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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Darklin Eldaris I took about a year off of eve and recently came back as I began to have more free time again. I did however read these forums and scrapheap/etc while away.
I must say that I remain unimpressed with Goonswarm's ability to wait for a guy to press one button and then act as if they had all achieved something great.
A great change may have been effected, but it is nonetheless not of your doing.
One guy at one computer is the only "win" you can claim, if you want to call it that -- I personally think it's quite possibly the lamest way to ever "win" at something that I have ever heard of or experienced in my life.
I have been at odds with BoB and wished great demise upon them for most of my eve career, but I sort of wish that someone had actually "beaten" them first.
I never thought I'd say this but:
Good luck BoB.
Well this is true .... The mighty Goonswarm will never be great if it relies on just one person. Go ride someone else's glory why don't ya. oh wait..... you've done that your whole EVE career. Never done anything by yourselves apart from kill SmashKill even though it cost you a titan. But in truth you didn't even do that on your own.
I bow to your epic stature as the killers of BOB....(did you even take Delve all by yourselves?) .... 
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 07:45:00 -
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Confirming that pressing one button blew up Shrike's avatar, 500 BoB towers, and prevented them undocking anything larger than a HAC in their home region for a month.
and again you did all this by yourselves???? i think not... The trouble is if you and you alone attacked BOB in Delve you could take the credit, but as you did it with help stop claiming your the reason behind Delve falling. And again the only reason it fell is because of 1 man, could you have killed anything without that one man? the answer is NO! get over your ego and start being truthful to yourselves.
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:02:00 -
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Edited by: Lecnor on 08/04/2009 08:05:17
Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy Dude... it was a playing field as even as it gets. Kenzoku didn't have jammers, didn't have jump bridges, didn't have any advantage of sovereignity. But so we didn't.
Their GBC allies were there to fight, and the very last day before the cap fleet got bottled into PR-, in euro primetime they still had a distinctive field advantage in terms of numbers (I hate to drag numbers in a discussion, but damn...).
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Mate i'm not botherd who won or lost its not the issue. Its just that Goonies seem to think they are the reason BOB went under.... you must admit you woulda hit a wall trying to invade Delve without Harrgoth dropping the sov for you? i have no like for either side i am neutral 100% i just like to point out what the guy was saying was right it was one man. Else all this would never have happend. Don't get me wrong when you all moved into Delve yes you killed towers but you also had the chance to attack handed to you on a silver platter. Surely you can see my obvious point. 
Oh and this is just my opinion not that of my corp or alliance..
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:21:00 -
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well the one thing they didn't have was -A- in full force by there side like you guys had TCF RA MM but yeah i can understand what you are saying. When i was in FIX a while back we endured constant war and always brought a fight. But in those days we were pets. As i remember you guys always liked to point out. Even though we paid no rent and voted what we did as an alliance and i know the only reason BOB became stronger was by sucking anything good outta smaller alliance they could bully. As well as moon profit. i have no doubt they deserve to be humiliated but not by people all acting like 5 year old's and not realising that the one factor that saved Goonswarm from loosing space slowly was the Harrgoth incident. Its the defining factor of this turn of events not blowing up 500 towers. 
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy
Originally by: Lecnor Mate i'm not botherd who won or lost its not the issue. Its just that Goonies seem to think they are the reason BOB went under.... you must admit you woulda hit a wall trying to invade Delve without Harrgoth dropping the sov for you? i have no like for either side i am neutral 100% i just like to point out what the guy was saying was right it was one man. Else all this would never have happend. Don't get me wrong when you all moved into Delve yes you killed towers but you also had the chance to attack handed to you on a silver platter. Surely you can see my obvious point. 
Oh and this is just my opinion not that of my corp or alliance..
Yes of course, invading Delve was out of the picture for the short time. Haargoth was certainly the spark for this, and no one is denying it.
I can see your point, but I don't understand why being opportunist and attacking Delve at the best time possible is wrong. Opportunism is one of the biggest moving forces in this game, in PVP, in the market, in industry.
Belive me i'm not complaining about your move into Delve i would have attacked too but it was the one point i was trying to make, he was right saying Harrgoth was the spark if you will.. thats all i was saying :)
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy
Originally by: Lecnor well the one thing they didn't have was -A- in full force by there side like you guys had TCF RA MM but yeah i can understand what you are saying.
Trolling aside, -A- has always been on their own. Evil Thug has always said he only cares about his alliance, and like it or not, he always has done what he thought was best for his alliance. We aren't certainly in a position to order Evil Thug what to do, and what not.
Originally by: Lecnor When i was in FIX a while back we endured constant war and always brought a fight. But in those days we were pets. As i remember you guys always liked to point out. Even though we paid no rent and voted what we did as an alliance and i know the only reason BOB became stronger was by sucking anything good outta smaller alliance they could bully. As well as moon profit. i have no doubt they deserve to be humiliated but not by people all acting like 5 year old's and not realising that the one factor that saved Goonswarm from loosing space slowly was the Harrgoth incident. Its the defining factor of this turn of events not blowing up 500 towers. 
Probably yes, Goons were being ping-ponged back and forth and that was putting a strain. However, we can discuss all day about what could've happened and no one would be right because you simply can't predict what one man will do, and much less you can predict the complex interactions of groups with several thousands members. So at the end, you can only talk about what happens or happened, and leave "what ifs" to fanfiction.
So it is one man??? :P
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy If you want to simplify, yes, it was one man that started it all. The right man at the wrong place can do wonders, as history teaches 
Bloody hell that took ages to get outta you i'm tired
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Darklin Eldaris I must say that I remain unimpressed with Goonswarm's ability to wait for a guy to press one button and then act as if they had all achieved something great.
Confirming that pressing one button blew up Shrike's avatar, 500 BoB towers, and prevented them undocking anything larger than a HAC in their home region for a month.
just that the sarcasm in this post was denying this quote.... and he was just saying it was down to one guy thats all i wasn't arguing one side just that it was a valid point... thats all no hard feelings ..
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 09:59:00 -
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Quote: think you need to train reading comprehension to like level 1 or something. what scatim was saying was it wasnt one guy pushing a butan that caused shrikes avatar to explode over 600 kenny pos it was the nc/tcf/goons that did that.
so really you just picked a fight over something no one even posted about...
Ok whats with the insult i was only trying to say it was the one guy. The PL guy admitted it why can't you? its not hard. I wasn't trying to insult you so there really isn't any need to try to belittle me as thats just a childish response. I have not been in any way accusing you of being stupid have i? if i have then i apologise now. 
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Lecnor
Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 10:12:00 -
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Come on Helen i had you you must admit 
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