Originally by: MADDOGzors

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You never even attempted to fight us straight up. The one time you fought you blobbed The United with 9 falcons in your gang. You've never engaged TFS unless you had way more numbers and you would stay docked when our gang was active. So if boring The United with no fights so they would be "repelled" was your tactic then gj, but TFS is still here. You know better to think you can do a damn thing to our corp. But hey keep telling your members they aren't allowed to 1v1 us, or fight us period without a blob or 3 falcons, really shows your pvp skill and how good you are. You can throw all your propaganda crap on this forum but you and I both know what's really going on.

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Originally by: Cyrdax

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Originally by: Galvatine

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Oh noes, someone protect us from the nasty falcons!

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in his defense, there are a LOT of falcons on that km

but it's also commonplace for people to fly fleet command ships with lots of links, no weapons, and a cyno just in case.

although that guy has weapons ._.

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Originally by: Cyrdax

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Originally by: Galvatine

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Oh noes, someone protect us from the nasty falcons!

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in his defense, there are a LOT of falcons on that km

but it's also commonplace for people to fly fleet command ships with lots of links, no weapons, and a cyno just in case.

although that guy has weapons ._.

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Edited by: Kristina Trepkas on 14/04/2009 11:39:54

Originally by: MirrorGod

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Edited by: MirrorGod on 13/04/2009 05:46:17
About a week ago, as Heretic Nation Army (is glorious) Soldiers were going about thier business in their home system, Amamake. Suddenly, a rouge group of high-sec combatants emerged, screaming loudly in local communications channels that they would take over, along with their friends, the united. Among the waves of smack, they announced they would not allow us to so much as undock. By the beginning fo the week, sure enough, a combination of final stand and united battleships and capitals camped impotently at our HQ station, Amamake II - Heretic Distribution Warehouse. Over the course of one week, they would proceed to spend 90% of thier time at this station. 5% would be spent camping the glorious gates of mother Amamake, and the other 5% spent out of Amamake. During this week, Heretic Nation continued to rack up the high-score. Our pirating inflicted double the damages that united did, in all, we inflicted an approximated 13 billion in that week, hardly impeded by the united.

There were not many battles, I am displeased to report. They would very infrequently leave the station, and we dislike fighting on stations. The one fight we did have was a slaughter. Apparently our russian enemies in amamake hated united so much that they would ask us to cooperate with them, and when we did, our combined forces locked down and shut down their entire gang, killing seven battleships and a command ship.

As of current, united have completely withdrawn to their hole, rancer. final stand have joined the minmatar militia. Amamake's sovereignty remains Heretic Nation.

Tl;DR
TFS hate Heretics
TFS calls in united to lol-BS/Cap-blob Heretics
Heretics go about their normal business
TFS/united leave after losing a bunch of battleships

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Funny how HN act all tough, yet feel they have to password protect comment posting on their clearly padded KB. What's the matter girls, are you scared nasty people will come and "diss" you on your lickle KB?

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Edited by: Kristina Trepkas on 14/04/2009 12:08:31

Originally by: Galvatine

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Edited by: Kristina Trepkas on 14/04/2009 11:39:54

Originally by: MirrorGod

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Edited by: MirrorGod on 13/04/2009 05:46:17
About a week ago, as Heretic Nation Army (is glorious) Soldiers were going about thier business in their home system, Amamake. Suddenly, a rouge group of high-sec combatants emerged, screaming loudly in local communications channels that they would take over, along with their friends, the united. Among the waves of smack, they announced they would not allow us to so much as undock. By the beginning fo the week, sure enough, a combination of final stand and united battleships and capitals camped impotently at our HQ station, Amamake II - Heretic Distribution Warehouse. Over the course of one week, they would proceed to spend 90% of thier time at this station. 5% would be spent camping the glorious gates of mother Amamake, and the other 5% spent out of Amamake. During this week, Heretic Nation continued to rack up the high-score. Our pirating inflicted double the damages that united did, in all, we inflicted an approximated 13 billion in that week, hardly impeded by the united.

There were not many battles, I am displeased to report. They would very infrequently leave the station, and we dislike fighting on stations. The one fight we did have was a slaughter. Apparently our russian enemies in amamake hated united so much that they would ask us to cooperate with them, and when we did, our combined forces locked down and shut down their entire gang, killing seven battleships and a command ship.

As of current, united have completely withdrawn to their hole, rancer. final stand have joined the minmatar militia. Amamake's sovereignty remains Heretic Nation.

