EVE Search - Military Veterans requesting non-aggression pacts.

All Channels

Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions

Military Veterans requesting non-aggression pacts.

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 :: [one page]
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 17:53:00 - [1] The Multinational Military Coalition is seeking non-aggression pacts with any alliance, corporation or player willing to assist us in our goals. A little bit about who we are: The Multinational Military Coalition is corporation composed entirely of men and women who have served in the armed forces. Originally conceived by both current and former members of the US military, the MMC offers membership to military members from any nation freely and does not condone political discrimination. Our primary goal is to establish a friendly, 100% neutral, PVE-centric, Industrial focused corporation for disabled combat veterans, and other military personnel. Our secondary goal is to promote EVE Online to soldiers worldwide who may be new to the MMO genre, as well as offer a social community to military members currently serving in deployed locations. How you can help our purpose: Our corporation establishes non-aggression pact's as part of it's 100% neutrality policy with as many individuals, corporations, and alliances as possible. These pacts specifically help our disabled veterans who may otherwise have a more difficult time playing in some of the unruly regions of EVE by providing them with a small bit of security. Since many of our veterans suffer disabilities that phsycially hinder them from navigating EVE's UI as quickly as most eve pilots, these pacts help to ensure that these disabled veterans will be given the extra time they need to travel through otherwise hostile systems. By creating a network of neutral corporations and pilots who have agreed not to bother the MMC's members in low-security and 0.0 systems these veterans can take the extra minute or two they need, due to their disabilities, to get them from point A to B. Non-aggression pacts have also been used as a show of respect to the members of the MMC as a way of saying "we thank you for your service". How to create a pact with us: If you would like to help support the MMC in their dream of becoming 100% neutral please write Eizmund Drohner via EVEmail so we can establish a non-aggression pact with you, your corporation, or your alliance. Anyone that is willing to help us with this venture can request peacetime assistance from our members and will be greatly appreciated for their willingness to assist us in our goals. A Final Note: The MMC realizes that corporations and alliances may be willing to help us in our venture but do not wish for us to "intrude" on their mineral belts or rats within certain systems. If this is the case, once a pact has been created please let us know of any restrictions regarding specific systems that you control, preferrably by EVEmail, so that our members can be informed. Thank you for taking the time to read through this, and we look forward to hearing from those willing to help us in this venture. ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove." - Dropkick Murphys
Teschan Amarr Quam Singulari PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.09 17:58:00 - [2] I don't understand - you're dreaming of being 100% neutral but looking for blues? Odd. Good luck anyway. crockp0t's C4w3 Rap Beat Extravaganza: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0902/C4w3_Rap_Beat_Extravaganza.mp3
Tobruk Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.09 17:59:00 - [3] good luck, I hope you reach your goal. ---------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
Saltire Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:02:00 - [4] how many disabled veterans play eve? 2? 3? good idea tbh but isk wont buy new legs.
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:08:00 - [5] Edited by: Eizmund Drohner on 09/04/2009 18:09:43 To answer the questions thus far: In order to stay neutral we do not support the wars of those who give us "blue" status. That said, we will however, upon request, support peacetime operations of these corporations. to answer saltire's question: A lot more than you'd imagine, and thank you for virtually spitting on those of us (regardless of your country) who protect your very right to do so with your comments. I might also add that the MMC isnt requesting a single isk from any corporation just non-aggression pacts. ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove." - Dropkick Murphys
Svetlanna Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:13:00 - [6] Originally by: Saltire how many disabled veterans play eve? 2? 3? good idea tbh but isk wont buy new legs. Jeark
Lucifer demon Caldari Purify United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:23:00 - [7] Outstanding and noble idea ! As a Vet and present member of the reserves in the US I thank you for your plan. Many of the kids and tools in this game would probably find it funny to hunt you down so plan on sharpening your PvP skills. I would suggest to my allaince a NAP but our space is pretty hot right now. Best of luck !
Kurik Chryllos Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner Edited by: Eizmund Drohner on 09/04/2009 18:09:43 to answer saltire's question: A lot more than you'd imagine, and thank you for virtually spitting on those of us (regardless of your country) who protect your very right to do so with your comments. How do you know Saltire was never in the military? I would imagine a majority don't run around seeking attention.
