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Atreixa
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.04.12 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: Atreixa on 12/04/2009 03:17:50 http://www.infinity-universe.com
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UMEE
Tactical Initiative Dark Cadre
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Posted - 2009.04.12 03:25:00 -
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yes, such planets in eve would be fantastic. we have to give them a chance tho 
infinity has no game. eye candy with no gameplay. i dont think it will ever come out.
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Foxtrot986
Invention Services
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Posted - 2009.04.12 03:32:00 -
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For the lazy
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ZinderX500
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.12 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Foxtrot986 For the lazy
Thanks.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.04.12 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: UMEE yes, such planets in eve would be fantastic. we have to give them a chance tho 
infinity has no game. eye candy with no gameplay. i dont think it will ever come out.
it's styill fu to model for though, a community effort game is fun to jsut make : )
also if novs fox reads this my laptop died on me :( I had to start over on another computer and it wasn't even mine, and now I lost that and ... sigh.
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Atreixa
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.04.12 11:30:00 -
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I am waiting yet for WIS and for planets like these in EVE. I know that Infinity is only a promise, and not a real mmorpg. But i think that EVE is only a good mmorpg, but not a legendary mmorpg, while the planets donŠt be great.
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Kaar
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 11:47:00 -
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I dunno, i've seen some pretty cool planets since apoc.
pretty.jpg shattered_planet.jpg
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.04.12 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar I dunno, i've seen some pretty cool planets since apoc.
pretty.jpg shattered_planet.jpg
That first one is stunning.
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Mavity Shade
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Posted - 2009.04.12 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar I dunno, i've seen some pretty cool planets since apoc.
pretty.jpg shattered_planet.jpg
You have everything turned on and on high? What GFX card do you use?
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Wulf Tarkin
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Posted - 2009.04.12 12:31:00 -
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That Centaura City is exactly the same as Caprica City on Caprica from BSG...
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Sirani
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.12 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar I dunno, i've seen some pretty cool planets since apoc.
pretty.jpg shattered_planet.jpg
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nails
Caldari Ota Corps
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Posted - 2009.04.12 12:34:00 -
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Ya see, they need to bring all of the other planets in EVE up to date, not just w-space planets. Right now the plantes are big sacks of bland, everything is low res, overly gassy, and overly cloudy. I remember the Planets that looked like Jupiter, then they removed them and replaced them with these colorless slacks of bland. EVE graphics are not up to date till they replace all of the current planet textures high res planet textures, that actually look epic!!!
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Avaan Eclipse
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Kaar I dunno, i've seen some pretty cool planets since apoc.
pretty.jpg shattered_planet.jpg
That first one is stunning.

Not only stunning, but interestisng from a backstory perspective as well.
That screen is taken in unknown space, and there's lights on that planet, which suggests someone is living there. The question is if it's more sleeper drones or actual alive-and-well sleepers.
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eve warrior
Minmatar Filthy Scum Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.12 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: UMEE yes, such planets in eve would be fantastic. we have to give them a chance tho 
infinity has no game. eye candy with no gameplay. i dont think it will ever come out.
Lets hope for ccp this does not come out, because if it does i for one will be jumping ship and swiming over there. Been keeping a track on Infinity for sometime now.
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AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.12 14:01:00 -
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Stunning visuals = more lag. Thanks but no thanks.
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Mashie Saldana
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.04.12 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Avaan Eclipse

Not only stunning, but interestisng from a backstory perspective as well.
That screen is taken in unknown space, and there's lights on that planet, which suggests someone is living there. The question is if it's more sleeper drones or actual alive-and-well sleepers.
Maybe it's the last stronghold of the Talocans?
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Tag Heuer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 15:02:00 -
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Eve's got planets?
I fly through large spheres floating in space....do you mean those?
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Soma Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.12 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: AkRoYeR Stunning visuals = more lag. Thanks but no thanks.
nice try ___
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Eldern Minderhost
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Posted - 2009.04.12 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tag Heuer Eve's got planets?
I fly through large spheres floating in space....do you mean those?
There are back story reasons for that. I'm just too lazy to look it up. Similarly, the reason out ships act like they are in a liquid environment is because of the drag their warp engines make on the fabric of space around them.
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Clueless Alt
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Posted - 2009.04.12 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar pretty.jpg
Is it really eve? Can't wait for the new background+planets. The light are indeed interesting, but I bet it's not particularly intended. 
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Nomad Storm
The Wandering Path
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Posted - 2009.04.12 18:55:00 -
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Hrmm, cant say infinity looked that impressive. Was great panning around planets but the space graphics are a tad lacking. That and their idea of showing off space combat was switching scenes every half second and flashing lights. The one video running down the side of a battleship was decent but then I remembered eve videos which show off ships in the same manner yet better (not that you can look at ships like this if you are actually doing something anyway).
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Anubis Assassin
Caldari Three 6 MaFiA Dark Crystal Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.12 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Avaan Eclipse

Not only stunning, but interestisng from a backstory perspective as well.
