role in mind, don't expect to see assualt ships trying to close on larger to scramble them for the battleships and cruisers like inties. they just don't have the slots or stats to that as well as inties.
-Adapt and Overcome.
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Jakal
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Posted - 2004.08.24 19:49:00 -
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um, assault frigs are more of an escort ship to protect larger ships from other frigs. which one is better? well keep the ships intended role in mind, don't expect to see assualt ships trying to close on larger to scramble them for the battleships and cruisers like inties. they just don't have the slots or stats to that as well as inties.
-Adapt and Overcome.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.08.24 20:31:00 -
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Well put :)
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.08.24 20:31:00 -
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Well put :)
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Diana Merris
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Posted - 2004.08.24 21:03:00 -
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When you factor in thier sig. radius and resists the assault frigates are as tough as a tier 3 cruiser. With an average mass of 2 million they won't be zipping around all that fast but as frigates they can still close with the enemy quickly. Once they do, their job will be to take out the enemy's destroyer/cruiser screen.
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Diana Merris
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Posted - 2004.08.24 21:03:00 -
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When you factor in thier sig. radius and resists the assault frigates are as tough as a tier 3 cruiser. With an average mass of 2 million they won't be zipping around all that fast but as frigates they can still close with the enemy quickly. Once they do, their job will be to take out the enemy's destroyer/cruiser screen.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.08.24 21:12:00 -
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Here's the way i see it...
Interceptor's beat normal frigs because they have more firepower/slots/speed. Interceptors are for scrambling/webbing. They get good damage, and so can be used nicly to beat down normal frigs, or cruisers. It will take more than one to effectivly take down a battleship in pvp (npc is different). The Assualt boat's will wtfpwn normal frigs. I'm guesesing they will be able to straight out tank them with all those resists. Assualt frigs will also beat an inty. One of their roles is to keep the inties off the bigger ships, so they don't get scrambled etc. Assualt frigs are gonna beat tier 1 and 2 cruisers fairly easily, because they will be able to tank light drones and are fast enough to avoid most medium and heavy ones. Tier 3's will be able to beat them with a good anti frig setup though, but normally even those will go down. Assualt frigs, like inties, will be a serious threat to bs in groups. Large guns still won't hit assualt frigs, and i think they will be able to escape missils with mwp. Then shiva will come out and destroyers will show up. Destroyers will rip up all types of frigate, but be slow/big enought that cruisers and bships will be able to hit them easily enough.
The states on the assualt frigs are insane. I'm guessing most inty pilots will fly both inties and assualt, and they will probably become THE agent running ship. I forsee a swing of the nerf bat 0_0
These are just my assumptions from looking at stats, i have never seen an assualt frig fight and can't claim to be a pvp expert.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.08.24 21:12:00 -
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Here's the way i see it...
Interceptor's beat normal frigs because they have more firepower/slots/speed. Interceptors are for scrambling/webbing. They get good damage, and so can be used nicly to beat down normal frigs, or cruisers. It will take more than one to effectivly take down a battleship in pvp (npc is different). The Assualt boat's will wtfpwn normal frigs. I'm guesesing they will be able to straight out tank them with all those resists. Assualt frigs will also beat an inty. One of their roles is to keep the inties off the bigger ships, so they don't get scrambled etc. Assualt frigs are gonna beat tier 1 and 2 cruisers fairly easily, because they will be able to tank light drones and are fast enough to avoid most medium and heavy ones. Tier 3's will be able to beat them with a good anti frig setup though, but normally even those will go down. Assualt frigs, like inties, will be a serious threat to bs in groups. Large guns still won't hit assualt frigs, and i think they will be able to escape missils with mwp. Then shiva will come out and destroyers will show up. Destroyers will rip up all types of frigate, but be slow/big enought that cruisers and bships will be able to hit them easily enough.