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Lucifer demon Outstanding and noble idea ! As a Vet and present member of the reserves in the US I thank you for your plan. Many of the kids and tools in this game would probably find it funny to hunt you down so plan on sharpening your PvP skills. I would suggest to my allaince a NAP but our space is pretty hot right now. Best of luck ! Thank you for your forum support. We hope that you and your alliance will keep us in mind once things have settled down in your regions of space. It is unfortunate that those same "kids and tools" you speak of could ultimately one day be the downfall of a community just trying to help their fellow pilots but we are fully aware that this could happen. ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove." - Dropkick Murphys
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:44:00 - [10] I didn't realize that US military playing a video game would be composed of pacifistic sissies. Care to comment?
Lucifer demon Caldari Purify United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:48:00 - [11] Originally by: Vile rat I didn't realize that US military playing a video game would be composed of pacifistic sissies. Care to comment? Case in point.......
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:50:00 - [12] Originally by: Lucifer demon Originally by: Vile rat I didn't realize that US military playing a video game would be composed of pacifistic sissies. Care to comment? Case in point....... They are attempting to abuse their veteran status to get benefits in a video game. I find this disgusting and manipulative.
PatherD Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:02:00 - [13] Originally by: Vile rat They are attempting to abuse their veteran status to get benefits in a video game. I find this disgusting and manipulative. Sounds like you are talking about yourselves and yet you show another reason why ALL GOONS SHOULD DIE RIFS - Order Thread Recruitment
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:07:00 - [14] No Vile, I would rather not digress this thread into a bickering battle over how our corporate mindset or game play differs from yours. The MMC has choosen to take this neutral position after extensive discussions with our members. Our position is based on our secondary goal of offering fellow soldiers who otherwise may not have played EVE, or possibly any other MMO for that matter a launching point in the world of EVE. The MMC also offers these same folks a community of fellow soldiers to talk with, share stories and learn the basic aspects of gameplay from. Should our pilots find that they want to pursue PVP, they are welcome to leave our corp and pursue these aspects of gameplay at anytime. I would imagine, based on our members attitudes, and the attitudes of those currently holding a pact with us, that any pilot who does leave will likely join (or attempt to join) one of the various corporations that offer us these pacts. ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove." - Dropkick Murphys
Two Knives Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:09:00 - [15] Edited by: Two Knives on 09/04/2009 19:12:27 i was on da fence bout dis corp at first but it's prob good if all the irl murderers are in the same place
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:10:00 - [16] dont want to be shot, don't leave empire, simple~
Dark Motoko Caldari Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:11:00 - [17] Edited by: Dark Motoko on 09/04/2009 19:13:06 Originally by: Eizmund Drohner The Multinational Military Coalition is seeking non-aggression pacts with any alliance, corporation or player willing to assist us in our goals. A little bit about who we are: The Multinational Military Coalition is corporation composed entirely of men and women who have served in the armed forces. Originally conceived by both current and former members of the US military, the MMC offers membership to military members from any nation freely and does not condone political discrimination. Our primary goal is to establish a friendly, 100% neutral, PVE-centric, Industrial focused corporation for disabled combat veterans, and other military personnel. Our secondary goal is to promote EVE Online to soldiers worldwide who may be new to the MMO genre, as well as offer a social community to military members currently serving in deployed locations. How you can help our purpose: Our corporation establishes non-aggression pact's as part of it's 100% neutrality policy with as many individuals, corporations, and alliances as possible. These pacts specifically help our disabled veterans who may otherwise have a more difficult time playing in some of the unruly regions of EVE by providing them with a small bit of security. Since many of our veterans suffer disabilities that phsycially hinder them from navigating EVE's UI as quickly as most eve pilots, these pacts help to ensure that these disabled veterans will be given the extra time they need to travel through otherwise hostile systems. By creating a network of neutral corporations and pilots who have agreed not to bother the MMC's members in low-security and 0.0 systems these veterans can take the extra minute or two they need, due to their disabilities, to get them from point A to B. Non-aggression pacts have also been used as a show of respect to the members of the MMC as a way of saying "we thank you for your service". How to create a pact with us: If you would like to help support the MMC in their dream of becoming 100% neutral please write Eizmund Drohner via EVEmail so we can establish a non-aggression pact with you, your corporation, or your alliance. Anyone that is willing to help us with this venture can request peacetime assistance from our members and will be greatly appreciated for their willingness to assist us in our goals. A Final Note: The MMC realizes that corporations and alliances may be willing to help us in our venture but do not wish for us to "intrude" on their mineral belts or rats within certain systems. If this is the case, once a pact has been created please let us know of any restrictions regarding specific systems that you control, preferrably by EVEmail, so that our members can be informed. Thank you for taking the time to read through this, and we look forward to hearing from those willing to help us in this venture. I think this is a fine idea and will be happy to assist. I'll be in touch on behalf of the Vanguard to arrange blue standings for you. I may also have some useful information on 0.0 areas you can use. As for Vile Rat, try to remember that the way you play does not dictate the way others should.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:13:00 - [18] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner No Vile, I would rather not digress this thread into a bickering battle over how our corporate mindset or game play differs from yours. The MMC has choosen to take this neutral position after extensive discussions with our members. Our position is based on our secondary goal of offering fellow soldiers who otherwise may not have played EVE, or possibly any other MMO for that matter a launching point in the world of EVE. The MMC also offers these same folks a community of fellow soldiers to talk with, share stories and learn the basic aspects of gameplay from. Should our pilots find that they want to pursue PVP, they are welcome to leave our corp and pursue these aspects of gameplay at anytime. I would imagine, based on our members attitudes, and the attitudes of those currently holding a pact with us, that any pilot who does leave will likely join (or attempt to join) one of the various corporations that offer us these pacts. No you are asking people to grant you special status based off of your out of game personas. This is the video game equivalent of wearing your uniform to traffic court in order to get out of a speeding ticket or trollin for freebies around town. It's disgraceful and insulting.
