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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 07:23:23
Originally by: shwarzkauph eve pirates kills ppl for no reason. They dont request ransom or steal stuff like real pirates would. They kill ppl and get their satifaction from the death of someone else. how is it fun to sit at a gate for hours and hours and ambush ppl who cannot fight you back? I was playing my 3 day old alt and I was in a shuttle. Shuttle have no weapons, no nothing that you could profit from. WHy attack me? I would like any rat to explain why they consider this fun. Im just curious.
We're Pirates and we ransom ppl. So I'd say you're wrong. Althought we do blow ppl up if either:
A) Things go a bit wrong (ie we are a bit drunk) B) We cant be bothered (ie we are a bit drunk) C) They dont pay (we are probably a bit drunk anyway)
Also we dont gate camp we hunt down our "customers" (poor defencless carebears who think low sec empire is safe).
I think a new term should be used for ppl such as ourselves...
... El Banditos 
Edit: We're not always drunk on rum either (just sometimes)
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 07:23:23
Originally by: shwarzkauph eve pirates kills ppl for no reason. They dont request ransom or steal stuff like real pirates would. They kill ppl and get their satifaction from the death of someone else. how is it fun to sit at a gate for hours and hours and ambush ppl who cannot fight you back? I was playing my 3 day old alt and I was in a shuttle. Shuttle have no weapons, no nothing that you could profit from. WHy attack me? I would like any rat to explain why they consider this fun. Im just curious.
We're Pirates and we ransom ppl. So I'd say you're wrong. Althought we do blow ppl up if either:
A) Things go a bit wrong (ie we are a bit drunk) B) We cant be bothered (ie we are a bit drunk) C) They dont pay (we are probably a bit drunk anyway)
Also we dont gate camp we hunt down our "customers" (poor defencless carebears who think low sec empire is safe).
I think a new term should be used for ppl such as ourselves...
... El Banditos 
Edit: We're not always drunk on rum either (just sometimes)
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: Also, I'm curious as to the basis of your 75% figure. How did you come up with that?
I'm an extremely good judge of character in RL...
Don't even need to see the person, just have to listen to them speak, or watch them type, and I can tell how much of an ******* they are...
It seems you're RL "skills" do not translate very well to mmorpg games...
Seems I'm a better judge of mmorpg characters and it looks like I've found the a-hole of today.
Ohhhh and how do you "watch them type"?
You some kinda a reclusive voyeur with an obsession for webcams that lives in his parents basement and has spotty skin issues?
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: Also, I'm curious as to the basis of your 75% figure. How did you come up with that?
I'm an extremely good judge of character in RL...
Don't even need to see the person, just have to listen to them speak, or watch them type, and I can tell how much of an ******* they are...
It seems you're RL "skills" do not translate very well to mmorpg games...
Seems I'm a better judge of mmorpg characters and it looks like I've found the a-hole of today.
Ohhhh and how do you "watch them type"?
You some kinda a reclusive voyeur with an obsession for webcams that lives in his parents basement and has spotty skin issues?
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 11:45:52
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: You some kinda a reclusive voyeur with an obsession for webcams that lives in his parents basement and has spotty skin issues?
Actually, no...
I'm a very good looking successful 31 year old with a beautiful, big titted blonde GF, and we have lots of sex.
I just try and sit down and have a little fun with EVE now & again, and try to avoid your kind...
Pirates, PK'ers, whatever... Can try to substantiate their existence in EVE any way they like. Chances are, I'm not gonna buy it, and will see right through it... You can't fool me... Your EVE colleagues are typically going to come from the socially inept class in RL, and those RL deficiencies manifest themselves in games such as EVE as PK'ing and the like as a big green neon sign... Very easy to spot.
I watch people type in the chat channels... Where else???
You sir have just proved to everyone what an arse you really are.
Your assumptions are flawed. Your attitude leaves a lot to be desired. All in all I'd have to say you're a fool.
How you can assume an entire playing class (that is advertised on the box) are a bunch of inbred hillbillies is really beyond my comprehension.
I've got an idea for your small little brain to try and grasp, see if you like it...