The states on the assualt frigs are insane. I'm guessing most inty pilots will fly both inties and assualt, and they will probably become THE agent running ship. I forsee a swing of the nerf bat 0_0
These are just my assumptions from looking at stats, i have never seen an assualt frig fight and can't claim to be a pvp expert.
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.08.24 21:51:00 -
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The Raptor will becomie king!!
Fighting at 20km is gonna be the way to kill the assaults, providing they don't have super range and tracking :P
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.08.24 21:51:00 -
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The Raptor will becomie king!!
Fighting at 20km is gonna be the way to kill the assaults, providing they don't have super range and tracking :P
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2004.08.24 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 24/08/2004 22:47:39
Actually, fighting most Assault Frigates at 20km looks to put you nicely in thier sweet spot.
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2004.08.24 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 24/08/2004 22:47:39
Actually, fighting most Assault Frigates at 20km looks to put you nicely in thier sweet spot.
Kill the enemy, and break their toys. |
Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 24/08/2004 23:23:33
 Originally by: Ranger 1
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 24/08/2004 22:47:39
Actually, fighting most Assault Frigates at 20km looks to put you nicely in thier sweet spot.
...indeed... even the gall ones, wich are usualy blaster boats, can use rails efectivly. Enyo has a range bonus, and the ishkur has drones + 1 med slot, making them both very deadly in their own fields and at range
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 24/08/2004 23:23:33
Originally by: Ranger 1
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 24/08/2004 22:47:39
Actually, fighting most Assault Frigates at 20km looks to put you nicely in thier sweet spot.
...indeed... even the gall ones, wich are usualy blaster boats, can use rails efectivly. Enyo has a range bonus, and the ishkur has drones + 1 med slot, making them both very deadly in their own fields and at range
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Shin Taka
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:26:00 -
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A lot of the assault frigs have optimal range bonuses too, so they will have range, firepower and toughness on their side. They are the defence against interceptors it would seem.
In which case, Assault frigate is a silly name.....
Where interceptors are a scalpel, these things are a mailed fist 
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2004.09.03 00:42:20notifyTraining of the skill Repair Systems lvl 6 has been completed. |
Shin Taka
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:26:00 -
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A lot of the assault frigs have optimal range bonuses too, so they will have range, firepower and toughness on their side. They are the defence against interceptors it would seem.
In which case, Assault frigate is a silly name.....
Where interceptors are a scalpel, these things are a mailed fist
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Keeper of the Wombat
2004.09.03 00:42:20notifyTraining of the skill Repair Systems lvl 6 has been completed. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:27:00 -
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Well, Interceptors still have the upper hand on speed and smaller signature radius, assault frigs have more fire power and should be a bit tougher...
This is correct for all assault frigs except the ridiculously broken and underpowered Retribution, which has the dubious honor of being the only assault ship with less firepower than its interceptor cousin. This added to its single midslot makes it utterly unappealing compared to any other assault frigate.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:27:00 -
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Well, Interceptors still have the upper hand on speed and smaller signature radius, assault frigs have more fire power and should be a bit tougher...
This is correct for all assault frigs except the ridiculously broken and underpowered Retribution, which has the dubious honor of being the only assault ship with less firepower than its interceptor cousin. This added to its single midslot makes it utterly unappealing compared to any other assault frigate.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.08.25 00:04:00 -
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Assaults main advantage in my opinion is their resists, you know what kind of damage lasers are going to do on a ship with 96% thermal and EM resist? Not a whole lot. Their disadvantage is their slow, an inty like a crow will be able to orbit one at 15k and fill it full of missiles. Just might have a hard time killing it.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.08.25 00:04:00 -
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Assaults main advantage in my opinion is their resists, you know what kind of damage lasers are going to do on a ship with 96% thermal and EM resist? Not a whole lot. Their disadvantage is their slow, an inty like a crow will be able to orbit one at 15k and fill it full of missiles. Just might have a hard time killing it.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
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