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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 15:23:09 i posted this in known issues and workarounds but it didn't get the attention it needed...sorta. so i'll try it here.
I have the new ATI X800 Radeon Pro and i've been having alot of problems
for starters WHAT THE HELL IS THIS VPU RECOVER??? every 5 minutes my game(s) keep crashing to desktop prompting me to send this VPU recover ERROR?! I know what your gonna say Well OmegaNutts just shut the dam thing off! right? wrong! when you shut this option off your game now freezes? WTF!
I've downloaded the latest drivers from ATI and i've even tryed a older driver version and still VPU problems?
Second problem! FATAL ERROR'S!!?? now i'm not a computer wiz but when this window pops up and says that i know something is seriuosly wrong not only that but either my game will freeze up or restart itself? once my computer reboots a window pops up statiing something like "there was a unexpected shutdown because there was a serious problem with (a bunch of numbers would go here)
this topic doesn't entirely involve Eve-Online cause this happens with all my highly demanding memory,CPU and Video sucking games (DOOM III, HitMan: Contracts and Eve-Online)
heres my system specs:
P4 3.2ghz 800mhz L2 Cache 1024mb Dual DDR4 Corsair Pro's w/heat shield and LED 120gb HD Western Digital 7200 rpm 8mb Cache MSI Neo-2 Platium Edition mobo ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256mb DDR 8x AGP 6.1 onboard surround sound
PLEASE HELP!! ANYONE!!
i'm just wondering if its because the Video card is so new that most games don't support it yet? that and the right driver hasn't come out yet that will fix these problems.
Also i'm waiting on the Windows XP SP2 to come out. hopeing that will fix most of the problems
/me cross's fingers
is anyone else haveing these problems with this card while playing Eve-Online?
HELP!! ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 15:23:09 i posted this in known issues and workarounds but it didn't get the attention it needed...sorta. so i'll try it here.
I have the new ATI X800 Radeon Pro and i've been having alot of problems
for starters WHAT THE HELL IS THIS VPU RECOVER??? every 5 minutes my game(s) keep crashing to desktop prompting me to send this VPU recover ERROR?! I know what your gonna say Well OmegaNutts just shut the dam thing off! right? wrong! when you shut this option off your game now freezes? WTF!
I've downloaded the latest drivers from ATI and i've even tryed a older driver version and still VPU problems?
Second problem! FATAL ERROR'S!!?? now i'm not a computer wiz but when this window pops up and says that i know something is seriuosly wrong not only that but either my game will freeze up or restart itself? once my computer reboots a window pops up statiing something like "there was a unexpected shutdown because there was a serious problem with (a bunch of numbers would go here)
this topic doesn't entirely involve Eve-Online cause this happens with all my highly demanding memory,CPU and Video sucking games (DOOM III, HitMan: Contracts and Eve-Online)
heres my system specs:
P4 3.2ghz 800mhz L2 Cache 1024mb Dual DDR4 Corsair Pro's w/heat shield and LED 120gb HD Western Digital 7200 rpm 8mb Cache MSI Neo-2 Platium Edition mobo ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256mb DDR 8x AGP 6.1 onboard surround sound
PLEASE HELP!! ANYONE!!
i'm just wondering if its because the Video card is so new that most games don't support it yet? that and the right driver hasn't come out yet that will fix these problems.
Also i'm waiting on the Windows XP SP2 to come out. hopeing that will fix most of the problems
/me cross's fingers
is anyone else haveing these problems with this card while playing Eve-Online?
HELP!! ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:26:00 -
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Fatal Errors are usually a sign that you need to upgrade your PSU or that you have Large System Cache enabled.
VPU Recover is, I think, fixed by turning off Fast Writes in your BIOS.
You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2 here.
Note: Onboard sound sound seems to be a consistent issue with Eve - I tried using my onboard nForce sound and it kept crashing Eve.
The X800's are not worth buying, imo. They're so fast and powerful that you need to spend a lot of money on the rest of your system or it'll just hold it back.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:26:00 -
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Fatal Errors are usually a sign that you need to upgrade your PSU or that you have Large System Cache enabled.