1) Force all ships to have all their high slots filled with mining lasers. 2) Change all sec status's of systems to 1.0 3) Remove all fun and unpredictability from the game 4) Call it Bhall-Online: The first Numptie
and for your information my colleagues in game are my real life drinking partners.
Thank you. Good night and IBTL
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 11:45:52
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: You some kinda a reclusive voyeur with an obsession for webcams that lives in his parents basement and has spotty skin issues?
Actually, no...
I'm a very good looking successful 31 year old with a beautiful, big titted blonde GF, and we have lots of sex.
I just try and sit down and have a little fun with EVE now & again, and try to avoid your kind...
Pirates, PK'ers, whatever... Can try to substantiate their existence in EVE any way they like. Chances are, I'm not gonna buy it, and will see right through it... You can't fool me... Your EVE colleagues are typically going to come from the socially inept class in RL, and those RL deficiencies manifest themselves in games such as EVE as PK'ing and the like as a big green neon sign... Very easy to spot.
I watch people type in the chat channels... Where else???
You sir have just proved to everyone what an arse you really are.
Your assumptions are flawed. Your attitude leaves a lot to be desired. All in all I'd have to say you're a fool.
How you can assume an entire playing class (that is advertised on the box) are a bunch of inbred hillbillies is really beyond my comprehension.
I've got an idea for your small little brain to try and grasp, see if you like it...
1) Force all ships to have all their high slots filled with mining lasers. 2) Change all sec status's of systems to 1.0 3) Remove all fun and unpredictability from the game 4) Call it Bhall-Online: The first Numptie
and for your information my colleagues in game are my real life drinking partners.
Thank you. Good night and IBTL
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 12:03:26
Originally by: Bhaal
Actually, I have many ideas for this game, none of which are as absurd as the ones you've listed here... You're just trying to be a smart ass, and you're not very good at it 
"and for your information my colleagues in game are my real life drinking partners"
How is this supposed to impress me? Because you go out drinking with them, does not elevate them out of the greifer status... I guess I don't understand the point you're trying to make here...
You're damn right I don't understand your point and it seems you don't understand sarcasm.
As for impressing you I'd rather lick my own armpit. Mr I've got a blonde GF with big norks...(wtf was that in aid of?)
here we go with the simple yet large fact
PIRATES ARE NOT GRIEFERS
Pirate is a class advertised on the game box if thats too tough for you and you don't like it then don't do it. But to expect other ppl to modify their playing style to suit your random thought process is absurd and wrong.
Stay in 1.0 if you dont wanna be shot by ebil pimpleys 
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 12:03:26
Originally by: Bhaal
Actually, I have many ideas for this game, none of which are as absurd as the ones you've listed here... You're just trying to be a smart ass, and you're not very good at it 
"and for your information my colleagues in game are my real life drinking partners"
How is this supposed to impress me? Because you go out drinking with them, does not elevate them out of the greifer status... I guess I don't understand the point you're trying to make here...
You're damn right I don't understand your point and it seems you don't understand sarcasm.
As for impressing you I'd rather lick my own armpit. Mr I've got a blonde GF with big norks...(wtf was that in aid of?)
here we go with the simple yet large fact
PIRATES ARE NOT GRIEFERS
Pirate is a class advertised on the game box if thats too tough for you and you don't like it then don't do it. But to expect other ppl to modify their playing style to suit your random thought process is absurd and wrong.
Stay in 1.0 if you dont wanna be shot by ebil pimpleys 
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 14:27:51
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: PIRATES ARE NOT GRIEFERS
Prove it...
How do you prove that they all arn't?
Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
You're just starting to sound desparate now with your insane bickerings.
You prove that they all are, coz theres about 20 ppl here telling you you're wrong...
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 14:27:51
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: PIRATES ARE NOT GRIEFERS
Prove it...
How do you prove that they all arn't?
Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
You're just starting to sound desparate now with your insane bickerings.
You prove that they all are, coz theres about 20 ppl here telling you you're wrong...
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 14:35:13
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: Do they call you and all anti-pirates pimple-faced basement dwellers with god-complexes ?
