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Galk
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 26/08/2004 17:14:21
Greifing in 0.0
Can i fall of my chair laughing now....
Edit... OMG i just saw your sig... WOW!
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 26/08/2004 17:14:21
Greifing in 0.0
Can i fall of my chair laughing now....
Edit... OMG i just saw your sig... WOW!
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Odet
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Ifni
Your rant is actaully about bookmarks in general, and the way they are used to surpass teh 15km flight time.
I agree that they can be used to fly through blockades and simlar but I must stress that your request that:
Quote:
removing BMS in 0.0 will make 0.0 what it used to be. And keeping them in empire will make it fair for all those ppl thaat want to travel quickly.
is frankly ridiculous. What about miners? Or scouts? Or any one who has ever used a safe spot? These all use bookmarks, for putting a hidden stash of ammo and missiles or for creating a point that lets you scan a gate, etc. Its not just insta-jumping pilots that would be harmed by removal of bookmarks in 0.0 but everybody.
Think through all the implications of your request before you rant about it please.
If you find that pilots are passing you with their bookmarks, try chasing them. They may not have a BM for the next system or the one after that. 0.0 isn't just about getting a quick and easy kill - its about living without rules, which (for better or worse) includes allowing BM's. I agree that it is frustrating trying to chase an insta-jumping frigate but mobile warp disruptors are not necessarily out of the question. They can be successfully used by a group of 2 pilots.
Its like most things about EVE; it doesnt cater for one person and not everyone's going to like it, but just adapt your playing style to the game instead of getting the game changed to suit you.
Where did i say all bookmarks? would you like to point that out for me plz.
I mean have prevent insta jumps from gate to gate. have a little coding done so nothing can warp closer then 15km around the gate. boom voila done.
Have you ever done any pirating lol?
trust me i had to make bm`s for the systems i hunt in just to chase ppl. Frankyl its retared. theyve caused 0.0 to be safe. which it isnt supposed to be.
can i ask you something can u seriously not read or are you actually wee-toded.
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Odet
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ifni
Your rant is actaully about bookmarks in general, and the way they are used to surpass teh 15km flight time.
I agree that they can be used to fly through blockades and simlar but I must stress that your request that:
Quote:
removing BMS in 0.0 will make 0.0 what it used to be. And keeping them in empire will make it fair for all those ppl thaat want to travel quickly.
is frankly ridiculous. What about miners? Or scouts? Or any one who has ever used a safe spot? These all use bookmarks, for putting a hidden stash of ammo and missiles or for creating a point that lets you scan a gate, etc. Its not just insta-jumping pilots that would be harmed by removal of bookmarks in 0.0 but everybody.
Think through all the implications of your request before you rant about it please.
If you find that pilots are passing you with their bookmarks, try chasing them. They may not have a BM for the next system or the one after that. 0.0 isn't just about getting a quick and easy kill - its about living without rules, which (for better or worse) includes allowing BM's. I agree that it is frustrating trying to chase an insta-jumping frigate but mobile warp disruptors are not necessarily out of the question. They can be successfully used by a group of 2 pilots.
Its like most things about EVE; it doesnt cater for one person and not everyone's going to like it, but just adapt your playing style to the game instead of getting the game changed to suit you.
Where did i say all bookmarks? would you like to point that out for me plz.
I mean have prevent insta jumps from gate to gate. have a little coding done so nothing can warp closer then 15km around the gate. boom voila done.
Have you ever done any pirating lol?
trust me i had to make bm`s for the systems i hunt in just to chase ppl. Frankyl its retared. theyve caused 0.0 to be safe. which it isnt supposed to be.
can i ask you something can u seriously not read or are you actually wee-toded.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:23:00 -
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odet u need to just stop posting now.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:23:00 -
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odet u need to just stop posting now.
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Odet
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:24:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Galk
Edited by: Galk on 26/08/2004 17:14:21
Greifing in 0.0
Can i fall of my chair laughing now....
Edit... OMG i just saw your sig... WOW!
depends what you call griefing.
killing for no reason, aka no ransom no nothing killing just to kill, thats is greifing.
Ranosming, killing for a purpose. not griefing.
so whatevr u consider it.
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Odet
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:24:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Galk
Edited by: Galk on 26/08/2004 17:14:21
Greifing in 0.0
Can i fall of my chair laughing now....