Tl;DR
TFS hate Heretics
TFS calls in united to lol-BS/Cap-blob Heretics
Heretics go about their normal business
TFS/united leave after losing a bunch of battleships

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Funny how HN act all tough, yet feel they have to password protect comment posting on their clearly padded KB. What's the matter girls, are you scared nasty people will come and "diss" you on your lickle KB?

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Clearly padded??....provide some examples to back up your groundless comment

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Funny how you only refute the padding comment. Thanks for proving that you're too scared too allow people to freely post comments on your KB coward.

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Originally by: Hoggs

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Any corporation that's scared of having a kill disputed passwords their killboard comments, it's just too open to us being caught out padding our stats.

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Fixed.

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Originally by: MADDOGzors

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So mirrorgod won't let you guys 1v1 us. He's kicked people out of corp for losing ships to us. You stay docked any time you think you might lose a ship to us. You try to claim amamake but yet when a few of us enter local you warp to station. The only time you engage is either on station and undock carriers, or when you have a ******ed number of falcons.

You guys are awesome

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Originally by: Major Buttache

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So just to verify, when the fearless souls of The United are camping the gates in Rancer, they will only engage with the same number of ships that jump through, or is only unfair when the tables are turned and they get blobbed?

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Originally by: Alowishus

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We've never used nine Falcons before. I don't think any fight in this game is fair, and what's acceptable tactics is often in the eye of the beholder. However, nine Falcons is just LOLWTFROFLCOPTER. There's no room for debate on that. But hey, sometimes the most ridiculous tactics end up as tomorrow's FOTM. Everyone should be on the lookout for fleets with nine Falcons from now on.

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Again, still would like someone to point out where I've whined or cried. You used nine Falcons and made a forum post about it claiming a huge victory. That's funny. You guys made the thread. Get over it.

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Originally by: Galvatine

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Dude whats actually funny is you guys turning up ni a huge cap fleet claiming you were going to kick us out, and a week later leaving with no significant kills at all.

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I wasn't there. But we can come back. How many Falcons will you have this time?

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Edited by: Kristina Trepkas on 14/04/2009 19:21:43

Originally by: Bai ZongTong

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Funny how you only refute the padding comment. Thanks for proving that you're too scared too allow people to freely post comments on your KB coward.

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because we all need sharp eyed people like you catching us out posting fake kill mails?


cool. wanna link your all-access KB? I'm a script kiddie thats downloaded a bot just for you

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Fixed.

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Originally by: pkp

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speak to larkonis if you wish to get a full story on all of this. You can ask him yourself if the united is acting a bit strange as of late.

For a corp that has camped for nearly 2 years straight to be wondering out of their normal home to do things they normally wouldn't do. You can hardly call what we referred to as a vacation a heretic victory. Considering they lost horrible stayed in station etc... Speaking from experience you are nothing more than a forgotten corp in amamake's history. It has housed some of the finest pirates/pvpers in eve's history and as of late the only thing living there now is faction war and wannabe pirates.

True you managed to blob united once and all of us who had lived in amamake in the past warned of such deeds since in the past alot better groups lived there. While back then it wasn't 1 ewar group you had to worry about it was 9 groups all converging on the one location to fight at the exact same time. Simple fact this was just a means to get the united used to the mobility again.

The corp is changing and you were nothing more than a stepping stone to get this done.

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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr

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Now lets get real here shall we Mirrorkid?

Your KB stats would only be impressive if they werent bolstered by corps like Genos Occidere who spent a short amount of time in Heretic Nation.

Minmatar Militia where you never flew alone in your own gangs....Always the meatshield!

The Pirate Coalition kills where you gathered km's off the backs of TFS and Red BOx.

Now you have new corps in Heretic Nation and you bolster your kills off their backs.

As an individual corp and individual players your corp is absolute crap and you know it, everyone knows it that has had anything to do with you.

You had to get Drunk Gang to come in and help you to deal with The United on one occasion and you felt the need to boast about this all over C&P...What does that say about you? Your constant desire for attention and ego boosting is becoming laughable. You get ****d by TFS everytime we go anywhere near you and you still felt the need to use the ganking of The United as an example of how good you are.

You ganked them once..... Grow up little man.

The reason Amamake was empty over Easter is simply because people have families and lives to take care of. Most of the people in TFS are married and work hard for a living. They dont live in their Grandparents basement leeching off everyone else.

You need to learn how to pvp before you make posts like this, first and foremost and then perhaps you need to learn to grow up a little.