That screen is taken in unknown space, and there's lights on that planet, which suggests someone is living there. The question is if it's more sleeper drones or actual alive-and-well sleepers.
That was the first thing I thought as well.
On a side note, does anyone know or have any idea when the hell we're supposed to be getting the new planets/backdrops in non-wormhole space? --------------------------- I have to make my own sig break? WTF? These forums suck CCP, fix 'em or get something better... I'm tired of reading Khraunus' sig every single time I read one of his |

Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.12 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: UMEE yes, such planets in eve would be fantastic. we have to give them a chance tho 
infinity has no game. eye candy with no gameplay. i dont think it will ever come out.
It is still in the early stages of game-development. So far you are correct in that there are no real finished gameplay mechanics, but the graphics and universe engine is almost finished and people are working on suggestions for gameplay. I for one am confident that it will be released in the next 5 years, probably in the next 2. I'm definitely going to play it when it is released, and will be helping with development where possible.
Now please stop spreading spurious pessimism with no basis in fact.
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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Akor Flandres
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Posted - 2009.04.12 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki
It is still in the early stages of game-development.
How long has it been going now, 5 years?. It's an interesting little project that will not scale or work as a game whatsoever, if their current plans are what they actually implement.
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mechtech
Entropy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.12 20:38:00 -
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The problem for me isn't the graphics of the planets so much as the fact that they seem so small.
They seem to be the size of a warp bubble or something, while other games bring you so close you can barely see the curvature of the planet's surface.
I really hope CCP overhauls the whole system to make them seem bigger. A simple re-texture would be very disappointing.
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Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.12 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Akor Flandres
Originally by: Karentaki
It is still in the early stages of game-development.
How long has it been going now, 5 years?. It's an interesting little project that will not scale or work as a game whatsoever, if their current plans are what they actually implement.
There's one guy working on the entire game engine. Don't be surprised it is taking a long time. I do still have faith that it will be finished though. I think writing a whole procedural galaxy engine, graphics engine, and physics engine is a bit more work that just coding a UI and some multiplayer code (which is mostly done already), and working out the finer details of gameplay.
I'm not meaning to sound like a fanboy here, I like both EVE and Infinity, but from what I have seen the gameplay in Infinity will be MUCH deeper than that in eve.
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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Alex Raptos
Caldari The Firestorm Millennium
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Posted - 2009.04.12 20:46:00 -
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Every time someone links to Infinity it reminds me of an old friend in eve. if it eventually does come to light, i'll play it at least once in their memory since i have not seen nor heard of them for a long time. Even if it sucks.
But alas, my common sense tells me its Vapourware, but i hope not.
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Tamoko
Damage Unlimited Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.12 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech The problem for me isn't the graphics of the planets so much as the fact that they seem so small.
They seem to be the size of a warp bubble or something, while other games bring you so close you can barely see the curvature of the planet's surface.
I really hope CCP overhauls the whole system to make them seem bigger. A simple re-texture would be very disappointing.
This, imo. A couple of the most overwhelmingly disappointing experiences I've had in Eve were first realizing I could warp to planets (and realizing they're pitifully small and poorly textured) and seeing my first capital ship in-game, and finding it embarrassingly small. I've come to accept the capital ships, but the orbital bodies need to be overhauled.
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Lt Shard
United Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2009.04.12 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Lt Shard on 12/04/2009 21:09:34
Originally by: AkRoYeR Stunning visuals = more lag. Thanks but no thanks.
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UMEE
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.04.12 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki
Originally by: UMEE yes, such planets in eve would be fantastic. we have to give them a chance tho 
infinity has no game. eye candy with no gameplay. i dont think it will ever come out.
It is still in the early stages of game-development. So far you are correct in that there are no real finished gameplay mechanics, but the graphics and universe engine is almost finished and people are working on suggestions for gameplay. I for one am confident that it will be released in the next 5 years, probably in the next 2. I'm definitely going to play it when it is released, and will be helping with development where possible.
Now please stop spreading spurious pessimism with no basis in fact.
uh im not pessimistic. all it takes is one look at the game's forums. theyre still brainstorming ideas, and they arent really looking too good. judging by how huge they plan on making the universe, it will essentially end up being an exploration simulator with little player interaction.
if its gameplay ends up being better than eve's, i switch over faster than you can blink.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.12 22:00:00 -
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The size of the planets is actually rendered correctly. They look small only because of our perspective (high altitude). The fact that it's difficult to get properly close to the planet with the current mechanics works to enforce the problem.
I once outfitted an inty to fly 11km/s and fly all the way to the surface of a planet, the horizon did nearly become a straight line, but it's difficult still to get a proper perspective as the planet develops a big hole in the middle as soon as you breach the surface. The ships need to properly interact with a planet! and not fly through as if they are an optical illusion. It's a HUGE immersion breaker. How many times have you not read on these very forums, players showing the game to their friends, and the friends going "What?! Did you just fly straight through a planet??"