Edit... OMG i just saw your sig... WOW!
depends what you call griefing.
killing for no reason, aka no ransom no nothing killing just to kill, thats is greifing.
Ranosming, killing for a purpose. not griefing.
so whatevr u consider it.
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Odet
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear
odet u need to just stop posting now.
u going to cry now?
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Odet
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear
odet u need to just stop posting now.
u going to cry now?
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:28:00 -
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Ransom in 0.0
Man thats horible...
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:28:00 -
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Ransom in 0.0
Man thats horible...
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Turyleon Caddarn
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Turyleon Caddarn on 26/08/2004 17:35:01
Originally by: Odet
Originally by: Turyleon Caddarn
Edited by: Turyleon Caddarn on 26/08/2004 16:49:03
Originally by: Odet
Work as a team? mmmm F* that I like to work solo a lot and or in small groups. So therefore setting up a mobile isnt really an option.
if you arent prepared to work in a team, then i have no sympathy for you. stop whining.
tury. shhhhh.
Speak only if you know what you are talking about.
kthnxdie
I dont tell yu how to play the game dont tell me how i should. Now be a good noobcake and know your role, and try and see a point of view other then your own. I stated that in my initial post. you clearly werent thnking before posting or taking into account any other view besides your own.
ughhh.... dealing with a genius here..
ooo, a smacktalker.
the mood of your rant is the same as the people that said npc hunting solo is difficult because of the inties, and the drone nerf. the ccp stance on this is simple - play in groups, mixed fleets, this is what they have been tryin gto push people into for as long as i can remember.
just remember, although miners can make a crap load of money mining in 0.0, they still need protection from the bs rats, they have to work in a team (unless they ninja mine of course).
mobile warp disruptors, thats the way around insta jumps (although admitttidly, not instadock - but we arent talking about that), just in the same way secure containers are the way around ore theives. you have the tools, use them. you dont like them? or are too cheap to buy them? or are too impatient o wait for them to activate? then dont ****ing moan when people get past you.
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Turyleon Caddarn
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Turyleon Caddarn on 26/08/2004 17:35:01
Originally by: Odet
Originally by: Turyleon Caddarn
Edited by: Turyleon Caddarn on 26/08/2004 16:49:03
Originally by: Odet
Work as a team? mmmm F* that I like to work solo a lot and or in small groups. So therefore setting up a mobile isnt really an option.
if you arent prepared to work in a team, then i have no sympathy for you. stop whining.
tury. shhhhh.
Speak only if you know what you are talking about.
kthnxdie
I dont tell yu how to play the game dont tell me how i should. Now be a good noobcake and know your role, and try and see a point of view other then your own. I stated that in my initial post. you clearly werent thnking before posting or taking into account any other view besides your own.
ughhh.... dealing with a genius here..
ooo, a smacktalker.
the mood of your rant is the same as the people that said npc hunting solo is difficult because of the inties, and the drone nerf. the ccp stance on this is simple - play in groups, mixed fleets, this is what they have been tryin gto push people into for as long as i can remember.
just remember, although miners can make a crap load of money mining in 0.0, they still need protection from the bs rats, they have to work in a team (unless they ninja mine of course).
mobile warp disruptors, thats the way around insta jumps (although admitttidly, not instadock - but we arent talking about that), just in the same way secure containers are the way around ore theives. you have the tools, use them. you dont like them? or are too cheap to buy them? or are too impatient o wait for them to activate? then dont ****ing moan when people get past you.
"I know this game, it's called Cat and Mouse. There's only one way to win......... Don't be the mouse." |
Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lustralis on 26/08/2004 17:39:22
Whaaaaa, whaaaaa (etc.). No, I don't think instas between gates in 0.0 should be removed. This is one of the dumbest ideas I ever heard. Reason? Most people don't use instas to avoid pirates, they use them because travel times in anything other than a nifty frig with MWD is just unbearable. If you want instas removed, then you have to (1) increase basic velocity of all ships (by a factor of 2) OR (2) make the jump in distance more like 5km than 15km. I have to make over 70 jumps to get up into empire and back and quite frankly, if I didn't have instas I would probably loose the will to live (ie. play Eve).