VPU Recover is, I think, fixed by turning off Fast Writes in your BIOS.
You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2 here.
Note: Onboard sound sound seems to be a consistent issue with Eve - I tried using my onboard nForce sound and it kept crashing Eve.
The X800's are not worth buying, imo. They're so fast and powerful that you need to spend a lot of money on the rest of your system or it'll just hold it back.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:27:00 -
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Oh, and doublecheck to make sure your AGP is really set to 8x.
ATI drivers have lately been resetting mine to "2x" whenever I install fresh drivers.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:27:00 -
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Oh, and doublecheck to make sure your AGP is really set to 8x.
ATI drivers have lately been resetting mine to "2x" whenever I install fresh drivers.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:27:00 -
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Hard to say for certain but my first guess is you have serious cooling issues. In short, your system is overheating.
There are a number of ways to help with that but for starters try turning all of the graphical enhancements off on your video card. Turn of Antialiasing, Anisotropic filtering, reduce resolution to the minimum for EVE and anything else you can think of. This may or may not help as the x800 runs toasty anyway but by lowwering all these settings you lower the work the card does thus lowering its temperature. Doesn't hurt to give it a try for testing purposes.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:27:00 -
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Hard to say for certain but my first guess is you have serious cooling issues. In short, your system is overheating.
There are a number of ways to help with that but for starters try turning all of the graphical enhancements off on your video card. Turn of Antialiasing, Anisotropic filtering, reduce resolution to the minimum for EVE and anything else you can think of. This may or may not help as the x800 runs toasty anyway but by lowwering all these settings you lower the work the card does thus lowering its temperature. Doesn't hurt to give it a try for testing purposes.
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:29:00 -
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i can help out on the VPU recover. its a clever jobbie that ATI put into the cards. basicaly if your card runs into problems (overheating generaly) it reboots the GPU. normaly if this happens on a normal card the prog you are using closes down. with VPU recover it doesnt, the game keeps going (well it sohuld).
now why ou are getting this problem i dont know, what temp is the card running at?? it looks like you have a very high end system, so i would hope that you have adequate cooling in the case for the kit you have in there. cooling being big heatsinks, as well as inlet and exaust fans.
as for the other errors you are experencing, i cant help there. with that spec your computer should have NO problems running the likes of Doom3 and such. so it possibly a driver issue. try getting in touch with ATI, thir customer service used to be **** but i hear its alot better now :) -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |
Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:29:00 -
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i can help out on the VPU recover. its a clever jobbie that ATI put into the cards. basicaly if your card runs into problems (overheating generaly) it reboots the GPU. normaly if this happens on a normal card the prog you are using closes down. with VPU recover it doesnt, the game keeps going (well it sohuld).
now why ou are getting this problem i dont know, what temp is the card running at?? it looks like you have a very high end system, so i would hope that you have adequate cooling in the case for the kit you have in there. cooling being big heatsinks, as well as inlet and exaust fans.
as for the other errors you are experencing, i cant help there. with that spec your computer should have NO problems running the likes of Doom3 and such. so it possibly a driver issue. try getting in touch with ATI, thir customer service used to be **** but i hear its alot better now :) -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:34:00 -
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Quote: PSU or that you have Large System Cache enabled.
what is PSU? and how do i disable my Large System Cache?
Quote: Note: Onboard sound sound seems to be a consistent issue with Eve - I tried using my onboard nForce sound and it kept crashing Eve.
sweet! i knew it thx m8
Quote: The X800's are not worth buying, imo. They're so fast and powerful that you need to spend a lot of money on the rest of your system or it'll just hold it back
well i did pretty much biuld my Computer around the X800, is my computer not strong enough for this vid card?
Quote: You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2
its already out!!?? SWEET!
thx m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:34:00 -
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Quote: PSU or that you have Large System Cache enabled.
what is PSU? and how do i disable my Large System Cache?
Quote: Note: Onboard sound sound seems to be a consistent issue with Eve - I tried using my onboard nForce sound and it kept crashing Eve.
sweet! i knew it thx m8
Quote: The X800's are not worth buying, imo. They're so fast and powerful that you need to spend a lot of money on the rest of your system or it'll just hold it back
well i did pretty much biuld my Computer around the X800, is my computer not strong enough for this vid card?