Non-combatants have been thoughroughly put through the ringer here on the forums and in game from day one...
Don't play this game with me...
Anti-"Carebear" sentiment has been very strong since this game went live...
Much of the DEV's work over the past year has been babysitting you guys...
You guys saw pirating on the back of the box, creamed your pants, and bought EVE instead of the best FPS out at the time...
Don't give me this crap, I've stood virtually alone in this fight since day one, while you guys band together like rats and tag-team troll on the forums...
IMO, the game has come a long way, but much time was wasted on changing code to battle the greifer... We are not mere sheep for you *******s to blow up...
M8 its a pvp game thats kinda the point.
The markets......PVP Who gets the good ores.......PVP Who shoots who also happens to be.......PVP
It's an online game that makes it all PVP.
OK so every game has its *******s but your just saying all pirates are *******s without any evidence to back it up.
The reason your standing alone is coz your on your own side, you seem to exibit no idea of what your typing about othhr than generally throwing childish taunts around.
Now come up with some evidence that "All pirates are greifers" and i'll go and make a nice post defining the differences between a Griefer and a Pirate
edit: i think we got "a55holes" added to the censor list :D
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 14:35:13
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: Do they call you and all anti-pirates pimple-faced basement dwellers with god-complexes ?
Non-combatants have been thoughroughly put through the ringer here on the forums and in game from day one...
Don't play this game with me...
Anti-"Carebear" sentiment has been very strong since this game went live...
Much of the DEV's work over the past year has been babysitting you guys...
You guys saw pirating on the back of the box, creamed your pants, and bought EVE instead of the best FPS out at the time...
Don't give me this crap, I've stood virtually alone in this fight since day one, while you guys band together like rats and tag-team troll on the forums...
IMO, the game has come a long way, but much time was wasted on changing code to battle the greifer... We are not mere sheep for you *******s to blow up...
M8 its a pvp game thats kinda the point.
The markets......PVP Who gets the good ores.......PVP Who shoots who also happens to be.......PVP
It's an online game that makes it all PVP.
OK so every game has its *******s but your just saying all pirates are *******s without any evidence to back it up.
The reason your standing alone is coz your on your own side, you seem to exibit no idea of what your typing about othhr than generally throwing childish taunts around.
Now come up with some evidence that "All pirates are greifers" and i'll go and make a nice post defining the differences between a Griefer and a Pirate
edit: i think we got "a55holes" added to the censor list :D
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 14:48:13 Edit: Yeah its called Beta testing but thats another story ;) They also changed cap usage for mining lasers and a million other things that have had nothing to do with pvp or griefing as you seem to want to call it. Does that mean mining is bad too? Fancy, mining and removing from the game all thos roids so other ppl cant mine them how "griefy" of you...
Anyway I would like to apologise for my flameageing on this thread. I got a bit carried away 
why-o-why cant we all just be friends, come join me in 0.4 Mr Bhaal we could do lunch then do some mining together 
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 14:48:13 Edit: Yeah its called Beta testing but thats another story ;) They also changed cap usage for mining lasers and a million other things that have had nothing to do with pvp or griefing as you seem to want to call it. Does that mean mining is bad too? Fancy, mining and removing from the game all thos roids so other ppl cant mine them how "griefy" of you...
Anyway I would like to apologise for my flameageing on this thread. I got a bit carried away 
why-o-why cant we all just be friends, come join me in 0.4 Mr Bhaal we could do lunch then do some mining together 
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 14:52:14 I know, I've seen you around
BYOB = bring your own bottle? 
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 14:52:14 I know, I've seen you around
BYOB = bring your own bottle? 
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: Bhaal, am I a griefer?
-10 sec rating high empire space noob instaganking? (The honorable Tank CEO & Molly method of pirating)
Jip Camping?
1 piece of ammo per jet can gate lagging?
If you've used any of the above along with the myriad of other issues CCP has had to spend time addressing, to use to your advantage in your pirating career, than yes, I would consider you a greifer...
Your already assuming he has before youve got proof?
Your a prat
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: Bhaal, am I a griefer?