Desiderata Fabian Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:13:00 - [19] Why couldn't you try to form a group for all disabled players and not make it some weird single profession thing? Out of interest what is your position on PMCs? Or other quasi military organizations?
BurnedCoronas Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Tobruk good luck, I hope you reach your goal. ^^
Genuinely Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:24:00 - [21] Military types and battle veterans you say? Does being a virtual General and a battered old forum warrior count?
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:27:00 - [22] For starters let me just say that its starting to appear as though goonswarm is a bitter bunch of folks. In regards to Desiderata Fabian who so far has been the only Goonswarm pilot to actually ask a non-hostile question: The MMC will recruit players currently employed by private military agencies on a per case basis. All recruitment of these players is voted on by current members. At present however we do not have any players that fall into this category in our corporation. For Dark Motoko: Thank you - we look forward to hearing from you in game and appreciate your assistance! ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove." - Dropkick Murphys
Desiderata Fabian Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:34:00 - [23] Edited by: Desiderata Fabian on 09/04/2009 19:37:22 Originally by: Eizmund Drohner In regards to Desiderata Fabian who so far has been the only Goonswarm pilot to actually ask a non-hostile question: The MMC will recruit players currently employed by private military agencies on a per case basis. All recruitment of these players is voted on by current members. At present however we do not have any players that fall into this category in our corporation. I thank you sir, I will be applying to join soon. I find it hard to play EVE ever since my arm got clipped by a 5.56 when I was launching my RPG at one of your Abrams M1s. We don't have the medical facilities you guys have, but it's nice that I can join your space corp. Edit: Originally by: Eizmund Drohner from any nation freely and does not condone political discrimination.
Tirk Umpat Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:40:00 - [24] Edited by: Tirk Umpat on 09/04/2009 19:40:41 I roleplay a wounded combat veteran. With tourettes.
squishinator Gallente Fear Inc	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:44:00 - [25] Originally by: Desiderata Fabian Edited by: Desiderata Fabian on 09/04/2009 19:37:22 Originally by: Eizmund Drohner In regards to Desiderata Fabian who so far has been the only Goonswarm pilot to actually ask a non-hostile question: The MMC will recruit players currently employed by private military agencies on a per case basis. All recruitment of these players is voted on by current members. At present however we do not have any players that fall into this category in our corporation. I thank you sir, I will be applying to join soon. I find it hard to play EVE ever since my arm got clipped by a 5.56 when I was launching my RPG at one of your Abrams M1s. We don't have the medical facilities you guys have, but it's nice that I can join your space corp. Edit: Originally by: Eizmund Drohner from any nation freely and does not condone political discrimination. I once shot a goat ( at least I think that what it was ) that fired an round of RPG at my M2 Bradly, hope it's not U, just in case it was, how was the arm ? Btw, it wasn't a 5.56 from a M16, it was actual a .50 cal from a M2.