Quote: You can download the full release of Windows XP SP2
its already out!!?? SWEET!
thx m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mon Palae Hard to say for certain but my first guess is you have serious cooling issues. In short, your system is overheating.
There are a number of ways to help with that but for starters try turning all of the graphical enhancements off on your video card. Turn of Antialiasing, Anisotropic filtering, reduce resolution to the minimum for EVE and anything else you can think of. This may or may not help as the x800 runs toasty anyway but by lowwering all these settings you lower the work the card does thus lowering its temperature. Doesn't hurt to give it a try for testing purposes.
my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mon Palae Hard to say for certain but my first guess is you have serious cooling issues. In short, your system is overheating.
There are a number of ways to help with that but for starters try turning all of the graphical enhancements off on your video card. Turn of Antialiasing, Anisotropic filtering, reduce resolution to the minimum for EVE and anything else you can think of. This may or may not help as the x800 runs toasty anyway but by lowwering all these settings you lower the work the card does thus lowering its temperature. Doesn't hurt to give it a try for testing purposes.
my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Inanna Sumer
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron ... my CPU runs at 136 degrees ...
i hope for your CPU's sake that's in fahrenheit...
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Inanna Sumer
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron ... my CPU runs at 136 degrees ...
i hope for your CPU's sake that's in fahrenheit...
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Oh, and doublecheck to make sure your AGP is really set to 8x.
ATI drivers have lately been resetting mine to "2x" whenever I install fresh drivers.
really? i'll have to check on that. btw i have all my settings on deffault application controlled, is that good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Oh, and doublecheck to make sure your AGP is really set to 8x.
ATI drivers have lately been resetting mine to "2x" whenever I install fresh drivers.
really? i'll have to check on that. btw i have all my settings on deffault application controlled, is that good? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Inanna Sumer
Originally by: OmegaTron ... my CPU runs at 136 degrees ...
i hope for your CPU's sake that's in fahrenheit...
yes it is ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Inanna Sumer
Originally by: OmegaTron ... my CPU runs at 136 degrees ...
i hope for your CPU's sake that's in fahrenheit...
yes it is ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
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Procion
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Procion on 25/08/2004 16:16:01 48c for your graphics card is fine ,most x800's run at 40-50c your motherboard needs a bios update for it to properly detect your CPU temp's.
your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
for further help you might want to register at the www.rage3d.com forum's its the main ATI fansite and the ATI dev's do post there in the ati catalyst driver forum.
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Procion
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Procion on 25/08/2004 16:16:01 48c for your graphics card is fine ,most x800's run at 40-50c your motherboard needs a bios update for it to properly detect your CPU temp's.
your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
for further help you might want to register at the www.rage3d.com forum's its the main ATI fansite and the ATI dev's do post there in the ati catalyst driver forum.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good?
I assume you went Celsius, Fahrenheit, Celsius on me with those numbers above because if that second number is in Celsius I'd say you have major issues .
That 136 if Fahrenheit = ~58 Celsius which is not bad at all. Athlon CPUs for instance tolerate 80-90 C (not sure about Intel but doubtless it is higher than 60 C although you may want to look it up). According to ATI the x800 runs into trouble at 100 C where actual damage may start occuring. Of course they set the thresholds for the card to save itself a good bit below 100 C as a result.
However, are those idle temps or are those temps what you get when banging away in games?
- Check running temp under full load.
- Check where your thresholds are set for the systems to shutdown to avoid damage (mobo, vid card).
- Turn off Overdrive on the video card if it is on. For that matter if you are overclocking anything stop it and fall back to normal settings. Once stable then think of maybe overclocking.
- Make sure your BIOS for your motherboard is up-to-date. Go here: Motherboard Links for starters.