-10 sec rating high empire space noob instaganking? (The honorable Tank CEO & Molly method of pirating)
Jip Camping?
1 piece of ammo per jet can gate lagging?
If you've used any of the above along with the myriad of other issues CCP has had to spend time addressing, to use to your advantage in your pirating career, than yes, I would consider you a greifer...
Your already assuming he has before youve got proof?
Your a prat
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 15:08:00 -
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Im not crying about it.
Just bemused by your lack of argument.
Everyone who pvp's is a cheat now are they?
Lets just let this thread die and agree to disagree, about whatever it is your trying to get at.
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 15:08:00 -
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Im not crying about it.
Just bemused by your lack of argument.
Everyone who pvp's is a cheat now are they?
Lets just let this thread die and agree to disagree, about whatever it is your trying to get at.
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 15:21:00 -
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ok some ppl will but not ALL.
It's like saying all the Terrorists on Counterstrike cheat because they are supposed to be the bad guys... It's nonsense.
I'm sure some "carebears" have exploited game mechanics to their advantage too but I'm also fairly sure not all of them have. Then again i could just generalise and say all "carebears" are cheats until they prove their not...
But thats just like your argument, pathetic.
Time for thread to die, Will not reply after this.
See you in space Bhaal
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 15:21:00 -
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ok some ppl will but not ALL.
It's like saying all the Terrorists on Counterstrike cheat because they are supposed to be the bad guys... It's nonsense.
I'm sure some "carebears" have exploited game mechanics to their advantage too but I'm also fairly sure not all of them have. Then again i could just generalise and say all "carebears" are cheats until they prove their not...
But thats just like your argument, pathetic.
Time for thread to die, Will not reply after this.
See you in space Bhaal
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 16:11:02
Originally by: Attrael
Originally by: Maud Dib The real issue is that some people can't handle being beaten (as they see it) by another human being. If you beat them you must have cheated somehow.
Not really. The issue is being beaten by people who HAVE cheated. People don't mind death by NPCs (most of the time) since NPCs follow a set of rules. Players, on the other hand, have a bad habit of seeking out every possible loophole in the game mechanics they can find to make themselves 'invincible'. I, for one, have no problem getting blasted sky to space dust while mining in 0.0 by a player pirate. I DO have a problem getting blasted by a player pirate in .2 space because they put 200 jet cans at the gate insuring I wouldn't load in time to react. (for example)
Sure, not all player pirates try to exploit game mechanics as such, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch.
ahhh cmon NPC's are the worst cheaters in the game. They can pirate anywhere they want including next to concord in 0.8. They have uber modules, webbed at 25km anyone? and they dont drop em when you shoot em. They Spawn and dont arrive via warp. They seem to have infinate ammo and cap. Just because they always act the same and ppl like repeatition and dont like the unpredictable ppl assume they fight fair?! Grow up.
And when in gods name did you last see a 200 jet can lag fest? About 8 months ago? Whats the jet can wait time these days?
Edit: Dammit I couldnt let it lie could I
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 16:11:02
Originally by: Attrael
Originally by: Maud Dib The real issue is that some people can't handle being beaten (as they see it) by another human being. If you beat them you must have cheated somehow.
Not really. The issue is being beaten by people who HAVE cheated. People don't mind death by NPCs (most of the time) since NPCs follow a set of rules. Players, on the other hand, have a bad habit of seeking out every possible loophole in the game mechanics they can find to make themselves 'invincible'. I, for one, have no problem getting blasted sky to space dust while mining in 0.0 by a player pirate. I DO have a problem getting blasted by a player pirate in .2 space because they put 200 jet cans at the gate insuring I wouldn't load in time to react. (for example)
Sure, not all player pirates try to exploit game mechanics as such, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch.
ahhh cmon NPC's are the worst cheaters in the game. They can pirate anywhere they want including next to concord in 0.8. They have uber modules, webbed at 25km anyone? and they dont drop em when you shoot em. They Spawn and dont arrive via warp. They seem to have infinate ammo and cap. Just because they always act the same and ppl like repeatition and dont like the unpredictable ppl assume they fight fair?! Grow up.
