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Vincent Gaines
Tau Online Explorator Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.10 11:20:00 -
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It's been 4 months
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Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.10 13:03:00 -
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Last mirror: 2009-03-05
mhm ?
60D GTC - shattared link |
Exec Rev
Rum Dum
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Posted - 2009.04.10 15:41:00 -
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/agreed |
Matthew97
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.10 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Matthew97 on 10/04/2009 16:08:09 Need new mirror *now*
Originally by: Kalintos Tyl Last mirror: 2009-03-05
mhm ?
Date when the mirror was deployed: February 9th 2009 - Monday. Mhm?
/agree (again)
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Matthew97
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.10 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Matthew97 on 10/04/2009 16:07:42 Forum Lag
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Vincent Gaines
Tau Online Explorator Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.10 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew97 Edited by: Matthew97 on 10/04/2009 16:08:09 Need new mirror *now*
Originally by: Kalintos Tyl Last mirror: 2009-03-05
mhm ?
Date when the mirror was deployed: February 9th 2009 - Monday. Mhm?
/agree (again)
actually what I was referring to was:
Date when the copy was made: January 22nd 2009 - Thursday
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Morpheus Madd
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Posted - 2009.04.11 03:04:00 -
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I agree, i just made an account and i can't wait to use the test server but i can't do that until the mirror the test server again. If the current mirror is 4 months out of date i think it's time to mirror again... At your convenience of course CCP.
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SonoA
Gallente Yakiya Tovil-Toba Revange
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Posted - 2009.04.11 03:53:00 -
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In the first week of March there has been several 'restores' in a period of 2-4 days. So the current mirror is little of 6 weeks old.
I just started building SuperCaps on SiSi. I and my none-paying costumers would very much like to see their completion before the next mirror :)
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.04.11 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Singularity Mirrors
This is a FAQ thread to explain the what, why, how and when of Singularity mirrors.
General information:
Q: What is a mirror? A: A mirror is a copy of the database that is running on the Tranquility server. It includes account and character information, such as skills, assets, implants etc, as well as any other database information, such as contracts, outposts etc.
Q: What is it good for? A: A mirror is used by both CCP's QA department and EVE players to conduct testing in an environment as close to the live environment as possible. This means that alterations to the mirror are kept to a minimum.
Q: When is a new mirror deployed on Singularity? A: When the testing cycle requires a clean dataqbase copy. This usually happens prior to the release of patches and expansions, so that testers and players can run tests in an environment closest to what the live server would look like after the patch release. Another case when a fresh mirror is required is when major gameplay changes need to be playtested by a large number of users.
Q: How is a mirror made? A: First, a copy of the Tranquility database is made by CCP's Operations department. This copy is then moved on the Singularity network, where QA Deployment will start customizing it for use on the test server (see below). The copying operation takes about 7 hours.
Q: How is a mirror on Singularity different from TQ? A: The main differences are that all starbases are removed and moon mineral resources are scrambled, to prevent scouting on the test server of assets on the live server. Other differences and modifications are listed below:
* ETC accounts are edited so that they do not expire when the ETC payment runs out. * All accounts are voice enabled. * Agent memory is removed (standings and loyalty points). * S&I jobs are removed (this is done in order to prevent starbase S&I jobs from being stuck when starbases are removed). * The market is seeded so that all market items cost 100 ISK and are in plentiful supply. At least one station per constellation is market seeded like this. * Other adjustments for our internal use.
This process can take at least half a day. The whole mirroring process can take up to 2 days.
Note the lack of "because I want to play on SiSi" and the fact it is a 2 day job.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Morpheus Madd
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Posted - 2009.04.11 11:40:00 -
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I'm aware that the mirroring process can take 2 days, but it's still a job that should be done. There are four months worth of new accounts that are not currently available (mine included :( ...) and older players who would like to start on the test server but don't have any developed characters available. It would be appreciated if CCP would make a new mirror so that we can get started.
That said, i'm really not expecting a mirror for a few weeks so i guess i lose anyways.
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Melanie Miss
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Posted - 2009.04.11 14:52:00 -
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Yeah, please make a new mirror on SiSi!
If not now, can you please tell us when to expect a new mirror?
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Alex Raptos
Caldari The Firestorm Millennium
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Posted - 2009.04.11 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Melanie Miss Yeah, please make a new mirror on SiSi!
If not now, can you please tell us when to expect a new mirror?
Whenever there is a substantial amount of content changes and / or new content that needs bug tested.