- Check your BIOS settings as relates to your video card. AGP Turbo Mode disabled, Primary Frame Buffer or VGA Frame Buffer disabled, AGP 1x/2x/4x set appropriately (you may want to ry 4x for testing), AGP Aperature at Default or 64MB
Note the BIOS settings are just for testing. Once the system is stable it may well work better with different settings. You can go back and turn things up (turbo, 4x to 8x, etc.) one at a time and see what effect it has. If stability is lost then you know where to back off.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaTron my tower Temp is 27 degrees , my CPU runs at 136 degrees and my Video card runs at 48 degrees. is that good?
I assume you went Celsius, Fahrenheit, Celsius on me with those numbers above because if that second number is in Celsius I'd say you have major issues .
That 136 if Fahrenheit = ~58 Celsius which is not bad at all. Athlon CPUs for instance tolerate 80-90 C (not sure about Intel but doubtless it is higher than 60 C although you may want to look it up). According to ATI the x800 runs into trouble at 100 C where actual damage may start occuring. Of course they set the thresholds for the card to save itself a good bit below 100 C as a result.
However, are those idle temps or are those temps what you get when banging away in games?
- Check running temp under full load.
- Check where your thresholds are set for the systems to shutdown to avoid damage (mobo, vid card).
- Turn off Overdrive on the video card if it is on. For that matter if you are overclocking anything stop it and fall back to normal settings. Once stable then think of maybe overclocking.
- Make sure your BIOS for your motherboard is up-to-date. Go here: Motherboard Links for starters.
- Check your BIOS settings as relates to your video card. AGP Turbo Mode disabled, Primary Frame Buffer or VGA Frame Buffer disabled, AGP 1x/2x/4x set appropriately (you may want to ry 4x for testing), AGP Aperature at Default or 64MB
Note the BIOS settings are just for testing. Once the system is stable it may well work better with different settings. You can go back and turn things up (turbo, 4x to 8x, etc.) one at a time and see what effect it has. If stability is lost then you know where to back off.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Procion your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
Excellent point. That occurred to me too but i forgot to mention it. I'd say a 400 Watt PSU minimum. 450 Watt if you like a bit of headroom on the system. 350 Watt will probably get most people by. 300 Watt or lower I'd expect problems.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Procion your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
Excellent point. That occurred to me too but i forgot to mention it. I'd say a 400 Watt PSU minimum. 450 Watt if you like a bit of headroom on the system. 350 Watt will probably get most people by. 300 Watt or lower I'd expect problems.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 16:30:01
Quote: now why ou are getting this problem i dont know, what temp is the card running at?? it looks like you have a very high end system, so i would hope that you have adequate cooling in the case for the kit you have in there. cooling being big heatsinks, as well as inlet and exaust fans.
its a brand new computer. i have 3 case fans and 1 cpu fan with copper heatsink. everything is tempature controlled. Case is 27'C, CPU is 53'C, System temp. is 42'C and Graphics Proccessor is 46'C ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaTron on 25/08/2004 16:30:01
Quote: now why ou are getting this problem i dont know, what temp is the card running at?? it looks like you have a very high end system, so i would hope that you have adequate cooling in the case for the kit you have in there. cooling being big heatsinks, as well as inlet and exaust fans.
its a brand new computer. i have 3 case fans and 1 cpu fan with copper heatsink. everything is tempature controlled. Case is 27'C, CPU is 53'C, System temp. is 42'C and Graphics Proccessor is 46'C ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Procion Edited by: Procion on 25/08/2004 16:16:01 48c for your graphics card is fine ,most x800's run at 40-50c your motherboard needs a bios update for it to properly detect your CPU temp's.
your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
for further help you might want to register at the www.rage3d.com forum's its the main ATI fansite and the ATI dev's do post there in the ati catalyst driver forum.
450watt power supply i have. and thx for the link m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.25 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Procion Edited by: Procion on 25/08/2004 16:16:01 48c for your graphics card is fine ,most x800's run at 40-50c your motherboard needs a bios update for it to properly detect your CPU temp's.
your PSU might not be powerful enough (PSU = power supply unit) what watt is it rated at? if that was my system i would have built it with a 400+ wat psu.
for further help you might want to register at the www.rage3d.com forum's its the main ATI fansite and the ATI dev's do post there in the ati catalyst driver forum.
450watt power supply i have. and thx for the link m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
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