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lustralis on 26/08/2004 17:39:22
Whaaaaa, whaaaaa (etc.). No, I don't think instas between gates in 0.0 should be removed. This is one of the dumbest ideas I ever heard. Reason? Most people don't use instas to avoid pirates, they use them because travel times in anything other than a nifty frig with MWD is just unbearable. If you want instas removed, then you have to (1) increase basic velocity of all ships (by a factor of 2) OR (2) make the jump in distance more like 5km than 15km. I have to make over 70 jumps to get up into empire and back and quite frankly, if I didn't have instas I would probably loose the will to live (ie. play Eve).
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:36:00 -
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Why remove insta-jump bm's from 0.0 space?
0.0 space is least affected by insta-bm's because you can place warp disruptor fields to prevent them.
If you'd said "Remove insta-bm's from Empire Space", I'm sure many more people would agree with you.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:36:00 -
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Why remove insta-jump bm's from 0.0 space?
0.0 space is least affected by insta-bm's because you can place warp disruptor fields to prevent them.
If you'd said "Remove insta-bm's from Empire Space", I'm sure many more people would agree with you.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Moneta
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Why remove insta-jump bm's from 0.0 space?
0.0 space is least affected by insta-bm's because you can place warp disruptor fields to prevent them.
If you'd said "Remove insta-bm's from Empire Space", I'm sure many more people would agree with you.
Read his first post. He's too lazy to use mobiles
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Why remove insta-jump bm's from 0.0 space?
0.0 space is least affected by insta-bm's because you can place warp disruptor fields to prevent them.
If you'd said "Remove insta-bm's from Empire Space", I'm sure many more people would agree with you.
Read his first post. He's too lazy to use mobiles
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Clyde Barrow
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:56:00 -
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Warp Disruptors take time to deploy.
They need to be protected.
They cost a lot of money.
They aint 100% reliable.
CCP please ban insta-jumps beacaue I'm a lazy pirate with no friends and I absolutely positivley do NOT want to risk losing my warp distruptor should those incomming ships be an anti-pirate corp.
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Clyde Barrow
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:56:00 -
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Warp Disruptors take time to deploy.
They need to be protected.
They cost a lot of money.
They aint 100% reliable.
CCP please ban insta-jumps beacaue I'm a lazy pirate with no friends and I absolutely positivley do NOT want to risk losing my warp distruptor should those incomming ships be an anti-pirate corp.
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Thyro
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Posted - 2004.08.26 18:02:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Odet
Well insta jumps are either loved or hated...
Most of the ppl in empire use them to get around quickly to get their tasks done faster. which I dont see a big problem with.
But where i do see the problem is allowing insta jumps in 0.0 space. It makes it parcatically impossible to stop any frigs,shuttles, or quick ships, without using mobile warp diruptors. Which you would also need a crew to protect the mobile...
0.0 is almost as safe as empire because everyone who enters it alreeady had bookkmarks to anywhere in 0.0.
removing BMS in 0.0 will make 0.0 what it used to be. And keeping them in empire will make it fair for all those ppl thaat want to travel quickly.
Before posting, think about it. And see more then a one sided opinion.
THEN I guess that U HAVE FOUND YOUR OWN SOLUTION... get an warp disruptor and work with ur pirate team and stop complaining.
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Thyro
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Posted - 2004.08.26 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Odet
Well insta jumps are either loved or hated...
Most of the ppl in empire use them to get around quickly to get their tasks done faster. which I dont see a big problem with.
But where i do see the problem is allowing insta jumps in 0.0 space. It makes it parcatically impossible to stop any frigs,shuttles, or quick ships, without using mobile warp diruptors. Which you would also need a crew to protect the mobile...
0.0 is almost as safe as empire because everyone who enters it alreeady had bookkmarks to anywhere in 0.0.
removing BMS in 0.0 will make 0.0 what it used to be. And keeping them in empire will make it fair for all those ppl thaat want to travel quickly.
Before posting, think about it. And see more then a one sided opinion.
THEN I guess that U HAVE FOUND YOUR OWN SOLUTION... get an warp disruptor and work with ur pirate team and stop complaining.
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Fidel Trelawny
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Posted - 2004.08.26 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Clyde Barrow
Warp Disruptors take time to deploy.
They need to be protected.
They cost a lot of money.
They aint 100% reliable.