And when in gods name did you last see a 200 jet can lag fest? About 8 months ago? Whats the jet can wait time these days?
Edit: Dammit I couldnt let it lie could I
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Maud Dib Oh yeah one more thing. I love how some people love to talk about pirate exploits.
Jet can mining is and will always be the most used exploit in the game but rarely do you see threads with people talking about banning miners for greifing.
Oh yeah don't forget the mining agent exploit.
Or the agent runners Zor exploit.
Really the only person I see who wants to totally destroy another groups playing style is the guy calling pirates greifers.
Agreed
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.26 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Maud Dib Oh yeah one more thing. I love how some people love to talk about pirate exploits.
Jet can mining is and will always be the most used exploit in the game but rarely do you see threads with people talking about banning miners for greifing.
Oh yeah don't forget the mining agent exploit.
Or the agent runners Zor exploit.
Really the only person I see who wants to totally destroy another groups playing style is the guy calling pirates greifers.
Agreed
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.27 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Attrael Edited by: Attrael on 26/08/2004 18:13:59
Originally by: Crowley Just because they always act the same and ppl like repeatition and dont like the unpredictable ppl assume they fight fair?! Grow up.
And when in gods name did you last see a 200 jet can lag fest? About 8 months ago? Whats the jet can wait time these days?
Wow, you really are retarded, aren't you. It's a wonder you've mastered the complexities of the keyboard. How about suicide Kestrals? Does that ring a bell? Another example, and the list goes on. People like you search for and find a way to circumvent and exploit the mechanics of the game so you can kill other players while they can't kill you because the game mechanics prevent them from doing so. You are ALL guilty of this. You know it darn well so don't even try to deny it because you're so transparent that you aren't even visible. People like you should have your pods vaporized, your skill points reduced to zero, your accounts deleted, and your portraits shown with the label 'dunce' shown on billboards for all people to point and laugh at. That's the future that waits for you.
Now, kindly unplug your keyboard, smash your mouse, and end yourself.
Beg your pardon but its spelt kestrel
So lets start again with who lacks typing skills.
As for specifically labeling me a cheater, well I'm afraid that makes you the retard and at least my picture doesn't have to be posted on billboards for ppl to know what a "dunce" i am when you post tripe like this
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.27 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Attrael Edited by: Attrael on 26/08/2004 18:13:59
Originally by: Crowley Just because they always act the same and ppl like repeatition and dont like the unpredictable ppl assume they fight fair?! Grow up.
And when in gods name did you last see a 200 jet can lag fest? About 8 months ago? Whats the jet can wait time these days?
Wow, you really are retarded, aren't you. It's a wonder you've mastered the complexities of the keyboard. How about suicide Kestrals? Does that ring a bell? Another example, and the list goes on. People like you search for and find a way to circumvent and exploit the mechanics of the game so you can kill other players while they can't kill you because the game mechanics prevent them from doing so. You are ALL guilty of this. You know it darn well so don't even try to deny it because you're so transparent that you aren't even visible. People like you should have your pods vaporized, your skill points reduced to zero, your accounts deleted, and your portraits shown with the label 'dunce' shown on billboards for all people to point and laugh at. That's the future that waits for you.
Now, kindly unplug your keyboard, smash your mouse, and end yourself.
Beg your pardon but its spelt kestrel
So lets start again with who lacks typing skills.
As for specifically labeling me a cheater, well I'm afraid that makes you the retard and at least my picture doesn't have to be posted on billboards for ppl to know what a "dunce" i am when you post tripe like this
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:03:00 -
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just another carebear on a soap box look...
á á á á\_ _/ á á á___()____ á á/á á á /\á á á á/ /________/á | |á á á á á á á á á|á á| |á á SOAPá á |á á| |á á á á á á á á á|á / |________|/
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:03:00 -
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just another carebear on a soap box look...
á á á á\_ _/ á á á___()____ á á/á á á /\á á á á/ /________/á | |á á á á á á á á á|á á| |á á SOAPá á |á á| |á á á á á á á á á|á / |________|/
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:14:00 -
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The things you can do while at work 
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:14:00 -
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The things you can do while at work 
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