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Volucer S
Noob Fight Club Noob Fleet
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Posted - 2009.04.11 17:37:00 -
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I want the new mirror!!!
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Jack Snack
Caldari Polish Task Forces
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Posted - 2009.04.11 18:22:00 -
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/signed Never outnumbered, never outgunned |
Nyota Sol
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.04.11 18:51:00 -
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A new mirror on SiSi would be nice for those of us who aren't high SP characters, but i don't expect one unless CCP have good reason to go through that process. ___________________________________________
Lost in Space - Apocrypha Exploration Resources |
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.11 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Morpheus Madd I'm aware that the mirroring process can take 2 days, but it's still a job that should be done.
What SHOULD be done is a decision of CCP directors. Not you. -- Thanks CCP for cu |
Jack Snack
Caldari Polish Task Forces
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Posted - 2009.04.11 20:35:00 -
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I think CCP should make a list of SiSi users, and update their accounts more often...
How many players uses SiSi? You don't have to copy whole 20Tb of data (or whatever the database weights) - just necessary stuff. Never outnumbered, never outgunned |
ZinderX500
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.12 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Snack I think CCP should make a list of SiSi users, and update their accounts more often...
How many players uses SiSi? You don't have to copy whole 20Tb of data (or whatever the database weights) - just necessary stuff.
This.
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.12 07:11:00 -
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Agreed, new mirror is needed. Missing something like 2M SP and sadly, those would be in t3 cruisers and cov ops, the very things that need the most testing. I'm trying to get those skills on sisi, but it's taking a bit of time.
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Zarthanon
Random Acts of Violence
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Posted - 2009.04.12 07:33:00 -
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It's amazing how many people think they NEED things... you guys WANT a mirror...
I like pie. |
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Melanie Miss
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Posted - 2009.04.12 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zarthanon It's amazing how many people think they NEED things... you guys WANT a mirror...
Yeah, we really really WANT it.. So we keep this thread alive with any means neccessary:)
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Vincent Gaines
Tau Online Explorator Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.12 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zarthanon It's amazing how many people think they NEED things... you guys WANT a mirror...
yep, because in those few months I trained skills that are relevant to the changes currently being looked at on sisi.
so yeah, it's a want.
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Matthew97
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.12 21:46:00 -
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We want a mirror, we want a mirror!
Ok anyways as said if we did have a mirror there will be alot more people able to test the new stuff (T3)
Add to the list of Pros and Cons!
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Spacedye Vest
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Posted - 2009.04.12 22:02:00 -
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/signed
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Fredrick Engly
Chaos From Order Manifest Destiny.
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Posted - 2009.04.12 22:57:00 -
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/signed
bumpty bump bump bump
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Lady Aja
Caldari Demented Unity
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Posted - 2009.04.13 11:08:00 -
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no mirror is needed till they need to test some stuff..
you guys shoulda done loing skill trains.. I my self am 500k sp behind on sisi...
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Vincent Gaines
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.04.13 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 13/04/2009 11:19:56
Originally by: Lady Aja no mirror is needed till they need to test some stuff..
test stuff like this?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1025327
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1037660
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1038488
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1038754
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Nyota Sol
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.04.13 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Aja no mirror is needed till they need to test some stuff..
you guys shoulda done loing skill trains.. I my self am 500k sp behind on sisi...
Newer characters still get kinda screwed, but I still keep SP training going on SiSi as best i can to continue doing testing. I new mirror would "update" me considerably, but the bottom line is that anybody wanting to seriously do testing needs to regularly train there as well. ___________________________________________
Lost in Space - Apocrypha Exploration Resources |
Lady Aja
Caldari Demented Unity
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Posted - 2009.04.13 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Gaines Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 13/04/2009 11:19:56
Originally by: Lady Aja no mirror is needed till they need to test some stuff..
test stuff like this?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1025327
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1037660
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1038488
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1038754
trust me its beign tested alright lol...
how a more balanced rook/falcon can jam a ship with 27 radar str, makes me go hmmm a fair amount lol...
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.15 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nyota Sol
Originally by: Lady Aja no mirror is needed till they need to test some stuff..
you guys shoulda done loing skill trains.. I my self am 500k sp behind on sisi...
Newer characters still get kinda screwed, but I still keep SP training going on SiSi as best i can to continue doing testing. I new mirror would "update" me considerably, but the bottom line is that anybody wanting to seriously do testing needs to regularly train there as well.
It would also be very handy since we now have skill queues to relax the 1 day rule on SiSi so those of us interested in testing but likely to not be on it as much as TQ can mirror our desired skill plans on there.
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