Until you can actually achieve something on your own without having to beg other people to help you, you are a hypocrite and a fool.

TFS outclasses you on every level and you should be afraid of us as you always have been. You will never be able to go at it with us toe to toe... You dont have the nut sack....

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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr

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Heretic Nation is and always has been a joke MG, you can post until you are blue in the face, the facts speak for themselves. You only have to go and look up battleclinic where people actually post your loses for you, then read your killboard. Fun Facts?

1. You have always doctored killmails, added people, changed a few things in killmails and done what you thought necessary to make yourself and your corp look better.

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Originally by: Recon Three

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ITT: Accusations w/ lack of proof.

Also known as "BAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW".

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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr

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Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 16/04/2009 21:07:43

Originally by: Galvatine

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Edited by: Galvatine on 16/04/2009 20:57:50

Originally by: Ferocious FeAr

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Heretic Nation is and always has been a joke MG, you can post until you are blue in the face, the facts speak for themselves. You only have to go and look up battleclinic where people actually post your loses for you, then read your killboard. Fun Facts?

1. You have always doctored killmails, added people, changed a few things in killmails and done what you thought necessary to make yourself and your corp look better.

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Proof please, you know, like a pic of a doctored mail that your guys are so famous for? Or maybe some alt corp that we can sync our losses to??

I've posted every single loss ive made since joining HN, and quite frankly, your full of ****. PROVE it or go away and cry about some more falcons

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Why dont you ask MG to deny it. He used to add people onto the killmails that missed out during faction war and even before that. He made killmails of killing an Obelisk that the pilot ejected from just to put it on the killboard. The list is endless. Just because you put all your kill/loss mails on that board doesnt mean everyone else does. If you want proof go look up your alliance on battleclinic and you can easily find the missing loss mails, including the Navy thron from last week.

Stinkfingers loss mail and bloods from the new corp that we killed the other night werent posted either.

MG even kicked out Gemini Security so that he didnt have to post the Nighthawk lossmail.

You are in a fail alliance. Accept it and move on. I'm not going to do your intel for you, if you are a grown man and not a child like the rest of your alliance, do it yourself.

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Originally by: Galvatine

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Troll

Link the false kill or disappear

Oh thats right, you cant, so quit trolling

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As you know coward, forum rules prevent us linking killmails. I'll gladly dispute mails but for some "strange reason", you don't allow public posting of comments on your killboard. Nothing to hide? Then nothing to worry about eh?

Simple fact - you've got something to hide. Now please crawl back to your weak moral high ground, don't want to keep you from your KB padding.

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Originally by: Galvatine

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Originally by: Kristina Trepkas

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Originally by: Galvatine

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Troll

Link the false kill or disappear

Oh thats right, you cant, so quit trolling

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As you know coward, forum rules prevent us linking killmails. I'll gladly dispute mails but for some "strange reason", you don't allow public posting of comments on your killboard. Nothing to hide? Then nothing to worry about eh?

Simple fact - you've got something to hide. Now please crawl back to your weak moral high ground, don't want to keep you from your KB padding.

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Fine, give me a date/time/location to search for. Until then, stfu troll

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ROFL - translation - "I'll deal with this behind closed doors so we don't caught out KB padding on a public forum"

You've been outed, trolled and shown up for the cowards you are. Until you allow public posting comments on your KB, you'll always look like you have something to hide. And as for your repeated STFU all I can say is BOAR MOAR PLOX. Must be driving you nuts knowing you can't ever silence people like me, Do you bash the keyboard in frustration? Do you find it hard to see the screen through the haze of your tears?

If you had any sense you wouldln't even bother responding to me; but you can't help it; you have a pathological need; that's what makes you such a good LOL cow.

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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr

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Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 19/04/2009 10:25:16

Originally by: Ophey Won

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LOL The great final stand has 49 kill this week. Thats not one player. That is the entire corp. Sniff sniff.... smell like carebears too me.

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Actually the Great Final Stand has an average isk/kill ratio of aprox 50 mil per kill this week...

Heretics has 1.4 mil isk per kill ratio...

895 Ships killed (13222.18M ISK) <-Heretics
68 Ships killed (3.47B ISK) <-The Final Stand

We call that QUALITY VS QUANTITY.....

If you think ganking frigates and haulers filling up your kill board makes your alliance better than TFS then you will never understand how we play as a corp. We like good fights, we don't care about filling up our kill board with ganks just to make ourselves feel better about lazy pvp'rs spouting their e-peen in threads on a forum.