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:51:00 - [26] Edited by: Eizmund Drohner on 09/04/2009 19:53:00 Originally by: Desiderata Fabian Edited by: Desiderata Fabian on 09/04/2009 19:37:22 Originally by: Eizmund Drohner In regards to Desiderata Fabian who so far has been the only Goonswarm pilot to actually ask a non-hostile question: The MMC will recruit players currently employed by private military agencies on a per case basis. All recruitment of these players is voted on by current members. At present however we do not have any players that fall into this category in our corporation. I thank you sir, I will be applying to join soon. I find it hard to play EVE ever since my arm got clipped by a 5.56 when I was launching my RPG at one of your Abrams M1s. We don't have the medical facilities you guys have, but it's nice that I can join your space corp. Edit: Originally by: Eizmund Drohner from any nation freely and does not condone political discrimination. If I could believe you were telling the truth and we're not just bashing us than we'd be happy to have you. That said, should you be telling the truth than I am sorry to hear that your arm was clipped by friendly fire considering that most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. As stated - any Nation's military. We will not recruit terrorists, but those who have fought in their nations military are welcome to apply provided that they do not hold or express any hostility or grudges against other members and the service that they have performed for their respective countries. ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove." - Dropkick Murphys
Lucifer demon Caldari Purify United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.09 19:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner Edited by: Eizmund Drohner on 09/04/2009 19:53:00 If I could believe you were telling the truth and we're not just bashing us than we'd be happy to have you. That said, should you be telling the truth than I am sorry to hear that your arm was clipped by friendly fire considering that most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. As stated - any Nation's military. We will not recruit terrorists, but those who have fought in their nations military are welcome to apply provided that they do not hold or express any hostility or grudges against other members and the service that they have performed for their respective countries. It is normally a safe bet not to believe a Goon. If I were you I might consider re-naming your Corp, and then contacting different alliances/corps individually as many of the children who frequent the game will probably wardec and hunt you.
steveid Amarr Killed In Action The Firm.	Posted - 2009.04.09 20:01:00 - [28] trouble with a post like this is it paints a big target on you. Kinda hard to be neutral when your getting curb stomped
Desiderata Fabian Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 20:04:00 - [29] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner If I could believe you were telling the truth and we're not just bashing us than we'd be happy to have you. That said, should you be telling the truth than I am sorry to hear that your arm was clipped by friendly fire considering that most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. As stated - any Nation's military. We will not recruit terrorists, but those who have fought in their nations military are welcome to apply provided that they do not hold or express any hostility or grudges against other members and the service that they have performed for their respective countries. But sir, that was my nations military... at least it was at the time. Please don't turn down my application, I can entertain you with stories of the time I spent putting down all the villages during the pro-democracy uprisings... The trick is ya just don't lead em so much! Ain't war hell?
Marcus Riegn Minmatar Blue Team	Posted - 2009.04.09 20:09:00 - [30] My first thought was that this must be a very elaborate troll, I'm starting to think you might actually be serious, which I gotta tell you doesn't bode well for your ambitions... You are in effect trapped in the largest monkey cage ever constructed, and there's not enough food to go around, it's hundreds of thousands of inhabitants form up into gigantic troop's to beat each other senseless over meager resources. Neutrality is in effect impossible, because as soon as you build anything, someone else is going to want it for themselves, and no one's going to stop them from taking it, unless you yourself take up arms, or failing that bring in mercenaries to handle it. And even if no one wants your stuff someone else will probably come after you anyway for the sheer unadulterated hell of it. Welcome to EvE.
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 20:11:00 - [31] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner If I could believe you were telling the truth and we're not just bashing us than we'd be happy to have you. That said, should you be telling the truth than I am sorry to hear that your arm was clipped by friendly fire considering that most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. As stated - any Nation's military. So the British Army uses what ammo calibre in these rifles then?
Shane Darman Gallente Order of Nephilim Scalar Federation	Posted - 2009.04.09 20:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Helen Originally by: Eizmund Drohner If I could believe you were telling the truth and we're not just bashing us than we'd be happy to have you. That said, should you be telling the truth than I am sorry to hear that your arm was clipped by friendly fire considering that most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. As stated - any Nation's military. So the British Army uses what ammo calibre in these rifles then? I bolded the important part for you
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 20:19:00 - [33] Originally by: Shane Darman Originally by: Helen Originally by: Eizmund Drohner If I could believe you were telling the truth and we're not just bashing us than we'd be happy to have you. That said, should you be telling the truth than I am sorry to hear that your arm was clipped by friendly fire considering that most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. As stated - any Nation's military. So the British Army uses what ammo calibre in these rifles then? I bolded the important part for you i'm not here to read im here to post
Shane Darman Gallente Order of Nephilim Scalar Federation	Posted - 2009.04.09 20:20:00 - [34] I should have known better
Gixxer 1000 Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.04.09 20:56:00 - [35] Good luck with your adventure, although I doubt it will come about. And once again, I got to see more Goons being jerks. How about that? Go figure...
Apokolypse Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.04.09 21:05:00 - [36] As a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom 1 @ 2 with the 82nd airborne infantry, I find this to be offensive. I served with men and women that lost their lives and limbs in combat. These men (and women for non infantry) would not want their sacrifice exploited in a video game so that a few people who think because they served they are entitled special rights. Your post and idea in general is disrespectful to the majority of service men and women who dont go around looking for special treatment in everything they do.