CCP need to come up with a workable solution to the warping and flying through planets, the background story they 'hacked' into place to explain it just doesn't work. Get a mathwiz to workout a formula for a curved warp path that will take the ship around planets and make them solid at the same time. It shouldn't be very taxing on cpu, such a formula should be fairly simple in computations if done correctly. ==================================================
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Reiisha
Evolution KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.04.12 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: AkRoYeR Stunning visuals = more lag. Thanks but no thanks.
Visuals and lag have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Everything visual is done locally by your own computer, not over the internet.
Some games do have that problem, but that's usually because the developers are too lazy to include abstract collision detection.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Emma Durham
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Posted - 2009.04.12 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
Visuals and lag have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Everything visual is done locally by your own computer, not over the internet.
That would be why CCP recommend that everyone turn effects off during large fleet fights.
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Salmeria
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Posted - 2009.04.12 23:53:00 -
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keep in mind that in space, the majority of the planets are going to dead ugly rocks. however i do agree that we need nice beautiful planets to look at. i have only seen a few nice looking ones and there could be a better variety of them.
actually this could go for a lot of things. it would be nice to see more structures and signs of life around space.
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Synex
Gallente Oursulaert Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.13 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: nails Ya see, they need to bring all of the other planets in EVE up to date, not just w-space planets. Right now the plantes are big sacks of bland, everything is low res, overly gassy, and overly cloudy. I remember the Planets that looked like Jupiter, then they removed them and replaced them with these colorless slacks of bland. EVE graphics are not up to date till they replace all of the current planet textures high res planet textures, that actually look epic!!!
Jupiter
Argh! I miss that old RADAR thingy...
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.13 04:24:00 -
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Anything better than that blob of grey we have now for planets... 
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Cherybol
Caldari Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.04.13 05:25:00 -
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I'm still waiting for them to scale everything up so I can get the sense of awe when I see stations/gates/capitals/etc.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.13 05:42:00 -
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eve is unmatched....
W-space is amazing sometimes.
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.04.13 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cherybol I'm still waiting for them to scale everything up so I can get the sense of awe when I see stations/gates/capitals/etc.
I think that would be difficult, as feeling a sense of 'scale' is neigh impossible with no point of reference. You'd have to have some way to define perspective first. Right now, most players are dealing with this. In that image, is the sun REALLY that small? Or does it simply look that small due to the way the shot is aligned?
Changing the camera angle might be a start. Simply adding a new camera which acts as sort of a 'first person' view. We're not talking ****pit/command deck, but where the camera is looking OUT from the ship, instead of in towards it. Same center of rotation, just different direction. This *might* help.
Ambulation could also go a long way, especially if players could get a better reference for just how big things are. If, by chance, you could have a regular old drone on display in your shop, and you find that the thing is nearly twice as tall as a human being? Well, that would also give you a little more sense of the size of things.
As far as planets go, we all seem to want images like this. Having flown into a planet before, the size is definitely far smaller than it should be. No doubt. But we'd also need to be able to work in closer to it.
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Hra Neuvosto
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Posted - 2009.04.13 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Eldern Minderhost
Originally by: Tag Heuer I fly through large spheres floating in space....do you mean those?
There are back story reasons for that. I'm just too lazy to look it up. Similarly, the reason out ships act like they are in a liquid environment is because of the drag their warp engines make on the fabric of space around them.
Anyone know the story behind this stuff?
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.04.13 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ms Delerium on 13/04/2009 11:15:31 ZOMG! A rokh! and a drake!
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Dax Redding
RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.13 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar I dunno, i've seen some pretty cool planets since apoc.
pretty.jpg shattered_planet.jpg
Kaar your a torrent pirate =] lol
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Azirapheal
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.04.13 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Eldern Minderhost
Originally by: Tag Heuer Eve's got planets?
I fly through large spheres floating in space....do you mean those?
There are back story reasons for that. I'm just too lazy to look it up. Similarly, the reason out ships act like they are in a liquid environment is because of the drag their warp engines make on the fabric of space around them.
ok. take 1X20kms interceptor. warp to planet at 0 engage MWD and fly directly in direction of planet.
its freaky but i used to keep a couple of loot containers inside a planet
Originally by: Grohalmatar The proposed changes in the game development forum are obviously a nerf to falcon pilots. However, what they really are is a nerf to falcon alts.
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Reiisha
Evolution KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.04.20 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Emma Durham
Originally by: Reiisha
Visuals and lag have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Everything visual is done locally by your own computer, not over the internet.
That would be why CCP recommend that everyone turn effects off during large fleet fights.
That is i think a complicated matter. Purely visually, whether you run at shader 2 or 3, low or high textures, it doesn't matter at all, that just comes down to what your PC can handle, and even then, it doesn't cause lag, it causes a low framerate. Something very different.
That specific issue is, i think, because with effects off the server doesn't have to send you the information about what other ships are doing. With effects off, the only updates the server needs to send you are when a ship explodes, or status updates about your fleet structure or locked targets. With effects on, the server has to send you all the data of when and where any given ship is firing. The resolution and graphics of the effects are of no consequence whatsoever, it's purely the direction and timing of the effect.
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