Get better or nap more people? I hear Heretics decided to nap it up with the Dead Terrorist/BYDI/Neo Spartan/Invicta nap***fest.... (Didn't you swear to hate DL/Surge for the rest of your eve life MG? Desperate times call for desperate measures huh?)

LOL?

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Originally by: Tron X16

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This is WAR at its finest.

Propaganda... probably Spies involved and who knows what.

Kudos to both sides making there case. War is not fair.

I would like to hear more about the fight but leave the personal stuff out.

Blob no Blob we understand lets hear some details on some engagements win or lose.

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Originally by: Lucifers Advocate

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Edited by: Lucifers Advocate on 20/04/2009 13:50:33
Hey MirrorGod!

I remember you from Minmatar FW days when FW first came out. I had been a prominent FC for my Minmatar brothers & sisters then. I remember camping you on gates and forcing you to engage and wiping the floor with your @$$. Looking at the killmail, it really doesn't surprise me at all that you had 9 Falcons in your gang. Not 1 or 2, or even three. NINE! Nine falcons had to be used to kill Katie Door's command ship. Seriously man, it was over 27% of your entire gang.

I didn't respect you then, and from the preceding referenced killmail, I still cannot respect you.

When you actually devise tactics and use more strategy than I shat out on a regular basis, give me a call and we can brawl. Until then, please keep your epeen off public forums and save it for the pour souls who have to traverse Amamake and don't have you blocked already.


Signed,

LA

P.S. You know who I am. (Check your loss mails)

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Originally by: crockett EXE

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Edited by: crockett EXE on 20/04/2009 22:19:28

Originally by: MirrorGod

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Edited by: MirrorGod on 20/04/2009 22:06:09

Originally by: crockett EXE

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Lets be honest here both these corp have to milk kills from high sec boarder gate camps. I dunno what the difference is in either of them because they both do the same thing.

On one hand United changes KM's and = fail on the other hand Heretic jumps into high sec to avoid giving KM's = fail. I know because I looted Heretic's condorded wrecks in Osoggur before.

Oh and on the Blue status for FW guys from Heretic's, don't believe it, they don't live up to that, so don't trust them if they claim they will blue you.

I gave it a try because other FW guys said they did, but turned out to not be true.

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^He requested blues and jumped into our gatecamp 30 seconds later. I was FC'ing, not logged on my alliance exec alt. Did not ask for a confirmation of blues. Lost rupture. Raged in local. Poasted on forums about it.

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No, I waited 30 mins at the gate after we talked. I then talked to you again, in which you claimed you didn't have time to do it and said it was a mistake. Takes you all of what 30 secs to set status on a corp?

I trusted you only because other FW guys said you did it, but even after we talked your guys gate camped one of my guys late last night.

As far as rage in local, I just let everyone know the real reason you camp the high sec gate. Simply as I said, so you can avoid giving kill mails, but I think everyone knows that already.

But, what ever makes you l33t on the KB's, if that's what it takes..

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Originally by: crockett EXE

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I talked to him on the second occasion we both agreed and confirmed that setting would be blue. I didn't actually expect to be blue after the first time, because I asked him to show good faith and give me my loot back which he wouldn't. It wasn't so much about the loot, but to see if was being legit.

I set you guys blue but still warned my corpmates to be assume you would attack. I was proven right when you guys podded my corpmate several hours later after Mirrorgod agreed to a blue status for the second time.

Sorry but I just don't believe you..

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Originally by: crockett EXE

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A cearbear jumping to hi sec before he dies to a gate camp is just doing what anyone would do if they weren't fitted to fight back. No dignity lost in running from a fight you can't win, as only fools give their ship up to a blob if they can help it.

What these guys do is different, they camp the high sec boarder gate and if they realize they will die, they jump into hi sec to get concorded rather than giving the killmail to the guy that actually out fought them. Meaning they don't show their "actual" loses because they use a game mechanic to avoid giving the kill mail by camping a high sec gate.

That is what we call lame in these parts. I mean it's not like these guys are out doing big fleet battles and winning "real" fights for their kills. They sit on a high sec gate 23/7 and blob solo ships that jump through with 10+ ships blobs.

Hell any 6 month old noob gang could do that in a bunch of BC's and cruisers.

Conclusion.. Read before you post.

btw.. I'm quite sure most of their guys could spank me in a 1 v1 as I'm only a noob, but I don't need 30 mil SP's to know what lame mails are.

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