Private Piyal Gallente Federal Noob Mercs	Posted - 2009.04.09 21:26:00 - [37] wtf don't give him crap, some womens group do this special status stuff all the time in games, why can't veterans get in on the action?
Apokolypse Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.04.09 21:32:00 - [38] There is a big difference between womens groups and playing on the sympathy people have for disabled veterans. I dont agree with it for the reasons already stated, thats my opinion and I am entitled to it, if you dont agree, you are entitled to yours as well.
Hinkledolph Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse death from above..	Posted - 2009.04.09 21:35:00 - [39] This is PVP game. Stay out of low sec and all will be well.
Havecandy Getinvan Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 21:35:00 - [40] I open my house over holidays to members of my brother's group who are home and can't see their families due to distance. I put them up, feed them, give them the run of my Cable (Internet and TV), my vehicles, pool, whatever they want that they would normally have enjoyed with their families. This is what I do for our vets. Setting you blue feels like pitching a handful of quarters into the street in front of a vet who's begging for bus fare to get home on.
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 21:39:00 - [41] Edited by: Eizmund Drohner on 09/04/2009 21:39:41 Apokolypse - I too served 2 seperate Deployments in Operation Iraqi Freedom and have seen plenty of things that I will not discuss. This entire post is by no means meant to "exploit" veterans. It is simply to create a high-sec based community that can help fellow military members who wish to try out the game of eve and in doing so - cater to those military members - both active and retired who suffer disabilities both physical and mental due to their time in the military. We are not looking to try and gain "special" privledges from the corporations that we are asking assistance from nor are we telling them they must join us or they're wrong. We're simply attempting to create the EVE Onlne equivalent of a US Legion Post. If you personally think that the concept of a Legion Post is immoral, disgusting and wrong, then that is your own oppinion and you are entitled to it. It is those exact same posts however that help out their local troops just as we are trying to do here. ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove." - Dropkick Murphys
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 22:01:00 - [42] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner Edited by: Eizmund Drohner on 09/04/2009 21:39:41 It is simply to create a high-sec based community that can help fellow military members who wish to try out the game of eve and in doing so - cater to those military members - both active and retired who suffer disabilities both physical and mental due to their time in the military. We are not looking to try and gain "special" privledges from the corporations that we are asking assistance from nor are we telling them they must join us or they're wrong. We're simply attempting to create the EVE Onlne equivalent of a US Legion Post. If you personally think that the concept of a Legion Post is immoral, disgusting and wrong, then that is your own oppinion and you are entitled to it. It is those exact same posts however that help out their local troops just as we are trying to do here. Quote: By creating a network of neutral corporations and pilots who have agreed not to bother the MMC's members in low-security and 0.0 systems these veterans can take the extra minute or two they need, due to their disabilities, to get them from point A to B. Non-aggression pacts have also been used as a show of respect to the members of the MMC as a way of saying "we thank you for your service". You are lying. Also way to beg for sympathy and credit about your real life issues in a video game. This is supposed to be for escapism not part of your VA benefits package.
Corsa Grane Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 22:14:00 - [43] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner Edited by: Eizmund Drohner on 09/04/2009 21:39:41 Apokolypse - I too served 2 seperate Deployments in Operation Iraqi Freedom and have seen plenty of things that I will not discuss. This entire post is by no means meant to "exploit" veterans. It is simply to create a high-sec based community that can help fellow military members who wish to try out the game of eve and in doing so - cater to those military members - both active and retired who suffer disabilities both physical and mental due to their time in the military. We are not looking to try and gain "special" privledges from the corporations that we are asking assistance from nor are we telling them they must join us or they're wrong. We're simply attempting to create the EVE Onlne equivalent of a US Legion Post. If you personally think that the concept of a Legion Post is immoral, disgusting and wrong, then that is your own oppinion and you are entitled to it. It is those exact same posts however that help out their local troops just as we are trying to do here. maybe that would be a good comparison if the legions asked for their stuff for free instead of paying for it like everybody else are you just naturally unable to make comparisons or did your reasoning ability get blown off by an ied
Scatim Helicon Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 22:23:00 - [44] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner Non-aggression pacts have also been used as a show of respect to the members of the MMC as a way of saying "we thank you for your service". "If you don't set us blue you hate freedom and support terrorists!"
