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Julia Steaz	Posted - 2009.04.08 02:18:00 - [1] Hulk costs 90 million ISK... and insures for a maximum of 28 million??? Who thought of this insurance system. And then you slap in 2xCargohold Optimization II (800m)... but you can't buy more insurance. I've been away from Eve for five years. Perhaps I'm missing something. Is there a skillbook I have to train to unlock higher insurance amounts?
Anile8er Solstice Systems Development Concourse Aggression.	Posted - 2009.04.08 02:22:00 - [2] Fail Troll.......
Leaving Eve Boo Hoo Federation	Posted - 2009.04.08 02:22:00 - [3] Edited by: Leaving Eve on 08/04/2009 02:28:33
Zelbula	Posted - 2009.04.08 02:26:00 - [4] dude i thought u wanted to keep ur alt a secret...now u just postede it in a link for all to see"!!
Leaving Eve Boo Hoo Federation	Posted - 2009.04.08 02:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Zelbula dude i thought u wanted to keep ur alt a secret...now u just postede it in a link for all to see"!! Was intentional :) you could hold the secret to so many mysteries....
mechtech Entropy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.08 03:57:00 - [6] It's called T2 ships selling for way higher than their base material costs...
The Riddik	Posted - 2009.04.08 04:16:00 - [7] lol, away from the game for 5 years.... ya right troll, lie away
Trustworthy Joe	Posted - 2009.04.08 05:34:00 - [8] Originally by: mechtech It's called T2 ships selling for way higher than their base material costs... you sir, are an idiot for reasons i cant be assed to explain _______________________ with a name as trustworthy as mine, i cant POSSIBLY be an alt Originally by: CCP Navigator I locked this thread BECAUSE OF FALCON
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.04.08 05:35:00 - [9] hulks used to be 500 million and only payed out 24million still. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 6Apr09
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.04.08 06:07:00 - [10] Originally by: Julia Steaz Hulk costs 90 million ISK... and insures for a maximum of 28 million??? Who thought of this insurance system. And then you slap in 2xCargohold Optimization II (800m)... but you can't buy more insurance. I've been away from Eve for five years. Perhaps I'm missing something. Is there a skillbook I have to train to unlock higher insurance amounts? Welcome to T2!

Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.04.08 06:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Trustworthy Joe Originally by: mechtech It's called T2 ships selling for way higher than their base material costs... you sir, are an idiot for reasons i cant be assed to explain Said reason being: he is exactly right
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.04.08 06:35:00 - [12] How did I know this would be a T2 insurance rant/troll? Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Arous Drephius Perkone	Posted - 2009.04.08 07:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Trustworthy Joe Originally by: mechtech It's called T2 ships selling for way higher than their base material costs... you sir, are an idiot for reasons i cant be assed to explain Said reason being: he is exactly right Wrong. T2 insurance is based on their base price - the price of the minerals in it. T2 ships contain components that are completely player driven, and have prices a lot higher than their base price. You can't say that the materials sell for "more than their base material cost" because their price is entirely driven by what people are willing to pay. If you don't like not being able to fully insure T2 ships, don't fly them.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.04.08 07:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Arous Drephius Wrong. T2 insurance is based on their base price - the price of the minerals in it. T2 ships contain components that are completely player driven, and have prices a lot higher than their base price. No, you're wrong. Do the math. Those components are also included at base price. But THOSE components cost a lot more than their base price. Then, you have invention costs, and invented blueprint manufacture waste which further compound the issue. Quote: You can't say that the materials sell for "more than their base material cost" because their price is entirely driven by what people are willing to pay. And yet, those materials all DO have a base price in CCP's database. You know, just saying... it's not like the end result isn't the same either way, but if you insist on spelling it right, at least do so. _ The problem with EVE \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.08 09:18:00 - [15] Base prices: Tritanium - 1 Pyerite - 4 Mexallon - 16 Isogen - 64 Nocxium - 256 Zydrine - 1024 Megacyte - 4096 The payout for 100% insurance is is the total base cost of the minerals involved, plus the price of the insurance. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.04.08 09:21:00 - [16] How can it be... EVE has only been around for 4 years.... la la... -

cyclop07	Posted - 2009.04.08 10:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Chribba How can it be... EVE has only been around for 4 years.... la la... its been 5 years mate. really.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.04.08 10:49:00 - [18] Originally by: cyclop07 Originally by: Chribba How can it be... EVE has only been around for 4 years.... la la... its been 5 years mate. really. Your face and your palm. They need to meet. Very quickly. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Obidom Jax	Posted - 2009.04.08 10:53:00 - [19] Casn I have your stuff then? meh who insures stuff? I got so much isk and minerals i just buy new stuff
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.08 11:47:00 - [20] Originally by: cyclop07 Originally by: Chribba How can it be... EVE has only been around for 4 years.... la la... its been 5 years mate. really. It'll be six next month... Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

Ikserak tai	Posted - 2009.04.08 15:56:00 - [21] Eve insurance is for noobs who would be financially devastated for losing their t1 ship due to their noobness, and softens the blow so they can get another ship quick, wipe away the sniffles, and undock again albeit a bit wiser. Other than that, having more comprehensive insurance in Eve is like underwriting combat vehicles during wartime. Rates would be astronomical and no one would buy it. High-sec dwellers don't really need it, and everything else is equivalent to a war zone. Even an average Hulk pilot can generate 28m in 4-5 hrs mining in high-sec, and afterward you can go anywhere you want with a big bullseye painted on your hull and save the insurance premium. YOU'VE NEVER ROCKED 'TIL YOU'VE UNDOCKED.
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.08 17:14:00 - [22] I've been playing EVE for 8 years...yeah that's right, 8 or 12 years now. Anyhoo, yes the insurance doesn't jive with the actual value of the ship. Insurance should include the year, make and model of the ship as well as how many miles/kilometers you have put on it and any parking violations/concord speeding tickets you may have.
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.04.08 17:45:00 - [23] my hulks pay out 145m in insurance. i actually just make my isk by self destructing them in jita true story. --
Julia Steaz	Posted - 2009.04.09 06:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Arous Drephius If you don't like not being able to fully insure T2 ships, don't fly them. Great logic. Now that we know why you don't work for a gaming company... Anyone else care to make a suggestion?
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.04.09 09:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Julia Steaz Originally by: Arous Drephius If you don't like not being able to fully insure T2 ships, don't fly them. Great logic. Now that we know why you don't work for a gaming company... Anyone else care to make a suggestion? Erm, everyone who flies T2? T2 ships are superior in every way to their t1 variants. If insurance was modified so that the effective cost was the same as T1 (ie: approximately zero) then anyone who could fly T2 would never buy T1. Given that the supply of t2 is limited, the net price would then rise until it reached what people are prepared to pay. Which is exactly what has already happened. tl;dr: l2economics.
Glengrant TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.09 09:16:00 - [26] It's actualy a nice way to grade the death penalty. Relative noobs flying T1 ships with T1 mods won't loose that much money isk when fully insured. More veteran pilots who choose the best equipment risk a higher death penalty. Looks like good game design to me. I like. --- Save the forum: Think before you post. ISK BUYER = LOSER EVE TV- Bring it back! Laptop, NVidia7900GS, Ubuntu 8.04, WINE


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