CCP please ban insta-jumps beacaue I'm a lazy pirate with no friends and I absolutely positivley do NOT want to risk losing my warp distruptor should those incomming ships be an anti-pirate corp.
sometimes i wonder if those that want nothing but killing others, should go back to counterstrike.
its allways
Remove instas we cant catch ppl
Nerf cloak we cant see them.
remove this
my guns cant hit at 500km
allways i see threads made by gankers/grifers, that want everything served 10km in front of them.
all i have to say to this is: pirates/gankers/griefers adjust or leave its that simple, and if u cant afford a mobile warp disrupter in the first place, ur are better of mining veldspar.
i too hunt for ppl once in a while, and i enjoy the chase both when i try to stop ppl or they try to stop me, and ill tell u this it beat waiting at a gate. |
Fidel Trelawny
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Posted - 2004.08.26 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Clyde Barrow
Warp Disruptors take time to deploy.
They need to be protected.
They cost a lot of money.
They aint 100% reliable.
CCP please ban insta-jumps beacaue I'm a lazy pirate with no friends and I absolutely positivley do NOT want to risk losing my warp distruptor should those incomming ships be an anti-pirate corp.
sometimes i wonder if those that want nothing but killing others, should go back to counterstrike.
its allways
Remove instas we cant catch ppl
Nerf cloak we cant see them.
remove this
my guns cant hit at 500km
allways i see threads made by gankers/grifers, that want everything served 10km in front of them.
all i have to say to this is: pirates/gankers/griefers adjust or leave its that simple, and if u cant afford a mobile warp disrupter in the first place, ur are better of mining veldspar.
i too hunt for ppl once in a while, and i enjoy the chase both when i try to stop ppl or they try to stop me, and ill tell u this it beat waiting at a gate. |
Nesthenia
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Posted - 2004.08.26 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Odet
Well insta jumps are either loved or hated...
Most of the ppl in empire use them to get around quickly to get their tasks done faster. which I dont see a big problem with.
But where i do see the problem is allowing insta jumps in 0.0 space. It makes it parcatically impossible to stop any frigs,shuttles, or quick ships, without using mobile warp diruptors. Which you would also need a crew to protect the mobile...
0.0 is almost as safe as empire because everyone who enters it alreeady had bookkmarks to anywhere in 0.0.
removing BMS in 0.0 will make 0.0 what it used to be. And keeping them in empire will make it fair for all those ppl thaat want to travel quickly.
Before posting, think about it. And see more then a one sided opinion.
You are a total tard.
Don't come to the forums asking devs to make it easier for you to gank other players.
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Nesthenia
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Posted - 2004.08.26 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Odet
Well insta jumps are either loved or hated...
Most of the ppl in empire use them to get around quickly to get their tasks done faster. which I dont see a big problem with.
But where i do see the problem is allowing insta jumps in 0.0 space. It makes it parcatically impossible to stop any frigs,shuttles, or quick ships, without using mobile warp diruptors. Which you would also need a crew to protect the mobile...
0.0 is almost as safe as empire because everyone who enters it alreeady had bookkmarks to anywhere in 0.0.
removing BMS in 0.0 will make 0.0 what it used to be. And keeping them in empire will make it fair for all those ppl thaat want to travel quickly.
Before posting, think about it. And see more then a one sided opinion.
You are a total tard.
Don't come to the forums asking devs to make it easier for you to gank other players.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.26 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 26/08/2004 18:40:19
Eliminating instas in 0.0 space was proposed, and people went ballistic. The simple reason is that 99% of gates in 0.0 are not camped by anyone. And most of the trips in 0.0 for ANYTHING are 10 or more jumps long. Instas are needed in 0.0 worse than in empire, just to avoid being bored senseless while travelling.
If you want to ransom people solo, you are much better off belt hopping in popular mining or NPCing systems. This is more like classic piracy in any case, searching for good targets and striking when the moment is right.
BW
Edit: My spelling and diction :/
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.26 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 26/08/2004 18:40:19
Eliminating instas in 0.0 space was proposed, and people went ballistic. The simple reason is that 99% of gates in 0.0 are not camped by anyone. And most of the trips in 0.0 for ANYTHING are 10 or more jumps long. Instas are needed in 0.0 worse than in empire, just to avoid being bored senseless while travelling.
If you want to ransom people solo, you are much better off belt hopping in popular mining or NPCing systems. This is more like classic piracy in any case, searching for good targets and striking when the moment is right.
BW
Edit: My spelling and diction :/
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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