Private Piyal Gallente Federal Noob Mercs	Posted - 2009.04.09 22:33:00 - [45] Originally by: Apokolypse There is a big difference between womens groups and playing on the sympathy people have for disabled veterans. There is no difference between women groups playing sympathy, special status card and a disabled or veteran group, same thing. So why is people give veteran group a hard time but no one ever give womens group hard time? let the veterans alone, help them out.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.09 22:47:00 - [46] this thread is going places
Havohej Minmatar KHM Corporation Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.04.09 22:50:00 - [47] Originally by: Private Piyal Originally by: Apokolypse There is a big difference between womens groups and playing on the sympathy people have for disabled veterans. There is no difference between women groups playing sympathy, special status card and a disabled or veteran group, same thing. So why is people give veteran group a hard time but no one ever give womens group hard time? let the veterans alone, help them out. Fact of the matter is, if they really want to be highsec-based and neutral, they don't NEED nap's with anybody, least of all 0.0 space holding alliances. The goons in this thread are right. The guy's playing the "Iraq War Vet" card to try and get a free pass in a video game. I don't think my old man at Ft. Gordon would approve. vOv Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
Chucky Caldari HEAVEN'S DEATH DEALER'S V.I.R.A.L.	Posted - 2009.04.09 22:53:00 - [48] I am just stunned by this thread! As a war vet myself I don't ask or expect special treatment. When I feel the stress of 0.0 I go back to empire. I better stop before I type something stupid. ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Mathias Skillius Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:00:00 - [49] I don't "get" it.
Verone Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:02:00 - [50] Edited by: Verone on 09/04/2009 23:06:06 I'm kind of in minor shock here that I'm agreeing with Goons, but I have to say even though their wording is harsh, they're right. People make a choice to play Eve, it's their own decision, and they do so knowing they'll be competing against a broad scope of players from all walks of life, some of whom will be able bodied and mentally sound, and some of whom won't be. I've heard of people playing Eve with one arm, missing fingers, people playing with motor neurone syndome, down's syndrome, asperger's syndrome and all sorts of mental and social disorders. I suffer from one on the most volatile forms of BiPolar disorder known, myself. That makes life as a CEO pretty difficult at times. I still remember a conversation between two guys in a well known alliance, that I heard of. It holds water in relation to this topic : FC > Why aren't you on vent? FC > Get on vent when you're in a fleet. GANG MEMBER > Yeah, OK, 2 secs. I have to install it. Gang member logs into Vent, several minutes pass... FC > Why aren't you speaking on Vent? FC > I'm talking to you! GANG MEMBER > I'm deaf, you idiot. FC > Then learn to type faster. While I'm perfectly fine with any social group teaming up in Eve because of like minded goals and enjoyment of being with people similar to them, I don't feel that ANYONE should have preferential treatment. Before anyone feels the need to have a go, know that I'm both a fundraiser for the NSPCC, and an advocate and fundraiser for Help for Heroes, despite not agreeing with the reasoning for our country having troops in the middle east. Just about every day in the UK you hear news stories of young men and women coming home with their limbs blown off who're learning to walk, go back to work, and live normal lives on prosthetics. Some of them are gearing up to run MARATHONS just over a year after they've lost their legs in service. At first I thought "hey, that's a pretty good idea", but after some thought and reading the responses here I see people's point and see this as a weak attempt at gaining positive standings through manipulation of emotion if I'm perfectly honest. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice idea, but you'd have been much better off just opening the corp, advertising for members and providing help for people who're ex-servicemen to get into the game and enjoy it to the fullest. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Totally Slick Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:15:00 - [51] how could you shot my internet spaceship i'm just a kid
Webb Mordock Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:22:00 - [52] Are you guys the same military corp that I stole that control tower and modules from a few months back? I'm genuinely curious.
Headwires Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:23:00 - [53] Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 09/04/2009 23:06:06 asperger's syndrome in my eve? never!
Uzec Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:31:00 - [54] Edited by: Uzec on 09/04/2009 23:31:00 I support your alliance in its' efforts for war vets. I think the people in this thread trolling the op when decent men have lost their lives fighting for their cause is a disgrace and you people make me sick. Have you no sense of decency or honor? I lost my brother during 9/11 attacks. He was on one of the planes that hit the towers. I also lost a cousin during the fighting in Fallujah in Iraq. They were both heros. My cousin in his last stand was believed to have taken out 9 infidel soldiers and an infidel medic before he was killed by a helicopter. They are sitting up there with allah in the promised land with their 47 virgins sippin' mojitos. Allah Akbar. الله أكبر.
Major Buttache Amarr Coded Arms Coded Arms Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:32:00 - [55] Goons have Valid Point, but RUIN IT by being Asshats Shocker!!!!!!
