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BECAUSE'OF FALCON
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Posted - 2009.04.11 19:27:00 -
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Devs - Are you guys planning to give us the option to use application controlled anti aliasing?
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Dmian
Gallente Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2009.04.11 19:32:00 -
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Are players going to get rid of their DX9 laptops ever? ----
Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
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Sirani
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.11 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dmian Are players going to get rid of their DX9 laptops ever?
has nothing to do with the original post whatsoever, move along. ------------------- |

Dmian
Gallente Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2009.04.11 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sirani has nothing to do with the original post whatsoever, move along.
Yeah, whatever...  ----
Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.04.11 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 11/04/2009 20:02:16
Originally by: Dmian
Originally by: Sirani has nothing to do with the original post whatsoever, move along.
Yeah, whatever... 
If you're going to refer to Nhancer... yeah, doesn't work for many people.
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SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.11 20:17:00 -
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Not sure why people are opposed to AA? Even the people with crappy comps wouldnt matter really as they would be unable to run AA. Unless they like playing @ 8 fps. If they do props to them then. Don't think it would affect latency to much just client side lag.
Would be nice though I got this cranked up to 1650-1080 and still jaggies. All the damned promos look better. I wonder if this could be labeled as bait and switch?
In any case Force AA via a gpu controller makes it unstable so that's not really an option for any smarty pants out there trying to get the last word in.
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AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.11 20:20:00 -
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I vote move this to another forum and OP perma banned from posting this crap ever again.
kthxbye 
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Athena Tarsis
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Posted - 2009.04.11 20:36:00 -
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Once you get above a certain resolution, AA really is superfluous anyway.
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SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.11 20:46:00 -
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More people can enable AA than crank the res up to 1920+ due to native monitor res etc. Like I said above @1650+ I still have tons and tons of jagged edges
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SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.11 20:47:00 -
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More people can enable AA than crank the res up to 1920+ due to native monitor res etc. Like I said above @1650+ I still have tons and tons of jagged edges. I cant use 1920 res due to said monitor so where does that leave me and others like me? Staring at rough ships thats what.
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Athena Tarsis
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Posted - 2009.04.11 20:59:00 -
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Hmm. You must have some crazy dot pitch on that monitor of yours.
Since getting my HD4850 card, I've been running 1600x1200 (highest resolution my monitor supports) and everything looks smooth as silk. No jaggies here.
Dunno what to tell you.
You look angry in your avatar.
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london
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.11 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: london on 11/04/2009 21:48:44 ATI 4870 here with driver forced AA + HDR works fine.
The white spots on the asteroids are another story, still waiting for CCP to make it HDR/AA friendly again. 
Also, UN-NERF the Hyperion's textures! it looks god ugly now :( And fix the damn shadows so they aren't pixelated messes. The old 'extreme' setting used to look so damn nice.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.04.11 21:56:00 -
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Just zoom out and play in complete silence like the rest of us.
Oh wait, wrong complaint.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |

Dhaaka Vincatar
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Posted - 2009.04.11 23:59:00 -
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Your eyes hurt, you guessed it, because of Falcon.
That is all.
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Towelieban
Minmatar D00M.
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Posted - 2009.04.12 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Wet Ferret Just zoom out and play in complete silence like the rest of us.
Oh wait, wrong complaint.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.
well i haven't played with sounds on in like 5+ years so i don't suffer from it 
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.12 03:58:00 -
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they'll get rid of jaggies the day the ps3 system gets rid of thier jaggies.
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ZinderX500
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.12 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dmian
Originally by: Sirani has nothing to do with the original post whatsoever, move along.
Yeah, whatever... 
What about letting the people that don't use HDR, having AA then?
So yeah...whatever.
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Ivy Scorn
Amarr Nethro Ore Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.04.12 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Athena Tarsis Once you get above a certain resolution, AA really is superfluous anyway.
You can't see individual pixels in 1680x1050? You're kidding? There's a reason why most graphical OS's run AA on their fonts (i.e. cleartype in windows).
Originally by: Athena Tarsis Since getting my HD4850 card, I've been running 1600x1200 (highest resolution my monitor supports) and everything looks smooth as silk. No jaggies here.
You're on a CRT monitor? That might work. But you should see individual dots on a flatscreen. If you don't you'll probably want to check your eyesight.
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Scott Ryder
Amarr Khanid Mineral Reserves
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Posted - 2009.04.12 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dmian Are players going to get rid of their DX9 laptops ever?
I may be lazy, but is there a decent dx10 for xp? I Cant and wont install vista
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Thuzey
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Posted - 2009.04.12 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: Dmian Are players going to get rid of their DX9 laptops ever?
I may be lazy, but is there a decent dx10 for xp? I Cant and wont install vista
Skip vista and try out Win7 if you havnt already , dx11 capable whenever that is used.
Running 1920x1200 here and i dont see any jaggies either
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Sinitron
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Posted - 2009.04.12 08:49:00 -
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This is probably the only thing I really HATE about this game; it looks like utter GARBAGE most of the time without anti-alias, yet for some obscure reason they've provided HDR? I know of no other games that give you the option of using HDR but not AA, simply because it looks awful with the dreaded 'jaggies' on if not the majority then a very large chunk of LCD monitors.
This is in addition to all the Battleships with crappy textures, badly mirrored textures, and so on. Why can't EVE be consistent visually? It's advertized as having amazing graphics, which it by all means sometimes does have... but it's not across the board, and it's riddled with small inconsistencies.
Not that I assume the developers will care to listen... But I'm still pretty annoyed that my idiot friend who plays WoW all day long is practically saying 'EVE is a horrible hack job'. I'm not saying I think it's an awful game, just that I don't understand what the developers were thinking when doing the graphics, and why they have made the choices they've made... least of all in regards to AA vs HDR.
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Arkhan Bayne
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Posted - 2009.04.12 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dmian Are players going to get rid of their DX9 laptops ever?
i'll upgrade my PC's opperating system when I a) get a copy of vista for the same price as my copy of xp (ú5 - legit copy, thx msdn) b) Vista isn't crap
since neither of the above will happen any time soon, i'll stick with XP, which works fine. and i only had to pay shipping on.
however, on topic, i don't much care about the AA, this game looks great without it anyway, got everything else turned up, what's a few hard edges when you got lasers and explosions to be worried about?
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ZinderX500
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.12 09:34:00 -
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Saying that it's the same without AA on high resolutions, is just plain stupid. Check the picture below. Note, i play at 1920x1200. Left is with 8xAA and 16xAF and on the right guess what.
http://files.tiven.org/eve/withandwithoutaa.png
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WonkySplitDemon
United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.12 10:28:00 -
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I have a hd4850 GS 1gb and the game looks wicked on full settings with AA and AF set to max, HDR looks PANTS UNSC- United Nations Space Command |

Sirani
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.12 12:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sirani on 12/04/2009 12:45:03
Originally by: ZinderX500 Saying that it's the same without AA on high resolutions, is just plain stupid. Check the picture below. Note, i play at 1920x1200. Left is with 8xAA and 16xAF and on the right guess what.
http://files.tiven.org/eve/withandwithoutaa.png
indeed. i'm glad someone bothered to take comparison shots to prove that guy a few posts up wrong cause I couldn't be bothered. no jaggies at high resolutions... lol!
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You can't see individual pixels in 1680x1050? You're kidding? There's a reason why most graphical OS's run AA on their fonts (i.e. cleartype in windows).
maybe if you tried not sitting with your face stuck to the screen? wtf? ------------------- |

Ivy Scorn
Amarr Nethro Ore Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.04.12 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sirani maybe if you tried not sitting with your face stuck to the screen? wtf?
Look, the only way you might not notice a *massive* difference between an AA'ed Eve in 1680x1050 and one that is not is by watching it on a CRT monitor. Usually higher resolutions also imply larger display devices at about the same DPI ratio, so this is not an issue that will miraculously disappear if the eve devs just keep ignoring it. 
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Kaar
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 13:22:00 -
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I have poor eyesight so everything is naturally AA for me.
Im not joking either 
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.04.12 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: ZinderX500 Saying that it's the same without AA on high resolutions, is just plain stupid. Check the picture below. Note, i play at 1920x1200. Left is with 8xAA and 16xAF and on the right guess what.
http://files.tiven.org/eve/withandwithoutaa.png
And what about those who don't play at a large screen res, yes mine supports it but i dual client quite a lot and also play windowed, i've never noticed any difference with or without AA at all, would love to see it nice and pretty but in reality i can live with the graphics as is as i'm normally paying more attention to what i'm doing rather than looking at the oh so pretties ;) --------- Liberty Rogues Site[/center]
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SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.12 15:10:00 -
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Graphics opinions are like tastes in women.... I think cranked up 1650-1080 on my LCD still looks bad others might not agree because they don't/cant run games with max settings. But if you could you'd be with me on this one.... with shadows as they are in this game things are just not crisp.
Seems most people here force AA with ATI cards, I haven't tried on my 8800gt. (tried with a lesser card wasn't stable) so maybe I'll try again. But damn it I want in game AA support. At least allow people who can run it to run it.
off topic And lol at the win 7 comment. All win 7 is vista with a new name and less User access spam, and minor security tweaks. They decided to "trash" vista because it got so much bad publicity, But 7 is vista.
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Cereah
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Posted - 2009.04.12 15:20:00 -
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nForce ftw.
I use 1600x1200 res, HDR, 16x AA, anisotropic at 16x... Not a single jaggie here.
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