CaptainAttitude Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:33:00 - [56] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. quote] Except that ALL M16's and M4's use them. Oh, and SAW's use them too. As a matter of fact, 5.56 is known as NATO standard. Odd really... You are a damn idiot, and I don't see how it would be possible to be in the US military and not know that the US military is ****ing SWIMMING in 5.56. Stop lying, you're not in any goddamn military. I was in the army for 11 years, fyi.
Kurik Chryllos Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:33:00 - [57] You mean he was flying the plane?
Uzec Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:34:00 - [58] Originally by: Kurik Chryllos You mean he was flying the plane? You need to be on the plane to be flying it. vv
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 23:51:00 - [59] Originally by: CaptainAttitude Originally by: Eizmund Drohner most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. quote] Except that ALL M16's and M4's use them. Oh, and SAW's use them too. As a matter of fact, 5.56 is known as NATO standard. Odd really... You are a damn idiot, and I don't see how it would be possible to be in the US military and not know that the US military is ***ing SWIMMING in 5.56. Stop lying, you're not in any goddamn military. I was in the army for 11 years, fyi. My apologies - at the time of writing that statement I was on vicodin and relatively stressed at the job site. Since your likely to try and burn me personally for the above statement, in my defense it is currently prescribed to me for my broken hand. Regardless, Kurik Chryllos is actually partially correct in his statment as, yes actually i was in a plane on both tours. My AFSC is a 1A3 (Airborne Comm.),as such my time spent there was served for the most part onboard an aircraft. So once again I do apologize for the mistake made above and I do agree that the 5.56 is the military's standard "issue" - that is unless your aircrew. Regardless - we never meant for this idea to become such a heated topic, nor did we mean to create any sort of hostility here. It is for that reason that we are shutting down any and all efforts to try this idea in eve. Those that have created NAP's are welcome to uphold them with us, and we are thankful for your support, however we have now decided to shut down actively seeking them. This post has shown us that actively seeking these may not be in the best interest of our current or future memberbase. - To that end thank you for showing us another side of what we were trying to initiate. ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove."* - Dropkick Murphys
Uzec Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.10 00:01:00 - [60] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner Originally by: CaptainAttitude Originally by: Eizmund Drohner most of the US military is not issued 5.56mm rounds. quote] Except that ALL M16's and M4's use them. Oh, and SAW's use them too. As a matter of fact, 5.56 is known as NATO standard. Odd really... You are a damn idiot, and I don't see how it would be possible to be in the US military and not know that the US military is ****ing SWIMMING in 5.56. Stop lying, you're not in any goddamn military. I was in the army for 11 years, fyi. My apologies - at the time of writing that statement I was on vicodin and relatively stressed at the job site. Since your likely to try and burn me personally for the above statement, in my defense it is currently prescribed to me for my broken hand. Regardless, Kurik Chryllos is actually partially correct in his statment as, yes actually i was in a plane on both tours. My AFSC is a 1A3 (Airborne Comm.),as such my time spent there was served for the most part onboard an aircraft. So once again I do apologize for the mistake made above and I do agree that the 5.56 is the military's standard "issue" - that is unless your aircrew. Regardless - we never meant for this idea to become such a heated topic, nor did we mean to create any sort of hostility here. It is for that reason that we are shutting down any and all efforts to try this idea in eve. Those that have created NAP's are welcome to uphold them with us, and we are thankful for your support, however we have now decided to shut down actively seeking them. This post has shown us that actively seeking these may not be in the best interest of our current or future memberbase. - To that end thank you for showing us another side of what we were trying to initiate. now u know wat it is 2 be owned
britishfish Minmatar Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.04.10 01:31:00 - [61] Originally by: Marcus Riegn You are in effect trapped in the largest monkey cage ever constructed, and there's not enough food to go around, it's hundreds of thousands of inhabitants form up into gigantic troop's to beat each other senseless over meager resources. Neutrality is in effect impossible, because as soon as you build anything, someone else is going to want it for themselves, and no one's going to stop them from taking it, unless you yourself take up arms, or failing that bring in mercenaries to handle it. And even if no one wants your stuff someone else will probably come after you anyway for the sheer unadulterated hell of it. Welcome to EvE. best description off eve so far
penifSMASH Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.10 01:42:00 - [62] My uncle died serving in Iraq. He was one of Allah's warriors in Muqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army. I will hunt you down to the ends of New Eden and avenge his death, you INFIDEL SWINE. God is Great. Mohammed is the one true prophet.
Manfred Sideous Amarr H A V O C Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.04.10 01:45:00 - [63] To the OP if your organization is truly what you claim it to be then awesome good for you guys. Goons - You never cease to amaze. Please either kill off BOB or Die already. The game is so over you please stop existing ASAP. <3 Manny ______________________________
SavageBastard Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.10 02:44:00 - [64] Originally by: Eizmund Drohner Edited by: Eizmund Drohner on 09/04/2009 18:09:43 To answer the questions thus far: In order to stay neutral we do not support the wars of those who give us "blue" status. That said, we will however, upon request, support peacetime operations of these corporations. Goonswarm is working very hard to reestablish peace and order in the Delve region and secure our borders from eastern incursions. You guys are welcome to come down here and enforce the Haargoth Accords. Quote: to answer saltire's question: A lot more than you'd imagine, and thank you for virtually spitting on those of us (regardless of your country) who protect your very right to do so with your comments. I might also add that the MMC isnt requesting a single isk from any corporation just non-aggression pacts. Actually my country's veterans largely fought to oppress those who would speak their minds. Hope this helps.
Eizmund Drohner Gallente Multinational Military Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.10 02:54:00 - [65] I've stated our intentions and how this thread has affected our corporation. That said, I am hereby leaving this post and requesting this post be closed. believe it or not, we do thank you all for your input regarding this matter. ------------------------------------------------ "When there's nothing on the horizon, you've got nothing left to prove." - Dropkick Murphys
Havohej Minmatar KHM Corporation Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.04.10 03:46:00 - [66] I love when people make a stab at getting something for nothing or otherwise make a stupid post and then just delete it like it never happened so that the mods will come along and lock it for not having any content in the OP. Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
Totally Slick Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:06:00 - [67] Edited by: Totally Slick on 10/04/2009 11:06:16 In case you missed the original post Quote: Military Veterans requesting non-aggression pacts. A little bit about who we are: The Multinational Military Coalition is corporation composed entirely of men and women who have served in the armed forces. Originally conceived by both current and former members of the US military, the MMC offers membership to military members from any nation freely and does not condone political discrimination. Our primary goal is to establish a friendly, 100% neutral, PVE-centric, Industrial focused corporation for disabled combat veterans, and other military personnel. Our secondary goal is to promote EVE Online to soldiers worldwide who may be new to the MMO genre, as well as offer a social community to military members currently serving in deployed locations. How you can help our purpose: Our corporation establishes non-aggression pact's as part of it's 100% neutrality policy with as many individuals, corporations, and alliances as possible. These pacts specifically help our disabled veterans who may otherwise have a more difficult time playing in some of the unruly regions of EVE by providing them with a small bit of security. Since many of our veterans suffer disabilities that phsycially hinder them from navigating EVE's UI as quickly as most eve pilots, these pacts help to ensure that these disabled veterans will be given the extra time they need to travel through otherwise hostile systems. By creating a network of neutral corporations and pilots who have agreed not to bother the MMC's members in low-security and 0.0 systems these veterans can take the extra minute or two they need, due to their disabilities, to get them from point A to B. Non-aggression pacts have also been used as a show of respect to the members of the MMC as a way of saying "we thank you for your service". How to create a pact with us: If you would like to help support the MMC in their dream of becoming 100% neutral please write Eizmund Drohner via EVEmail so we can establish a non-aggression pact with you, your corporation, or your alliance. Anyone that is willing to help us with this venture can request peacetime assistance from our members and will be greatly appreciated for their willingness to assist us in our goals. A Final Note: The MMC realizes that corporations and alliances may be willing to help us in our venture but do not wish for us to "intrude" on their mineral belts or rats within certain systems. If this is the case, once a pact has been created please let us know of any restrictions regarding specific systems that you control, preferrably by EVEmail, so that our members can be informed. Thank you for taking the time to read through this, and we look forward to hearing from those willing to help us in this venture.
Shinma Apollo Caldari Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:57:00 - [68] Complete junk. I've helped buddies out with all kinds of stuff while they're on tour, stayed up and done my best to get em fights while they're at a comp, but playing the "we're veterans, blue us!" card has to be a worse cash-grab than the dude who was using his ceo's death as a titan financing project. Look mate, thanks for your service, but it's a video game, bring in rl stuff as a reason for special treatment is silly and presumptuous. Guys, no one wardec me, I'm jewish. If you do you're third reich germans and I'll call the anti-defamation league on you. Originally by: CCP Mitnal Let's not go near moderation discussion. However, if the excuse involved role-playing Zorro, this did get full marks for creativity
ElrondMD Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.10 12:13:00 - [69] Just leave him alone, i think he's got the point.

Pages: 1 2 3 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.